Thanks and congrats on this awesome project! Quick question please, is the Unity project available somewhere? I'd like to test this approach for a spatial video, whose side-by-side frames were extracted using ffmpeg, to then be viewed from Unity as an immersive video. Thanks in advance.
Fantastic work. Do you have Github with your camera hacking stuff? I'm into photography, Arduino, cad design, 3D printing, etc. Have never done instant stuff, but with that last secret segment you got me interested.
I've been having some trouble printing this, also on a P1s. There's a lot of friction in the arm and base assembly that prevents it from sliding smoothly, and even after sanding it down it still feels like something's stuck. It also doesn't seem to be hitting the instax cartridge enough to catch on anything. Would you be willing to share a screenshot of your print settings? I tried what you've got listed on the thingiverse page (0.08 layer height and supports as the big ones) and I'm not sure what I've got going wrong at this point.
Sorry you're having trouble! It's pretty much the default 0.08 Extra Fine profile with Default Snug supports. I changed the support x distances to make it easier to remove, but that's pretty much it, and that wouldn't affect the print. Someone else also told me that they printed it and it didn't move smoothly. I just printed/measured this calibration print (www.printables.com/model/164261) to make sure my printer isn't off, and it looks pretty dimensionally accurate, so I'm not sure what the issue could be.
@@JoshGladstone got it! I was running on the default high quality but I’ll give it a shot on extra fine to see if that makes a difference. thanks for responding!
They're stupid at Kodak for not just making the damn film themselves. Shouldn't need a 3D printer just to use a camera. (Polaroid isn't the same polaroid as back then anyways so that lawsuit is in the garbage, Kodak can just do it and everyone would love it.)
I currently have an "incompatable" and very dirty model I got for FREE. [Party Time; looks like E4]. 》That is how I found you; online articles. Now that I know you have suceeded I may eventually acquire better model editions for this. ALSO: 》YES PLEASE!!!!《 dive deeper into the *electronics mod* that would be amazing!!!! Not enough afforable MANUAL instant cameras!!!!
A question that came to my mind for which I could not find an answer is why, throughout their history, photography companies have not produced cameras that shoot photographic or instant cinematic films of the 35mm, 16mm, or 8mm category, since you shoot the film and the film comes out immediately ready, as we saw on video, and we can then watch it as slides, or Animated images using a projector, without the need for development via a developer and installation. Does anyone have an answer?!
This is FASCINATING. And I'm discovering this just a DAY too late! 🤣😭 I was coming back from a vacation, and stopped in at a farmers market sort of thing and someone was selling a brand new, in box, Kodak EK4. Absolutely pristine. I googled what kind of film it took, and discovered it's long discontinued. The guy offered it to me for 10 bucks. I was SO tempted, but thought "As cool as this is, what am I ACTUALLY going to do with it? I don't need another decorative piece of vintage tech, my apartment is filled to the BRIM already.." and I left it behind. I am now REALLY wishing I grabbed it! EXCELLENT work man, what a cool project! 🧡
Thank you Josh!! I was just a few weeks from having your first model printed and the you release this just in time for me get the updated model. Appreciate your work 👍🏻
For the main spring in the adapter, I used a .6 x 7 x 20mm 10 lap spring that was then stretched to be about 35 or 40mm. For the spring back plate adapter, I used a .6 x 7 x 10mm 6 lap spring. There's a link in the description to the exact set of springs I used.
Good question! I'm not sure. I know the Kodak Instant and Fotorama formats are extremely similar, but I'm not sure if they are 100% compatible, and also I'm not sure how robust the Fotorama internal mechanisms are. So it might be possible to use this or alter it to work with Fotorama cameras, but unfortunately I don't own any so I can't say for sure. And I wouldn't really recommend trying unless you're willing to break a camera or two.
I wonder what would happen if you took a brayer roller to the film after you exposed it? Would it push the chemicals into the corners and develop those areas? If I do this mod, I will have to give it a try!
Its working. I'm on my second pack currently. I did switch the springs to get the backplate to apply pressure. I used the .6x7x10 but didn't cut them in half. It's working better in the pleaser 2 I have. I also notice my top corners are larger than yours. I'm not sure if I can post a picture in these comments
Awesome video! By chance will you sell any of your prototypes? I dont know the first thing about 3d printing and I would love one if these since I live right next to the Kodak factory and collect Kodak Cameras.
Thanks! I'm not planning on selling any just because I wouldn't really want to take money for something that I can't really guarantee will work 100% consistently and won't damage people's cameras and stuff. There's a bit of DIY jankiness involved. But that said, since you're a Kodaky person, and it would be kinda cool to know someone in Rochester was using it, feel free to DM me on Instagram and maybe we can figure something out.
I'm not really planning on selling them mostly because I wouldn't really want to take money for something that I can't really guarantee will work 100% consistently and won't damage people's cameras and stuff. There's a bit of DIY jankiness involved. That said, there are 3d printing services out there. I can't speak to how much they might cost or even if they would necessarily work with this project, but that could be an option.
There are 3d printing services out there. I can't speak to how much they might cost or even if they would necessarily work with this project, but that could be an option.
@@JoshGladstone I'll attempt to check that out, but I would be willing to pay up to about $150 for an official one. This would be a dream of mine. I love Instax Square and I want to pick up a Kodak Pleaser II. I'm assuming Wide was too wide?
I'm very happy you actually have instructions on this now. It's really funny cause I bought a kodak instant a month or two ago because I saw your project on yeggi. The Arduino came out of no where. I please recommend you switch the code over to micro Python or something so that it can run on a pi pico. I learned on Arduino too, but the price of atmega chips compared to the rp2040 gets bigger and bigger so it would be nice to keep it cheap.
@@AndyTanguay Definitely it could. I've got some Arduino pro micros lying around so I might just use those, although maybe pi picos are a better choice... 🤔
dude people like you are so damn cool. I love this type of stuff. ive converted a few 600s to I type and im hooked on modding and using these dinosaurs. what are some entry level 3d printers you recommend?
Bambu Lab has really come along in the past few years and really gained a lot of trust for their reliability and quality at reasonable prices. I don't know many people who are unhappy with theirs. So I'd look at the A1 and A1 mini. Also not sponsored or anything, I'm just happy with mine it works great.
@@JoshGladstone That's nothing a little diluted coke on a brush can't fix! Plus if you only put the tape on one roller it should still pull it through I would think.
I used to use the Kodak instant camera system. I don't care in the slightest about the cameras. They were okay, but not really hugely better than Polaroid. I personally prefered the SX70. BUT the big difference is the photographs. They were night and day better than Polaroid. They were also better than Instax. Instax might use some Kodak technology, but it still makes a shiny image that looks a lot like Polaroid. Kodak instants were much less shiny, and had the look of a normal photograph enlarges on photographic paper. Polaroid and Instax have a shiny plastic look about the image that I find unpleasant. Kodak had much better colors than Polaroid and Instax as well, and was not as contrasty. They were simply much better photographs. I never forgave Polaroid for what they did in exterminating a superior instant technology. May every decision maker and lawyer at Polaroid enjoy their special place in heck. Until the day someone decides to make real Kodak instant film again, I fail to see the point in using the cameras to shoot sub-standard films in them. I find that disturbing, and a constant reminder of what we lost when Polaroid won in court over a technicality.
Oo! I don't know anyone who was actually a user so your perspective is very interesting! The trimprint feature seems like it was really cool too and isn't anything I've ever seen from Polaroid or Fuji either
@@JoshGladstone Even back then, there were few of us shooting Kodak instant compared to Polaroid, but we made up for our smaller numbers with our love of the Kodak instant prints. I remember when Polaroid was demanding we hand-in our Kodak cameras. There was a store credit/partial refund in place or something like that. I returned mine because the film was no longer available, but plenty of people refused to. Stores were ordered to destroy existing stocks of the film so it very quickly disappeared. Polaroid really were A h*les about how they did things. A good company would have used the opportunity to improve their product so it was as good as the Kodak one, but no, they just kept on making the same second rate consumer film as they always had. I should note that pro-Polaroid was much better. I loved their 4x5 and 8x10 color film, and enjoyed using PolaChrome 35mm slide film, but I refused to use SX-70 film after they screwed my Kodak instant. I was quite pleased when Polaroid eventually went bankrupt, despite some of the good things the company did in its earlier years. The company was never the same after Dr Land left the company in 1982 over the failed PolaVision products, and we have to believe that he might have been more sensible about Kodak after Polaroid won, compared to the corporate bean counters that ran the corporation into the ground after Land left. It was all very unjust. The two patents that Kodak infringed were found to be invalid, and the one patent Polaroid sued over that was valid, Kodak was found to have not infringed. However, in the years when Kodak was trying to develop their process, the engineers couldn't figure out a way to avoid that patent, so an executive wrote a memo saying basically "go ahead and infringe and let them sue us." The engineers, however, eventually did work out how to avoid infringing that patent, and the product reached the market with no actionable patent infringements. However that memo was discovered by Polaroid, and they used it to suggest that Kodak intended to infringe, and that technicality won them the case. They should never have won it, and it was a big surprise for everyone. How could a memo trump the fact that the patent was not infringed in the cameras that were sold? It was unforgivable when they immediately started destroying Kodak cameras and film. The 1 billion dollars that Kodak was ordered to pay wasn't enough for them. They had to try to take our cameras off us. They wiped out decades of goodwill toward the company in that brutal act. There was a lot of anger at the time.
Yeah it's a really fun camera. I uploaded my ek4 picker arm design to Thingiverse, so maybe someone can come up with a more reliable design. I also haven't given up on it quite yet! 🤞
I just saw this in my feed. If I got one of those kodak cameras I would need to find a place to buy the adaptors. I don't know anyone with a 3 d printer so.. Harold and Maude. Great movie.
3d printers have been getting cheaper and better lately, but it's also a whole thing to get into so it's definitely not for everyone. Many of cities also have makerspaces or libraries that have 3d printing facilities for public use. But again, not necessarily everybody's cup of tea.
I’m in the process of moving into a new house right now, so I can’t do anything, but I almost want to contact OP and work out a licensing thing, just to crank a few hundred of these out and sell them. I’ve been in the position of not having a 3D printer and seeing things I REALLY wanted. Living in the middle of nowhere, nearest maker space to me being like 16 hours away. Hate that shit, work out something with SOMEONE, they print and sell, you get a 20% passive kickback for being the designer, they deal with printing and shipping and all that shit, and get 80%. That’s what I’d do, anyway. Or, if nobody’s doing this in a few months when I’m all settled in, I might just send you a DM.
No, unfortunately the ek4 has a different picker arm mechanism, so it needs a slightly different adapter, and I haven't been able to design one that works reliably enough. Yet.
@@JoshGladstone can you share your ek-4 design even though it may be a Work in progress? Maybe I can help you improving the design, I have a 3d printer an 3d design skills
Very cool. My collection is mostly centered around Kodak's roll film cameras because I want to use the cameras in my collection. But I did pick up a Trimprint 920 recently to have at least one example of a Kodak instant camera. Now I'll have to look into this era of cameras more seriously.
I have been waiting yeeeears for this update! Funny thing, this week I found my self thinking "what happend to the instax-old kodak film guy?" and a while ago you uploaded this video! 😂 Thank you!!
