Being a Sony fanboy I ended up exchanging my old A90J for G4 77". I just couldn't believe my eyes. My brain was telling me to go for Sony as usual but my heart said to go for G4. Delivery wait time is 1 full month but hopefully it's all worth it. I think LG this time did give serious competition to Sony
I use the s95d in day time and when its dark I walk to my other house that has no windows and use watch on the g4 and in morning when sun comes i go back to my other house and watch on the s95g again. Just buy another house or build house next to your existing one and get both tvs - problem solved
How is this even a comparison considering these two models are at two different price points. S90D vs C4 // S95D VS G4 would be a more proper comparison.
lg g4 is the better tv. samsung is waiting to destroy your picture quality and motion as soon as you purchase, with their next "new firmware update". with samsung you are one firmware update from a walmart tv
In the video, we have the G4 using a hack with DTM to be able to show an impressive image, but unrealistic from the point of view of the game developers, while the S90D with the Contrast at 50 in this game shows that no matter the quality of the panel, the image can be very bad, with the colors overexposed, removing many details, the default Contrast value on the S90D should be around 45 for any game mode, and if HDR Tone Mapping is active, the Contrast should be around 37 so as not to kill a lot of details, this with HGiG active which is mandatory to better highlight the bright areas. A few more points, in SDR content which should be the case here, the G4 can get up to 60% brighter than the S90D. In HDR, that advantage drops considerably to below 25%, in some cases delivering similar or even darker brightness without DTM on the G4.
@RenatoKazuo8w. Hey thank you for the comment and checking out the video. It's the same thing as not wanting or caring for accuracy when watching a movie. This is not an accuracy comparison. As far as colors taking away from details goes, I think it depends on the color itself. I notice details not being as good in the colored with dtm on but in more natural tones it lg dies a rather good job preserving details. I'm not much of a fan of accuracy or creators intent. If that was what I wanted I wouldn't spend the money on tvs at this price point. These tvs arcade to adjust and tune them to really pop and shine if you so choose to. And in gaming that's where I like them set. It's a personal preference that's all. And not a single soul should tell another whether there settings are correct or incorrect. It's totally fine how you prefer your tvs settings and it's perfectly fine how I like my own. Not the biggest fan of accuracy of colors. As long as I can get that wow factor I'm happy
@@consumerreview2k Hi, you are absolutely right, it is a matter of preference, thank you for making me realize that and sorry for trying to impose my preferences.
The new MLA tech from LG will never outdo color saturation from QD OLED.......IF LG used QD OLED with their MLA tech.....GAME OVER to all the other TV manufacturers.....LG has already surpassed Sony this year for motion processing with their TVs.......now LG needs to step up their color saturation with QD OLEDS.
I want a 83" QD Oled with superior clarity and processing, that's the only reason I'am being hesitant on getting the G4. Will wait what happens next year, either A95M or maybe LG manages to get their hands on Blue Pholed.
S90D is too dim, S95E next year might be good again if they get rid of the matte coating. However if they decide to keep it well then R.I.P to Samsung fanboys.💀
In SDR content, as is likely the case in this video, the LG G4 can be up to 60% brighter than the S90D; in HDR, the difference narrows dramatically, as you can see in the God of War videos. But this will only matter if you use your TV's brightness at maximum, DTM is LG's impressive hack here.
Watching this again i think i have picked up on something that is being confused. Dynamic tone mapping will make bright areas darker and dark area brighter. If you want to make the brighter colors on the G4 brighter, you need to use Brightness > Professional Mode > 4000 Nit container slider and set to 70-100. Test the same thing and you will see what I mean.
Watching this again i think i have picked up on something that is being confused. Dynamic tone mapping will make bright areas darker and dark area brighter. If you want to make the brighter colors on the G4 brighter, you need to use Brightness > Professional Mode > 4000 Nit container slider and set to 70-100. Test the same thing and you will see what I mean.
Watching this again i think i have picked up on something that is being confused. Dynamic tone mapping will make bright areas darker and dark area brighter. If you want to make the brighter colors on the G4 brighter, you need to use Brightness > Professional Mode > 4000 Nit container slider and set to 70-100. Test the same thing and you will see what I mean.
I think he is using Dynamic Tone Mapping on the G4, in the first comparison video with GOW you can see the huge difference in this mode, with DTM turned off, the S90D is almost at the same level.
@@kamarrawlings6285 better gradient with no visible color banding, unlike WOLED which is basically visible in every color. QD OLED panel is much cleaner. And that rec 2020 coverage is what makes hdr the best experience on QD OLED. it does 90%+ rec2020 against the 75% on the G4. QD OLED is the superior technology. And LG should jump aboard on it.
Sony did an update which has destroyed my picture on my 77” A95L seriously they did a remote access and factory erased my tv and picture is now trash. I am fortunate enough to have the geek squad warranty, however it’s under Sony MFG also so have to deal with Sony first. Update trashed my baby
@@504cool Don’t do it, I’d say. My beautiful tv is now screwed. I’m lucky I bought the geek squad warranty, 1,000 bucks. Plus it’s under mfg warranty still. Will see what happens. Not cool
I'd suggest adding the A95L back into these comparisons because it gives a broader scope of the available TV options. And I agree that the S95D would've been a more interesting contender than the S90D because of the brighter colors which would be better competition for the G4. If you're done buying TVs this year, I'd suggest trying the S95E next year.
Might as well wait till CES2025 and see what Sony announce ... the new pentonic Mediatek chips with 4x 2.1 hdmi should be introduced on the new Sony QD-oled models.
@dante19890 Hey there thank you for the comment and checking out the video. No it's not the focus of the camera. I actually wanted to concentrate the focus on the camera more so It looks more clear because the G4 kind of takes over the overall image of the 2 tvs because it's brighter. But you can clearly see at times when the S90D looks more clear then the g4 in certain situations and color. Like the intro to the game for example the blue wording of CONCRETE GENIE. It does look better and more clear there
@dante19890 yes it mostly is just to get overall brightness up. I can tune white and black levels solely after that to my liking after that. Really depends on what I prefer based off the game I'm playing.
@@consumerreview2k the problem with DTM on LG is it manipulates the EOTF curve (hdr version of gamma) so dark scenes and mid tones gets brighter than they should be. Its clearly visable in this video. G4 is a brighter tv, but the only thing that should be brighter in a dark scenes are the highlights., not the overall scene as a whole.
@dante19890 that's the same complaint dtm has always had. But for gaming it's almost necessary to have on if you want overall brightness. You can get a little more brightness out of it outside of game mode when gaming but it doesn't provide that pop that you want when gaming. Also remember the reason why game optimizer gives you more then one way to utilize black levels along with being able to control your white levels makes it customizable all while having dtm on. So it's very flexible. Ithe g4 can get very bright while still maintaining clarity. All while being really good at maintaining details. There are times when it's obviously an issue. Like walking out of a dark tunnel with light at the end and looking completely blown out. Or looking washed out in backgrounds due to dtm on. But it's gotten at least better. Dtm is the vivid mode of tone mapping. It may not be accurate or highlights can be blown out but it's still very punchy and can give you that wow factor too.
it does is uselless in pc gaming , on top of that coonect box is piece of ggarbagge and yoou wwill ssufffer of bblack outts . Forrget 144hz and fulll 444 chroma at 4k
The only way the G4 is that much brighter is with DTM On, which is wildly inaccurate and destroys dark area immersion by lifting blacks a huge amount. I put a G4, S95D, and S90D side by side and the differences looked nothing like this. I don't know how you have these set up, but it ISN'T correct... and that's no surprise considering one of your other comparison videos had the G4 running with reduce blue light enabled and you didn't think twice about it. You keep yapping about detail? There should be no detail difference between these TVs when 4K gaming - the game already renders every pixel, what more does the TV need to do? Most processing is disabled in game mode anyway to get the lowest input lag. All you're seeing is DTM drastically altering how bright the scene is supposed to look. The only correct things said here are the S90D has better color, and the G4 is capable of higher (white) brightness. Want a similar stupid bright image on the Samsung? Enable Active Tone Mapping and Contrast Enhancer Low or High.
Dynamic tone mapping on, will make the large image area brighter. Not just highlights. It's the wrong solution here. It makes bright areas darker and dark areas brighter.
You do know different tv have different processing methods ?? otherwise every tv would be exactly the same i’ve never read so much waffle in my life . Please don’t come online saying every tv looks same in game mode is the stupidest thing i’ve heard this year
@@braden9536 There is a difference in details comparing Sony QD Oled and Samsung QD Oled when gaming also. The TV's do processing beyond what the source is sending. This includes how they map tones using different algorithms for their panels and tuning and other image enhancements that are not user configurable. It's true this demo is not 1:1 with native HDR settings. But even then they will look different. Samsung game mode runs over saturated and over brightened out of the box. LG has the wrong color temp. You need to correct some of that at last if you want something close to the creators intent. Though when it comes to gaming, I don't think creators intent matters as much as if you like how it looks.
@jiffjaff9018 Hey thank you for the comment and checking out the video. Means allot. I personally liked the s95c better. I thought it was still brighter and better build quality and better overall picture quality. Upscaling seems similar to me. The only issue I had was the constant dropouts of the s95c in gaming on my ps5. That truly was the worse experience I ever had on a tv for that reason. But when it worked, it was an amazing tv
@Bronco2Cj I've had the g4 on with multiple ceiling lights on and it still shined through just fine in my living space situation so I can say my experience was very good and no issues
I have both the S90C and S95D. I was absolutely shocked at how much better the S95D is in every way. I, too, scoffed at the S95D originally due to the Semi-matte finish. But i found that i was wrong. I see zero negative impact.
@@ehenningsen Even with ambient non-direct light it lifts the blacks on the S95D. This problem existed with semi matte screens for a long time and people said the same thing. The S95D does have amazing brightness and color though. If you enjoy your TV. That's all that matters. Everyone has preferences.
@exhibitD79 I'm gaming on my S90C right now, I do not see any difference in blacks from my S95D - except for from HDR range where it is significantly improved on the S95D. I'm only speaking from experience on my two sets
@@ehenningsen As I said, this occurs with ambient light on the screen. It's been demonstrated on a few channels already including Rtings. That doesn't make it a bad TV. It's a consideration for the lighting conditions.
I think he is using Dynamic Tone Mapping on the G4, in the first comparison video with GOW you can see the huge difference in this mode, with DTM turned off, the S90D is almost at the same level.
I don't know why you show all the time calibrate of Samsung it's too much red too much purple not natural color and I know LG G4 is a lot of problem the color is not good to because of filter green and yellow to make screen look more brightness the color pale 😤
yes, it shows very well, but the lg g4 screen flickers very much, it is visible on the phone after shooting with shutter speed , eyes water after an hour of watching, the TV is not suitable for comfortable viewing, do not believe the review, everyone is silent about this problem.
@@tr4687 I can show you on the video where you can see that there is a flicker on the screen, if you don't believe it, check for yourself, at my house lg g4 you get very tired of it, it's impossible to watch for a long time.
@@Deniskin77 did it ever come to ur mind that u have a broken unit? if u see flickering in video its bc of the camera and not the tv. dont believe this guy.
All OLED TVs flicker about the same amount, but it's not PWM flicker like on almost all LCD TVs, but a tiny drop in brightness at the refresh rate. Looking at the RTINGS reviews of both these models, the flicker graphs are **literally** indistinguishable between the G4 and S90D, except for the 0% brightness graph where the S90D seems to flicker slightly more... If you can tolerate one but not the other it's either due to settings, some non-flicker-related effect or psychological.
@tylerstirling2843 No comparison, if your upgrading from a cx. It is night and day. I didn't think there would be a big difference because the cx is good. But next to the g4. It's trash. I'm already planing to upgrade my other cx now. Don't wait it's worth every penny.
@@tylerstirling2843 I did the same, from 48 in CX to 55 in G4 as pure PC monitor and in gaming I think it's a noticeable improvement. The brightness in HDR is a nice step up, and there is no more slightly muted colors in game mode with the G4 which is probably the best part. I don't think it's like a MASSIVE difference though, but I almost exclusively play in a dark room so maybe that is a factor. Either way I'm not disappointed and I like the upgrade.
@@mkyeny9 Are colors more vivid on the G4? I know game mode has been fixed, but I’m curious if colors are all around brighter and more pure with MLA. Aside from the bump in brightness, do you see any other picture quality improvements that separate it from the CX? Thank you!
With the limitation that I'm watching these type of videos on my Sony LCD TV, when I see QD OLEDs compared to the LG G4 I'm always liking the G4 picture better, even though I'm always reading on forums how QD OLEDs blow WOLEDs away.
I have an LG G3 it's a nice tv and also quite bright for an OLED not at the level of the LG G4 but honestly still a great overall tv I do wish I had the LG G4 for game mode but fixing up some settings it seems to be good
Hi man, what is your lg g4 clarity settings? On my LG C2, I set input to game console, so that I could use more features. I turned off allm, vrr, the reason behind this, is that with these turned off, processing features like clarity work better. Input lag is okay, good enough for story driven games. In addition, I use cinema picture mode and Ai picture pro turned on, it upscales low res textures But ai picture pro is tied to sharpness, without it, it won’t work. Also I use super resolution medium and sharpness 28. Ai picture pro work when sharpness is set to 25 or over, same with super resolution. I am using this because, when playing in performance mode resolution suffers and this workaround helps with upscaling. But I want to compare. I would really appreciate for your settings, thank you👍🏻
I went to the store and saw the A95L and the G4 to buy 1 of them, and unbelievable, the sony A95L literally embarrassed the G4. So i got the A95L! Best 2023 and 2024 tv hands down.
