We probably disagree since you don't like soft flasks, but I cannot stand the sloshing when running with bottles or even soft flasks that have any air inside them. I am sure this sloshes, but probably doesn't bother you. Aside from that, this looks like an amazing solution.
one of the most useful video. you started with a fine, functional backpack. you ended up with a piece of flimsy, soon to fail sack. in the first place you had some nice small outside pocket, convient for example for gloves. you removed it, just to saw an ugly pocket back again for example for gloves. GENIUS! 🤦♂
I tried to do something similar a little while ago and I found that with certain frame shapes it does not work very well. The ombraz are designed so that the string comes out close to the vertical center of the glasses so they pull evenly and do not tilt. I found that a lot of glasses have the hinges near the top of the glasses and this would cause them to slowly tilt backwards and needed to be adjusted back frequently. Glad to see that it still works with other frame shapes.
When I noticed that the torso in this bag was too short for me and the waist belt was too long to wrap around my 28 inch waist, I seriously thought about going through a troublesome refund process... it's ok I only spent 50usd buying this, so I thought I'd try this.
Dude. I’m dying. 😂 Perfectly lined up 10:00 with some gem of a quote. It was the first thing I thought of too. You are Uber-sustainable earning infinite carbon credits by recycling your minerals infinitely. You found the wormhole to the next level of fastpacking and I love it. 🍻
Take the Anmeil 30l backpack test. It's the same design only with a hip belt. I am curious about the maximum load capacity of such a design. Regards you are doing a good job.
Subscribed. As someone who trail runs and backpacks/bikepacks, I’m looking to shave more weight while getting started fastpacking. Thanks for this. Looking forward to more of your review and UL mod videos
One thing I would like to know that I may have missed is: How much weight do you think you could pack in the c9111 and still run without it swinging/swaying significantly? It seems that many packs are designed to either hike slow with lots of weight or go fast with SUL setups. I am somewhere in the middle with 10-15 min/mi run times, lots of technical trails and tons of vert here in northern AZ. I like to run fast when it flattens and smooths out, but also don't have the lightest setup when winter sets in. Thanks so much OO.
Subscribed. Tremendous review. less than 1 minute in and I get the results. Talking about China labor costing more to our world is brave and much needed. Well done my friend. Can't wait to see more reviews like this by you.
i have the same bag. i took the foam back panel out too. However, i attached 3 elasticated cords across the back rest from the tieouts to hold a thinlight foam pad externally (easy access and stays in place) and I also attached guy lines to the bottom loops and across to the strap-loop so i can store my tent there (longer dyneema bag) since i always pack my tent outside and last (usually wet in scotland)
Great, have Ombraz on my list but they are too expensive. Have tried to find alternatives but did not manage. Bought some light sunglasses I will try this on😎
thank you :) if i was you i'd get the medium. you have a bit of a buffer in case it comes in short. also havin your toes or feet hang off the pad slightly isn't gonna kill ya. i have some regular pads where it's like that for me.
Impressive you got all that gear in the C9111 and still had fabric to roll it closed. I have one and really struggle to fit everything so will look at a compression sack.
gear and amount of days out can make a big difference. i had about 1 and a half days of food in there. it can easily fit more though. using a trekking pole tent also helps a lot.
If it is raining when you are setting up your tent, you would have to empty your pack before you can reach the tent? Maybe not a problem if everything is in waterproof packs?
all the important stuff (electronics) are in ziploc bags. i know some people would put their tent in last or near the top so when it rains they can set it up easily and first. as a weekend warrior, i've never put myself in a position where it was pouring enough for me to care.
Love your videos! In your opinion would this 30 Lt fastpak hold up for 1200 miles on Appalachian trail section hike I would only have a total pack weight of 18 to 22 lbs . Your thoughts?
thank you Mark! well, im merely a weekend warrior so i haven't dont continuous long term testing. However my c9111 has been with me for awhile now. Overnights, hikes, runs, and traveling. No issues. if i was to go on a thru hike, i'd trust it. worst case scenario, it's so cheap you can buy a backpack to leave at home and ready to ship out if needed.
unfortunately not. i have a smaller capacity bottle i use that i DIY'd. check my channel if you want to see that. those bottles are still going strong. Aonijie has hard bottle's with straws, but its not contoured. It's such a shame they discontinued it. im sure it's to save money. the new bottles they have look exactly like the aonijie ones from china. I did a little bit of DIYing with an Amphipod contoured hand bottle and the cap of the aonijie bottle. they screw together but the threads are not perfectly aligned so it leaks a lot. my next try may be using the Amphipod bottle again but with one of those bottle straw conversion kits. not the one i used in my video but some of the other ones that can fit large mouth bottles.
@@OutdoorOtakuThanks I've seen it, but this bottle seems perfect in both capacity and shape.. too bad. Might have to experiment with what I can find locally
no note yet lol. i have it and it's sitting in the closet patiently waiting. next video will probably be a overview type video going over all the packs i have. i dont think i have time to give each one an individual review. and no offense, some packs just dont deserve a whole review lol
no i have not. i personally dont like hipbelts. i prefer to use a separate running belt. i may try it though since it is lower volume. im curious if i can get it to weigh less than the c9111 when modded.
As @stigcc said, there is a 20l. however other than pack testing days, this is the pack i use for pretty much everything lol. Trail running, fast packing, day hiking, even travel. You can cinch it down pretty small.
Nice logical loadout. I have personally moved toward not compressing the quilt and other insulation. They still go in a waterproof bag, but I just fold the top over and then push the rest of the pack’s contents on top. This more closely aligns to Mike Clelland’s OG ultralight philosophy of making the pack softer against the back. After experimenting, I was surprised to find that compressing all of the soft stuff didn’t make an appreciable difference in overall pack size. My guess is that all of the other items conform better and don’t leave wasted space. More comfy, too. YMMV.
@@OutdoorOtaku I have Gossamer Gear Murmur & Kumo (28L internal), LiteAF Curve 30L and Framed 48L, and an Evolved Supply Co. Ranger 35L. I most often use the loose quilt method in the Murmur, since that pack is basically a grocery bag with straps (haha). I even leave my tarp or tent (also GG) loose on top of the quilt (separated by the bag). Then just place my food bag (including pot/stove/hygiene) and electronics bag on top of that. Squish it down just enough to roll the top of the pack down sufficiently. Warning: this will not result in an impossibly small looking pack to flex on the trail, since you’re effectively using the full volume of the pack all the time. All the Palante tiny pack influencers will scoff. Lol.
@@jpriddle haha after the mods i did on my c9111 it definitely feels like a grocery bag with straps. i'll definitely try this next trip! thank you for your comment.
Most people (myself included) put its matress folded in a rectangular shape placed against the back. Why don't you do that? I do it and feels more confortable than what you so where you can have like a crest in the middle of your bag. Good video as always!
That's a good point! I have tested it before. Believe it or not, i feel like it's more comfortable without the pad. With the pad against the back it feels bulky. Once i put the pack on, the crest conforms to my body. the only issue is if the food bag wasn't placed in correctly. a quick adjustment can make it flat. Also, another smaller issue is that the pad will get soaked if i put it there. Not just with rain, but sweat as well. Since i took out most of the back material on the c9111 except for some mesh, moisture from my back travels through it very easily. I'm definitely the odd one out! i do know a lot of people recommend this. Everyone should definitely try both options to see what they prefer. Thank you for bringing this up.
@@OutdoorOtaku It won't get soaked if you put it inside the nylofume, at least that's what I do. Will try your approach some day as it's true that it gets more bulky. Salut!
@@enricadventures5793 if it's in the nyloflume then wouldnt it get smushed down to the bottom ish half of the pack? yeah whenever i can pack vertically i do so. that's one of the reasons why i keep the side bottle pockets and back stretch pocket fairly empty/light stuff only.
@@jasonphillips8302 lesssgoooooo!!! let me know how you like it!
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Great video! Thanks for sharing 👏 Can I ask, whether you have considered or not bringing a cooking set with you, it would be a gas stove or maybe alcohol? and does this Aonjie backpack feel still comfortable for carrying it?
thank you! i did bring a cook set @ 3:28. in the pot is my stove, lighter, and isobutane canister. since i have the freeze dried food separating the pot from my back, it is comfortable.
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@@OutdoorOtaku Thank you for your reply! Sorry I missed your comment as RU-vid didn't notify me. I'll definitely look into getting a similar cook set for my adventures. I really appreciate the idea and tips!
nice! ordered one recently after your review! i'll be carrying a bit heavier loads here in Norway so i'll test it out with the frame and belt to see if it can carry 8-10kg, i'll be testing some of your other mods too! oh and if you want to ditch the puffer you can mod in a opening in your quilt and use it as a poncho at camp
let me know how the testing goes and what mods you do! about the quilt poncho- that's smart. im actually planning to do a gear mod video of the flamescreed quilt from aliexpress. looks like i'll have to do some more research. thanks!
Hey man, just wondering if a gossamer gear thinlight pad could fit in place of the back panel of the. It measures 10.7" x 19" x 1" so could be good to know if it could fit.
Hey, yes it does, but you have to trim the width slightly. Like maybe 4 inches? i forgot. Also im not sure if it actually fits in the frame pocket since i cut it out. But it does fit in the same area. That's exactly what i do for some trips.
@OutdoorOtaku would it be too much to ask for a picture showing how you're doing it? 😭😭 Also any recmendations on fastpacks that has enough space (either on the outside with a shockcord attachment, or inside in place of the pad it came with) to support the GG Thinlight or any comprable sitpad like the Thermarest Z Lite? I've tried the 20" nashville cutaway but the fabric at the bottom is too tight for most back panels I've try to fit in. I' not sure if there are any "greater alternatives" but seeing as you tested a bunch its worth an ask!
@@joshuakosloski6873 not at all! here's some pics: imgur.com/a/x7rBlig the sides curve slightly since the pad is a bit large. however it's not problematic. i'd recommend the aonijie c9111! the only other pack that i have that can compete with the c9111 in comfort is the palante joey. however the joey is too narrow to fit the pad. I have a cutaway as well. never tried to put the thinlite in it. its a nice pack. but it always felt like a UL backpack with vest straps rather than a true fast pack.
I really liked your Video(Visuals, Commenting, Precision)! I am looking for a backpack for day hikes in the National Parks in the West-USA, since I will be there on vacation this year. Your video helped me with that a lot and now I am considering buying the Aonijie 30L as a light and affordable option. - Best Wishes from Germany
no i do not. However from what i can see, they are two very different packs. One being a more traditional 40l frameless backpack and the other being a vest style 30l pack. I think it really depends on what you want to do with the pack and the gear you have. if you still dont know, just get the c9111. it's cheaper and if you cant use it backpacking, you can use it for so many other things. Day hiking, travel, biking, etc.
Nice review mate, I was actually pretty into the pack (with mods) until you mentioned the strap gap. Your aonijie 30l review was great too, i bought both the 20 and 30l packs after watching it. Both are great packs and comfortable, although the 20 is a little small for the hip belt. I also bought the Anmeilu 30l which is pretty much the aonijie 30L with the hipbelt of the 20L. Its advertised as 2 inches longer than both aonijie packs at 50cm/20 inches, but its actually 40cm/ 16 inches. Only for very short people unfortunately. Nice pack otherwise
yeah the strap gap is what really killed this pack for me. it's unfortunate since it has potential. WELCOME TO THE AONIJIE PACK PACK! 😈i love converting people oh, i didnt know that pack existed. pretty cool. so it's body length is shorter than the aonijie c9111?
@@OutdoorOtaku yeah it's all round smaller in depth width and height on the body, and end to end on the foam back at the longest point it's 16 inches and the c9111 is 18. It fits me fine apart from the hip belt is a stomach belt unless I'm pretty much at max trap length. I'm about 6ft 2 Although most fast packs including the c9111 seem to fit a bit better higher on your back like a running vest, so maybe I'm just not destined to own a fastpack with a comfortable hip belt haha (at least at budget prices)
@@MovementDrifter that's very interesting. you'd think it's the same pack body. it looks so similar. I kinda wanna give it a try now that i know its not the exact same capacity. lol yeah most fastpacks have belly belts that ride around the waist rather than hips. i hate it cause my belly wants to be free especially after munchin on food. I dont use them now, but when i first started looking at packs that was a feature i really wanted. The only fastpacks i know of that does have actual hip belts are the ultraspire epic xt and i think some packs from montane. IIRC they also have actual stiff frames. so the hipbelt can help distribute the weight. in the end i opted against it as i found it limited my movement too much.
@@OutdoorOtaku yeah I think you're right about fastpacks with hip belts, I think I may just stick to ultralight packs when I need one. If I wasn't in Australia I'd send you the pack for review, but it will probably cost the same to send it back and forth than it costs shipped from China lol I'd also recommend having a look at the decathlon quechua mh500 22l rolltop. It's like a hybrid fastpack with a hip belt that tucks away behind the water bottle pockets, vertical zip to access the body, also has a little pocket on the bottom and comes with a rain cover, but I use the pocket like a palante, for snacks and stuff. Not very light at 745gm/1.64 lb without rain cover but it's a nice pack and well priced
@@MovementDrifter haha thank you and no worries. It seems like there's a lot of interest so i may just pick one up. I need to offload some of my current packs first though... wow, so many new fastpack/hybrid packs with vest straps nowadays! Looks good. the shoulder strap pockets are a bit lacking for me. I need big stretchy ones for my bottles. Im getting kinda picky with packs. i've tried a lot now and i have a good feeling of what i like and what i dont. my next vid will probably be a breakdown of "what to look for in a fastpack". or something like that. decathlon looks good, but i dont know if it can really compete with the c9111 or palante joey
have not tested. im mostly doing 18lbs or less. I wouldnt want to run in 18lbs + with it. However walking/hiking may be fine. or if you have stronger shoulders than i do
