The 'Tolerances' on Staebies have to do with very little extra room in the housing and stem, which reduces wobble and tick. It also makes them very unaccepting of mods or thick lubes.
Built a few keyboards and used different stabs but my current favourite are the staebies fantastic stabs just lubed will sound very good no need for holee mod
I ended the video and groupbuy + raffle. I've got way to many choices already in the keyboard market. Why would I allocate $500 on a hope and wait board. This practice from owlabs is so 2020 and before ;)
This whole video is a personal opinion! I’m not telling anyone what to think, just putting out my own thoughts and reflections of this board, what it means for owlabs, and what they could potentially be cooking or the future!! I get that I’m harsh but hey for a $500 keyboard I think we should be a little picky!!
I get it, you have your opinions, and you’re entitled to them. However, if you honestly want the keyboard community to flourish, don’t ever tell a keeb maker to make their boards any more simple, even by .01%. We have countless simple ass boards that can hardly be distinguished from 100s of others. You’re doing the community of a disservice in that regard. The reason this board resembles matrix boards is because every other f*****g keyboard has boring lines, no design on the face of the keyboard, and countless other boring design choices.
Hmmmm you make a great point! But I wouldn’t quite call it a disservice. Owlabs CAN do great, complex designs. Look at the original jelly! Weird, but industrial and overall relatively cohesive. I don’t mind a super complex board, that’s fine. But in this case I called for simplicity purely because owlabs couldn’t hone in the complexity. Again I have no issue with complexity, but with cohesion. Chaos is fine, but there should be some semblance of order!! Owlabs was SUPER close here. Maybe my main point wasn’t that clear in the video- but if they wanna keep the design as is that’s fine because honestly it’s art and it’s bold and owlabs should be doing bold things. But I think from a mass appeal point it definitely didn’t help, and I’m unsure if this will be a desireable board 2-3 years down the line. But like you said, it’s all a matter of opinion!! At the end of the day owlabs is still innovating and whether someone would consider this a bad or good design is honestly whatever, because owlabs is gonna do what owlabs is gonna do!!
@@AnzelLmao DUDE i literally have 7 of those shits sitting on my desk RIGHT NOW there is no way i just said that i've been having fun with the Lumix S5II but i'm lowkey missing fuji
I like design studios that are willing to take risks and try something new. But I LOVE design studios that are trying something new that can show an evolved form of what they were. It’s a cool design, but it resonates with nothing of the Owlabs board of the past. Respect for them making a unique board, just not for me.
Can definitely see dwindling appeal for someone who described this as Matrix at home given the Matrix level price tag! TKLs are big for me, but I did the opening mechanism and mounting, would love to see them make a 60% at some point!
@@AnzelLmaoalso don’t think I’ve seen a leaf spring mount in that form factor (though I could be totally missing a board), which I think would be sick (especially with a sufficiently large bottom weight to dampen any case resonance)
Another vid from Anzel?! What did we do to deserve this. I do have to say thanks for always putting out your open and honest reviews of these keebs! You’re awesome! 🫶🏽
Thanks for the review! Personally really like the aesthetic of this, but using plate mount stabs and requiring the purchase of extra plates to get screw in or clip in stabilizer support is a bummer imo! Maybe not a deal breaker for the target market, but seems like a weird corner to cut at this price point.
Yeah it’s definitely a weird corner to cut- I noticed a few other keyboards in this price range have done similarly, like the gem80. I think it might be a prebuilt thing? Idk I wish I had the industry knowledge LOL
@@AnzelLmaodefinitely would be interesting to know how much they save by using plate mount vs. pcb mount stabs, I’ve gotta think it’s not worth more than a couple bucks (if that), but hard to know. Gotta assume TX / Durock and so on have pretty high margin on such minimal material costs, but I am definitely not an engineer.
Hmmmm that’s a hard choice!! Those are all three different boards at different price points. I can’t say much about the the bd60 because I’ve never seen it before, but damn it looks SO good. But I do have a Hibi June and I love it! I will say it doesn’t feel nearly as substantial as the luminkey60. However it has a pretty rich, deep tone in the way I built it with just a bit of hollowness in the way I built it. It’s also just really fun looking!!
@@AnzelLmao Thanks Anzel I appreciate the answer :D One thing I like about the luminkey65 is that side profile looks sooo good compared to the ol' neo65
Unfortunately I never tried the neo70! And because I’m dumb I completely forgot it existed while writing the script LOL. I will say in regards to ecoat the luminkey is definitely better than the neo65, but I’m unsure it’ll the neo70 has the same finish. But the ano on the neo80 is ridiculously good. The luminkey65’s ano should be decent if the luminkey80 is anything to go by, but it’s definitely not neo80 good. This is all I got for ya, sorry it’s not very conclusive 🫠
Hi Guys! I messed up - in my head while writing the script I mixed up the prices of the Neo80 and Luminkey80. The Neo80 is actually the same price as the luminkey65 when looking at the base kits- $140. This means that value-wise it can be strongly argued that the Neo80 is actually better in that respect. However, as a prebuilt, the luminkey absolutely trumps, no question. That being said, as a barebones kit, the Neo80 is this board's biggest competitor if layout isn't a huge deal to the consumer. Sorry about this error!
It’s definitely got a unique aesthetic! Seems like for folks not in love with the aesthetic though, may be a hard sell over say a Neo80, but it’s nice that they offer cheap keycap / switch bundles. Also cool they offer some different mounting styles for folks to play around with!
