I asked a male friend out. He said “No,” and that he “does not see me like that” and that I am “just a friend”. He also says: “I would love to hang out with you, do fun things and cuddle”. I am like… dude? Are you kidding me? I was interested. I probably will for the rest of my life. But I am definitely not gonna continue my friendship with him.
If a man isn't sexually interested in a woman, he usually won't hang out with her. As most women are at least moderately attractive, if men start hanging out with them, we start to get feelings, imagining them naked etc. The only reason sex doesn't happen is because the woman wants to just be friends, once the guy realises he usually stops hanging out with her.
i have 3 best guy friends, we were classmates in high school and we are still very good friends, even though we dont meet as often, because we are adults that have stuff going on, everytime we meet its like we met a couple days ago. they have never liked me more than a friend because im pretty aware that physically im not their type and ive always been one of the guys. i've even gone on vacation with one of them, stayed in separate bedrooms and we never did anything to cross the friendship boundary. so yeah, i think when you meet at a young age and you are not attracted physically AND you are not compatible as a couple then yes. they can be friends.
Wow, that was fucking stupid. Men and women ARE compatible as friends. But there's no point arguing with people on this subject. People who think men and women are incompatible as friends are misogynists and have never been friends with a woman. If you're one, you're also the other. I'm a guy, and half of my friends are women. I'm not gay, but I don't want anything more.
I had a short fling with a youngish (28) French girl recently. She told me that she sleeps in the same bed as her male “friends”. I thought it was really weird but she didn’t see anything wrong with it. She found it weird that I wouldn’t sleep in the same bed as her before we actually got down to business. I could never commit to a girl who thought this was ok. Any thoughts on this?
Girls will often do this if they feel insecure especially if you’re handsome and other women are showing you attention while you two are out together. She feels bad knowing that you obviously have options (often better options) and wants to bring things back into equilibrium by showing you other men will engage her in your presence and attempt to prove to you that she is also desirable to others, but this is stupid because most of the time she has to initiate the flirting which only serves to disrespect you and makes her look desperate and loose. A real man cannot tolerate disrespect so unfortunately, her actions will ultimately ruin the relationship.
Fuck all these people who are telling me what to do,they made me overthink even i am in the right path, i will be myself and make them decisions i see better , that’s how to be masculine and lead in the relationship.
Tries make me jealous I tell her to get out of my life. Simple as that. I'd rather be with someone who genuinely cares about me and respects me, or be alone.
Maybe not now, but when you start looking for more meaningful relationships, ones that involve sharing a life of substance with a woman you’ll see how important friendship with the opposite sex really is..
Great honesty. As a female I'm not interested in male friends either, I know what guys intentions are, so to nip it in the bud, when feelings aren't mutual, I don't bother. I'm good buds with my two brother in law, there my dad and a few off my cousin's who are male, that enough
A girl I knew in 2007, I had enough of her, not because of her, because her friends and my big brother controlled our friendship, so I kicked out all her friends and my big brother out of my house. Ever since I kicked her friends and my brother out of my house, I was no longer friends with her friends and my big brother. I disliked her friends because they had ruined my friendship with her, 9 years later, in 2015, she tried to get my friendship back, but she failed too, because I was no longer her friend anymore. So I walked away from her, because she chose her friends over me. From the start.
Just laughing it off makes it most likely worse - imo you should always be able to directly call bullshit when any form of disrespect comes up. Of course in a stoic and cool headed manner.
I'm all messed up about this, because my mom bailed when I was four and then giggled and called me sensitive in my 30s when I tried to have an open conversation about it. When I was seven my dad married an OCPD Mommy Dearest type. Screaming almost every day of the week, and always brooding when not screaming. It was insane. So I am massively triggered by any woman who is a piece of ish. I like honesty, but not cruelty. I'm tough as hell, but I don't play those type of games without consent.
If a Man has a heavy duty GF that rocks his world. He could be a good friends with a woman if she is married and he thinks of her as a sister, and they are basic with each other. Like just getting desert and coffee 6 times a year. Thats ok with maybe another girl as well. Not 7 women though.
NO, men and women cannot be Friends, unless you are not physically attracted to her... The only women i could be friends with, are either very fat, or very old... or blood relatives, ( mom, sister).. Otherwise, men and women have no business as friends,. Period. Most modern women are not good as friends, and what do the two of you have in common, to begin with?? One can only be friendzoned so many times.
Men and women can’t be friends in the ATL. The women here are thirsty they don’t care what a man looks like if they want you so they can get money from you they will target you! The woman may be attractive the man does not have to be! I see it all Of the time. Attractive women man looks okay but she thinks he is a lame that she can get money out of. She will befriend him then next thing you know the woman is coming on to his lame azz then they are sleeping together and he is giving her money on the regular. I see this all the time especially at work. 30% of women in the workplace are selling and they target the little guys they think are lame most men know exactly what is going on but if the woman is attractive they will Not turn her down and end up giving her half of their pay check every week or other week!
Only two scenarios I can think of where it “might work” 1. Both parties are not attracted to each other and just happen to have things in common (extreme rare) 2. You’re childhood friends and see each other as siblings (also pretty rare)
Yeah, it seems wildly insecure, and then overcompensating by trying to make your man insecure. Jealousy is naturally going to happen in any relationship. When I see someone intentionally trying to trigger me, all I see is immaturity, toxicity, and probably unaddressed mental health issues. It makes me feel like the woman is untrustworthy, skanky, and not worth my time.
@@nunka34ify Men and women can't be friends because there's always going to be an attraction....Why would i want to be friends with straight women??? What do we have in common....now, I have female acquaintance but I'm not friends with them personally...its a differences.
Possessiveness, manipulative, how much do you care, how committed, how weak you are, and can she do better, and can you do better. Women are trying to maximize. On some fundamental level, I suspect only men feel true real love. For women there's a "is this the best I can do" mindset. It's why the whitest shit I ever heard was invented, "neging" which is equally manipulative and scummy. You should be able to have a real conversation. When either of two things breaks down, trust or communication, the relationship's over. It's dead in the water. You're both wasting each other's time after that part. Also respect, I don't even want respect, I wanted to be loved and understood, but I NEED respect when dating women, solely because they have to respect you. A woman disrespecting you is a prelude to dumping you and cheating on you. The more a woman starts pulling that shit you need to begin looking for options. And she is going to notice you keeping your options more and more open and that's all you need to do (usually) to get her to shut the fuck up, now she knows, he can do better, and I better not ever disrespect him or try toying with him ever again. It's so much worse with teenagers and young 20 somethings though. I haven't tried it yet but I heard older women also still sometimes do that which is breathtakingly immature to me. Not ever again having to date a teenager or a 22 yo is by far the best part about being over 30. I simply don't need to pretend to tolerate women's horseshit anywhere but at work.
Stay away from people that uses different manipulation techniques in a way to either test you, or control you. So many women have thrown their BS in my face, without me even blinking. When they can’t make you nervous, uncomfortable and miserable, they become nothing. I said to one woman, please try your tests on Mount Everest! That mountain will be weaker than me. That hag just looked like a miserable rag.
A couple of other reasons are they want you to feel insecure as part of a power struggle, and they want to demonstrate their desirability and status to you.
Yes it's good to not be reactive, if you can. But in a real relationship, people should be able to share their vulnerabilities, concerns, values and make compromises, not just stuff their emotions and pretend not to care. Insecurity isn't the only reason you might not want a partner who interacts in certain ways with others,
The bottom line is that there is no good reason for a mature woman to be doing it at all, that is manipulative fuckbird status and those are the women you ghost and ignore. I don't know why these women do not understand this, I positively guarantee you millions of times the last 4 years did manipulative retarded white women get fucked, dumped, and blocked, and were never spoken to again by men they are now calling "narcissists" because these women are too stupid to understand: if I am a man over 30 (especially a white American we been dealing with this shit since before 9/11, see also toxic woman, modern woman, karen, don't ever try and pull this shit on a grown American man), a rich man, a man with a great career or great background, a really attractive tall guy etc, you are not putting up with manipulative games. Seriously I bet you all these dumb ass, bum ass women, many of whom are in their 30s, have kids from another man, are fat, smoke cigarettes, been ran through, are disrespectul and uncouth, or otherwise are just nowhere near as great a catch as they think, then go out and "manifest" an even worse personality with even worse entitlement they think is making them "confident" but in fact makes their character and personality even worse, and they show up on this date to a guy that is giving them a chance. Yes, if he is a good looking paralegal with his shit together and he's on a date with you even though you have a kid and a bunch of tattoos, he's giving YOU a chance not the other way around. And these grown ass, bum ass girlchildren up there immediately begin playing disrespectful and manipulative games. Guess what, *no man in America* that's over 30, looks good, works on himself is ever putting up with that shit he's dumping you and blocking you and ignoring you immediately. It's not narcissism--it's called self worth, you retards. Over and over again. They'll find a guy they KNOW has options and proceed to pull this stunt anyway, on a guy who is at a point he can choose and is looking for a serious relationship, and you act like some teenage fuckbird. No dude, just hard no. Any time you see a woman pulling stuff like this earlier on to the relationship she's telling you up front what kind of manipulative, two faced, disloyal, deceitful, immature, disrespectful raggedy ass old lady she's going to be if you are dumb enough to marry her or let her make off with your seed and trap you. I don't even care if it is immaturity or inesecurity, if you want me to stay, I need to know you can be a mother and a wife, I need to know you are able to respect me and I can respect you and we can have open and honest communication to resolve problems. I need to know how you fight, and how you resolve those fights. I am looking at things longterm look, when I get together with a woman I'm literally already mentally picturing you with your first grey hairs. Like when you think I am mentally undressing you, what I'm actually doing is visualizing what you sound like on the phone in 20 years when either I ask how OUR kids are doing, or hopefully I still consider you a friend of mine and how YOUR kids are and did your husband get the roof fixed etc. I am simply not about to be wastingn my fucking time on you and the last years of my youth on some dumb young disrespectful fuckbird and frankly if you had any damn sense at all as a woman you'd stop wasting your time as well.
Are you sure about not being emotional? I've heard a lot of people suggests naming what it is you're feeling and discussing it with your partner openly and honestly, thoughts?
Fuck maintain frame. You're not a robot, it's going to hurt if she purposefully tries to make you jealous. If a girl is doing this, put her ass on check. Alert her you don't tolerate bullshit disrespect and you're willing to walk.
Why don't we all just stay single,alot less stress and always keep woman at arms length because none of them can be trusted,they lie,cheat,use and abuse proper devious.
how do we know women are more emotional and men more logical, I know we keep hearing this but that alone doesn't make it true, what if they're less emotional, more cold and calculating?