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It’s a fair point. If you deliberately are trying to change AoA at delivery you could change launch angle and then loft choice becomes a consideration but in theory if you deliver the same AoA with both clubs with same lofts, the head shape will make a difference. 👍🏻 But seeing as your ball position will vary from club to club, you are right! 👍🏻 Thanks for the comment!
Your monitor probably shows descent angles, which were not put up. The 7 wood will clearly have a steeper descent angle, and the pros like Dustin Johnson and Fitzpatrick who use both 7 woods and 9 woods want that giant 8 iron type of trajectory and very steep descent angle so the ball will stop on a hole where they have to clear water or bunkers and land on a small, firm green. Obviously the high trajectory is more vulnerable to the wind, so if they are playing a links course with high winds, the pros will put a driving or 2 iron in the bag and hit low, running shots. So as you say, a lot depends on the type of course and holes you will be playing. A word of caution to those who might test these two clubs in a practice bay with launch monitor and screen. If the settings the establishment has used have the greens set at soft, a shot than lands on the green will stop quickly. But if you are comparing that club with another one, as in this case, and the second club flies higher but consistently lands a bit shorter, in the fairway just short of the green, it will run out further than if it had hit the green because the monitor settings will have the fairway as firmer than the green. You won't know unless you ask or do the settings yourself. This can give you an erroneous idea of the stopping capability of that second club versus the one that hits the green. They might both stop equally quickly if both hit the green, or the one with the higher, shorter trajectory may stop faster, as is the case with the 7 wood here.
The Ping G430, 3 wood has a convex face. A less than experienced golfer will hit left and right if not very careful. The G430 hybrids a child could use. They’re very user friendly.
All woods have a roll and bulge face. Even hybrids to some extent. Designed to help create spin back towards the target even if the start line is left or right. Club face alignment at impact is the biggest factor for direction unless the mis-strike is severe. 👍🏻
It's hard to watch people who strike the ball well with good swing speed make these videos because the outcome is so different from the average player.
I agree the speed of swing will make a difference to overall height but the club head design of a FW to a hybrid will make a difference. Loft even more so. 👍🏻
Nice review. I wonder what would happen if you played the 7 wood with the hybrid shaft? Better control, higher launch, but I wonder how much distance loss
Good question! Probably not alot other than an adjustment with the set up. Certainly would give perception of more control. Would have to test it! Thanks for the comment!
I’d pair them with the pro v1 if performance of spin with wedges is your wish? Or save some money and play trufeel if not. Either work for you depending on what you want 👍🏻 Thanks for the comment! 🏌🏻♂️
I switched from Pro V1 to the Triad a month ago. The Triad is more accurate, straighter and has excellent feel on the greens. Then I "floated" them in salt water to see if they are more balanced than the Pro V1s. 12/12 Triads were perfectly balanced. 7/12 Pro V1s were balanced and 5 were unbalanced. When the Pro V1 first came out, IT was the perfectly balanced ball. I don't know what happened but it isn't balanced anymore. Float them in salt water and see for yourself. Bryson DeChambeau shows you how to do it in another RU-vid video.
Never judge a ball by its marketing. Test if you can. Sounds like you move just saved some money going Triad and not lost any performance for your scoring 👍🏻
Just picked up a brand new set of the 2021 CB's - $479 shipped. Put them in play today. They. Are. Phenominal. What a steal. Flushed them and was struggling with my previous set (PXG 0311P Gen 3). Theoretically I should hit thee PXG's better with their larger heads / sweet spots, but it wasn't the case. I hit these better. Equal forgiveness. No comparison out of the center.
I went with the G425 irons, they perform brilliantly and the shorter blade length suited my eye. Another great feature is the milled grooves on the wedges as they are alittle stronger lofted it would be harder to gap buying stand alone wedges. They also look fantastic in the bag with the classic black and silver Ping logo.
63yo getting back to playing after hip and knee. Interested in the G430 iron, thing graphite a better choice, don't understand difference in the Standard G430 vs G430 HL and what may be a better choice for a aging golfer, higher handicap looking to get the ball in the air and enjoying the game.
@@TimElliottGolf Tom, feedback is much appreciated on that. I tried out the G430 7 iron with a regular graphite and the highest flex graphite I guess for seniors (not sure whats that called). I wasn't hitting balls cleanly but had ball speed approx 100mph. What shaft do you recommend I tryout with the G430 HL. Is there some light graphite shaft available. Assuming thats best for someone like me to get the best club speed, at my age and handicap situation - higher handicap. You feedback, much appreciated.
What is your clubhead speed for each of these tests? That would also be a factor for the audience to compare with their own speeds, and expectations for results.
Ok, so that is from perfect conditions in a sim. What about on the course, what about out of the rough, what about from tight lies, what about with wind or other conditions? What about in the real world?
Variables is part of playing on the course. I was interested in comparison without as many variables as possible. In course tests is something I want to do more though! Thanks for the comment! 😃👍🏻
Got the 430's and it screwed up all my distances and gapping. Went back to the G425's and all is well again. G425'S are well reduced in price now and are a bargain against the 430's. G425's look better as well.
I am older now, around 55yrs. I ended up going with the 3hybrid 19degree over fairway woods or other hybrids, I can't really get alot of distance anyways. Ofc, after I watch this , might wish I changed my mind.
Always worth testing. General rule of thumb but not always the same for everyone. Delivery of the club at impact can make a big difference. 👍🏻 Thanks for watching!
Everyone should trying lofting up their woods. I struggle with iron compression but I'm long with woods so weakened mine to fill the gap. I'm 8° driver. 15° 3 wood, 20° 5 wood, 23° 4 hybrid and a 24° 5 iron. 177 5i, 190 4h, 205 5w, 235 3w but I can push the 4h and 5w another 20 yards when I need due to extra length and speed.
Thanks …. Just about to book a fitting and this has helped a lot. I’m wanting to replace my 5 wood with an 18* hybrid and you’ve helped confirm why ! 5 w is a nice club, got it fitted 3 years ago with a good shaft that suits me just fine. However the flight on the course is too high and spinny. The course I play is short so the 5 wood is not a green finder but more a fairway finder on short and tight p4. I’m hoping the strong hybrid will get me a bit further up the fairway especially into a breeze.
Straightest ? That’s the marketing made by Wilson……the video should had focus on this question alone vs different balls in the same category not between Wilson panoply of golf balls.
With 112 ball speed on 7 iron, you should be getting more yardage than what you're seeing here. I hit the T200's and have about the same ball speed and I was getting a carry distance 10+ yards further. 159-162 was typical carry on a well struck ball. You don't show peak height or land angle data - I don't remember my launch numbers, but peak height for me was in the 75' range with landing angle in the mid to high 40's.
@@TimElliottGolf Sounds like you need to work on your delivery. If you're delivering too much loft with the T200, I can't imagine what is happening with a more "standard" lofted iron 🤣
