It sure was! With all the studio reverbs being used, I sometimes forget how special it is playing in an actual room that sounds lush and awesome! It definitely affects how and what you play!
I was one of the people that didn't like your pink album a few years ago, and I apologize for giving you shit for it. Still a fan though, hoping you're doing well and you guys play a show in Minnesota one day!
Thanks a lot for keeping in touch, my friend! I've given people shit and regretted it too, so no worries! As long as we grow and learn from what we do, it's all good. See you in Minnesota some day!
@@ShiningNorway Wow, what an honor! ..Jørgen Munkeby, no?! I will believe your word, but I never been in Hellfest! Haha I was talking about you guys! I thought the band no longer existed... I never heard from you again...sorry, my bad, I guess. Still, imo, your performance here is really one of those unique moments that sometimes occur in live music. The intensity and "strength" of the music is breathtaking! I can only imagine what it was like to watch live.. Magnificent! You were/are great! Thanks for the reply
@@ShiningNorway Wow!.. Just wow! No Sir, thank you! Again, such an honor and a privilege to me! I have great respect and admiration for you as a musician and creator! And Shining was (and apparently, still is!) one of the most interesting bands doing great muisc, of this recent past, imo. So, and that said, that's great "news"! I'm very happy to know that you are still around! And I also hope to be able to one day have the opportunity to see you live. That would be awesome! .... Cough cough "any dates scheduled for Portugal in some near future?" cough... Ahah..sorry for that No pressure, mate. I know it's not "easy" for bands to come here. One way or another, I can say that I loved this little bit! Thank you very much for taking the time and kindness to respond, man. All the best to you and yours.
This video and the song are at such odds. Visually it's Marilyn Manson boring. The music gets into actual weird/innovative with (this era of Shining) dark/free jazz freak. I love that there's a video for this song, but this one has always been an eyesore. Such a waste for the material involved. Such a great band.
@ShiningNorway your welcome 😊 me too finally.. lol i also have alot of t shirts that the sleeves are shorter the top of my arms show 😊❤ but i never minded lol
I know it's unintentional but it reminds me of "Raining blood" in the style of Shining. God forbid you change it. It will be fantastic. I will be waiting impatiently
Haha! We're definitely gonna change this song, because there's still lots of temporary stuff there. But maybe not the part you're talking about. What exactly reminds you about Reign In Blood?
Great video, thanks mate. There's loads of content out there on how to do x,y or z on a given instrument, so I like how your videos focus more on musicality and keeping the vibe interesting.
Thanks a lot! I agree! If videos are too specific to any genre or any instrument, I don't find them very useful. I think it's better to focus on the broader musicality, which also makes it easier to use the ideas for any type of music or instruments. Also, I think we've got too many musicians that are way too specialized these days. They're awesome at their instruments, but they often times lack any message or anything they want to say or convey. With AI on the rise, it's smarter for musicians now to focus more on making music with a meaning instead of trying to be perfect. Because AI will always beat humans at perfection. But humans can beat AI on delivering meaningful interpretations of lived human life. So I think we'll see a renaissance and a return to artists being true artists now, rather than perfect little wannabe machines.
Hehe! Glad you like it! It's a great little clip! Actually the first video that started a series of "Live On Location" videos that we did after that. The idea was to play aggressive and technically demanding music in uncontrollable environments, to try to make it even more interesting and energetic. Usually technical music is performed in spaces that are very controlled, and I thought that was a bit boring. So we did this place, and a live concert (40 minutes) at Trolltunga, and a song in the desert between San Fransisco and Los Angeles. Then I started making softer and more melodic music, and the "Live On Location" idea didn't work that well anymore. So there you go!
@@ShiningNorway yeah and I love each of them. You felt a bit boring but for me (even these days) was "yeah! why not? It rocks solid even there!" Started simple but great. I always wanted to ask: On mic looks great but how was there? cause the acoustic sounds really good for a construction site hahahaha Still cheer for you guys to do awesome (even softer I still like your songs). Hugs from Brazil o/ (ah, the crowd cheering at the break makes me smile everytime hehe)
Hehe! The Pakistani guy smiling is the neighbor who was running a kebab shop in the next building. I think he's still there, even though all the studios was smashed down. The sound you hear in this video is how it sounded. The only mics we had for this recording was the mics on the camera and one clip on mic on my shirt, so it's pretty real. Hope to be playing with Shining in Brazil soon!
Great and groovy! ... Same thing with guitar, I have learned to create a melody by playing less within a given scale but to slide into it, play a note much like a bongo player would tap a bongo a coupla times, zipline effect, slide back and forth from one note to another a few times, in quick succession and then bend a string in a neighboring note etc etc and whatnot. 😎
Thanks! Glad you dig it! Yeah, that sounds like something I do a lot! I choose a few notes from a scale and stick to those for some time. It creates a certain sound that is clear. By using all the notes at the same time the color is less clear. Then I can move on to another group of notes, and so forth. Thanks for your comment!
With enough practice could your play style emulated? I love the punchyness in your playing! If a guitarist went Bb fretless using the index finger to strum & the thumb - attacking directly on top. (like a piano hammer) That might be a dumb question; but i’m in transition mode.😅
For sure! Of course my style can be emulated, just like with anyone else! But it would be hard for me to suggest how to do that, since I don't know exactly what parts of my playing you like and want to learn. I think the smartest move is for you to write down a list of the stuff you wanna emulate in my playing, and then analyse several recordings of me and try to figure out more about how I'm doing those things that you like. When you've got a clear picture of what exactly you dig about my playing, and you've got some examples of it, then you can start playing it on your own instrument and see if you can get it to sound similar. Then just work on that. That's how I've done it. I've done it with John Coltrane, with Michael Brecker. I've done it with the vocals of Marilyn Manson, Corey Taylor and Oli sykes. And I've done it with recordings of my own improvisations, trying to dial into the parts I like about my playing even more. Good luck! And keep on grinding away! Jørgen
you're definitely a true musician. you never stay put, your abilities, talents and imaginatino take you to different musical styles. still amazed you could put a sax in heavy metal and make it sound good.
As a diehard Shining fan, having been introduced to you guys through Blackjazz (which is my favorite Shining album) and been part of the Shining fanbase ever since, I have to say that this performance, and album, is one of the best live performances I've ever seen. The production, camera works, arrangement, and everything is just so tight that it blew my mind as much as when I first heard Blackjazz 14 years ago. And the Ihsahn encore is perfect. Love it.
Wow! Thanks a million for that lovely comment! Very glad you like this one, and that we've managed to create a new and fresh version of the Blackjazz album! I always thought it deserved a live version.
I think that the only thing that matters - be true to yourself. If you feel doing ABBA or Cannibal Corpse album - fakk it, just do it. And keep on rolling. If you gonna try to please everyone - you gonna suffer. And so will your art, your heart, your dreams. That's what i hate about modern music in general - lots of bands or artists still do the same shit over and over again, changing couple of chords. And they may have some money value of it (duh, Nuckleback has lots of fans, but man - they just re-do 1 song over and over again...), but are they still true to THE art? I doubt it. But the saddest thing is - lots of artists even don't care. They hype and try to stay on the hype wave no matter what. That's why even pop music now (comparing to 80's f.e.) is mostly terrible. So yeah - fakk 'em and do whatever you feel like to do! Cheers.
Glad to hear! I'm mostly using Cubase, but have also been using ProTools since most pro studios where I recorded drums used that back in the days. Prefer Cubase over ProTools, though.
@@GothicOctopus Yeah, I forgot, I'm using Ableton too. Mostly for backing tracks during live shows, but also for some DAW stuff. Before Cubase 12 you had to use a dongle to open the bloody thing, so I used Ableton for small tasks whenever I didn't wanna fetch the elicenser. Hehe! Now I still do it, even if they ditched the dongle on Cubase 12.
@@ShiningNorway ableton was my go to for live shows too! We had automated lights with a program I built in touchdesigner. Deadmau5 uses it and it’s only limitations are your computer. No shame in backing tracks. Just make the audience happy.
Hehe! That was kinda the point when I made the album. Most people said I should include some softer songs to let people have a break. I didn't wanna do that. If people get tired then they can just press stop. 🤣
The midi keyboard controller is an Arturia keylab essential? I'm a guitar player so I'm not a real keyboard player 😂 So for you, what the best controller with a real feeling and best perception?
Haha awesome! Takes me back to the first time I saw SHINING live: somewhere in Groningen (The Netherlands) during the Eurosonic Festival, in january of 2010 I think. Complete madness, the venue exploded
This is very interesting and an extremely efficient way to handle playing keys live! Does mainstage load all the sounds in at once or how does it overcome the latency of switching to entirely different samplers with different effects in Logic?
That's an interesting question! With Shining we're doing more soft synths, which is heavier on CPU than on RAM. But with Emperor it's more sampled instruments, which taxes the RAM more than the CPU. So the RAM is really what I need to pay attention to the most. I have one patch per part in a song, and the patches are grouped into song groups which can be moved around when the set list changes. I am only skipping forward, which means that if the same patch is used for three choruses in the same song, then I have three instances of that patch in my concert project. This could easily lead to the RAM getting bogged down if the computer had to load the same sample library multiple times. So I'm overcoming this problem by using what MainStage is calling "alias" patch. This is basically a patch where it's only referencing another patch, and doesn't load the samples twice into memory. The CPU is not a big problem, since it's really only calculating running audio for the current active patch, plus a set amount of time for the previous patch, to keep release tails, delays and reverbs etc. I set that to 5 seconds, but the user can decide. There are sometimes super short dropouts when switching patches, but they're less than 100 ms, so I don't count it as a problem
Thanks a lot! Glad you like the sounds I've cooked up! I've spent some time making them, and trying to make them as efficient as possible using relatively few plugins, but still enough for them to sound cool. The great thing is that you can really tweak every details and make sure that levels and EQ and dynamics between each sound is matching.
@@ShiningNorway That's awesome! Having worked with Kontakt mainly for drum libraries and some orchestral stuff here and there the RAM usage was what I was mainly worried about. I just watched your concert at Hellfest with Emperor after seeing this video, great work! 🔥
Thanks a lot! Glad you liked the show! Yeah, loading the libraries as Aliases as much as you can will help you with the RAM thing. My current computer is a stock MacBook Pro M2, with no extra RAM, and it works great for this.
Thanks a lot for sharing this with us! That was fun to watch and also to learn something new :) I remember a shorter video you did some years ago, but this was really in depth and very useful 🙏 I guess Main Stage is only for Mac so an alternative would be Ableton or something similar. Hoping for similar demonstration for Shining rigs 🤞
Glad you liked the demonstration video! And yeah, this could easily have been an hour long, but I tried to get the essential in. I haven't checked but I wouldn't be surprised if MainStage is for Mac only. MainStage is pretty cheap, though, so you could consider buying a MacBook Pro only for live keyboard use. Anyway, lots of people use Ableton for this too. But I find that having one patch for every part, which can be 10-15 per song, is a bit tedious with Ableton. It's probably easier using Ableton with fewer patches.
@@ShiningNorway nice tips also for my personal project with a lot of keyboards in the vein of 90's Norwegian Black Metal (Emperor, Satyricon, Kvist, Dimmu Borgir...) 🤘🏻
@@ShiningNorway yes I have a Korg DM 50 and an expander from Roland, the same Ihsahn used on Anthems (searching on internet and pick up by second hand, really great expander/sound and use my Korg like midi controller)
Haha! Glad you liked it! It's a fun clip! Had forgotten about it, but I might repost it on other platforms now. Btw, that riff towards the end is still an unused and unfinished song. Should probably get that finished soon! Haha!
