I’m sorry but Astarion just gets in the way of everything. He ruined the game. He took so much time away from developing other characters. No, I am not one of those people who kill him every time. But damn. He’s such a selfish jerk and everyone thinks he’s an innocent baby.
This is an incomplete quest, there's no acknowledgement that you might kill the dude before visiting this guy. After engaging with him in dialogue, you're arbitrarily locked into the outcome where Astarion doesn't get his quest progression.
My Tav would have hellish rebuked him right then and there Then again my Karlach killed him last night by throwing an enlarged miniature giant space hamster at his head, sooo ... retri-Boo-tion?
God Astarion is such a whiner. Good riddance. I thoroughly enjoyed getting rid of laezel at the creche then astarion here…I loved seeing him as a zombie when I went to cazador’s palace…hilarious. He got what he deserved
But, wait. The House of Hope is floating above Avernus. Which I believe is the level of hell Raphael is from. in order to get the Orphic Hammer you have to kill him. How is he still alive?
You do not have to kill Raphael to get the Orphic Hammer. You can visit him at the brothel in Rivington near the beginning of Act 3, where he will offer you a deal: the Orphic Hammer in exchange for the Crown of Karsus. If you agree, you are given the Orphic Hammer.
Ive always hated that this happens with astarion. Like as the player you didn’t know if you do it like this. Had this happen to me and had to reload a save and just attack him without speaking to him (the demon). Its kinda bs to get disapproval for something you didn’t know would happen especially since that guy attacks you first (that dark just)
I didn’t find out until the last justicar later, but I convinced Yurgir to kill everyone and then himself, because when I went in fighting I would die every time
I love helping Yurgir in the gauntlet of Shar. He shows up in your camp to tell you to break the contract with raphael (if you signed one) and helps you find out how to get in to the house of hope later in act 3. And when you fight Raphael he instantly joins you instead of needing to be conviced. Because he sees you as a worthy hunter. On top of that Orthon's, while evil, are still suffering because of devils above them. Their armor is usually bolted right in to their skin and this brings along maggots and other fine joy. Every movement is painful for them. Now, they are bloodhungry contract killers that are loyal to hell at first and the highest bidder at second. But I still cant help feeling a little bad for Yurgir.
