I only have 10 hours on my 4075r, but the electric three-point was nice. Unfortunately, it's sitting at the dealer with too many issues, and I'm asking to have the tractor taken back. What is the flow rate to rear remotes and 3rd function? Can a backhoe still be added to this newer model?
Just checked the shop manual and got 12.36GPM implement pump flow @ 2,600 RPM. That will flow from rear remotes and 3rd function. As of right now there isn't a backhoe option. The older RX had it as an option, but it wasn't very common. Maybe they decided it wasn't worth it, or maybe the subframe just isn't designed yet.
LS has always been interesting to me, but like most, I don't have any dealers close by. They're the 3rd place manufacturer out of Korea so support isn't as good nationwide. If I had a good local dealer I wouldn't shy away.
I own a small bota it junk got it used when it got dropped off they broke the tail light and the handle bar plus a back up light they said to bad Kubota is junk and here in pa the guy that sells them is junk never buy a Kubota period I'm not sold on this yet im a case guy
I bought a NX 4510 in 2023 and had constant problems with the NX. It was a lemon and in some case dangerous as it went into neutral on its own often when I was on a hill. It was in the shop several times for over 10 weeks in the first year. I have had many tractors since 1996 and this was by far my worst experience. I bought a DK 5310SE in 2024 and have been happy with the change. I was not happy with how Kioti addressed the situation. The NX had many problems and the company should have been more willing to work with customers.
This is interesting. None of the problems the NX had during its run would make it jump into neutral randomly. My guess is the H/M/L shifter linkage wasn't fully seated (it was hard to engage on that model) or the pedals were getting input at the same time. If the F/R pedals both got any input at the same time it would give an error code and stop moving. Either way, i'm glad they were able to get you switched over!
I think if I were to take the nicest/biggest lawn tractor money could buy with a 60% deck i'd still be 50%-75% faster with this unit. One turn around trees and corners, 180 degree turns at the edge of the flat long straights, and way more hillside confidence.
Going down hills is very controlled. The only problem it shares with regular zero turns is that it can't back straight up. I changed tires to something more aggressive and solved this. The big PRO Z units have an E Brake, but you don't need to use it unless you have an emergency (like a drive belt breaking). If you remember it's there you can use it on the fly. The units transmissions hold it back going down very well.
@@kentonequipment4687 Thanks for all the input! So dealers around here are not great unfortunately. They have a demo proz 554s and they want to sell it to me, with discount.. But they won’t let me demo it because they say “then it’s used”…. But they took my trade for “demo evaluation” lol! They want 8250 for a new proz554s. If it wasn’t for the cheap price I’d run.
minor gripe but if you compared to the actual similar model of Emax 22, you'd find many of the points moot. I had an emax 22 and compared to the emax 20 it was completely different. it had steel lines on the loader, much thicker metal on the loader, much bigger and heavier overall, side by side HST pedals, full grill guard, hood opens from front, front radiator, much higher lift capacity (underrated I believe to push people into larger tractors). When originally shopping I saw them side by side and couldn't believe they were in the same series they were so different.
Yeah I think the greater point was that these 2 models can be bought for about the same price locally. I actually just checked currently, and they're still higher priced than we are between these two models. How much tractor can you get for the money?
Are you asking about front 3rd function hydraulics? It definitely has power beyond available at the loader valve, and hydraulic flow is over 20gpm coming from that.
@@rinacamden3629 It has 3 remotes that all have the option to lock power open. Hopefully that answers your question. I don't know if we're using the same terminology.
It definitely slows down when functions are split, where the Kubota isn't as noticeable, and the Kioti dual functions are harder to find. Deciding between ease of use on the loader and raw power is the biggest trade off.
Hopefully the paint quality is improved. My 2018 CK40sE paint faded bad within the first few years. And I keep it under a porch. I’m actually looking to upgrade and undecided. I’d like a utility but only have a half ton truck so basically limited to maybe a DK maybe an NS..
This is a good video. I've got a Kubota that I'm happy with, and my dealer is only 15 minutes up the road vs. my nearest Kioti dealer which is at least 90 minutes one way. Having the dealer nearby has saved me a few times getting back up and running same day; if I had a Kioti dealer within spitting distance like my Kubota, I'd probably have a Kioti outside instead. I didn't know that they were Kioti-built from the ground up like Kubota; that was a huge selling point for me over the guys in green, given the headaches I've had with other equipment built by multiple outfits.
What?! Kubotas are supposed to be completely trouble free! But seriously, you're right on the money. Dealer service and support are the most important factor. All equipment will have some sort of problem every once and awhile.
I'd assume it's accurate. On some of the smaller manual transmission models the PTO retains a little more HP, but on larger (more featured) models there are some other hydraulic systems that take power from the PTO clutch.
You're going to find that most dealers don't post pricing at all because it takes a MONUMENTAL effort to keep all that stuff current and accurate all year long. If they, do they might post MSRP, but I couldn't tell you i've ever seen a dealer actually selling at MSRP. The market is to competitive for that. If you look at our website you won't see MSRP. You'll see accurate sale pricing that's around 20% less than MSRP, and i'd guess falls in line with where most dealers around the country are.
Sad they discontinued the 500 series. However, my dealer has two still on the showroom for a bargain so I'm picking my 560L up Monday. Very informative. I was leaning to a bad boy rebel but I can grab the 560L for the same cash price so it's a no Brainer.
Brigs manufacturers all the frames and all of the parts for every commercial zero turn they're all the same s*** they're all the same parts MTD pretty much owns the world
I was wondering why I can get a 54 inch deck on a 700 ,but not a 900 if the frame size is the same.....is it because of the tire width on the 900? Thanks
No, it just has to do with market demand. The tires on the 900 are taller than the 700, but not wider. There's not a huge market for a full size frame commercial zero turn with a deck smaller than 60". I don't see a demand for a 38.5hp engine pushing a 54" deck. The only argument for getting the 900 would be the air-ride seat.
@kentonequipment4687 yes that was what I wanted. Some of the yards I mow are tight and my 48 inch mower gets through, so I really don't want bigger than the 54, but would love the air ride seat. Do you think it could be ordered that way?
@@jjwatkins9937 It could be bought through parts, but it's an expensive option. The suspension seat on the 700 is really nice on it's own and would be generally preferred over spending $2,000 just for air ride.
Great job on the video! This has been the most helpful video I've found while shopping for a Kioti tractor. Will the NX be replaced by a new model? Something to complete with the grand L.
I had a great conversation with the lead product manager at Kioti a few months ago. We were talking about the "dream changes" to ultimately fill out the product line. The RX should be made a little bigger, going from 80-90hp, and the NX should come in starting at 60-65hp, and ending at around 75hp. It could have the 4 cylinder the RX has (they share the same hood, so there should be room) and have the most advanced features with a newer electronic HST. Who knows what we'll see in the future!
Can you use an app on your phone and check your neighbor’s steepest hills and measure the degree of slope and report back? I checked my front lawn and my slopes range from 25-40
I just checked the part on this specific tractor, and if it did need replaced its about $3k. I assume the similar part on the Mahindra is similar replacement cost.
My local kubota dealer did me a great service. They were so shitty and shady they lost an easy sale. So I went and found Kioti 30 miles down the road -bought a tractor in about 10 minutes. It’s better and cheaper in every way. The dealer is amazing. Thank you Crystal Tractor in Chiefland Florida for making me a Kioti guy.
I ended up with a john deere x700 series because I wanted a gas powered. Yes diesel is better I know. Gas is just what I use for all my equipment. Saves accidental wrong fuel mishaps.
Just traded my X-One for a hyperdrive and it's alot more fun to mow with. The cut quality is definitely better and it hauls ass. Ride quality is better as well.
Is it worth going to a Super Z over an X just for the Hyperdrive system? I need something to cut my 6 acres with. Trying to justify the extra money for the Super
In your situation? No. The real benefit to the system is longevity and power in the transmissions for units being abused every day. A Super Z is already overkill and will last a long time mowing 6 acres. It already has the same engine/transmission combo as the largest commercial zero turns from other manufacturers. I think you're good to go with it!
This was a VERY good comparison of the CK Se Kioti to the Kubota L 02 classes of Compact tractors. With the " WIN" clearly going to Kioti CK Se's. The Kubota has the "Spilt-brakes" & it is the only "Real plus". ( l do have a bigger Kubota/ a MX,& its Great,reliable...but primitave ; just like the L series Kubota. Kubota just doesn't have Amplifying Bucket-linkage assembly's, or Modern stearing( they use diagonal unprotected link bars HANGING out in Front Purely UNPROTECTED, & that "Goofy-Old-School" & Clunky Loader valve just "Hanging-out-there" BLOCKING lots of Visability,& Eliminateing Right-side access& egress. Kubota's Prices are WAY out of Line,& are living Off of their "market-share name"... they are good tractors / BUT So are ALLLL the Rest. Thank you Sir for the Excelent vidio and happy safe tractoring. Best wishes with all your endeavours.
UPDATE: The NX was the oldest model in the Kioti lineup and has officially been discontinued for 2024. Now it will be easier to decide which 45-60hp Kioti fits your needs!
@@PeachEater81 I've had conversations with the lead product development manager about our dreams for the NX. If I had to guess we'll see it updated next, with the same treatment given to it as new HX and RX. Who knows how far out that will be?
I have an open station NS6010 with about 28 hrs so far. It is a powerful machine. The loader is strong and quick. The stance is super-stable compared to the L series Kubota I had previously. I have loaded tires and rarely need the 4WD. The HST is very quiet. It can be difficult to engage the mid range unless you tap one of the HST pedals. For whatever reason, the low and high range usually go right into gear. The reason I chose the NS6010 is the power for one, but also the Class 2 three point hitch. It is much more rugged than on the DK's I saw. I bought it to do loader work, both for gravel, etc, as well as pulling hay implements. I don't use a hay wagon on my baler so 60 hp is more than enough. I use the tractor for grapple work in the woods. It is compact enough to manuver easily. It is just very easy to drive. So far I really love this tractor!
Honestly, companies these days are making things too complicated. Just name your models 35, 55, 65….or whatever horsepower, and then you give an option for cab and transmission for each. Like why do you have a tractor on the same frame and then throw a cab on it and different transmission have completely different power ratings? It’s not like the horsepower is so different you couldn’t have either transmission option. Also, why do you give different options for different tractors on the same frame? Why can’t I just get the same options. That doesn’t even make sense. It’s just too complicated. Be like Volkswagen. You have the S, SE, and SEL in each model. You know exactly what you’re getting with each trim. The car, horsepower, and everything else is the same. The only thing that changes is the options…..
You didn't mention that it has a wet clutch which easily doubles the life expectancy of the clutch components, maybe even more... I've heard of wet clutches inspected at the 7k hour range that measured at basically new spec, ie zero wear.
