Carving is about curves and speed. It is pretty tough though. It’s the closest to ocean surfing, its both technical and artistic bringing a great feeling of pleasure, motion, and freedom. Carvers maintain speed naturally without having to push even on flat ground. - A simple, fast steezy line will take the cake any day -
There is a point in the carving where you can kick out the tail or the front, and you can actually kick two times to slow down even more. With more force, you end up full braking, and it won't be as good for the wheels so this mini brake trick allows for more adjustments without full stopping. It's easier to kick the tail of the surfskate since the positioning of the foot matters. It should be outside of the wheel base.
When drifting, I kick out at the very beginning of the carve and keep pushing out the entire carve. In addition, I kick out with both feet simultaneously.
Hey, I discovered you by reading old articles in reddit. I just wanted to thank you for sharing your knowledge about builds and i just love your videos. As a beginner i already learned a lot from you! I love the way you think out of the box. Imo you give us much more information than other mainstream channels. Please continue ! Beste Grüße
Hey Alex, much appreciated! Setting up different custom builds is highly addictive : ) If done right, a customized board is just way more fun to skate. I will definitely set up a few boards this season and present them on this platform. Spring is right around the corner🙂 - looking very much forward to the upcoming season. Beste Grüße aus Hamburg
@@DoubleOverhead i can't wait to see them! We are trying to document our skateboard progression through my channel (please have a look when you got time, it would be an honor) and i already built a small quiver for that purpose but you're right, setting up and tweaking is very addictive! Thanks again for sharing your knowledge. Beste Grüße aus Wien
hey it's great that you can slide longer now. btw, what board are you using? i like the wide board, gives control. and what wheels? have u tried sliding wheels like g-bones, g-slides or snakes by powell peralta? their awesome.
Thanks a lot Bro! The stand up slides are not really long yet but I will get there eventually. I road rashed my ancle doing a long stand up slide - ever since, I am practicing longer slides with gloves first. That way I can fall on my butt when having to bail :) Hopefully, by the end of this season, I will be able to do drawn out stand up slides - first the glove slides have to be drawn out though. Video clip of me doing glove slides coming soon. I already have the footage. I am riding the new BooyahBoards 10inch surfskate deck. The TUB concave and deck was developed for this kind of skating. Wheels are 65mm Metro Super Sport 85a - these wheels are sliding wheels. One of my all time favorite! They still offer enough grip even though they slide very well. Hookup is super smooth. Extremely long lasting and the rebound is excellent. Gotta try them Snakes some day though. I have a lot of Powell Peralta thane - love it! Cheers!
@@DoubleOverhead+1 great stuff here! As a Older rider I really am not interested in falling at high speed and also enjoy riding some hills, my favorite set up is flow surfskate trucks and wheels on a Earthwing Amazon, major concave and wheel flares and a kick tail, I can carve hard enough to get back up hill before running out of road and having to carve back, on steep hills you really need to carve hard enough to get the board pointed back up the slope before making the next turn!
@@danoyes1 Thanks Dan! I am an older rider myself. Practicing low style drifts make falling at higher speeds controllable. Once you go for carving at higher speeds, you will get addicted to speed.
@@DoubleOverhead 🤣 ouch, been there, done that! Eventually we all slow down and realize that speed really is overrated. And at our age we definitely don't bounce like we used to, and the scary part is we're not healing like we used to either. When one bad line, no matter how low we get in the slide, can incapacitate us for life it really is all about slowing down and enjoying the journey. All of my efforts these days are focused on attaining a level of skill where sliding (standies and shutdown) is no longer necessary... when I hear wheels honking and thaneing I can't help but give the grom some pointers in skill development 🤓 The best part is, the slower you ride, the more riding you get to do! I used to bomb a local run in minutes and hike for almost a hour, the hike is still the same but now I get a ride time almost 20 minutes! ❤️
Depending on the surfskate, it make end up wobbling more than the long board, but depending on the surfskate truck, pumping can get you just as fast as pushing once the acceleration is maintained until fastest speed. My Carver CX is the fastest one, but it doesn't turn as sharp since it's more a hybrid.
Bought myself some Slide Gloves for this EXACT reason to practice this with my surfskate!! I'm not about to bomb a hill but I want to go down more safely! Great video man! Thanks for putting that together!
Thanx Denise! The way I see it, the very best video about that kind of glove slides is this one : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ECOD-DT6ark.html Gotta wear a thick pair of pants when practicing : ) Cheers!
Thank you! There is different ways of surf-skating narrow slopes. Gotta make sure to be 100% in control though. That curb still scares the sh*t out of me : ) Always try baby steps only. If you skate gnarly slopes, just start at the very end and slowly work your way up. That way you can always make sure, you won't be overwhelmed by fear. Loose riding is Key.
Really great that the flex is working for you! I tried to setup a flexy Loaded Tan Tien with some Carver CX and it wasn't working as well as expected. It worked much better with a stiff deck... But that was long time ago and maybe my skill improved in the meantime. Your video inspires me to continue with my little experiments. You do have a really nice style - love watching your videos!
Thanks Denise! Flex is actually ideal for carving. Plus pumping is way more effortless when using a performance flex. That said, it most definitely ain't that easy so if your ridin' has improved , I would give it another shot.
I really need to remember that the easiest way to slow down is actually to go upwards! Nice video!! And cool flexy/bouncy board - where is this deck from?
Thanks for watching Denise! The deck is the new BooyahBoards Classic, available at BooyahBoards.com & Concretewave Skateshop Cologne. Going upwards is the best way to stop, when starting to surf- skate wide slopes.
Much appreciated Denise! This clip about Stand Up Slides helped a lot: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pt5zABPTllc.html I started out with Slashes, at the moment I drift with all 4 wheels, but I am working on drawn out slides that can be done right when initiating a carve. That way, I will be able to completely slide my carves. Means, I will be able to surf-skate way more aggressive lines than ever before. Still lot's to learn though - I am onto it : )
@@DoubleOverhead Actually feels fine to me installing the sidewinder with the manufacturers bushing tightness, which I though was pretty stiff to start out with. I was running my rear truck super loose to the point I was burning through pivot cups like you would not believe so transitioning to the double kingpin was very quick. Sure I have to be a little more careful with wheel bite, but if I had actually got the board over that far, I deserved to fall off.
@@RaetacRages I always use risers for sidewinders when surfskating top mounts. That said, if used together with a C7 and dialed in medium APS Riptide bushings (different shapes) plus risers, I can even run 72mm wheels on my current setup without getting bite. If not dialed in, bite is an issue.
Hi great video's you do by the way, and your similar height and weight to me also. Skated in the 70's when I was young got back into surfing again to. That's how i found out about Surfskates been messing around with different rigs. Can you tell what the back truck is please? Cheers Martyn Uk
You said the magic was in the bushings and washer. What did you change the bushings to? And did you change the washer to a flat washer instead of cupped?
I used softer duros for the front truck. In addition I swaped some cup washers for some flat ones. Last but not least I played around with different bushing shapes. That way the trucks react roadside first before getting initiated boardside. Check out Riptide bushings for different shapes. TKP bushings will work. If not big enough, use flat washers to fill in the gap. Hope that helps!
Man, I have to say that you have give me a huge inspiration with all your set ups. It's so cool to see all variations that you have made and to check how awesome you ride them, ¡"style it's everything"!. So, thanks a lot because the spark of skateboarding shine inside of me again XD. You have a big really fan from Tenerife, Canary Islands. P. D. : I hope to get a Vanguard model soon and to experiment with flexibility and surf adapters!
Bro, your comment made my day! Awesome, the spark of skating is shining again! When experimenting with flex and surf adapters you will find that carves, speed and flow bring a great feeling of pleasure and freedom. The adrenaline rush is very similar to surfing and the pavement is a playground. : ) Cheers!
Im no expert in downhill with a surfskate. I have done longboarding and some surfing. But am just wondering, the hand movement that you do in the video is the opposite that i do when carving or is it a technique to go downhill with a surfskate?
Zefe this was my fist time skatin' a small slope like this. In addition there is a dangerous curb. Usually , I turn my head when carving and look where I wanna go. This slope was too tight for carves so I had to uses slashes in order to stall. It may look like I am carving but I am actually slashing. Of course it can be done much smoother than this. This was scary and I was a little uptight.
@@DoubleOverhead ahhh i see.. I dont usually do downhill with a surfskate but tempted to try it. Just afraid of the speed wobble. Have always rely on my longboard. But surfskate is loads of fun to ride on when there are flat days for surfing
@@zefe3886 Just don't start with a narrow / steep slope like this one if there is a curb. When starting always look for a wide slope so you have time to react. The slope in the clip does not allow for any mistakes whatsoever. Surfskates can be used for steep slopes when doing slashes or carves. Bombing won't be possible though.
@@zefe3886 I forgot to mention: when surfskating fast keep at least 60% of your weight on your front truck at all times. This will avoid wobbles while carving. When stalling drift your carves or do some power slides that are not drawn out. I am damn sure shut down slides will work as well. Keep in mind adapters are too sketchy for sliding or riding fakie so you will have to adapt.
Pretty sweet, some nice carving going on there. But not a whole lot of board lean. I find a large amount of lean much more enjoyable while carving. I'd be riding atleast a 40" wheelbase with a 5ft + longboard with a full 45 deg or so of full lean on that hill, at about half that speed.
Thanks a lot bro! Yep, unfortunately Carver C7 does not offer that much lean. The Flow C7 offers is awesome though. Better than Yow or Waterborne. I definitely agree with you that more lean is more fun. That said, I am riding 70mm wheels and do not risk bite with this setup.
You cannot bomb with a surfskate. I can carve downhill way faster though without getting wobbles. At the moment I am getting close to 30mph/ 50kmh when looking at top speed
Thanks a lot Martin! The feel of drifting downhill is highly addictive. I was only doing 2 turns to keep it simple for the up comming tutorial. Don't even know if I wanna blow up 'cause I think quality over quantity is actually the better choice😆 Cheers mate!
This is just the very beginning! I can do all kind of surf maneuvers and turns riding this style. & I am damn sure it can probably be done even much smoother and more aggressive. Cheers!
Hey man can you explain why the 21” wheel base is better for downhill surfskate . I bought a carver triton 32” cx and it sucks for down hill it doesn’t feel smooth more like a toy. It is good for catching fast speeds on flats . Or going fast downhill But I like smoothness of larger board and c7. I’m wondering if I should buy a vanguard loaded and change my cx from triton to vanguard and if that would work better for smooth downhill? My main concern with longboard is that if it gets fast it is hard to turn up to control speed o had bad accident going downhill on a longboard that is why I switched to surfskate downhill but wondering if longboard and surfskate is good for me .
Hey Sebastian, a 21'' wheelbase offers better flow, better top speed and is less prone to speed wobbles. But the acceleration when pumping is slower. When starting downhill look for a gentle & wide slope or start at the very end of the slope if the incline is stronger. Always make sure you are not going too fast and lose control. If a surfskate truck or adapter is used you can turn uphill as soon as you start feeling uncomfortable. The Vanguard is an excellent deck but really pricey. That is why I recommend test riding it before you make a decision. Riding is more about the action - not so much about gear. You can have lots af fun with a Triton as well. If in doubt look for a used longer deck and just use your surfskate trucks on it. Cheers!
@@DoubleOverhead thx , I actually started doing torque and bouncing side to side, it is definitely different than normal surfskating using back wheel and not using board flex. I like it , feels like snowboard I imagine a longer board with flex will be very cool for this style of side to side flow. It seems to be more similar to surfing as well since there is a bunch of up and down movement to generate speed
@@tsiwt Flex is highly addictive. There is no better feel when carving hard than having a flex that suits your weight and style. Flex will make you accelerate when coming out of a turn. In addition, it will create lot's of extra momentum when pumping.
Haha Martin, no -just showing what's possible with a surfskate and some snaps. I am working on a tutorial at the moment. These lines were part of it. That curb freaked me out though that's why my trailing arm is so stiff :) Cheers Bro!
Thanks Billy! The new surroundings are perfect. Lot's of wildlife that has gone everywhere else is still here. The air is very best quality and there is plenty of clean lakes. Last but not least there is many awesome spots. I am just getting started again. My rear foot had to heal first. Will do a new clip any time soon. My new studio is gonna be the new garden we have : )
love the surf adapter on long wheelbase loaded Vanguard is insane with flex. my choice is Bennett Vector on waterborne adapter and revenge truck for the back!
Thanks a lot Brett! Isn't the Bennett Vector not too divey when used on an adapter? I've tried Revenge rear trucks - the turn was awesome but the lean really sucked. In addition, the wheelbase was shortened by a lot and the sweetspot felt tippy so I had to go for a harder bushing and dewedge it. I like Revenge trucks anyways though 'cause they are lightweight and good quality.
