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ayaka lost her relevancy once a strong front load dps that doesn't rely on burst to deal dmg is introduced with the same if not better aoe in this case neuvillette and her situation worsen once they introduced arlecchino, she's also prominent at only one cryo comp which is freeze that's currently bad in abyss unlike wriothesley who's versatile with both freeze and melt the same with ganyu, the only time people would prefer ayaka over neuvillette is when the enemies is immune to hydro that's if they don't have arlecchino
I have her c2 , I didn’t get her signature, and I don’t regret having her , I don’t really play her often anymore, because of Wrio but I’m not forgetting her either
Yeah no. Nothing changed with Ayaka, and lack of dendro teams is a nothingburger. The only thing that changed is that abyss is full of enemies that can't be frozen. That's literally it.
would i recommend pulling for her? in the past yes 100% but now she's too expensive and other recent characters powercreeps her dmg at low investment. look if you have ayaka since then, shes still very playable and fun (i have her). but the meta rn, hoyo didnt want for everything to rely on bursts and decided to make characters that rely on skill or reactions. now imagine the same dmg on ayaka but in skill form. if characters are like that now, why would you pull for ayaka? and to answer your question, she can still clear abyss.. just takes a lot of brain power which is very frustrating at times unlike fontaine characters just random shi go
I mean, I wouldn’t despair yet because her element, Cryo, has yet to actually show up with Snezhnaya. And I doubt Hoyo won’t make any buffs for that element. Can’t wait for the Pyro one!
when it comes to freeze teams Ayaka is still the best DPS for pure and heavy cryo damage imo Characters like Wriothesly are considered good not because they’re more powerful but because they don’t require a team as premium as Ayaka freeze (tbf just being good in melt teams makes you easier to play and f2p friendlier than ayaka and it’s never even close) Even by todays standards she still does crazy dmg But we never get to see that anymore coz hyv stopped focusing on making things Ayaka friendly I knew it was Joever when I couldn’t even comfortably run her in abyss anymore (basically since 3.8/4.0, I started in 3.0 and she was my best dps so uh that was devastating)
Imma be real when it comes to melt for cryo there's literally no options Nahida applies pyro yippee but kazuha us better as he applies and buffs For ganyu her best melt team is STILL Kazuha,bennet,xiangling These are literally 1.0-1.5 characters We have no new pyro applier except xiangling Look at pyro Furina,yelan Yelan is a copy paste xinqui So why can't we have another copy past xiangling? Same thing for bennet We haven't had a CC unit in ages if we get a pyro cc unit Cryo might actually come back
She is one of the biggest losers of Dendros introduction. Cryo wasn't great when she was introduced, but Dendro and its Reactions being so much better made her just so much more inedaquate in comparison. Why use a Cryo character, when you can just use a Dendro-team that is so much more effective for less investment?
Hmm Don't Get this video wrong Ayaka is still a great Character What matters is the type of enemies ur fighting against if u can freeze Them Then it's good But if u can't its just pain and Most importantly Expand Ur Horizons to more strategies and Ideas Not only focusing on one Type of dmg But all types of dmg.
Ayaka was always and still is my favourite unit, i have her built wirh huge time investment, giving her just a little under 300% CDMG and (with the freeze set bonus) 100% Crit rate. Triple crowned, signature weapon (R1, C0). With all that being said, Ayaka performs way worse than for example Alhaitham because of 1) Reactions and 2) that enemies in the abyss. For example the current one features those 2 unbelievably tanky, freeze resistant and mobile fencer women released with fortaine. As long as these enemies reign the abyss, there's no place for ayaka. Give us say pyro cubes, hydro enemies and a bit less mobile enemies that can be frozen again and she'll rise to the top again
ayaka is balanced around freeze so when freeze gets fucked she gets fucked and this has been happening since 2.4 which is when ganyu fell off ayaka could hold on abit longer through sheer numbers and being less venti reliant but we haven't really had a good abyss for freeze since nilou's release abyss nilou teams imo completely took over the freeze niche nilou shines in the same situations as freeze but with more damage lower investment needs higher floors(lower ceilings)and also works in more situations since there are fewer dendro immune/resistant enemies ,she doesn't need enemies to be freezable she can actually handle boss content (without 5* weapons or cons all you need is c2 collie+clam on your healer since she help you frontload a ton of blooms) and mobile enemies don't hinder her rn hoyo seems to like the abyss setup of 2bosses+one AoE or 2AoE+1boss and since they also love the dancing robots and their 70%cryo res all AoE teams are forced to have some kind of ST coverage and vice versa while ayaka can cover both so that's not the problem the issue is hoyo's holy trinity of enemies coppelius+coppelia/baptist/time wasters (wenut/robot wenut) that they bring out every abyss and ayaka cant counter them bc massive cryo resist/cant break the cryo shield/she burst animation is as long as their dpsable window and since you don't know where they're gonna pop up precasting isn't an option ayaka dosent work bc hoyo dosent want her to work she is still strong we just need an abyss without a million cryo resists and shell be great (for that abyss) but thats also the issue with her its too easy to make her not work people like to talk about how nilou is niche since she can only use hydro and dendro but she can perform well in almost any scenario while someone like venti can be slotted almost anywhere but is situation niche that you have to wait for hoyo to stop shitting on him from him to work and ayake gets to be situation and team niche so thats fun for her
I agree with the analysis generally. Ayaka is still great when she's great (when enemies can be frozen), but situationally, that's not often in the Abyss. Freeze is just not in a great place right now in the Abyss compared to vape, hyper bloom, and health drain teams, heck... even plunge teams, all do more damage now with high Abyss floors. We have way more ways to do damage these days in Genshin and Ayaka freeze just isn't the most damage-dealing team, especially at lower investment. Ayaka really needs teammates like Kazuha, Mona, Kokomi, Roasari, Shenhe, etc. to really shine. She is like Venti - he's still busted OP when the enemies can be sucked up into his vortex - try him in the overworld and you realize he's the game's easy mode. But the Abyss is more or less designed (at high floors) to be "un-Venti-able", so you can't just walk in, use his burst and laugh. Hoyo wants you to pull for new characters, so they shift the META around newer characters, and Ayaka has been in the game since day 1 (although not playable until 1.6) and was designed for year 1 and year 2 content IMO. But Year 3 and 4 content IMO is just not meant to be done with Ayaka. The prevalence of element checks - lots of cryo shields now - in the Abyss are sort of the end of Ayaka's prevalence because she has no answer for them... maybe in Natlan she'll be good again.
When I first started in Genshin, I knew I wanted Ayaka. So, I got her, and then Sumeru came out a few patches after that, which was my first time reaching floor 11-3 to 12-1. I tried hard to make her work. I mean, afterall, everyone's veteran advice for newer players was, and still is, focus on your first two teams. However, one of my teams wasn't in the condition it needed to be, and the Sumeru abyss did not like Ayaka at all unless she was in optimal condition. Eventually I would get Alhaitham, and the rest would be history as I finally could 36* the abyss, but not with my first ever limited 5*. All of that said, downgrading her into a driver role is where I felt some peace with her and could 36* the abyss with her. I know people say hyperbloom can work without a dedicated DPS or even a 4th member, but I haven't been able to produce that myself. I put her in a hyperbloom+freeze team since the funny "fridge" mechanic still works, even on bosses, and adding a character like Furina over Xingqiu also lets you buff Ayaka's damage too. This is unironically my favorite way to play her in the abyss. It's rather stress-free. There's also a hypercarry version I like to toy around with, but Coppelia/Coppelius makes that difficult to get a clear run. Basically replacing the hydro for Bennett, cryo-infuse Kazuha's burst, Layla for protection and tenacity, and unga bunga. Ayaka might have a place in Imaginarium Theator though. I also have a feeling Natlan won't present an Ayaka buff, but Snezhnaya might. I mean, it's the land of cryo.
Wrio definitely didn’t overthrow ayaka. He averages 10k less dps than ayaka. He’s just more flexible but his rev melt and freeze teams are honestly scuffed. Also wrio is pretty locked into ST.
here's to hoping that, with the release of snezhnaya, freeze teams make a comeback. it's my favorite reaction, and cryo is my favorite element, but abyss has a habit of checking all my best characters and go-to teams so I don't get to bring them to the end game like I always dreamed of :( if they do make a comeback then I think all the ayaka fans will be very happy lol (Kaeya was my first main, followed soon after by Wrio, my first ever 5*. I genuinely like Qiqi, Chongyun is one of my go-to characters especially w/ Kaeya, and Layla is my go-to shielder (sorry Thoma). I seriously cannot overstate how much I love cryo and how much of a complete pain in the neck enemies with cryo shields are for me to get over LMAO)
Its not ayaka, its cryo reaction freez. Its either way to overturned or bad if you can't freeze. And you cant melt with her And also because her burst is doo doo and never hits
That's not the point of this topic but anyways, ofc yes she's great btw, in my personal top dpses she comes in top 6 after the big 3,she's definitely in elite 3 alongside Tao,Navia. She's insane at her playground that is Freeze,will remain forever as that. All that aside ,am not an Ayaka main or even part of my favs but will say that she's cute<3
no disrespect but this video is wrong the reason ayaka isn't used entirely because freeze has been good in past 4 cycle of abyss in abyss where u can freeze ayaka is good her dmg definitely hasn't fallen off and essentially in the spot that nilou is in where she great when aybss allows her to be also theory crafting was around during 2.0 and she wasn't considered mediocre on release as of 4.0 wrio isn't even that good either mostly due to the icewind suite being in every aybss since the start of 4.0 a boss with 70% cyro res
Ayaka is still really strong in the right content. She suffers from the Venti problem. Both sides of the current abyss have heavily cryo resistant enemies. Thats including the Fatui operatives. Once the operatives and the Cappelia/Coppellous rotate out of the abyss she'll be good again.
no dps has actually fallen from grace. their clear time or dmg in any current spiral abyss doesn't change their overall powerlevels. eg yoimiya, Navia, hu tao, ayaka etc
