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Hey guys, we're Ash & Michael and we are two brothers from Adelaide, South Australia. Our aim is to showcase all that the world of General Aviation has to offer and all the amazing adventures and experiences that come with having a Pilot Licence!
Thats actually amazing. Because there's lots of debris in the air that damage planes engines. And seeing its got hours on it and it has no dents is just amazing
I have a 1974 Mooney M20F. IO-360 engine (200 HP) with a 9.5 gph burn and closer to 155 knots. I weighed the value/performance of Piper Archer/Arrows against Mooney M20F/J and found better value although I love the simplicity and ease of the Archer which I fly from time to time.
Once I retire, I will be interested in buying a 6, hopefully a 300 hp. Had to give up flying so the kids could go to college but that is nearly over. Like Piper low wing aircraft as they are seemer harder to stall than the Cessnas 150, 152. 172. And the 6's apparently cheaper than the more popular Chessnas.
I'd think about getting a 172 SP, with plenty of power to get up and out of short strips, that is if I liked a 172's handling--I don't. I really like the older (and newer) Cessna 210's. I'm thinking about the distance between cities in Australia. I flew one corporately for an agricultural company in the midwest US. The earlier ones are more a 4 + 2 cabin but their weight hauling capability is legendary. I've flown newer turbo models routinely out of 1700' (530m) strips. On the other hand, older 210s are, well, old and Oz is a long way from the parts source in Wichita, KS USA
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At first I thought the Piper Saratoga was a Piper Arrow? I had only been up in a Piper Arrow, only once. It felt like a Cadillac. Compared to the Piper Cherokee 140 & 180's. My dad and I both, flew. I learned with dad learning. He was taking pilot lessons. I got to sit in the backseat. And then I got to take some, Flying Lessons, myself. With my dad's instructor. Dad paid for, for me. Unfortunately my parents marriage fell apart. Dad would move away. So would we. I never flew a civilian aircraft again. And I loved it. I wanted to join the Air Force. But found I did not qualified to become a, jet fighter pilot. I said that's okay. I'll fly anything. They said no. As I did not have a college degree. And that was a prerequisite. So I did not enlist. I just continued on in radio stations and recording studios. And then purchased myself a motorcycle. So I could bank around turns. And go writing those mountain roads in the, Shenandoah, Allegheny, Blue Ridge Pkwy., Algonquin, Poconos, mountain roads. Almost like flying a plane. Instant death if you miss a turn. As you would fall between 1500 and 4000+ feet. And I made it a point, not to do that. While finding out first hand. Park rangers run radar in the mountains. Whoops. Not good doing 75 in a 35 zone. In my much younger years. That was counterproductive to do. But what fun! I was Hanging Off. Some people will know what that means. My knee was, nearly scraping the ground. To offset the center of balance on turns. The closest I would ever get to flying. I miss flying. I was a much better pilot than dad. But I never got my pilots license. Oh but wait. In a Happenstance, opportunity. About 23 years ago. I was able to hop in the cockpit. Of the just entering, service. Lockheed's, F-22 Raptor. And took it for a flight. Not having flown in about 35 years. I just flew that plane. How is that possible? What kind of bullshit am I spewing forth? I'm not. It's true. I was hired on as a freelance video camera operator at the U.S. Air Force Association Conventions. And I had been observing, US Military Fighter Pilots. Checking out this new F-22 Raptor. Just entering service. These guys were flying F-14's, 15s, 16s. They weren't Navy so no F-18's. I guess? But I digress. So at the end of the day of, the Convention. I asked the, Boeing/Lockheed guy. If I could try that F-22 out? He said sure. Have you flown the F-14's, 15s or 16s? He asked. I said nope. Never, ever. Only a Piper Cherokee 140. About 35 years ago. He said okey-dokey get in. So with minimal prep. I just started flying this F-22, Boeing, $12 million simulator. And it was Awesome! Beyond awesome! Apparently I did a good job. And didn't know I was being, observed. By five, US Military Fighter Pilots. And they all asked me. Had I been flying the F-14's, 15s or 16s? I was rather dumbfounded by their inquiry. I said nope. Never. This was a first try for me in, 35 or so years. And they asked me why I didn't join the Air Force? I told them. I tried all 4 branches of our US Military. They didn't want to let me fly. I didn't have a college degree. They in turn told me I had missed my calling. I said no. I did not. But the US Military missed out on a good pilot. They agreed with me. We all shook hands and went on our separate ways. It was an incredible thrill. To just get in the cockpit of a F-22. Much alone, and attempt to fly it. I only had some basic engineering skills. And whatever I could remember from a Piper Cherokee 140 from 35 years earlier. But in turn it also destroyed me. I cannot play any video games. I could not play any arcade. Microsoft Flight Simulator is, beyond a child's joke. Compared to the cockpit of the F-22 Raptor.. Nothing compares. I mean how am I supposed to play,, Fighter Jet. With the stupid Chinese made, $50 joystick? How insulting! Are they kidding? Supposed to prepare you to fly a, F-22? I think not. No. You learn how to play video games with the joystick. It truly, is not like flying, an, Official Military Simulator. I meet you are in that cockpit. That is the latest, state-of-the-art, most recent release, Cockpit. What was kind of fascinating. The plane was designed and built by Lockheed. But this was a Boeing Simulator. Because Boeing had just created this All Glass, upgraded, cockpit. Which the Lockheed F-22 Raptor. Will be introduced with the new Boeing, cockpit. Meaning that the Lockheed designed, cockpit. Was not, All Glass. But that still contained, some steam gauge items in the original, F-22, cockpit. I guess? And entered US Military service with the Boeing cockpit. And stuff like that just blows my mind. Talk about state-of-the-art. That's state-of-the-art, civilians weren't exactly privy to. And generally not. That was beyond state-of-the-art. It was just being introduced. No US military fighter pilots had flown one of these babies yet. They were that new and state-of-the-art. As state-of-the-art can get. I mean that is some wild stuff. It was an incredible thrill and honor. To have gotten 10 minutes time in one. And to fly a brief simple attack mission. Of targets on the ground. In this simulation. But no less a thrill. Even though it didn't exactly really fly. It was the full-blown cockpit. And that's a much different feel. Then sitting in your bedroom. With a joystick. In other words. It does not compare. It's sort of like the difference between an ice cream cone. And the entire cow, it came from. They don't even look similar. One does not Mooo. And melts. While the other one is standing in its own, cow pie of feces. It's that kind of difference. Between a toy joystick and a F-22 cockpit. Now how am I supposed to play any video games ever again? I can't. It seems so trifle, stupid. Along with my toy, joystick. The plastic Taiwanese variety. And not Jewish-American apple pie. You get the idea. As after you have sampled the original and the best. Where does that leave one? In the dust. Is, an understatement. And I've never touched a videogame, since. How can I? Total joke. RemyRAD
I love this bird. So much so, that I sold my Skylane and bought one over 20 years ago. It’s a great hauler, an excellent back country plane, and it’s fun to watch crowds form when I land and begin unloading 7 whitewater kayaks out of it. If you pull the back 2 rows of seats for a camping trip, you can stretch out sleeping bags and spend the night inside. I fly in and out of dirt strips in Idaho, Montana and Washington, and as long as you calc for density altitude, the naturally aspirated IO520 does the job just fine. It hauls full size coolers, bicycles, and all the camping gear you would ever need. The forward baggage compartment is a joy for, and unique to this model. It’s stable in chop, and is a great IFR platform, as the added length provides great tailfeather authority. Other than a Cherokee Six, there is no other bird as capable, comfortable, or dependable. One flight and you’ll be hooked.
MEIR here but exploring buying my first aircraft - I often fly a Cirrus but find them too overpriced so considering Cherokees - Are there many 235's in good knick around given their age?
There are a few that have been fully restored. As long as the engine is in good condition and no corrosion in the airframe, you can’t go wrong. Good, stable IFR platform once you add in some nice reliable (Garmin) avionics and autopilot
I've flown the Arrow II, III and IV and loved them all. They were my first complex and I took most of my instrument, commercial and CFI training in them. Good solid machines all.
Yeah, cheapest for a reason - called "flying coffins" by the old timers because they are grossly underpowered and can not maneuver on a single engine especially, on take off.
I had a 1979 T tail Lance in the 1990’s. It was my first complex airplane. As a “kid” in the 90’s, this airplane felt like an airliner compared to anything else I’d flown. I loved that plane. Mine had the avocado green velvet interior with green stripes on white. Not the prettiest color scheme. I loved the amount of room inside. It’s a wide airframe so no rubbing shoulders. That 6cyl Lycoming IO-540 was as smooth as an electric motor compared to a 4cyl. I had the two blade prop which looked like paddles. In turbulence, she would yaw back and forth like crazy. If ATC called out traffic at 12 o’clock I’d automatically be scanning from 10 to 2. One advantage of the T tail was that you could make power changes without a huge change in pitch. This was nice in IFR. With just one or two people sitting in the front seats I had to keep a 50# sand bag on the baggage compartment for CG. One thing for certain, however, you absolutely did not want to load this aircraft aft CG. Things got real ugly then. I have great memories of that airplane.
just a quickie about stock footage. You might want to replace those Arrows with at least a Saratoga or some kind of Lance. But overall nice assessment. These were my first "complex" airplane in training back in the day. I wish they had more span on the horizontal and a cowl more like the Turbo Arrows - prolly 5 kts and better field performance. And it is known that anything over 200-210hp can benefit form the extra blade area of a 3 blade, which also help field performance - not so much in cruise. Cheers mate!
Here's a reason - T-tails are conducive to icing in GA icing since the top of the tail may be inaccessible without a ladder (which causes dangers of its own in icy conditions). Since most GA aircraft don't fly out of international airports and thus likely the pilot has to clean the ice and snow off his flight surfaces himself, it's easy to "overlook" the elevators when cleaning the plane. Oh, and on an unrelated note: sight gauges are pretty useless once the plane starts its roll. Just sayin'....
I have over 2000 hours flying a T tailed Lance. Used it for business and pleasure. Only did a balloon takeoff once, and that was the first one. Then a little common sense flying skills took over, and it was never a problem again. Gap seals on the elevator put the handling almost to that of a straight tail. Like the Six, this plane was a truck. If you could close the doors, it would fly. My employer asked me what plane would I recommend for the company. After I saw a Piper ad with a spinet piano in the back and the men that loaded it, I said this is the one. Home was the North East of the USA. This was a great weather platform which was tested a lot over 9 years. We carried a lot of cargo in the Lance. Having the horizontal stabilizer way up high, made it so much easier backing up to the cargo doors.
The T-tailed plane seems more complex than it needed to be since cabling for the stabilizer had to go up the tail and then they had to add external support wires on the outside which just looks ugly on a plane.
