The most OVERPOWERED Piper Cherokee ever! | Walkaround & Flight 

Flew the 235 for years in the 1970’s….best aircraft ever! Fast….and the engine had a great mellow sound as you accelerated down the runway.

This is the highest video quality airplane informational video I've seen on RU-vid, thank goodness. You're really making me want a 235!

I flew a 400 hp Cherokee, it was called a Seneca.

Great content thanks for sharing. I have a 1965 235 and just love it, they are an amazing aircraft to fly. I actually did my CSU Endorsement with you guys and can highly recommend the team’s professionalism and knowledge, if anyone’s think of upgrading! Keep the content coming we don’t get enough Oz content 👏

Great Job!!!! So miss my piper PA-28-161 and general aviation flying days. Thanks for the fond memories of flying this great airplane!!! Well designed, engineered, manufactured and marketed.

Awesome video! Highly informative. I really enjoyed flying that one, beautifully kept aircraft.

Back when I was flying I would have loved to fly a 235. Outstanding aircraft.

I grew up near vero beach. One time, my elementary school class took a field trip to the Piper factory in Vero Beach Fla . It was a great trip for us kids. This was around 1968.

Sharp looking 235. Great content

I used to own a 1971 PA-28-140D with only a 160HP upgrade. I also had a PA-32-260 but had the opportunity to fly my friend’s Dakota many times. Great airplane.

My Dad had a 64 235 and it gave me some very good memories.

I had one. N57346. Great airplane.

Have over 100 hours in the 235, loved flying it very stable. 👍🙏🦅😎🇺🇸

😎👍 You fly like we do! 🇬🇧 Nice landing! I'm more of a Cessna guy but I always feel more stable in a PA28 and it's a bit like moving into a much bigger aeroplane.

Awesome video! It's mind-boggling how many variations of the Cherokee/PA-28 have been build lol. I regularly fly the Archer II and like it a lot but at the end of the day I prefer the high wing Cessnas for their better visibility. There is also a good learning moment here! At 12:27 you say you'll have to remind yourself that the electric trim isn't working yet during the first approach it looks like you're trying to trim exclusively using the switch out of habit. I'm sure there was a note about it somewhere but it's a great reminder to put a sticker or something else on an INOP switch that you'll notice if you touch it.

Nice video. Makes me miss my flying days, long past.

We had a 1969 235C with the field upgrade to bring it up to 250 hp. I loved that aircraft.

This is my first time on here and I’m looking forward to seeing more flights in the next one you do.

250 hp upgrade with vortex generators and stol tips, magic and highly underrated STOL machine

Nice video. Very thorough.

Lucky to have many hours in a Dakota. Great airplane!

I’ve flown the Pathfinder 235 with the constant speed prop and with the outboard and inboard fuel and with 3 passengers on a cool day she got off very well at a best rate of climb at 85 mph at 1000 fpm

3:15 The lack of wash out doesn't mean the rectangular wing platform (Hershey bar) is more likely to drop in Wing. The idea is inboard wing stalls first giving feel impending stall while ailerons in theory are still effective, as outboard wing is lower angle of attack with the wing twist. It does not prevent outboard wing from stalling. What causes a wing drop in stalls is uncoordinated flight (skid or slip). Skid is worse than slip, long explanation for another time. ALSO aileron in a stall will tend to cause increase stalled wing AOA. Say L wing drops (stalls) you add R roll to raise L wing. Down aileron L wing on increases AOA and increases drag which makes it drop and yawn more. Stall recovery should be neutral aileron and RUDDER. Again if for example left wing dtops you bank right, the left wing aileron goes down to increase lift. However it is stalled and down aileron increases AOA and stall and increases drag causing yawn. Wing washout ia sound but has traded offs and does not make the plane less likely to stall. Does washout aid in having roll control with ailerons in stall better?? Marginal or slightly better in some situations. Best to not use aileron at all, rudder only. A twist or washout wing does have more drag in cruise. Thus is why Hershey Bar wings still work well even if advanced seat of pants stall warning is less, stall is pretty benign and gives a competent pilot enough advanced warning and control (but don't use ailerons). Lower nose use rudder as required and don't over control. Bottom line maintain flying speed above stall with sufficient margin.

I just like the view and clearance of my old 182 upper wings

VERY GOOD SAMUEL I LIKE SO MUCH FROM BRAZIL PILOT AND GOOD LUCK

P-28 lineage also includes the cherokee 6/ 300 hp., wonderful airplane but the older models had the glide ratio of manhole cover

I worked on them a long time. Phrase of the day was, "If you can get it in, it'll carry it'!

O-540s are great motors.

The crankshaft and both the 5th and 6th order vibration frequency counterweights are the exactly the same as on the 0-540 A4D5 250hp version, so just changing over the pistons of the 0-540 B4B5 to those used in the A4D5 will automatically raise the power to 250hp, with a compression increase from 7.3:1 to 8.5:1. Add a 3 angle valve seat modification to the valve seats, and a 30 degree cut-back to the valves themselves will see a further and even more substantial jump in power to not so very far short of the 300hp mark, on high octane fuel, with the early fixed pitch prop version, as the extra power will turn the same fixed pitch prop to around 2,700rpm on full take-off power at sea level, instead of just 2,575rpm. More rpms equals more power equals more thrust.

Great Video. I took a flying lesson out of Murray bridge back in 2004. I was visiting Australia and had started my flight training in USA at Penn Yan Flying Club. Flying out of Murray Bridge was a bit different for Penn Yan. Dirt strips, no weather station on the field, no signs at the threshold of the runway with the elevation, and runway numbers. Don't use the carb heat on the ground with all the dust in the air, and enjoy the so many more VFR days in dry South Australia!

First production year was 61, 1960 was test models. Would love to have a 235, our 160 is good but I'm sure it is a truck with that power

The overhead trim handle is much better than the on-floor wheel. Having flown both, the floor one is much harder to see to set trim, especially if you have a passenger. Also the Vernier style throttle/prop/mixture is easier to make fine adjustments and in general more precise. I wish Piper never switched. 1963 PA-28-180, would like the extra HP and the CS but in general wouldn't trade it for anything!

Good morning to all from SE Louisiana 14 Dec 21.

Just bought a Piper Dakota 235 and woulD love it if you took us all around basic operation from takeoff to landing IN DETAIL, IT IS A BIT DIFFERENT FROM MY CHEROKEE 140.

Makes a great glider towplane.....able to do double and sometimes triple tows....

Piper needed to make this a retractable. I have a Cherokee Arrow 200. Would have loved to drop a 235 in mine.

I have owned a 71 Cherokee 140 since 1989. It's wing is same type as the P-51; undercambered.

Interesting video, thanks. The majority of my hours (I'd say about 80%) are on PA28 Archers and Warriors. Recently checked out on a 182 and it really is a day and night difference performance wise. What I found very surprising is that you said the 235 consumes about 65l/h, while the 182R is happy with about 50. Where does that difference come from? The Piper doesn't look any more inefficient than the 182.

I’m flying a Piper Dakota right now with an O-540 and constant speed prop. Love the extra power and speed! It’s a great airplane.

MEIR here but exploring buying my first aircraft - I often fly a Cirrus but find them too overpriced so considering Cherokees - Are there many 235's in good knick around given their age?

Do any owners obtain modified wings with the washout or higher aspect Ratio? I fly RC, any of my planes that behave anywhere near a full size aircraft we call, Under Powered Dogs.

It was weird to see the gopro and handheld video desync a bit during the preflight, lol. I was like, wait whats going on?!

Flew a 235 a few times. Great aircraft. 500' takeoff roll not uncommon.

Probably the best instrument platform I’ve ever flown. Great airplane but as I’ve aged I find climbing across seats to get into the pilot’s seat increasingly uncomfortable. 182 for me now but that is my only problem with the 235.

This is the kind of power which SHOULD be standard, not the under powered standard engines in GA and 135 mph is not that fast either; manufacturers have short changed buyers on power for decades and getting away with it based on buyers being what's known in the industry as "cheap dates", lol.

I bet the left turning tendency is fun!

This should be an upgrade kit !

What's the difference between a Directional Gyro and a Gyro COMPASS?

Are those anti-ice boots or just black vinyl paint protection?

What about the Comanche 400 beast?

The last time I was in a Cherokee 4 was back in 1980..flying from takotna ak to McGrath ak

what year did they switch the trip tab location on the 235?

I know nothing about Cherokees and I've only watched a couple minutes of the video but wouldn't this aircraft benefit from a 3-blade prop?

I have a 235 Pathfinder Special with 260 hp.

Carry a little more power in and you can grease it on

No more overpowered than a 182.

Very good flying, but what I really noticed were the terrible ergonomics - you had to keep bending and twisting all over the place to see the various gauge readings. 60s airplane though innit?

Fuel pump off during climb?

66L/hr? That’s more than double what a typical 100mph Warrior uses. >Two times the gas for 30% more speed seems kinda wasteful.

When did cherokees stop having retractable gear?

Didnt see a full free and correct before entering runway. Lol

Aboriginal stripe colors?

Checking the mags at 1700 RPM ?

You said fuel consumption is 66.4 liters per hour at what is 163.4 mph. That's not even ten miles per gallon. You said its not to bad. Compared to what ? Van's has a beautiful four place aircraft that gets twice the fuel mileage, and is faster.

It’s called a Dakota in later times no big deal

I like Piper aircraft but I HATE their manual flaps.

What's with the color grading in the video? At 7:55 it seems like it was finally color graded for one second and then it goes back to raw... It's the first video of yours that I have seen, but just reminding that raw footage needs to be color graded. Good video otherwise!

I think the 235 was better than the C-182 by far. Especially with the long range tanks.

Forgot fuel to full-rich before landing ;D

"It moved about a bee's dick" hahaha

I am curious. Where does all of the money for all of this come from? 66 liters an hour here in the USA is over 100$ per hour all to travel say 150 miles, then add all of the other costs and it just screams...why? In other words, how do you justify this expense?

How is 235hp not an ordinary Cherokee? Piper made thousands of them.

There were times I found it hard to understand you with the music so loud. Did just about all of my training, SMEL instrument, in Pipers. Find them a much better ride in rough air.

235 -- 380hp

The Cherokee 235 is not the most powerful Piper Cherokee. The Piper Cherokee Six has up to 300 horsepower.

This is a perfect example of what not to do to an airplane put an ugly paint job on it makes it harder to sell and then it makes you think what are the kind of crappy work might’ve been done to the airplane it makes you wander

Overpowered? Not at all. It's a load lifter, not a high speed cruiser.

Okay I wanted to watch this but your background music is awful I won't watch it with that in the background

Over powered, I think no, not anymore than a 235-182 C

Get rid of that annoying music & you'll have a nice video. As with any vehicle> turn off that damn stereo & pay attention my instructors would say. Same here.

A video about an "overpowered" engine that doesn't show the video of the engine. wth

Be better if used English instead of Frenchy metric measurements

This plane is NOT overpowered. Your title is nothing more than click bait.

trotzdem haste du nur wenig Zuladung..mit dem Motor noch weniger..2 Personen,Tanks voll,,das wars dann...