@@HAL2001 Cool,I'am trying to resist buying a vintage 100 watt Supergroup,and if this is a little more versatile I think I will get one.Thanks for the info.
Fantastic little amps. I swapped out the speaker on mine for the G12H 30w 75hrtz 16ohm heritage model that he used on the 13 and End tours and it’s brilliant
@@HollisAudioLabs how do you find the Goodmans compare to the Anniversary model? I have anniversary in my Iommi 4x12 cabs and I’ve always thought they sounded very close
Sounds good. I have an LA212 cab with 12M GB’s I swapped out with Goodman 12PG with 1208 cone. Sounds heavy and raw. The GB’s so much smoother I have to get used to the 12PG.
Yes, very easy upgrade for the original owners to do. The full production system will have the ADSP21569 dspBlok installed. This also applies to the 4 AKM DAC boards that can be upgraded from the AK4493S to AK4499EX version.
Could not find a s/n, but Gibson found it as a '64 SG Special. Glad the channel has helped. The pickups are John Birch reworked P90 and Suoerflux pickups. JayDee Custom Guitars make original style JB pickups.
Richard was the 1st pedal you put on and off the TB? You turned 3 pedals on after, which were they? You only mentioned 2 other pedals in the description
The first pedal was the treble booster, then turned off. The second pedal was the EQD Life Metal pedal with both the boost and Rat sides that are separate switches. The third pedal is a SUNN-T preamp pedal that emulates the SUNN Model T preamp to drive the Laney LA-Studio amp.
Richard, does that pedal have some type of modulation? The open e string rings out with movement like some sort of flanging mod. Whats ur take on that?
They are eBay 1x12's. The original Laney cabs were deeper than the Marshall cabs I have. A bit more internal volume for mids and lows with these like the original cabs.
Ah i see. Thanks. Did moritz build you the guitar and source the pickups from jaydee guitars or did you send them an sg you already had for them to mod? Im trying to piece together info from what you said in this and other vids. Love the sound on this vid
@@JeanPauldeBoissezon-ug4br Moritz Guitars built the Monkey SG. I purchased the pickups from JayDee Custom Guitars in the UK. I sent them to Moritz Guitars as the original version of this guitar that he built for Tony is used in some of the 13 recordings and the CSI video were the JD Old Boy style pickup set.
In the original amps the pedal is based upon, for the Laney Supergroup MKI, the C2=C5=250pf and for the SUNN Model T C2=C5=270pF, not 220pF. The PI cap for the Supergroup MKI C13=47pf and for the Model T C13=270pf. Also for the Supergroup MKI mode both channels would have C3/R6 installed. As is. the gain of the Treble channel does not match the Bass channel. This is based off my Laney Supergroup MKI I have and repaired and an original SUNN Model T schematic. These may have been decisions of the pedal designer, but not per the original designs.
Hi again i noticed you have a monkey sg and a 66 sg. How would you compare / contrast the pickups on each? Does the monkey have the same p90s as the ones gibson puts in its iommi artist collection that theyre selling now? I thought ur tone on the 66 into the laney with the naga viper sounded great
The Beta 402 is 33in x 25in. They only sound thin if you are running to much treble. Adding the Beta 205 gives it a very well defined bottom for down tuning. The SUNN Fender Era model 412 cab maybe better, but more expensive and not really what I wanted.
I like this video and this channel, Richard. Because of the tuning and low output pickups Tony was always trying to get brightness and articulation. Around '73 or '74 he was likely using JBL D-120F's instead of Goodman's or Fanes or even Celestions that came stock in the Laney cabs. If you can find them you could even try the Laney-spec Celestion T-1976's that had similar brightness, headroom and were were even more aggressive than the JBL. He would have used these right up until the end of the Ozzy era. Then it was KT-88 Marshalls and high wattage Celestions for H&H until 6L6 based 300W Boogie Coliseums entered the picture for Mob Rules. An all-maple Birch guitar would help articulation even further.
I have a John Birch J1 with a JB Biflux neck and JB Magnum bridge pickups. It is very bright in comparison to the Mahogany SG. It weighs a ton! I know Tony's J1 had his interchangable pickup system, so never seen the pickups in use, but the John Birch SG had the Magnum X bridge I have on my Epiphone SG Goth. Have seen both a JB Magnum and Hyperflux in the bridge position of the JB SG. Lots of changes over the years. I have a more modern JBL K120 in a Laney 1x12 that is from the '70s, where the D120F was late '60s and Fender favorites. There is a video of it on the channel.
@@HollisAudioLabs I like those pickups. For Iommi inspired tones I have a JayDee single coil based on the Monkey pickup in a '68 SG Special with a Leo Quan bridge. Also, a JayDee double coil humbucker based on the Birch maple cross guitar in a black 2022 SG Special with a Schaller fine tuner bridge. The new Gibson's are built fine but the wood isn't quite right. It's not dried out fully. For that sound I'll go Into a '73 Klipp with matching 4x12 Laney cab with a quad of Goodmans or JBL D-120f's or even T1976's. I have the early Sabbath tone on deck. The Laney is critical for that
@@phildemetro A JBL Orange Frame D120F with the metal 4in dustcap just arrived. Will get out the JB J1 with the JB Magnum pickup in the bridge and give it a try. The treble booster section of the Sabotage kit is very interesting with the BC550A transistor, so I have just that section of the board setup to try with a Fender Twin Reverb preamp pedal I designed. Will see what happens.
Very interesting, Richard! I have 4 of those orange frame 120f's loaded into an old Hiwatt SE 4122 cabinet. It's a very pronounced difference in projection than, say, my Klipp cabinet with Goodmans Audiom 12-P's or another Hiwatt SE4123F cab with Celestion T1976's. The JBL's are LOUD, clean, bright, efficient. A post '73 Iommi tone. I hear it on the SBS track. The Laney Spec Celestion T1976's are very aggressive in the mids. Paired with my '73 Laney with the Klipp channel on and a '68 SG Special with JD single coil it, actually sounds evil - whatever that means but it does. I don't hear the T1976's in Sabbath, personally. I do hear the Goodmans though.. think "LIve at last" tone. It might be my fav early era Iommi tone. I can get that easily simply by turning the amp up to 10. Sabotage sounds like a humbucker guitar - likely your JB-1. I don't hear a Twin on Sabotage. My guess is a SuperGroup, JB-1, and JBL's were used. Technical Ecstasy and onward are JBL's for sure. Live with the Birch guitar tuned to E standard? Ouch! Bright and stiff. Lots of VOX amps on TE, no question. Reach out to Pete Cornish for info on Iommi for his custom 1982 pedal board. The new and excellent remastered/remixed version of Live Evil has the 300W Boogie Coliseum amps and the cornish pedalboard. with various MXR pedals, etc...
I was listening through phone at first, but plugged it into a roland kc 500 keyboard amp with a 15" real quick. Yess! Nice ! I bet its awesome feeling in the chest with . 4x12 and 15?! Sweet heaviness . Ive bee messing with floyd rose for a few weeks. This gets me back in the mood for hardtail dropped stuff ! Nice work! I mean fun!
Larry, glad the little DIY pedal inspired you to go back to some down tuning! It was great to get The Rex Theater and really setup a full Laney rig full tilt and let it do it's magic with UK power! It is addictive! Nick's video on doctornerve channel captures the magic of a few moments! :)
Is the silver label like the one on reverb.... right now... 68 4ohm imm looking/shopping for the dio/13.. sabbath tone... right now I got jaydee white boy pickups..... lol I'm getting a shipping quote...done
The Goodmans Silver Label 20W is probably from the Beatles VOX amps. The Goodmans small green label 25W 15 Ohm speakers are the early Tony sound. The Goodmans small red label 12P 50W 15 Ohm speakers are the next closest.
Also the Goodmans small green label 25 watt 15 Ohm speakers for Tony's tone have 2016 cone numbers printed on them in white. They date from '69-'71 for production.
@@HAL2001 I believe in this day and age, even most budget guitars are a 100 times better than when i started playing back in the 90s. As for setup, even the Epiphones I have bought always needed setup. Its a great deal for a P90 equipped guitar, even though most budget P90s are fairly weak. You can upgrade them if needed. I will look into these Fireflies and see if i can try one out.
