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Question says it’s got so much cushioning and it’s flat. You know like some shoes will have a curve in the front kind of a thing. How does it feel? Is it cause I’m sure it’s probably not flexible but I’m used to a zero drop shoot is really flexible I’m sure it’s not flexible and so do you still get ground field on that thing or not I was also thinking about the same thing about topo pursuit that I wondered how much how it runs as it runs smooth still and it’s your ground fill is it flexible at all but you know the mountain racer also has a high stack height like that but it’s not a zero drop shoot, so I was just kind of curious
The Topo Pursuit 2 is ever so slightly more flexible than the Altra Timp 5. Both have a rocker shape, but the Pursuit 2 has a more pronounced rocker shape, which in my experience offers a slightly smoother transition through toe off. From what I recall (It's been a minute since I ran in the Timp 5) both have similar ground feel and protection. I never felt that ground feel was lacking but I also still felt protected underfoot in both shoes. All that said if I had to choose one zero drop trail shoe, be the Topo Pursuit 2 as I found it to be more comfortable in the upper for my foot. Hope that helps!
I like the standard fit the best. I tried lone peaks on today and they fit little too wide. But have a 100 in December, starting in Luna then I’ll switch to either Salomon or I’ll get these lp7.
Great review! I’m on my third pair of summit unknown. Last pair went 750 mi before that felt flat. Lugs still were in good shape. No tears or holes in the upper. You can find them for under $70 now online. Great shoe!
Great run Chad, I'm going to borrow the parts of that I haven't ran yet. Love watching and recognizing the trail, something I could never have done 18 months ago. Oh, the Path Projects hoodie looks pretty nice. Their shorts and liners are the best I've tried. Good luck in Utah! Sounds like a great challenge!
Thank you so much! I was pleased with this route and it was fun to explore new areas on the east side of the reservoir that I hadn't previously ran, and connect it all together in a big epic loop!
@darrintaylor8653 I'll be staying an extra night after the race and then driving home. My whole family's coming out so my wife can drive the car if needed as well, and my parents and brother are coming as well. My brother will be pacing me the last part of the race and my parents will entertain the kiddos with games in the RV and jeeping 🙂 All my other races, I just drove home afterwards 😆
Such a joy watching this. My injury is starting to give some progress so I can explore all those trails. This video helped me on a deep level. God love you and yours my friend!!!
Love the toad, the goose family and the spider (web)… wish you a great race in the La Sal Mountains. Sure you did your homework man. Excited to see great footage afterwards. Have fun out there. Keep on
Awesome video! I enjoyed seeing that area again. I was a student at CSU for several years (a long time ago, ha) and lived in FC year-round. I loved hiking in the Horsetooth area and also in Poudre Canyon, such as Greyrock Trail. I'm still on the struggle bus with aging and chronic health issues but slowly making my way back to running. Thanks for the inspiration!
Yeah, Chad! What a great run! I love me a nice little LSD as well! 😂 the inversion layers with the dog was picture perfect! Great choice of trails for a 50k. It was good to see it all in your video after you mentioned it on our last Horsetooth run. A perfect last long run.
Beautiful run! I’ve just began exploring trails in central California, and plan to run my first ultra next year. I have some marathons planned, but can’t wait to hit the trails! Love your videos! Excellent content!
Thank you my friend! What Ultra are you eyeing? With a couple marathons under your belt, I think you'll do great! Running on the trails is such a fun experience and it's great to be able to explore all kinds of areas. Cheers!
@@SeeChadRun thx! I’ll try to run a starter 25k trail run as part of my training block for Big Sur Marathon next April. We have BLM land at an old army training base in our area that hold trail events. It’s not too technical, but descent elevation to help with upcoming Big Sur and San Francisco marathons🤙
Nice, beautiful area! I'm doing the same thing this Sunday in Dolly Sods, WV. Although 50k is my end goal and not prep for anything. I'm looking forward to it but I'm also anxious as it'll be the furthest I've ever run. I'll be very slow, but better slow than not doing it.
Chad I’m in awe. What an amazing video and textbook lesson for anyone serious about taking up trail running. Run stop walk hike and never miss a moment to appreciate your surroundings. Fantastic and thanks so much for sharing with us. Chad I told you recently that I’ll soon be launching my own RU-vid channel and it would be great if sometime I could call you via zoom for an interview, would that be something you’d be willing to do? If so then maybe we could swap emails and start to plan ?
That could be a lot of fun! I feel like there's a lot going on in my life but if timing works out, I'd be happy to be a featured! Of course, I'll share the video too ;-) My email can be found in the About/More section on my RU-vid Channel Page. You can also message me on Instagram/Facebook. Cheers!
Last week after a long tiring run, I just laid on the floor and let this massage roller go up and down the back side of my legs. I nearly fell asleep right there! Haha
Thank you my friend! I always appreciate you checking out my videos. It was energizing to say hi to all the hikers and have brief-fun conversations with them.
Awesome 😎 Glad you liked the video! I'll also run a 20 mile lollipop route from Coyote Ridge to part of Horsetooth and back. It's wonderful to have these trails so close to home.
Thanks for the video, and congrats on the finish! I'm going to attempt this one next month, and it'll be my first ultra. I'm not as ready as I'd like to be, but it'll be a learning experience- either I'll finish, or I'll gain some valuable insight for a 50k I'll be running in February. Either way, this is already a go-to area for me to hike, so it'll be a great time no matter what!
I ran the 33 miles simply because that was what the route ended up being based on what I wanted to run (what trails I wanted to explore) and because I wanted something longer than 20 miles, so why not a 50k+. Conveniently, as you mentioned it does break up the 100 miles into 3 parts, and this run simulated the middle part in my mind because I was already running on tired legs. I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
There is a small fee if parking in State Park, but I started at a city park and then ran in so I didn't have to pay anything. The two soft flasks are the HydraPak Ultra Speed 500ml. Thanks for checking out the video!
That was a beautiful run! While I’m a fan of the reviews, these runventures are easily my favourite. The Wadi shirt looks really good. I have a Patagonia Sun shirt that’s been seeing a lot of time on me lately. Great accessory! Question: with the BR pack seeing more time, any longer term thoughts on how it rates vs the Salomon?
I appreciate you and I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Overall, I like the Salomon ADV Skin packs more but find myself opting for the Black Diamond pack because I knew it would do well with the extra water in the back, it has the trekking pole sleeves which is simply convenient, and I can carry quite a bit more stuff when needed (which also makes it a great day pack).
@@SeeChadRun that makes perfect sense. My wife drinks a lot more than I do so I stitched an attachment point into the AdvSkin for a 1.5L bladder. There is actually a through point on the top of the shoulder (with only a tiny hole needing to be cut). As always, thanks for the inspiration, Chad!
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Prices probably pretty fair figuring I usually spend about $120 just for a pair of sandals to run in. I wish the stack was lower sometimes on trails of if I don’t feel the ground I’m going down or I roll an ankle or something so I think 28 and 33 is pretty high but that’s for me most people probably like even higher, good video.
Thank you! The stack doesn't feel as high as advertised. You can still feel the ground underfoot and receive good feedback too. Some have complained that it doesn't have enough protection, but I think it's a perfect balance between cushioning that I can run a long time in and underfoot feeling.
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Been wanting to buy a new daily trainer. My primary choice was Deviate Nitro 2, but since this DN3 came out I've been considering it but I think it's more suited for speed works now rather than daily trainers.
It would do fine, and perhaps better than other road shoes with a much smoother outsole. I've seen a couple gravel specific shoe releases including the Craft Xplor (review on my channel) and the Salomon DRX DEFY GRVL (I'm trying to get a pair for review). Hope that helps!
Thanks for the review. Just thought I'd share my experience. Coming from Olympus 4s this shoe is much tighter in the toe box because of the shallower profile so if you have wide feet go up a half size. This is exacerbated by the thick and long tongue reducing the volume in the shoe and making it even hotter to run in the summer heat. Also I do not feel the cushioning to be as good as in my Speedgoat 4s. BUT the vibram outsole is a winner and even with the cons listed previously this is still a pretty good shoe for comfort, performance and protection. Not sure it's a Speedgoat killer as others have said though. Just my thoughts and not so different from yours I think. Mine were 80 UK pounds in a sale and for that good value.
Do you know how they measure the stack height? Is that from the bottom of the lugs all the way to the Inso or is that just a cushioning I’m trying to see because sometimes they say one thing and I get it and it’s too high and I don’t feel right in itother times it’s include everything so just curious if you happen to know I guess that’s some 28 mm so that includes everything that’s not bad with a 6 mm low then that brings it down to 22 for ground field would be decent. just curious if you know.
It's been an outstanding shoe for me.. a lot of miles, backpacking, hiking, and even a 14'ner this season. Superior to my altra olympus in all categories. Bravo Topo.
I'm not a runner, I basically do lots of day hiking in Pennsylvania where it's pretty rocky. I've had a pair of Olympus 4s for quite a while now and they have been fantastic. I wanted that high stack for the rough terrain and the pointy rocks in the ground. However, I'm considering the Topo MTN Racer 3 instead to go away from zero drop and because they're a bit less expensive. I'm hoping I like the Topo shoes!
I love the Topo MTN Racer 3! It's a great trail runner and hiking shoe but know that it doesn't have a rock plate nor quite as much stack as the Olympus, so you'll likely feel the ground and rocks underfoot a little more. It's a more agile and lightweight shoe which I really appreciate as well!
@charliejg the Topo Ultraventure 3 might be a good option to consider and although I haven't personally ran in that shoe yet, I've heard great things from others about it. It also has a 5 mm drop but increased stack height 35 mm in the heel and 30 mm in the forefoot.
Love this Chad. Friends are just strangers you haven't met yet. You guys need to come visit us in the Canadian Rockies. Some amazing trails here. No snakes, just bears.
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I ran a 5 mile easy trail run and a hard 13.5 mile training run for The Rut race in Big Sky, MT. I had to return them. The medial post (ankle) dug in just under my ankle bones causing major chafing and bleeding. I also got a substantial blister in my pinky toe. I chalk the blister up to the shoes being “new” but the ankle rubbing ruined my world during the hard 13.5 mile run. Also, foam soles took a major beating during the aforementioned training run. The grip was phenomenal, as advertised, however if the foam doesn’t hold up for a decent amount of time, it’s all pointless. I wanted to love these shoes and hope my experiences aren’t common.
Sorry to hear that you had less than a stellar experience with the shoe. I hadn't heard of other's having any similar issues and certainly didn't experience it myself with the ankle rubbing. Even after my 50 mile trail race I didn't have any hotspots, rubbing, or blisters.
I love my Experience Flow. The Wild, in that same size is too small. Bummer! Altar has changed their sizing criteria, which I think is in response to TOPO’s .
Question if you get this, I need the new Tims just look at them at REI and they look nice. Does it have ground still high? That’s a lot higher than I usually have ever went and the rubber is usually when I get into a higher stack but I with a hard rubber, I lose all sense of the ground bad things happen
In my experience with this shoe, it still provides decent ground feel. Despite a slightly higher stack. I wouldn't consider it high stack by today's standards, but it is enough to provide good cushioning and protection without leaving you numb to the underfoot feeling of the trail.
Luckily you can train for the uphills and the downhills. Strength training will help in this regard as well. Chafing can be a real concern, but wearing the right clothing that works well for you helps a ton!
2 things why it doesn’t work for me. 5 mm drop hurts my hips and with stack height that high more tuned to trip on the trail. But I have friends who love the shoe, most liked vs 2 the best
Hi Chad! New subscriber. Thanks for this review. So I have a very narrow foot. Any idea about a good trail shoe for me? I’m currently in Brooks Cascadia and Hoka Mafate/Speedgoats. Thanks for great content. 😊
I'm glad you came across the channel and appreciate you for subscribing as well! I'll be reviewing the Hoka Speedgoat 6 and Brooks Catamount 3 & Caldera 7 hopefully in the very near future. I also have a narrow to average foot and have recently enjoyed the Salomon Genesis, VJ MAXx2, and surprisingly the Topo MTN Racer 3.
