This channel is dedicated to sound preaching and teaching of Scripture with the view of encouraging believers and strengthening their faith in God, Scripture, and orthodox Christian doctrines. This channel also provides teachings about and addresses Old Covenant legalism, mandatory and salvational Sabbath keeping, Sunday worship, and Seventh-day Adventism.
@@user-uz7tc7fx8u how can a day be a "false day of rest" and false day of worship, when we can rest on any day and can worship on any day? You seem to be too brainwashed with SDA erroneous teachings to think straight.
@ReverendThunder the rest that God gave us is not for every day because you can't rest an work same time so the rest is for the sabbath not for every day so give me the text wa say u must rest every day for the sabbath
@ReverendThunder u sound like pope u a talk all type garbage u just full bitters against sda church u leave the church because of disobedient because want to do u own ting for satan
Just because there's no law against smoking, obeying parents stealiing in the book of Genesis so christians can do whatever they want.Dont be funny guys
In Rom 14 paul is addressing matters of preference or choice not of principle.Sabbath observance is not a matter of preference that's reason it was written by God's own finger. Brother Elce please stop wasting our time.
Me as an adventist and reading the bible for myself understands that Satan is the scape goat. Why would satan be the goat that die to cleanse the temple?? Jesus died not Satan. Satan is still lives and awaiting his judgement. Just like the scape goat
Elce needs needs mercy.let's pray for him.He's fast becoming like a loose Canon.He reminds me of Dathan and korah in the time of Moses.Humbleness is a virtue,Hope he will comeback to his senses,nevertheless we still love him.
I was wondering all along about Elce's religious background.Thank you man for this interview.Just a word of advice to him.Knowledge of these terms Hermeneutics, exegesis is important but there are far more important methods you can use to understand difficult scriptural texts better.1. Dan 1v18-19.seek or desire the mercy on such things.2. Dan 8v15 seek for the truth moreso through prayer.Dan 9v20-22 speaks again of prayer and fasting.The problem that I see with most scholars is you tend to rely more on your theological prowess to understand deep things of God than simple methods as taught by Christ.Rarely these days would you find a theologian who say, I prayed and fasted for to understand,it's all about hermeneutics and exegesis.Guys let's humble ourselves before God and stop these counter accusations which will only help further division among Christians.If adventism or Ellen is wrong, the last day events will prove Christ's method alone for presenting truth will carry us through.As an Adventist myself I say we still love you Elce.
time to wake , Time no longer , Revel,10,6 --11 > the last > 4 anegls call for God people in Babylon world now , time to move away now Babylon is fallen , Revel,18, 4 , John 14,6,15, 1 Cori 3,11 ,12, 1 John 2, 6, mark,16,16, 1 John 3,4, Revel,21,27, Thess, 5 ,1 --3, war Ready, > Revel,12,12,17, Rev,14,, Revel,16,13,14, Revel,17, 13 ,14, new world order is come by force thre world ot follow the sunday law the mark of the beast, and take htr numper ,,,666,,,the world benefit numper, > Revel,14,9, 10 , John 14.6.15, cori 3,11,12, Roma 7,12, Gb, wake up now,
How does your understanding of the judgment make any sense if God has finished judging he's going to make sure there's no earthquakes or other people die that's ridiculous and stupid you're going to reduce God's plan down to your mind God's ways are above our ways beyond our ways the judgment is real character building is real didn't he say Satan or Lucifer was made perfect until iniquities found in him so obviously we have to be examined through and through before we can make it understanding the refiner's fire you want to lose your soul because you don't want to be judged
@@charnelallan7159 I did. I watched it in entirety. The usual drivel that reveals the confusing, any-convenient-position-holds nature of Adventism. His pitiful response video will not hinder the exposure of Adventism at all. In fact, it might even backfire on them, as they always do.
The interesting fact here is that at one point the world believed the world was flat and that one would fall off the face of the earth of they walked to far. In much the same way historical Christianity has many errors and have historically has blood on its hands, the beliefs held by them then were not correct that's why it's called "tradition." We know pedobaptism is not Biblical. And people who challenged baptizing infants, the Anabaptists (rebaptizers), against the MAJORITY held position on pedobaptism killed those people. So no the historical traditions of the faith have to be checked that's why the Protestant Reformation occurred, to "REFORM" the church. Ellen White is not the Spirit of prophecy! She was given the GIFT of prophecy which is the ability to understand and dispenser with the prophetic word. Her writings are bona fide. Don't listen to this false prophet. Compare her worms to the Word and see if she is not pointing people to the GREATER light and it's source, Jesus Christ. The Bible determines who is a true or prophet not disagreements with doctrine!
While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will neverremove all excuse for unbelief.All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God’s word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light.... DD 11.3 There is but one course for those to pursue who honestly desire to be freed from doubts. Instead of questioning and caviling concerning that which they do not understand, let them give heed to the light which already shines upon them, and they will receive greater light. Let them do every duty which has been made plain to their understanding, and they will be enabled to understand and perform those of which they are now in doubt. D
The truths most plainly revealed in the Bible have been involved in doubt and darkness by learned men, who, with a pretense of great wisdom, teach that the Scriptures have a mystical, a secret, spiritual meaning not apparent in the language employed. These men are false teachers. It was to such a class that Jesus declared: “Ye know not the Scriptures, neither the power of God.” Mark 12:24. The language of the Bible should be explained according to its obvious meaning, unless a symbol or figure is employed. Christ has given the promise: “If any man will do His will, he shall know of the doctrine.” John 7:17. If men would but take the Bible as it reads, if there were no false teachers to mislead and confuse their minds, a work would be accomplished that would make angels glad and that would bring into the fold of Christ thousands upon thousands who are now wandering in error
This is good information. Very informative, and educational. The presenter did his research and he found the truth. My heart goes out for those who are bound by the Late Elen G White Doctrine. For sure, her teaching was not from the true God of Israel- according to scriptures. This is what Apostle Paul said to the Galatians brethren. Gal 3:1 KJV) " O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? Galatians 3:1 KJV O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
It's going to be FUN deconstructing your LIES about Adventists in my new book. Coming soon! Backed by history, archaeology, ancient manuscripts, old calendars going back to ancient Babylon where they KEPT THE SABBATH, and much, much more.
Elce, why do you not use the trustworthy King James Bible, since the Adventist doctrines come directly from the study of the Old and New Testaments in the KJV and NOT, as some people claim, from Ellen White. The genealogy of the King James is traced directly back to the PRESERVED writings of the apostles, proven in the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls. The ESV is NOT the preserved Word of God. It has more than 33,000 words REMOVED from the New Testament alone, so no wonder you can't find the SDA doctrines in it. Please respond.
@@CharityGal as I said, I'm not the one doing it. It's RU-vid that's doing it. They do it for a variety of reasons, your choice of words, posting likes, hate speech, etc. so try to be careful of your wording and see if it changes.
@@ReverendThunder I am courteous and only post what is news to many. Also, please read and respond to my new comment left a few hours ago, regarding the Bible you read.
@@CharityGal ok, well after they vet your comments they'll publish them if there's no problem with them. Your comment about KJV Onlyism didn't deserve a response nor my time about that, so I don't see any reason to respond to it. You don't seem to be educated about Bible translations and transmission.
Thunder: In April 2024 the Earth Sabbath Movement posted a website to encourage everyone to "observe the Earth Sabbath - Give the Earth a rest one day a week, every week". Endorsed by Pope Francis, and is about CLIMATE CHANGE and showing our love for the Earth and DEMANDING changes to protect it. Do your research! Soon it will be narrowed down to Sunday. You should not mock Ellen White because it is HAPPENING.
Thunder should remember how the COVID-19 MANDATES controlled literally the entire world with lockdowns, schools, churches, businesses, beaches closed, people arrested for not wearing masks, the Covid shot mandated and threats from TV anchors that the "unvaxxed deserve DEATH." Those that refused including health care workers, military, teachers, pilots, etc. were FIRED or THREATENED. The so-called health experts boasted this was to TEST their authority over controlling the people using fear. Stay tuned. The Sunday Law is already being tested: In April 2024
Ellen White was RIGHT when she said "Protestants would reach across the gulf to clasp hands with the Roman power"...that happened in 1999 when the Lutherans and Catholics signed their Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification! Since then, more Protestants including Methodists, Anglicans and the World Communion of Reformed Churches endorsed it and the Pentecostal World Fellowship is enthused about joining. Also the Global Christian Forum, when they all conveyed messages in June 2024 near Geneva. SO EGW's prophecy is being fulfilled!
We are called to continue "coming out from among them" But SDA now refuses to go forward. Leave Xmas and easter pagan traditions. HS calls us " out of the boat" We are called all 10 not just the 4th commandment. Covetousness has now being called "good christian stewardship" Covetousness is an abomination what causes true Love to wax cold ( Math 24:12-15 ( KJV) is NOT dietary issue. Repeat of 1st temple. Teachers promise blessings for donations ( even if taken by force or deception. No HE will NOT bless this ) and many expect tax deductions too from athestic Gov lol. Teachers often may reap what they have NOT even sown. The so called twisted tithe. Math 27:52- 53 is pre- tribulation prior to Nero. Is confirmed Rev 14:4 "First Fruits" is Hebrew day of Passover High Annual Sabbath ( rest) and wkly rest ( Sabbath) not Frid of easter. . Also confirmed 1 Thes 4:14 "asleep come with HIM" V 15-17 we are the next event. REV 7:9. Great multide but note is from the 1993 yrs of the dead And Math 22 state "few chosen for wedding" - lukewarness is warned of. There are 3 events on each side of the cross ( like the Menorha ) MSM etc will NOT tell us the real ztruth. No UFO did NOT take a few. GOD is mercyful and senf the 2 witnesses Rev 11 and "those beheaded" Rev 20 also "caught up" Zeck 14 no reserection from Mt Olives V 5 "saints come with HIM- Ambasdors are already chosen at 3rd heaven Marriage Supper to reign with HIM for 1000 yrs. REV 21 new beginings is even the 8th event 1 403 830 4124 none of us has the whole Truth. ( and nothing but the Truth - Whyte even stared some of her writings only to best of understanding. At that given time. That was before 1848. And nation of Israel. SDA had a split too then. Noaha and Lot in contex both died after their event. Both need reserected. Enoch was "caught up" Elijiaha was "caught up" Eph 4 "to highest heaven" Some Messisnic Hebrew still believe in the rapture. But many are taking yp Ordox Judiasiam theology of only coming Kingdom. Note disciples had issue about Lazuruis. Was reserected on 4th day. Why Ordox Jews still believe spirit hovers for 3 days. Zeck 14:21 No more Canaanite KJV ( Egyptian/ Romanism) not twisted trader/ merchant occupation. Dont trough the baby out with the water. Personal matters but "when we shall do HIS will we shall know of the doctrine. If from GOD or from man. Covetousness is an abomination that causes true Love to wax cold ( Math 24:12-15 ) Messinic Hebrew groups and other keep the 7 day Hebrew rest ( Sabbath) too much theology. Not enough practcle. So called "Greek" etc. All head knowledge. Phycology is a form of Godliness that denies the POWER ( Dave Hunt - Seduction of Christisnity. Met Mr Hunt after i had left SDA college Lacombe Ab. Phycology had become a mandotory class in the SDA seminary ( like many other denominations - Beware ) hope/ pray / fast Great deception all around us. Call me 1 403 830 4124 Calgary Ab Cdn. Would really love to discuss this more with this young man. I am a grandfather now Jamician brother- inlaw too. In UK. Etc. Can trsvel Int. Pls call.
The narrator at 24 minutes into this tedious video claims that "Seventh-day Adventists are one of a HANDFUL of Protestant denominations that believe Christians should rest on the Sabbath." (emphasis added) WRONG! I have a list of at least 24 different Protestant denominations located all over the world that ALSO keep the seventh-day Sabbath, and many have for 2,000 years! Your video falls flat and fails to impress. It will be my very great joy to soon self-publish a book that will DESTROY ALL of the lies about Adventism with actual facts.
Judas was one of Jesus's disciples, he use to dip in rhe same dish,yet he betrayed Him with a kiss! No weapon that is formed against God's children shall prosper!
I am still going to SDA church. I met a friend retired professor pastor of th church who guided me against most the absurd adventist teaching. IJ Scape goat 2300 day Gospel in its spectrum, from Justification, atonement, etc. The church I attend 3/4 agree witht the prof who came and really opened our eyes. He recommended several Dr.s who came and emphasised more and more. We really have been blessed. And we are still in the communion of believers. Really dont know which church to attend if I ever relocate from this place. But , I thank God there are many who know and teach the truth as it is
Mercy people,the verse says one goats for the lord the other is for the scapegoat,,how on earth does this =both goats for the lord,,,its baffling how so many people just seem to lose their simple reasoning when it comes to verses they dont wanna believe,,its quite the phenomenon really
@@CarlosDiaz-mz6bn the Day of Atonement involved THREE ANIMALS for that SINGLE RITUAL of cleansing. Lev 16:5 KJV And he shall take of the congregation of the children of Israel two kids of the goats for a sin offering, and one ram for a burnt offering. Lev 16:30 KJV For on that day shall the priest make an atonement for you, to cleanse you, that ye may be clean from all your sins before the LORD.
@@ReverendThunder how about this,,Jesus and barrabas stand before pilot to be judged ,,Jesus is killed ,,barrabas set free,,do you think this is a coincidence??
@@CarlosDiaz-mz6bn how about that has nothing to do with the Day of Atonement ritual in Leviticus 16. Pilate wasn't a high priest, he didn't confess the sins of the people on Barabbas, Barabbas wasn't spotless, Barabbas wasn't an innocent victim that was taking the blame and punishment of the guilty. How about that?
I can't help to think e-j deliberately misleads people,,on the title page of this video there's the word scapegoat with the definition,but he's gotta know that scapegoat in English is completely different word,,the word used for scapegoat in hebrew is azazel,,,and if you look in concordance you'll see it means departure goat,,completely different meaning than the English meaning of the word,,now this man's a Bible scholar or expert, so I find it very hard to believe that he's not aware of this,,also he keeps saying that we believe he's "OUR"scapegoat ,,sda does not claim he's "our" scapegoat, the verse says he's "THE" scapegoat scapegoat,now he's been corrected on this by ADL on last response video they did but continues to word it this way,,so he might be fooling the majority but a few of us got your number Mr thunder
Please EJ, how can i get in contact with you? I would like for you to minister to my sons father because hes soo brainwashed by this SDA cult he was born into and its affecting his relationship with our son
EJ great video! I’ve been arguing with Ivor in his comments section and it is amazing to me how he talks in circles, avoids answering direct questions and sets up straw-men…..and seems proud of himself in the process. Can I ask you a question? In his first scapegoat video he had a part where he basically said that we believe “Jesus is Azazel”. I pointed out to him that we believe he is “the goat for Azazel” but that doesn’t mean we believe he “is Azazel.” He didn’t seem to understand the distinction I was making. He talked circles and then changed terms on me. He then changed it to “don’t you believe Jesus is the Scapegoat?” That seems like a completely different claim to me. Am I wrong? If somebody asked me, “is Jesus typified by the Scapegoat?” I’d say yes. If they asked “is he Azazel” I’d answer that with a hard no. Am I wrong?
Thank you. Yes, Ivor is like that. I understand your point. However, "is Azazel" or "for Azazel" is immaterial when you get to the root of it. Azazel was simply a type. And at it's root, the word means for sending away, removal, expiation. So the scapegoat is literally the goat for removal, expiation (Azazel).
From Hiding In Plain Sight Vol. 1, p. 262-3: Because the text says one goat “for Azazel,” Adventists think that this proves that Azazel was Satan himself who a goat was being sent to in order to appease him and thus make atonement for Israel.245 But this is a horrendous conclusion. There are better explanations and conclusions than that. The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia aptly notes: Both goats, according to Leviticus 16:5, are to be regarded as a single sin-sacrifice, even should we interpret Azazel as demon or Satan, and we are accordingly not at all to understand that a sacrifice was brought to these beings. This too is made impossible by the whole tenor of the Old Testament in general, as of Leviticus 16 in particular, so that in 16:8 the two members introduced by the preposition [le-] would not at all be beings of exactly the same importance. Both goats, so to say, represent two sides of the same thing. The second is necessary to make clear what the first one, which has been slain, can no longer represent, namely, the removal of the sin, and accordingly has quite often aptly been called the hircus redivivus. But what is to be represented finds its expression in the ceremony described in 16:20f.246 The author went on to justify that “for Azazel” should best be translated as “removal,” “sending away,” “releasing” or “dismissal.”247 Therefore, “for Azazel” should be understood as “for removal,” “for sending away,” “for releasing,” or “for dismissal,” and not “for Satan.” Adventists insisting that the scapegoat symbolizes Satan makes absolutely no sense because if the scapegoat is already Satan, how can it be “sent to Satan” (“for Azazel”) to bear away sin? Satan (the scapegoat) being sent away to Satan to atone for sin is ludicrous and heretical on many levels. But this is the logical end of the Adventist belief.
@@ReverendThunder So basically their whole premise about Azazel being a “demon” is bunk. I see. So though in English there seems to be a difference, it’s not really any difference in what the type truly represented. Did I understand you right?
@@ReverendThunder thank you for this! So much here. That part in verse 26 where you point out that it seems ludicrous to sent Satan to Satan…. That’s exactly why I was telling Ivor that saying the goat is Azazel cannot be the same thing as saying the goat is Azazel because how can you send Azazel to Azazel. And that’s kind of how the whole circle jerk got started. lol It’s amazing to me I used to believe this garbage.
@@blueticks8423 You're welcome. I understand and know the feeling. Lol. When critical thinking and contextual exegesis is applied to their doctrines and arguments, they easily crumble.
