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Discovering the Sabbath After Adventism (Part I) 

E.-J. Thunder Lauriston
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A great discussion myself, Myles ‪@answeringadventism‬ and the Beems had. Be blessed.

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@CalledUntoHoliness
@CalledUntoHoliness 3 месяца назад
Man... There is so much depth on this subject. I thank God for your channel and also Myles' for sharing so much insight. This makes me appreciate the cross more and the work that was completed in Christ. He is my rest indeed Amen!
@ReverendThunder
@ReverendThunder 3 месяца назад
Praise God. Happy for you brother. Look out for parts 2 and 3.
@roslynj5263
@roslynj5263 3 месяца назад
Frankenstein Sabbath! 😆Good interpretation!
@ReverendThunder
@ReverendThunder 3 месяца назад
😁
@user-rl9zh3td9f
@user-rl9zh3td9f 3 месяца назад
Be careful its not myles that s going to judge what you say. Hes the One that Sanctified the Seventh Day, thats why we work on seven day cycle and also End this world. Hes also merciful but He expects us to obedient to HIS law that brought about the death of Jesus, which includes the 4th commandment that He wrote Himself on the stone, and the same one in our hearts in the new covenant. Make no mistake even if the pope doesnt agree
@JamieElison
@JamieElison 3 месяца назад
​​@@user-rl9zh3td9fwhat difference would it make if you get the Sabbath day.... and don't have Jesus of Hebrews 7:13?.. are you sure about who's going to judge who? 1 Corinthians 6: 2.
@chrislucastheprotestantview
@chrislucastheprotestantview 3 месяца назад
The title is misleading. They did not discover the Sabbath after leaving adventism. The Bible never says any other day is the Sabbath but the 7th day. I am not a Seventh-Day Adventist I actually do a lot of videos against them. But you're using bad arguments from Seventh Day Adventist in order to straw man and teach that the Sabbath is done away with. I would debate anyone on this anywhere. I don't need a neutral platform. There is no way that the Catholic and Seventh Day Adventist interpretation of a Friday crucifixion is biblical. It's real easy to prove that it was most likely a Wednesday Jesus got crucified
@RandomTChance
@RandomTChance 3 месяца назад
Chris, "it's easy to prove it was most likely" = a definite maybe. Friend, we choose to believe He was Crucified on a Friday and Rose on the First Day, Sunday. It's what we see studying the Scriptures. If you're happy with your beliefs then we are happy for you. The Scriptures teach you have this right as we have the right to observe days we value. How is it different from Adventism when you come in explaining how you are right and we should follow you? We're not wrong, don't act like we are. We are called to resist false doctrines, not acceptable to God doctrines. Be well Chris. 🕊️
@LoriWingerBordessa
@LoriWingerBordessa 3 месяца назад
You are missing the point....
@chrislucastheprotestantview
@chrislucastheprotestantview 3 месяца назад
@@RandomTChance no I never said to follow me. I said the Bible teaches something completely different than what you're teaching. There is no Friday crucifixion in the Bible unless you think Jesus lied are you calling Jesus a liar? Because he said 3 days and three nights and there's no way you can get 3 days and three nights according to a Jewish calendar if you believe in a Friday crucifixion
@chrislucastheprotestantview
@chrislucastheprotestantview 3 месяца назад
@@RandomTChance I would think you're too brainwashed by adventism since you still believe in a Friday crucifixion
@Marey-hw6wn
@Marey-hw6wn 3 месяца назад
​@@chrislucastheprotestantview Chris, did it ever occured to you that there is a fisical Sabbath and a spirirual one? All sabbarh keepers and you included, did spend countles hours in formulating a defense for the 4th commandment and everything it represents, while completely missing out on the spirirual one. Somebody did asked you a great while ago how do you know that you have/know the truth, and your answer was that you use the Geneve Bible, if I remember it correctly. Bible reading have saved nobody, it can only tickles your mind. You can memorize the whole Bible and cry king on defending every doctrine, but if you not knowing and met the real Sabbath, all will be in vein.
@RandomTChance
@RandomTChance 3 месяца назад
The seventh day seventh day... ✌️😆
@omaridon1490
@omaridon1490 3 месяца назад
Lacking in
@geoffreydrew4810
@geoffreydrew4810 3 месяца назад
All the feast days of Leviticus 23 are fulfilled in Jesus Christ these are all old covenant trappings and therefore obsolete.
@Perseverance4477
@Perseverance4477 3 месяца назад
The Sabbath isn't part of the book of the law aka law of Moses it's part of God's law written with His finger and it was established at creation, all ten commandments. The book of the law was written by the hand of Moses and given because of the hardness of mans heart and not able to keep the commandments. God's law was kept inside the ark and the book of the law was kept in the side pocket of the ark "as a witness against us" and these were nailed to the cross however God's ten commandments are written on our hearts and minds in the new covenant if you're truly converted and born again and the holy Spirit will enable you to keep all ten. The carnal mind is enmity against the law of God and is not subject to it neither indeed can be. If you're carnal mind is in control then you will find any way to not keep God's Sabbath and hate and persecute anyone who does. May God remove the scales from the eyes of all those who think Jesus came to abolish even on jot or tittle of the law of God and who disobey the least of the commandments and teach men to do so they being considered LEAST by those in the kingdom of heaven. Repent and believe on Jesus and allow him to write his law on your heart and mind .
@JamieElison
@JamieElison 3 месяца назад
​@@Perseverance4477well to get where you are at.. in the statements that you're making.. you first have to get To 1844 in the fall with 2300.. !!!....(the math will not let you do it)))!!!!everything else from there on ,,that you're saying ,,is just like that math equation !and you can't interpret Daniel 8 if your life dependent on. it ..but go ahead, and do it ..I'm sitting here waiting on you... (You were told you have the spirit prophecy)!!! let's see how that works!
@williamdecamp7343
@williamdecamp7343 3 месяца назад
@@Perseverance4477so, if the Decalogue is separate from the covenant, how was sin atoned for (foreshadowed)? That’s how ridiculous your comment is. The law and sacrifices went hand in hand and Jesus was the fulfillment of both, taking away the sins of the world ONCE, at Calvary. Oh, and btw, Jesus is not a Levite but a Melchizedek “kingly” priest, seared on the throne next to the Father, King now. What he is not doing, ministering for sin in the most holy of Holies and Hebrews tells you that he is continually sanctifying (to make holy) believers. You wouldn’t know this because your taught that you cannot know that you are saved due to your false investigative nonsense
@user-rl9zh3td9f
@user-rl9zh3td9f 3 месяца назад
Hes not former adventist i pray that you wont be lead to hell because of these people
@ReverendThunder
@ReverendThunder 3 месяца назад
What makes you conclude that we are not former SDAs?
@user-rl9zh3td9f
@user-rl9zh3td9f 3 месяца назад
@@ReverendThunder with your discussion Myles master of context about EGW, the SDA is full of high learned people and for him to come with all these unsubstanstiated claims, is he saying that they are all been fooled? It really remind me of one i learned "The end justify the means." If you cant beat them due to misinterpretation of THE WORD on their part, find other ways to bring them down or rid of them like what they did to Jesus
@ReverendThunder
@ReverendThunder 3 месяца назад
@@user-rl9zh3td9f you have really convinced yourself that we are not formet Adventists?!
@user-rl9zh3td9f
@user-rl9zh3td9f 3 месяца назад
@@ReverendThunder there are so nominal adventist that do this, they have never had a deeper study of the Word that the SDA has, that you will never find in any other denomination that i know. And the application of the law in regards to salvation, that so many so called christian ruined because they followed unknowingly "Antinominism" another devilish belief that can not be proven from the Word if you study. To that end ive come to this conclusion and couldnt go on watching
@JamieElison
@JamieElison 3 месяца назад
​@@user-rl9zh3td9fwhy don't you pick one prophecy that you believe that you've been taught and show me the truth of it. Including who Jesus Christ is!
@jwesKeys
@jwesKeys 3 месяца назад
The seventh day sabbath in Leviticus 23:3 which is the same sabbath referenced in Exodus 20:8-11 commands that Gods people hold a “Holy Convocation”. This means a formal holy gathering so this idea that worship was not done on the Sabbath is not true. Adventist believe that the Sabbath is held on Sabbath but we are not apposed to worshiping God on other days of the week. We have evangelistic series that last several weeks and which church members gather to worship and evangelize. Your response toward the end of this video claiming that we only accel one day of worship is wrong. We certainly believe one day is the correct Sabbath day of the Lord though.
@ReverendThunder
@ReverendThunder 3 месяца назад
And that holy convocation, during the Wilderness Wandering, was actually in their tents. Millions of Israelites couldn't fit in that small temple courtyard. It was after they inhabited Canaan that the religious leaders slackened the Sabbath command and allowed minimal travel distance on the Sabbath (2,000 cubits).
@ReverendThunder
@ReverendThunder 3 месяца назад
Also, notice that Leviticus 23:1-3 makes it clear that the Sabbath is a "feast," the very thing Colossians 2:16-17 says shouldn't be matters on which to judge others and that they were shadows pointing to Christ. I'm glad that you realize this.
@Perseverance4477
@Perseverance4477 3 месяца назад
​@@ReverendThunder there are year Sabbath's which are feasts yes, but this isnt speaking about the seventh day Sabbath, it separated the two. The feasts were nowhere in site when God made the seventh day after the 6th day and he made a whole new day called the seventh day for the Sabbath. It was made for Mankind (ethnos) All works were finished from the foundation of the world and hebrews 4 tells us that inspite of this fact that the lamb was slain from the foundation of the world he still made the Sabbath day at creation and there ramains a sabbatsimos (a Sabbath day rest) for the people of God. Why do you all hate the Sabbath and hate His law so much?
@jwesKeys
@jwesKeys 3 месяца назад
@@ReverendThunder Verse 4 says “Now these are the feast” clearly creating a difference between those feast days and the sabbath. Not sure what your point is about them staying in tents. They’re in the desert and as you said can’t all fit in the sanctuary. Also, their services were not like our church services today with a praise team and sound guy in the back. lol. The seventh day sabbath was not a shadow of things to come just like the 10 commandments were not a shadow of things to come. The feast days all pointed to Jesus and they were a shadow of things to come. Also laws in the Books of Moses were written contrary to Gods people. They included punishments for disobedience. The 10 commandments were not written contrary to Gods people and were not hand written by man’s hand. They were inside the arch and written by God in stone..twice. This shows a significant difference.
@ReverendThunder
@ReverendThunder 3 месяца назад
@@jwesKeys you wannabe Jews and legalists have manufactured such differences, ideas, and artificial views in order to idolize the Sabbath or Ten Commandments. Biblically, those don't exist. I'll continue to believe what Scripture says over your flimsy creations and brainwashed ideas every time. Lev 23:1-3 (LHB)- 1 And the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, 2 Speak to the children of Israel, and say to them, Concerning 👉🏿the feasts of the LORD, which you shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.👈🏿 3 👉🏿Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, a holy convocation;👈🏿 you shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings. Col 2:16-17 (LHB)- 16 Let no one therefore judge you in food, or in drink, or with respect to a holy day, or the new moon, or the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
@Perseverance4477
@Perseverance4477 3 месяца назад
We are seeing the working of God in this great push to try and refute the Bible truths that we Adventists hold onto. Many people are being brought into the fold of Christ in spite of videos like these all over social media. People are finally hearing truths they've never heard before and they are studying deeper to see if these things really be so. I thank these people for doing the work of God unknowingly. Of course the goats are being separated as well but more are being brought into the Adventist church especially because adventists are refuting all these videos and sharing what Adventist actually believe from the Bible sk the truth is being proclaimed and Christ is being glorified. The truth always prevails. God bless these folks trying to work against God and I pray God removes the scales from their eyes and brings them into the remnant church calling God's people out of Babylon, until then they will be used by God so what they are doing all over social media. Praise God!
@JamieElison
@JamieElison 3 месяца назад
So if you're telling the truth! An the holy Spirit would really be with you... you will answer this question.!!! How did the sins get( in )Jesus Christ 1 Peter 2:24( and what did He do with those sins)..( on the same day )..as the levitical law requires ? Got to remember the first Goat ( does not bear any sin!!!)
@terrygreenman1540
@terrygreenman1540 3 месяца назад
SDA is of the Devil-a man made (or should I say “woman made”) religion birthed out of confusion, panic and false doctrine. The big question is this-why follow any religion? Jesus never started a religion. Why cannot we just “SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES” as Jesus commanded in John 5:39? Religion is the worst thing that’s ever happened to this dark and dreary world of sin. Salvation is NOT found in any religion; but in a person-The Lord Jesus Christ … “To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins” (Acts 10:43). The cult members believes that they are superior to others because of their unique teachings as they have knowledge of God’s will that other Christians do not have. Because of the false teachings of their prophet or leaders, they consider themselves especially chosen by God, and look at themselves as the "Remnant Church," or "The True Church". Fulfilled: Ellen G. White and the Seventh-day Adventist Church view themselves as "the Remnant Church" alone especially called by God in 1844, over all other churches, which they called Babylon. The Adventist still considers themselves the Remnant Church. Read, "Seventh-day Adventist Believe 27," Chapter 12, The Remnant and Its Mission, p.153. Seventh-day Adventist Believe: "One of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is prophecy, This gift is an identifying mark of the remnant church and was manifested in the ministry of Ellen G. White." "Seventh-day Adventist Believe 27," p.216. Without Ellen G. White and her Bible Contradictions, the Seventh-day Adventist Church could not call itself the Remnant Church. In fact the Word of God never calls any denomination a remnant church.
@williamdecamp7343
@williamdecamp7343 3 месяца назад
If what you professed were true, then explain the 49% of 100 that come in, are leaving through the back door of the church never to return. Your own records don’t even show the number that remove themselves from the roll. Adventism also double/triple counts all baptisms, repeats etc.. This can easily be proven, as most of the financial support is in the NAD and other divisions have no money but larger numbers of converts. It’s only a matter of time before the SDA house of cards crumbles.
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