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Good attempt to clarify the distinction. I've only been turning for a little over 3 years and have seen this discussion quite often in social media. Your AI queries are interesting in that they are a consolidation of all the data each of those AI systems had incorporated into their training sets. That kind of indicates that the sum total of all online data on this subject is highly mixed and inconclusive. Always enjoy watching your videos, even if they are just 4 1/2 minutes of my life I won't get back. 😄
Yes, that is inflation for you. Some things have gone up more than others. You could try repurposing an old kitchen knife from a thrift store. It will require more sharpening but meets some folks needs for a thin parting tool. You could make one from a blank like this amzn.to/4cfEFLB KNow that you will not be able to drill holes in it but will need to put notches for the fasteners.
I think this is a discussion topic that could be debated for days. My $.02 is that "live" edge bowls still have the bark on, "natural" edge one do not. However, the table makers seem to have a different nomenclature than wood turners.
Based on the comments, I will start applying your terminology which I think will become more common and accepted going forward. I think linking LIve to Bark makes it easier to remember.
I cut down a large one that split in a storm last year and just have it piled up in a big brush pile at the back of my property. I got a 10x18 mini lathe for Christmas and now that pile that I was going to burn off suddenly seems to be worth saving a lot of, lol.
Thanks for the mention and the discussion, Mike. Granted, the live/natural subject is not of earthshaking concern. But, if a tree is alive, it definitely has bark on it. So, bark on, live edge. All in all, this approaches the level of the discussion of how many angels can sit on the head of a pin.
Some say one way and some say the other. I just pick up a tool and turn, not being concerned with what to call it. However it is still interesting to hear what the experts have to say. In this case even the experts vary a little bit. Thank you for sharing Mike. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂
This subject came up in a class at Arrowmont several years ago. After some discussion among several of us students, our instructor cut to the chase and said natural edge bowls can be done with or without bark. The instructor: David Ellsworth. Good enough for me!
A number of years ago I tried to clear up this same exact question with numerous turners but I also got a lot of different answers, The way I look at I look at it is if a live edge bowl has bark on it it should be considered a live edge (the way the tree was when it was alive). A natural edge bowl with no bark is is just that it is showing the natural edges of the bowls.
An excellent demo Mike. I call it a EE. Educational and Entertaining. I really like the natural and bark edged bowls. This one is quite nice. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂
Thanks, I have heard that also. In my experience, the species plays a bigger role than when it was cut. How long it has been down also plays a role. Maybe because I have not turned that wide a variety of species with a bark rim.
@@MikePeaceWoodturning I agree, species makes a difference. Some woods let go of the bark easily, oak as an example. Other species such a Cyprus and maple hold the bark well.
Just the video I was searching for, thank you so much for making it and mick for inspiring it!! Other than the wires you mentioned are there any others that could be used?
I have a mountain of dry oak firewood that I would love to experiment with. I'm wondering, is there is anything I can do to stabilize the bark so that it doesn't fly off when it's spinning. I assume this sort of work is best done on green wood.
Good job! But I saw how you are struggling with measuring the depth of drilling and the depth of the groove, and I can suggest that you make a primitive device for these measurements yourself with an accuracy of 1 mm. If necessary, write your e-mail in the reply and I will send you a photo.
Kent Weakley and others would say your bowl is a live edge. Bark on, live edge. Bark off, natural edge. It's a distinction worth preserving, I think. Thanks for the discussion of different spur drives and their uses, Mike.
Thanks for sharing. I think it is good to have a clearly understood term for bark on vs bark off. Unfortunately, I think few woodturners would be able to recognize the distinction between live edge as bark on vs natural edge as bark off and would probably consider the terms interchangeable. Some knowledgeble turners consider the NE as bark on as indicated by this link blog.woodturnerscatalog.com/2015/11/turning-a-natural-edge-bowl-2/
Great review. My company has been at work on a PAPR with an all in one design monocoque manifold. Our aim is a PAPR that's more accessible to the DIY crowd. When we have certification, would you be willing to give it a try to compare? Its called MicroClimate Air3.
I have had the RIDGID oscillating sander for about seven years. Once my cheapo sander quit in my other shop, I didn’t hesitate to buy another RIDGID sander. I love them and have never been disappointed with anything. Very durable and versatile.
Mike, thank you very much for great video. Such products are multidisciplinary creativity. A lot of different skills and knowledge of various materials are needed. And even more patience. Good luck to you in this matter
I have just bought 2nd hand SC3 chuck from Ebay. The supplier says I will need an adaptor to fit my 3/4 x 16 TPI on my headstock. Is the thread size on the chuck indicated so I can identify which size adapter I need. My chuck is not due to arrive for few days so can't confirm
No they are not marked. The SC3 is marketed as a direct thread 1x8 and that is what most are. So you will likely need a spindle adapter with a 3/4x16 female and a 1x8 male. However, there are a few around that use a threaded insert that can be removed and replaced by a RP insert 3/4x10 but they would be rare.
I have an American Beauty and Oneida Supercell dust collection system. When I tried putting the TracVac collector hood on my lathe it did not fit well. My garage shop has rafters fit with 4" hoses so the floor clearance is unimpeded. I need to move behind my lathe so again no stands to get in the way. My solution was to mount the collector to rafter mounted chains and suspend it behind the lathe. Doesn't interfere with my Robust light bar, lathe bed is clear, and it swings away from the lathe until the collector is readjusted. Only nuisance is adjusting the height, means putting the bar on another link of my 4 suspension chains. After sucking up sandpaper, etc Itook 1/2" wire mesh from a bird suet feeder and mounted it on the WOW hood.
Great gonks, Mike! I think it might be time to update your parting tool to a D-Way thin wedge parting tool. You won’t have binding or need to make two cuts. Well worth the $.
Actually, I recently acquired a Carter and Sons thin parting tool I really like. It is a big improvement over the short handled PSI thin parting tool. But for small projects where the size of the cuts do not matter, I sometimes grab whatever is most convenient.
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The ones fitted with a cord as an ornament do well when ornaments sell. They sell for about what a nice birdhouse ornament sells for but are faster to make.
Neat idea getting to see what each of you views as a favorite project. Gnomes are fun to turn and a great way to use small offcuts. Liked seeing some of your design ideas. Thanks
I love your Gonks. Great project for the four way collaboration. They are so cute and so easy to make. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe. 🙂🙂
There have been numerous forum comments from folks about dust getting into the controls and causing problems on this model as well as other lather. YMMV. On my previous 3520b I had my emergancy shutoff in a bag as well.