It is a waste of efforts for Pope Francis to ban TLM. It is impossible because TLM is the mass of ages. Pope Francis will pass away sooner or later and face his judgement.
Eternal "GOD" LET YOUR CHURCH BACK to Latin Traditional Mass, Before your second coming, please Lord Jesus with the intersession of Mother Mary. specially for pilipino catholics.
Blaming Vatican II is scapegoating and ignoring the very real problems that caused the loss of faith. Martin Luther did not celebrate the Novus Ordo. No one did in AD 1517. In fact, the common mass at that time was the same _unchanging mass of the ages_ that is called the TLM. I served that mass and left because I experienced abuse from a transitional deacon who is now a traditional priest. That scandal in its _current form predates Vatican II._
I support the TLM and reject the NOM every bit but please stop calling the TLM "*the* Mass of the Catholic Church". It's the *Roman rite* Mass of the Catholic Church. The Bragan, Lyonese, Ambrosian rites in the West, the Coptic, Syriac, Armenian rites in the East - to name but a few - are also Masses of the Catholic Church. In other words, the Bragan Lyonese, Ambrosian etc. catholics in the West, the Coptic, Syriac, Armenian etc. catholics in the East are just as catholic as you, Roman-rite catholic.
I’m an older millennial or Xennial. I told an older guy (at my parish) after arguing with him over Vatican II Novus Ordo was executed poorly causing most of the issues we have now; that I felt as though I was robbed of my Catholic faith. That I didn’t get to experience what he did and it was my right! His look of surprise was telling. He apologized and said I’m sorry you feel that way and never thought of that…. Don’t mean to sound bad, but I can’t wait til that generation is gone from their power control. I hope they get to heaven but like our politicians, it’s just time for them to let go already and let us reclaim what is rightfully ours!
Pope St Pius V guaranteed the Holy Latin Mass as a right "in perpetuum" with anathemas. No one can ban it. No one. It is an integral part of Sacred Tradition and backed by Quo Primum Papal Bull.
I wouldn´t call people who do not believe in main/ central parts of catholic teaching, and who do not want to live as disciples of Christ in their every day lives catholics - just as I do not call them who do not believe in Lutheran teaching Luherans or they who do not believe in pentecostal teaching pentecostals. Noone on earth is perfect, and I believe that we are all sinners but there is a difference between them who believe Christ is their saviour and want to follow him and them who do not believe so. I don´t call someone christian just because of being a nominal member of a church. I am myself rather ecumenical and I am active in different denominations, mostly Lutheran -but as I mentioned in another thread I also go to for example theCatholic church.
For my part I don´t think it is that simple. When i say "Gods true church" I mean precisely what you said you didn´t mean at the start of the video. I think that today the large differences are often more straight through denominations than between them. I´m formally a protestant, Lutheran, but I sometimes visit the Catholic church or other denominations. I believe the caatholic vicar in our town is a very good preacher, and I believ he has The Holy Spirit. I think some catholic priests have and I think some Lutherena priests have, some orthodox priests have, some pentecostal pastors have etc. On the other hand I think there are many menbers and also preachers in different denominations that have not. I allways choose theologically conservative preachers, preaching the classic christian message about repentance and salvation. This does not mean that I am unaware of that there are some theological differences between the preachers I choose, or that I would believe all "are right on the issues where they differ" (which of course would not be logic), but it means that I think they are close to Christ, saved in Christs blood, and include the most important things in their preaching. I respect the pope, even if I believe that he at times has gotten somewhat too close to "liberal-theologian" positions on some issues.
But there is also another possible protestant position in relation to catholics. For my part I`m a protestant, but I am a "catholic-friendly protestant"., I sometimes visit the catholic church in my home town and I think the vicar there actally preaches more Lutheran than some priests in my own formally Lutheran church. The large differences today are often not between denominations, but straight through them. When I go to church I choose very carefully the individual preacher. I choose theologically conservative priest or pastors, no matter the denomination, that preach the classic christian message, preachers I believe have the Holy Spirit. And I Believe the catholic vicar in our town is such a man- a very powerful man of God, a very powerful servant of Lord Christ, that I want to hear preach. I wouldn´t be too surpriced to see miracles in his congregation, becauseI think he has God with him. But I still think I will remain protestant, for example because there are a number of catholic teachings that I simply do not share an honest belief in, for example transsubstantiation, the role of the pope as "stand in" for Christ in this world, popes infallibility,, some of the catholic theology concerning saints and other things. Also I believe there are many formal/ nominal members both in my own church (Church of Sweden) and the Catolic church who are not real christians, who are not blievers and not saved, and who do not attend church on a regular basis. In my country many are nominal christians, but only christians by the name-not true disciples of Jesus. I see believing catholivs as my sisters and brothers and I wish you Gods blessing, even if, as I mentioned, I will not mysef become catholic.
Modernist Rome destroys the papacy with it ecumenism collegiality and SSPX destroys the papacy with their schismatic, picking and choosing what they want to adhere to instead of obeying their pope. Disobedience to the pope is NOT Catholic trait. Both groups are disobedient to the magesterium. IMO. However I agree with you, they do not have the authority to ban the TLM because of Pope Pius V "Quo Primum".
All this about the making if the ark of the wood and the gifts brought to him at birth describing OuR Lord Jesus He was not touched until HE GAVE his life over for us because he was without sin And he was incorruptible David danced before the Lord The Holy Spirit overshadowed to make the Holy child not made from man’s semen ( forgive me for having to use that word) And And all else that was in the ark (Jesus in the flesh ) the outside Sinless man covering ) Inside the law the staff) Now gold his deity Not anyone else’s The manna from God And so you are saying that mary is sitting on the mercy seat and between The cherubim?? The ark is a picture of our Lord and savior Jesus
Do you still think people should go to NO instead of seeking the TLM? N0 started when I was in elementary school. We were made lukewarm in the faith by 8th grade. I didn’t return to attend any mass until 1991, after walking away 41 years earlier. Had it not been for finding the TLM in 2021, there was no point in returning to lukewarm N0. Communion in the hand is a deal breaker. God have Mercy.
That’s not the point - I am ex chatholic and The Church breaks the second commandment by have graven images of Jesus on the cross and Statye of Mary ok
This is just silliness. The Mass began being prayed in a Latin when it was the language of the realm. The original language of the Church was Aramaic and then Greek. Like the Mass, none of the scriptures were written, (copied) in Latin until hundreds of years later. The language of the Mass is not a doctrine of the Church and never was, it is only a doctrine to those who oppose the Church, yet believe themselves somehow to be more Catholic than the Church. This fantasy about how perfect the Church was before Vatican II is only held by those who neither know nor understand history. Has anyone read the book of Gomorrah? What was the language of the Mass in the 12th Century when that was written by St. Peter Damien, was it not Latin? This notion that the Church was somehow stronger before Vatican II is false and represents a myopic and revisionist view of history. This is a tactic usually employed by Protestants when they critique the Church in order to promote their own doctrines. Case in point, Bishop John Carroll, our nations very first Bishop advocated for Mass in the vernacular 200 years BEFORE Vatican II; “Can there be anything more preposterous than an unknown tongue; and in this country either for want of books or inability to read, the great part of our congregations must be utterly ignorant of the meaning and sense of the public office of the Church. It may have been prudent, for aught I know, to impose a compliance in this matter with the insulting and reproachful demands of the first reformers; but to continue the practice of the Latin liturgy in the present state of things must be owing either to chimerical fears of innovation or to indolence and inattention in the first pastors of the national Churches in not joining to solicit or indeed ordain this necessary alteration.” He can hardly be considered a 1970’s liberal looking to corrupt the Church. The Church alone was given divine authority and promise of divine protection, not it’s critics. Yes, even those inside the Church. Remember, many heresies from Arian to Luther were started by so-called Catholics who thought they knew better than the Church. Catholics need to stop pointing their fingers at the splinter I. The Church’s eye and start focusing on the beam in their own. It’s time for Catholics to stop in-fighting and whining, and start acting like Saints.
Thank you for this I’m an ex new Ager. Just ordered a new catechism book by ascension the color coded one gonna eventually get that Bible version and great adventure bible
Yes, Trent gave the Pope the authority to ban the Latin Mass. The sooner the better to put an end to this divisive Latin Mass. SSPX is not part of the Roman Catholic Church and can do whatever it wants to do what it wants. Shame on this host for lying about Canon Law. Peter NEVER celebrated the Latin Mass. It is a product of the Middle Ages. This is site is evil!
The True Holy Catholic Church is NO LONGER Vatican, Rome Since Vatican II and We have NOT had Any Pope from John XXIII till and Including Bergoglio. WAKE UP !!! Vatican II replaced Catholicism. So, Vigano didn't go to The Vatican in Rome to Answer ANYTHING CATHOLIC as The Vatican is No Longer Catholic. Vigano is Brilliant and Bergoglio Isn't even Christian let alone A Catholic Christian, he's an Antichrist !!!!! I find this disturbing that people are calling A.B Vigano a bit over the top, which We Sedevacantalists have been saying for decades now about Vatican City, Rome. Especially when Vatican II Changed What was Once The Catholic Vatican, Rome to a Secularized, Paganistic, Modernistic Religion - So HERETICAL, which is sending Souls to Hell as Acceptable. This Was ALL Satan's Plan and We were warned by The Blessed Virgin Mary In Her Apparitions of Quito -Equador, LaSallett - France, Fatima - Portugal and Akita - Japan. As Well As Pope Leo XIII, Blessed Catherine Emmerich, St. Paul, St. John in The Book of The Apocalypse and So Many others. We Were ALL DUMBED down through Technology and Medicines. Time to Wake Up and Fast ( ASAP )Too !!!!!
The TLM was never forbidden or prohibited so by trying to ban a Liturgy that is Holy will be a Sin against the Holy Spirit…….What was Holy then is Holy Now and forever #Tradition of the Church
Your opinion of attending the freemason Novus Ordo so-called mass is unfounded and just wrong. It is better to never go to a fake mass than to go, you don't get it. Grow a pair.
The priests and nuns who knew the depths of Roman Catholicism and became true Christians knew that the Roman Church is in error. The KJV Bible proves that the Roman Church is in error. It is the early independent Christian churches scattered throughout Europe and the East that’s been keeping the Greek texts of the bible, not the Roman Church. Apostle John before he died, identified which books of the new testament are authoritative to be included in the Bible, not the Roman scholars. History bears the record of the Roman Church involvement in World War 2, the Inquisition, murder of the Christians of the Alps and the Huguenots, witchcraft and occultism in monasteries, money scandals, activities of Freemasons and the Illuminati, political assassinations, Luciferian human sacrifices and so on that Archbishop Vigano could question. The writings of the so called Early Romish Church fathers and the Popes show their hatred and heresies. Add to that the occultic symbols in Cathedrals, veneration of dead bodies and chapels made of human bones. Is the 2000 year history of the Roman Church show that it is a fallen church or a fake in its origins? There were christian churches scattered throughout Europe before the Reformation, and they survived the 2000 year of history with their bible and hated by Catholics and Protestants alike.
If someone wants to learn what are the real and genuine objections of confessional lutherans against Rome, he/she studies the Augsburg Confession. Lutheran theology is the real protestantism and not the heresies called themselves protestants and accusing the Catholics with the naive way this video shows.
More catholic BS / Crap / Crock / Garbage, false assumptions about & twisting of protestant beliefs, and twisting of the Scriptures to fit their agenda. But, by the same token, protestants do exactly the same thing with the catholics. The early "church" was already becoming apostate and the catholic version of it was already forming. Constantine saw that, gave it a 'kick in the pants' to speed up the process and legitimized it. So, he contributed to its formation.
Sooner or later, youre going to have to "go there" concerning the jews. Youll be left behind if you dont. Theres the righteous jews, Jesus, His mother, the apostles, and many more.....and there was The Synagogue of Satan. Christ called them out Himself.
I understand why you tend to focus on the evangelical types, and they are undoubtedly the most influential. But the problem is that when you talk about the evangelical protestants you make it sound like they are the only ones that exist. You criticize Protestantism as a whole by directing your attacks at only the evangelical ones. The criticism is not that you focus on the evangelicals, but that you act like evangelical Protestantism is the only Protestantism. When you complain about the evangelicals, it needs to be made more clear that you are only talking about the evangelicals, and not Protestants as a whole.
I could not disagree more. The reasons people have left the Catholic Church is because of the priest pedophile issues that permeated every corner of the Church, and because the Catholic Church is intolerant of anyone different from the mainstream. The Church has alienated the LGBTQ community -- I personally know many Catholic young people who have left the Church due to this inflexibility. Pope Francis has taken it on the chin as he has made strides to make the Church open to all. Vatican II was the best thing that ever happened to the Church. Have some Parishes taken secularism too far? Yes. But don't throw the baby away with the bath water.
Growing up Catholic in Australia, I never once was exposed to a single anti Catholic comment. I’ve travelled extensively to many countries around the world and similarly never came across this. A relatively recent interest in apologetics and research online quickly exposed me to the vile lies Protestants feed each other over generations targeting Catholics. It’s quite pathetic and sad. To base their whole identity on lies and what they are not, all while denying the one true church Jesus established on earth. Not sure whether most Catholics being blissfully unaware of this is good. Videos like this help to expose the truth. I really enjoy watching the numerous conversion stories of Protestantism’s best and brightest to Catholicism - including theologians, scholars, pastors, and intellectually minded individuals.
