Something at a lot of fellow Catholics overlook is the fact that there will be a new heaven and a new earth. Just because animals can’t partake of the beatific vision, that doesn’t necessarily mean they can’t see Christ in his human nature, & animals, by virtue of their very existence, give glory to God’s handiwork & creation-they showcase the work of His wondrous hand-If heaven is going to be as Eden was, there will be animals on the new earth. Animals are made by God. It only makes sense that all His creation will be on the New Earth. I’m not saying it will be YOUR specific dog Sparky, & while I don’t want try to privately interpret the Bible like a Protestant, it does talk about the child putting it’s hand in the burrow & not being bit by the snake, Lion laying down with the Lamb, etc. Many animals are beautiful. The existence of their beauty gives glory to God, even if the animal in it’s non-rational will does not. It’s existence glorifies God, because He made it.
I don't think they will be in Heaven as man is, but I also don't think they will cease to exist like the atheist understanding of it. God has a plan for all of creation, He is a loving God. Additionally there is no dogma for or against it.
@@notyourtypicalcomment2399 Then why they were with Noe in his ark - which a symbol of Church and promise of salvation? You guys are almost like Protestants with taking some passages and stretching them to the limits. At least they do that with the Scripture, but you stretch weak philosophical thesis of one saint who took it from controversial pagan philosopher.
So what do you expect for god to save ants as well. Sorry but your dog is not getting to heaven because if you go to heaven you won’t need it. If you go to hell well it won’t matter anymore.
@@user-je5ib5nv8u My dog is an important part of my family, therefore to make a paradise without tears God would need to save her as well. Its simple logic
@@bennygohome4576 With that logic he might as well save your grandma and siblings. Add in all your friends and cousins too because you say that without loved ones it wont be paradise. In reality not everyone is saved but your heart would be forfeited to the lord for eternity so there is no love anyone else can give you more then gods love.
This is the first time I've disagreed with you. One can make several arguments for animals having some type of soul -- not on the level of ours, of course -- but the most convincing argument to me is God's perfect justice. I have read a myriad of books on purgatory over the years -- saints who are visited by the suffering souls -- and what strikes one most is the absolute perfection of God's justice, down to the smallest detail. For example, God is so perfectly just that he will reward a reprobate in this life for whatever little good the person did, knowing that that soul will spend eternity in hell. Animals are incapable of sin, yet they suffer the consequences of sin; I cannot imagine that the Good Lord does not compensate them in some way -- perhaps with "the new heavens and the new earth." Also, I remember Fr. Ripperger mention in one of his lectures that he believes there is some type of afterlife for animals, and he, of course, is an eminent Thomist.
A lot of people seem to be missing the point on this, I loved my last Dog a lot and when he died it was real rough and yes I will never see him again but I cherish the time I had with him, but at the end of the day a dog is not a son a daughter or some other human member of the family
But it feels like losing a family member even though is not human. Animals can't reason and thus can't sin and because they can't sin they don't need salvation. While they obviously lack an immortal rational soul God breathed life into them. So I do believe that for everyone that have accepted Jesus as their personal savior and lord that God will breathe life anew and this time forever on every pet we ever loved. So yes we will see them again but not because they have immortal rational souls which they obviously don't. I have to believe this because God said he would wipe every tear so is either that he does as aforementioned or that he erases all my memories of my beloved pets but God doesn't erase that kind of unconditional love at least not Biblically speaking.
"you will never see them again" Says who? God gave you them in this fallen world he can and surely will regift them to you in your place in Heaven. Is there anything the Lord cannot Do? The trick is making it to heaven yourself.
Some people who have had a near death experience said they saw animals. People have also said that in heaven, there’s beautiful flowers everywhere. Maybe all living things, since all life comes from God, have some level of an immortal soul.
@@rangefinderz5135 btw, fellow Christian, the way you are talking to me is very condescending and prideful. Maybe you need to go look over your bible on how to treat your neighbor, we are supposed to be correcting others with kindness.
We don’t really know. In the Book of Revelation we read that Jesus rides a horse. And he’s with an army on horses. What? Just horses in heaven? Why not dogs then? The Book of Revelation is not literal, but it is inspired. Still - we must wait and see.
Roman Catholic tradition teaches that unbaptized infants, not being freed from original sin, go to Limbo (Latin: limbus infantium), which is an afterlife condition distinct from Hell. This is not, however, official church dogma.
I always thought the whole animals salvation thing was silly. Why can my pet dog go to Heaven, but my bearded dragon ceases to exist? I'm pretty much of the opinion they just die and that's it. I don't think animals are capable of the beatific vision. I'm not going to pick fights over it because I want to see my chihuahua again (rip Chloe best girl ever) and I get the mindset, but its kind of a schizophrenic outlook where some animals are arbitrarily able to go to heaven (the animals tthe supporter owned) and some just aren't. (My hermit crab Bob when I was 7)
Exactly jesus died on the cross for the sins of humans not other animals. I think people get very emotional and don’t want to accept it so they try and change doctrine. Animals ceasing to exist after death is good for them but the people who love those animals don’t want to let them go.
I find it a disturbing trend that people aren't having children for selfish reasons but are getting pets and then considering themselves Cat Moms and whatnot. These animals are a coping mechanism that provides them unconditional love at very little expense or effort. I think its a sad reflection on our cultures inability to maintain healthy human relationships. Do I love animals? Of course! But thats not my point. When I see this trend I'm reminded of the Star Wars line...."I have a baaaad feeling about this...".
This is exactly what I think, I'm glad someone else is able to identify this. It's another indication of our sick culture that people put more value on the "unconditional love" of a pet than on the more risky yet more fulfilling love of another person, whether from children or a spouse. This is fueled by the same thing that fuels our culture's use of contraception (as you mentioned), pornography, and all other self-isolating vices -- the unwillingness to step outside of ourselves and risk being harmed through a genuine love which requires something more of ourselves. And it's this same unwillingness to sacrifice which prevents us from loving and really communing with God, possibly (God forbid) to eternal damnation.
Your comment is very interessting. I do like animals and love to look at them, esspecially cat-videos. But Why would someone chose a Cat over a Child? Because a Child requiers unconditional love and sacrifice for a while. But a cat is kind of a fancy toy.
usually the catholics i meet doing in-home service work who consider themselves pet moms or dads usually have a buddha statue inside or outside the home. take that for what you will
To be fair to translators, Genesis 1:30: "and to every beast (חית ) of the earth, and to every bird of the heavens, and to every creeper on the earth, in which is a נפש חיה, every green plant is for food." Genesis 2:7: " and the LORD God formed man out of the dust of the earth, and blew into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a נפש חיה." The Hebrew word for soul, נפש, is present in both verses. I checked the Latin Vulgate. נפש חיה is translated "anima vivens" and "animam viventem." Although I agree with St. Thomas Aquinas, I don't see how these two verses support that conclusion.
Thy righteousness is like the mountains of God, thy judgments are like the great deep; man and beast thou savest, O Lord. psalm 36:6 from rsvce version. What does this mean? I read it the other day and thought about animals being saved.
If animals don't have a soul then why is ANIMA the Latin word for "soul" ? What they don't have, unlike us Humans, is a SPIRIT. That's how God made us in His image. Animals are Pure and Untainted ; they love ; how can they NOT go to Heaven ?
The traditional Catholic teaching is belief in the Resurrection and of Heaven being on Earth. The prophet Isaiah taught animals will be here in the kingdom (chapter 11). He was no pagan. Our end is not a bodiless spirit. God will bring us back here and guess what he can bring back the pets we love.
Traditionalists are in love with Aquinas, but the truth is Aquinas was wrong in some things. He is not infallible Magisterium and it would be good to remember his last comment on his whole philosophical work was that it is like straw. Next thing is that you mistake heaven with paradise. Heaven is unique relation with God that is His special individual gift, it is given only to angels and humans in Beatific Vision. But God promised that He will make new earth and new heaven. There will be animals on new earth. Will we find animals in heaven? No. Will we find them in paradise of the new earth? Yes. Will we find our individual animal pets there? I don't know. THELOGICAL OPINION (because it's nothing more than that and what you presented here is not Church teaching) holds that we will not, but the matter is not closed and it's perfectly fine to have different. Also the argument of "you wouldn't need your pets because you'll be perfectly happy with God alone" is actually pretty weak. With that logic we will have no need to have relationships with other saints and we'll spend eternity in singular contact with God alone. We know it's not the case and even with Visio Beatifica we will share in Eternal Church of living saints. Plus St. Francis of Paola was known for belief that animals somehow survive their deaths and there are stories of him resurrecting animals. Deal with it.
Its a mistery, but one thing is for sure, we are the ones made in the image of God and elected by him, if animals Go to heaven, or have imortal souls, they are definitely not possibly judged
“And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.” Genesis 1:25 KJV “Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings, and not one of them is forgotten before God?” Luke 12:6 KJV “And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.” apocalypse 5:13 KJV “The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.” Isaiah 65:25 KJV
I have wondered about this subject but I do know that it was generally believed among Christians that animals don’t have immortal souls like people do although I did have a bunch of cats and dogs as a kid and as a teenager that I wouldn’t mind seeing again but God created us in his image not our pets and livestock
Dog died like 1 and a half years ago And then like 1 day after the light started to lightly flash, we asked questions and the lights were flashing as if yes or no answer
"And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called faithful and true, and with justice doth he judge and fight..." [Apocalypse (Revelation) 19:11] Where did the horse come from?
The hierarchy of Creation: Angels- no bodies, immortal souls Man -mortal bodies, immortal souls Animal- mortal bodies, mortal souls Plant - vegetative body and vegetative life Mineral- matter, no life God loves hierarchy
@@JustAskingQuestions8571 no, it is. Logically as well. No bodies, and spiritual perfection is higher as it is more like God. Also they were created before man.
Thank you for this I’m an ex new Ager. Just ordered a new catechism book by ascension the color coded one gonna eventually get that Bible version and great adventure bible
Aquinas also believed that women were inferior and deficient, so I sure hope the church actually takes everything he said with more than a few grains of salt.
@@rangefinderz5135 Who said something about Scripture only? Why do you create Protestant strawman here? If your theology is supposedly based on reason, then why you choose flawed reasoning? Maybe tell me how would you defend "brilliant" and "reasonable" Aquinas' theology of ensoulment or female intellectual inferiority?
I've read a lot of comments on here were Catholics are stating they will cling to their belief that their pet will go to heaven because the teaching that animals dont have eternal souls isn't a dogma. There is no teaching from any saint or apostle nor an apparition that states the opposite of the accepted teaching of the church that animals are completely mortal and do not live on into eternity. As christians we are not to reject truth, dogma or not. Just because you dont like an accepted teaching doesnt mean you are free to reject it. At one time the marian dogmas were accepted teachings, which all the protestants rejected.
@@Belladicta Okay. But I think the video was saying that animals currently on earth don't have Immortal Souls. The Horse in Heaven is probably an exception.
I believe God makes an exception for people who go to heaven's pets. Because He loves us so much he allows our pets to go to heaven. There are animals in heaven, Jesus is described as coming back on a white horse so don't think it's too much of a stretch to believe pets go to heaven.
Think about this for a moment: your house is far from the source of water, which all water flows from through pipes, some of the water flow to you through a pipe: You decide to come to the source, you go aside of the pipe: Now, if you already arrive at the source of water, do you need that pipe anymore? In the same way, God is he Creator, the source of all the goodness, including your pet(s), so if you are already at the source, we do not need our pets anymore like the source of water I’ve talked about. So even if our pets are not there, it is still heaven: Heaven is with God, so until we are with God, it is heaven. Now I know that there will be animals in heaven after the End of Times, these animals enjoy he Kingdom of God, so why can’t our pets there? It is not that we need our pets there, but our pets need and want to be there (if they know about heaven). Aquinas said that the souls of animals cease to exist after their death, but before God creates them, they don’t exist either. But God can do all things: He can create them from non-existence into existence: So as they die, they became non-existence again, and God can do all things: And God is the All Loving: As God bring them to existence before, He recreated them again. So do not worry, entrust them and unbaptized babies to God, our jobs are our lives first, our household and family, relatives and friends and convert people to the Catholic Church. God bless.
I think we know deep down that animals cease to exist when they die. I've never seen an animal lover not completely forget their pet the second they get a new kitten or puppy. Not I've never seen a mother or father forget about a dead child, or a son or daughter replace a dead parent. Humans are special, animals are not.
Think about this for a moment: your house is far from the source of water, which all water flows from through pipes, some of the water flow to you through a pipe: You decide to come to the source, you go aside of the pipe: Now, if you already arrive at the source of water, do you need that pipe anymore? In the same way, God is he Creator, the source of all the goodness, including your pet(s), so if you are already at the source, we do not need our pets anymore like the source of water I’ve talked about. So even if our pets are not there, it is still heaven: Heaven is with God, so until we are with God, it is heaven. Now I know that there will be animals in heaven after the End of Times, these animals enjoy he Kingdom of God, so why can’t our pets there? It is not that we need our pets there, but our pets need and want to be there (if they know about heaven). Aquinas said that the souls of animals cease to exist after their death, but before God creates them, they don’t exist either. But God can do all things: He can create them from non-existence into existence: So as they die, they became non-existence again, and God can do all things: And God is the All Loving: As God bring them to existence before, He recreated them again. So do not worry, entrust them and unbaptized babies to God, our jobs are our lives first, our household and family, relatives and friends and convert people to the Catholic Church. God bless.
I wonder if we need eating there except the fruit described in the Book of Revelation. Probably we treat wheat, cow, milk as God’s creatures and not food anymore because people wish their animals in heaven so they can be distracted from God, and yet animals are slaughtered there, how can that be heaven for the animals? God is All Loving, I believe that He will recreated all creatures from animals to plants for His Kingdom. But we cannot SLAUGHTER them!
I'm a huge fan of yours. I'm sure there's a backstory to why you specifically created this video but I don't get it. Multiple popes have spoken softly about the divine and special creations animals are. You can't pick a single one's position as definitive. Creating definitive Church positions on topics where there is none begins to lead us to solely go by the literal word of the Bible. Then why stop there? Stonings? Slavery? Cutting eyes out? We are not bound by the Bible's words alone. It's what makes us different. We know the writers of Genesis couldn't have understood pets as we understand them today. Absolutely, man has dominion over all things, but dominion doesn't mean animals don't have a purpose in God's beautiful creation. The bottom line is we really don't know. At minimum, we should believe when Jesus creates a new Earth, it stands to reason that place will be filled with the creatures we know. Ultimately, and maybe because I believe you stand absolutely right on so many positions, this post seems out of character and in poor taste. But this is your channel and I'll be back for your next video regardless.
I kinda square it as follows: there are no animals in heaven or before the beautific vision. However I do believe that when creation is renewed after the last day, the animals that people loved will be on the new earth. I do agree though that no one needs an animal to be perfectly happy in the presence of God and that many people have a warped relationship with animals. Ultimately they’re here to serve us not the other way around.
In supposedly After Death Contacts, some dead loved ones had their pets with them. Yeah there might be animals in heaven. It’s just that they won’t be that same animal you owned while you’re alive. They’re probably not designed for that. Or did the scripture writers neglected to mention it/God didn’t disclose it in revelations, to avoid confusion.
Is there not a chance that animals will have their own place or type of “paradise”? Of course, Not equal to the beatific vision or glorified bodies, obtained through the redemptive work of Christ that is for Man only but since they do have a spirit and God can do what He wills is it possible that some other possibilities remain for their spirits? As loving as and merciful we can be God is infinity more so Sacred Scripture says that “the righteous man regardeth the life of his beast”… Idk I guess it’s just hard to imagine them going back into the void of non existence. Also Since God exists outside of time, technically won’t they always be there in that sense? Peering back is what I’m getting at. “Oh my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell, lead all souls to Heaven, especially those in most need of thy Mercy” +---------+---------+ 🌹 “Pray the Rosary every day, in order to obtain Peace in the world…” -Our Lady’s Words at Fatima May 13th, 1917 🌹 +---------+---------+ -God bless 🌹Ave Maria🌹 +Viva Cristo Rey+
Better to invest your love in that which will endure for eternity rather than that which is here today and gone tomorrow. I believe that there will be animals on the new earth, but they won't be your dog or cat. Those animals will likely be the same as the wild animals that were originally created. I don't believe there will be any domesticated animals in the new earth.
You are wrong about acts 10. That is not about allowing Christian’s to eat all meats; it is saying that the gentiles are not unclean and they will be allowed in the kingdom of heaven.
You woke up and chose violence I see lol. Good stuff I miss Christendom. It's amazing to me that people think God can't fulfill their heart with love and that they'll need their pet. It's almost like they love their pets more than they love God. Even if your mother ends up in Hell and you're in Heaven. You will still be filled with love and praise God for His justice. It's really hard to accept that I probably have family members that will be in hell one day. But if and when I make it to heaven, I simply won't care about that anymore. That is my only comfort now while I continue to pray for their salvation.
This is gonna hurt to watch , im on the spectrum and woul rather be around animals than people and animals always take a liling to me or come up to me ready to play but i know that i will learn something new and a hard truth perhaps in this vid, great channel! Hope you're able to participate in the first 9 fridays !! Stay safe and thank you for all that you upload ! 🤙🏻 🙏🏻📿
@@imisschristendom5293 first time doing the first 9 Fridays after walking away from the Church years! I've only been going back to mass (TLM) for not even a year and feel totally transformed even tho my life is not where I want it to be right now Christ has been a TOTAL life changer for me and I now have my eye on the prize and that prize is Heaven once I'm done with this horrible fallen world where we will have no pain and struggles of any kind! I realized if I want to spend all Eternity in peace with God then I must be do the work now! Not sure what my vocation is but it's all good either way it goes as long as I am doing what God wills me to do and not what I will myself to do! Have a great June !!🏵️☀️🕊️
Well if An early grave and death as soon as possible it's the Biblically prescribed solution for all Christians that have actually loved pets and didn't simply had them as hood ornaments then pray for our deaths so our suffering ends with the erasure in paradise of all the loving memories of our beloved pets again if that's the Biblically prescribed solution. I personally believe that God Biblically speaking did breathe life into all living things including our beloved pets and that once in paradise God will breathe life again anew into all the pets we ever loved forever this time around. But of course I don't know which so please pray for our earliest deaths possible so God can snip out all the loving memories and with them the pain.
This is an important subject and a repudiation of the shibboleths of boomers that lead toward paganism. It's okay to have animals and care about them, but one must temper their feelings toward their pets using reason. The mind must rule over ones passions, not the passions over the mind. Modern man places far too much value on dogs and cats, it's insanity to see them as equal to children, as many do.
Well they aren't rational beings so they can't sin and have by definition no immortal rational soul but God did breathe life into all living things including our beloved pets so many myself included believe that in paradise God will breathe life again anew into all the pets we ever loved forever this time around. But if as some suggest the earliest demise possible for us so God can snip away all our loving memories of our beloved pets and with them our grief that only physical death can cure Biblically speaking if again you are correct then do pray for our collective demise at the earliest so God can take away our pain which can only happen when we are in the grave if you are again correct regardless.
Who needs water pipes when they are at the source? So even if we remember things on earth, we won’t need our pets, as we are already in the Presence of their Creator, Who is also our Creator, the Source of Goodness. But I think God will still restores or recreates them for His Kingdom, not for us, but for them (the animals… and mosquitoes, 🦠 viruses, bacteria, cockroaches 🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳🪳and plants as well) as God can do all things and He clearly can brings them into existence before and He is All Loving. Imagine 🪳 and giant pre-historic insects crawling, flying around peacefully in heaven.
@unidentified-chara-friskdr9795 Since he is all loving he will either breathe life anew forever this time into all the pets we ever loved or he will snip away all our loving memories of them or did you forget their won't be tears or sadness in heaven that can only happen in one of the 2 aforementioned ways. What you are describing while retaining all the pain forever is not what heaven is like but what hell is like.
Actually, Steve, they do - but only the pets of people who go to heaven. I actually had a direct revelation of this a few months before we thought I would die, back in Sept. 2022, which is a circumstance I mentioned to you but didn't elaborate much on. Anyhow, shortly after getting the shocking news of my demise in the imminently foreseeable future, it was "a very emotional time for Buttercup," and one day I threw a bit of a tantrum and whined to myself that my babies (my kitties) -- because not everybody can have kids, and most people in this day and age should NOT have kids, and they further damn themselves by doing so -- wouldn't even be in heaven waiting for me, AFAIKnew. I literally had no one at that time to look forward to seeing in heaven except my paternal grandparents, and little hope that I would have many family or friends there later, myself being a mostly isolated individual who has zero devout Catholic friends or family who would, therefore, have a good shot of heaven. So there I am, just driving along, randomly feeling sorry for myself and devastated that my babies probably won't be waiting in heaven, and the Lord immmediately broke into my thoughts with "They will." Then I was given to understand why. When we love our pets, they somehow mystically become a part of us, and so they share in our eternal life if we go to heaven. I'm not the only person who has had this revelation, either. And if one really adores Our Lord's Sacred Heart and has any experience with how very *tender* His heart is, it makes complete and utter sense that He would not be able to bear separating us from our little furry family. That, right there, is it, if one really knows the way Jesus loves. That is so, so Him. Aquinas just did not experientially understand how tender our Lord is. Wonderful as Aquinas was, he was an egghead and possibly autistic. Fr. Ripperger is the same way. And it's a misguided impulse that leads him to tell people that their pets won't be in heaven, which is, at the end of the day, unspeakably cruel. Fun story, Our Lord reaffirmed this revelation to me a few months later, after I exceeded my expiration date and surprisingly went on to live. One day I'm in an Adoration chapel, and Our Lord says, "Remember how pets become part of you? You're part of Me." And I'm like, "Awww..." Wait... Did He just...? "..." AHAHAHAHAHA. 😂 Why, yes, yes He did. One of my favorite things about Our Lord is that He is a really funny guy and sometimes actually teases and laughs and even plays. Sometime maybe I'll tell you what happens when you decide to play peek-a-boo with God, lolol. (Don't try it. The result is simultaneously hilarious and terrifying.) Incidentally, our guardian angels view us somewhat like pets as well. I found that out early on and had quite the hilariously gobsmacked reaction. I'm telling ya, the people "up there" enjoy getting quality entertainment out of us, all in good fun. 😋
I believe the same as you. I think you expressed it very well. If we are in our Lord's heart that which is good and pure in our heart is as well. So if we make it to Heaven God may well give us our companion animals in Heaven. That is for Him in all His Goodness to decide. (Like you I tend to believe it will happen) I think that once we are purified in Heaven we will be so perfected all will be so glorious with the Lord it will be perfect no matter what. Honestly I feel any person here on Earth declaring that to be untrue is running the risk of pushing people away from the faith. There are so many who are not strong in faith who only have their pets for family and to have a Priest or other leader tell them their pets wont go to heaven might actually cause them to leave the Church. :(
I have always thought that animals can’t experience real love (beyond their natural instincts) until they are loved by us. Then a change happens and they become childlike, though some become more tame than others. It truly is like we are filling them with our love (which ultimately comes from God) and it brings them to life in a figurative sense.
@@imisschristendom5293Animals are God’s creatures. He surrounds them with his providential care. By their mere existence they bless Him and give Him glory. Thus men owe them kindness. We should recall the gentleness with which saints like St. Francis of Assisi or St. Philip Neri treated animals (CCC 2416).
@@imisschristendom5293 theyre are animals in heaven and thats a fact but its one of the great mysteries . the animals in heaven arnt here on earth from my catholic studies
Why? In what way was the animal separated from God? In what way was atonement necessary for that animal? In what way did that animal make reparation? In what way could that animal understand the need of reparation and so on?
Animals do go to heaven. Everything that the Lord made is good, and finds itself in heaven. When everything failed, the Lord did not seek to destroy it for it's foolishness But through the power of grace and wisdom allow what may to truly exist. In the kingdom of your Father, animals are given understanding so that they have peace with everything else. Consider the human baby and the grace it is given Remember, those who know little are beaten with few blows
Strange that this video appears only one day after my cat was killed by a car. No, as a catholic I made up my mind several years ago and was led to the same conclusion than you, they vanish.
It's a good thing you didn't love your cat and that it just was a hood ornament to you. But to all Christians who actually loved their pets and saw them as Gifts of God himself as I do only 2 options exist. Either God who breathed life into all living things including our beloved pets once we are in paradise God will breathe life again anew into all the pets we ever loved forever this time around or an early grave the sooner the better so God can then erase all loving memories of our beloved pets making death the only solution to our grief is the only Biblically prescribed solution. Now I prefer the first to the later.
@@RoyCyberPunk And how about the belief that your pet's ''soul'' would go to a paradise reserved for pets and you can no longer cuddle them because of this? Do you really worry about their hapiness or about yourself and the unconditionnal love they had for you?
@lereseauamitie6349 As I said I don't believe that animals have souls as it's obvious that not being rational means they don't need salvation I do believe that God did breathe life into all living things including our beloved pets and that in paradise God will breathe life again anew into all the pets we ever loved forever this time around but as I said that's for people who did love their pets and saw them as God's gifts unlike you.
I understand that animals don’t have immortal souls like us but I have a hard time accepting their pain and suffering in this life after the Fall if this is their only life. They were not able to sin so why does God allow them to be punished for Original sin? I know God cares about us but it seems like He doesn’t care about them. I know they don’t suffer the same as us and they live in the moment so they don’t have the anxiety we do. I try to have faith in God that He has His reasons for allowing most of them to suffer in the only life they have but it is hard. I have had animals all my life. Three years ago two pitbulls got on my property and killed my donkey and one of my three ponies and I am still upset at the terror my donkey must have gone through and I wasn’t there at the time to help him. My pony died of her wounds several days later, I couldn’t get a vet at the time. Pitbulls are a human manipulation of canine genetics that created a dog monster that should not be allowed to exist any more, and their ancestors were bred for bull baiting in Elizabethan times in England, which was more animal cruelty and suffering. I do think though that most of the animal worship out there is for dogs, not most other animals. This dog culture and propaganda is totally out of bounds, sick of dogs being pushed at people in movies, commercials, media, etc. Generally, dog people do not care about other animals, only dogs, they don’t care if their dogs kill other animals like cats, livestock, and wild animals. Yet if you say anything negative about dogs it’s a mortal sin in our dog crazy society.
Taking away from heaven in dumb and prideful. You can't fathom it's richness and animals will be a part of it too more likely than not. Lazy bait video.
I have to disagree. In Heaven everything is perfect so if an animal such as your pet dies you will be reunited as long as you earn it. Protestants and Jews who follow the Word of God while they can't enter heaven they can spend eternity in the Limbo of the Fathers presumably after doing time in purgatory and would be reunited with their pets there instead of Heaven. With Jesus Christ all good things are possible.
Great summation on an important topic, though I'm betting this video will get a lot more pushback than other, seemingly more-controversial topics; for reasons I can only guess (some of which you covered here), people today, even good Christians and Catholics, seem to immediately bristle up at the notion their particular animal won't be in heaven with them. Ultimately I think it just comes down to an unfortunate ignorance of how highly God views the human soul, especially in comparison to all other created things -- in previous times Christians would have found it laughable to assume animals would have immortal souls and automatically go to heaven, and if we had culturally retained a proper sense of Theosis then I think we'd still have that same reaction. As a basic comparison, just think of if God the Son became incarnate not as a rational man, but as a dog, or cow, or rodent, or lizard, or insect. If the thought of the Logos, Jesus Christ, taking that lowly of a form doesn't cause you at least a bit of unease or a feeling of ridiculousness, then you should really pause and think on if you actually have an incarnational faith. And if you do have that sense of unease, then realize with wonder and glory at how much He loves us to lower Himself even to our level, and realize that the only way it was still appropriate for Him to humble Himself to that point and no further is because there IS something that differentiates our souls from plant and animal souls, and that difference is how we are indeed made uniquely in His image, one sign of which is our ability to think rationally. God bless.
@@sleepystar1638 Heaven is described as having flowers that don't exist on Earth yes the Church is going to marry Jesus but he speaks of mansions of banquets and so and he breathed life into all living things including our beloved pets so it's not that farfetched to believe that in paradise God will breathe life again anew into all the pets we ever loved forever this time around but if not then the alternative is for non animal loving Christians to pray earnestly for the earliest demise possible for all of us Christians who ever had pets that we actually loved and not had just to be hood ornaments so God can then snip away all our loving memories of our beloved pets and with that the pain that only death can cure.
We live in a horrible fallen world , of course literally everyone in the whole world will have " emotional damage " in this life before they die. Such is life ,we have been exiled from Heaven until our death 🙏🏻
And once again RU-vid deletes my comments. They really don't want Christians who have had pets that they actually loved and weren't just hood ornaments to be heard. That's for absolute certain.
A normal reaction to cruelty. Go tell a shut in or old person whos only friend and companion in this life is their beloved domestic animal that they will never see them again. I honestly think thats about the cruelest thing i can imagine, Cruelty is not a gift of the holy ghost last time i checked
For example, do you assert that Mary was NOT sinless? St. Thomas disagrees. We can talk about ark covenent theology momentarily. I am happy to open a can or maybe even a whole case in a minute 😂
@@QuigleyArbuthnot thanks, and I agree. But you implied something specific about a saint. I will hold you to account, or you will retract🙂 Tell me VERY SPECIFICALLY why you believe SAINT Thomas to have ERRED in his assessments, which, at THAT TIME (1400s) were quite orthodox and which have NOT in fact changed in the way you imply? In fact, if you impugn a saint I want you to be VERY SPECIFIC.
God never gave animals a commandment the way He did human beings. He never gave them a choice to obey Him or not, they don’t NEED salvation, they didn’t sin because they weren’t given the choice like we were. Why even make a video about something that can’t be proven anyway? I’m starting to think Christians today have lost all sense of priority.
I suppose it is possible for any soul to be mortal, if God willed it, but I see no reason to think man is different from the animals, except in mans unique talent to speak and think. Even if we supposed all animals have immortal souls, I believe it would be okay to kill and use animals, because we kill them humanely, we are giving them a better life than out there in the wild. Think about it, would you rather be euthanized painlessly by a human, or die getting insides eaten out by a wild animal? The fence is there for their own safety. You have to consider the life an animal lives on their own merits, what humans are offering them makes things mutually beneficial. They can't speak to refuse the deal, which is typically an improvement for them, and we need to eat to survive, so we're taking it, and worst comes to worst, they would have probably lived lives of suffering anyways. In this view, it is sinful not to treat animals in a humane manner - or more precisely, unnecessary cruelty towards animals is sinful. I also think its worth pointing out that in the past, animals would be brought to court in animal trials. Yes, the animal love is excessive - I don't even need say that as a christian but as a personal opinion. The idea of an animal being a member of the family rubs me the wrong way, its excessive adoration. I do love my pet ducky a lot, very very much, I still miss him because he was taken by a theif, but sorry you have to be human to be family. I loved him, but he's a duck, I would eat him if I had to.
Wow my post 📫 got deleted. So here it goes again. Only 2 options here since it's true that animals don't have rational immortal souls and are incapable of sinning so they don't need salvation either regarding us Christians who have and love their pets and don't see them as hood ornaments or something like that. 1. God did breathed life into animals including our beloved pets and so when we go to paradise God will breathe life into them again forever this time. 2. An early grave the sooner the better is the only way for Christians that have had pets that they loved and weren't hood ornaments for their suffering on Earth to end as Biblically speaking that's the only reprieve that Christians that love pets have. Now I don't know which of the 2 is true but I do know I prefer the first option.
Wow all my posts 📫 are being automatically deleted RU-vid really doesn't want the opinion of Christians that hace had pets that they loved instead of being hood ornaments being heard
Wether they know or not, Big company hate Christianity and hearing the truth and it will probably never change. They promote homosexuality and pride each month of june
Christ came to save the whole world as stated in scripture and it’s your choice to deny the Good News. If what you do, understand or believe outside of Christ mattered, then you would go to Hell(Hades{the grave}) just like everyone else, however then you would be cast into the lake of fire (second death) for not believing in the Firmament that is in Holy Scripture! Yet, Christ paid the price for you and all of your idolatrous Space believing friends for the anti-scripture lie taught by NASAtan. Yea…..Christ is the only way, which is good news, because if not, you would be screwed.
I'm a cat person too. I'd like to be a people person but this kind of video keeps turning me off. I don't know whether either people or cats have immortal souls and you and Thomas Aquinas present no rational case for knowing. Edit: finger fumble
This video doesn't speak for all people of the Catholic faith just read the comments and you can see a lot of feedback. This is not a belief held by the Church just some people in it. Many of us believe we will see our companion animals in heaven.
That is not true. You have every hope of seeing your dog again. The Church has no official teaching on this, Aquinas is just one man and has been known to get monumental things wrong, and numerous mystics have had revelations about our pets joining us in heaven precisely because our love for them makes them a mystical part of us - because we love them and they become part of us, they share in our eternal life. Furthermore, some reliable near-death experiences have given evidence of pets. Check out the long comment I left on this video explaining in further detail. 😊
@@lilyw.719 Okay thanks. I read it, but why do you say most people today shouldn’t have kids? If they are able, can afford it, and both husband and wife want to I say go for it.
Wow once again RU-vid deletes my comments they just don't want Christians that have had pets that they actually loved and weren't just hood ornaments to speak.
@@nl396 No they don't have a rational immortal soul nor are they capable of sinning so they don't need salvation either but God did breathe life into all living things so many myself included believe that in paradise God will breathe life anew into all the pets we ever loved forever this time around. But if it is as you say regardless then all non animal loving Christians should earnestly pray for the earliest demise possible for all Christians who have had pets that they actually loved and weren't just hood ornaments so God once in paradise can snip away all our loving memories of our beloved pets and with it the grief that only physical death can cure Biblically speaking if you are correct regardless
Dogs can never see heaven. Aborted children return to God in Limbo. Those that aborted them are condemned. Logical teaching is hard and thats why we soften it to meaninglessness in the modern world.
Wait, are you saying that a mother who (before finding Christ) aborted her child but later in life fully repents and confesses her sins in His Church can’t be forgiven? 🤔 You’re not God. Who gave you the authority to say who is condemned and who is not in Heaven?
@@jesusloveseveryone888 Murder is a mortal sin. All are condemned unless they repent. How is this concept hard for you? This is why I say that protestantism is just spirituality. It only exists because it makes you comfortable. Its the same reason you think your dog is going to heaven🤣
@@rangefinderz5135 All sins are mortal small or big don’t matter for we are all sinners and as such we all deserve hell in reality which is why Jesus paid the wages of our sins in the cross so whoever believes in him as his/her personal savior and lord can be saved. And your abject cruelty notwithstanding regarding all Christians who have had pets that they actually loved and weren’t just hood ornaments or an animal hater as in your case. As I said before God did breathe life into all living things so most Christians like us of all denominations that happen to be Born Again Christians believe that in paradise God will breathe life anew into every pet we ever loved. I honestly think that you are a horrible and evil human being not guided by the love or Christ or even the Bible but just by abject cruelty and the urge to hurt others in any way you can as it all that gives you pleasure in this existence.
Your dog has no notion of confession and no means of atonement for a sin his ancestors never committed and which never separated his non-animus soul from peaceful limbo. It is hilarious to me that this is a "debate"... 1500+ years of Christians understood this innately.
I think and feel that animals and plants, minerals have a soul, animals like cats, for example are very sentient beings and have their own personality, they even have morals, we; my parents and I, saw a cat trying to raise her children, to educate them and she didn't took her task lightly!
Animals are not humans, they dont have souls, they live by instinct, not by reason, humans have reason, leastways they're supposed to have reason: Heaven is for the children of God, not for their pets!
Do you mean Pets or Animals? Because, will the cow you ate a piece of, also will go to heaven? Or the pig-leather you use, will the pig also meet you there? I do not think to have an answer. But where does life and concious start?
@@Anneliese210I think IF animals would be in Heaven, if it was a pet cow/pig you loved and it brought you joy in this Earth, God would give you that companion in Heaven. If you used the cow as food, then it doesn’t need to be in Heaven. Animals who are loved by people usually behave different than a wild animal. The love they share is different from the instinctive love they share in nature. For example - a mother dog can eat their own puppies or after they are a bit older - "throw them out of house" like they are nobody. But a dog experiences & shows love much more when he is loved by a HUMAN SOUL.
I think it's more that we love our pets and through wishful thinking like to think they are in heaven. Immortal souls though, let's find that in scripture. Your soul can die. The soul that sinneth shall die. Don't fear them that can destroy the body but.... Etc
Creation is subject to the fall of Adam and Eve, but God created it good, and it is not “totally depraved.” Animals belong to this world. When we see love and loyalty in our pets, it is not proof that they have souls, but proof that the flesh is not completely evil. Nevertheless, there are some bad dogs. If pets had eternal souls, the Lord would have provided some means of atonement! He would have given them a revelation and chance of reconciliation!
For that they would need to be rational beings and obviously they aren't and as such they are incapable of sinning and don't need salvation either so no they don't have an immortal rational soul that needs saving. But God did breathe life into all living things including our beloved pets and many myself included believe that in paradise God will breathe life again anew into all the pets we ever loved forever this time around. But if not then all non animal loving Christians need to pray earnestly for the collective demise of all Christians who had pets that they loved and weren't just hood ornaments as the grave would be the only solution for our grief as God would then in paradise snip away all our loving memories of our beloved pets so our grief finally comes to an end but that can only come about through our physical death if the later is true.
In the new earth, there will be animals, but they will not be as they are today (Isaiah 65:25). They will not be animals that live now but die and are somehow glorified with new bodies and new life. Animals are a beautiful part of God’s creation, but they are not people. I had a woman tell me that she loves her 17 year old bulldog more than her son. Loving animals as humans is unnatural affection.
I disliked this video because, God takes care of all creatures. Saint Thomas Aquinas is a Doctor of the Church, but he's NOT Infallible, before he died Saint Thomas Aquinas said that all his writings are like straw.
All this talk of Jesus riding a white horse in heaven. Just because there is animals in heaven which there definitely is (lamb with the lion also kids playing harmless snakes in Isaiah) does not mean the animals here today will partake in salvation. Quite silly, it’s obviously cope and and the defense sounds like animal idolatry.
