Shit build and shit weapon. Sure, you’ve found a way to mitigate the bleed so it doesn’t kill you but you’re walking in slow motion constantly & the screen darkens. Not worth it, Backfire is great for one thing - deconstructing for exotic components.

I would say the main guy here is Memento not Backfire. And if you try calssic memento+hunters fury+dark winter build you would be suprised

it sucks, if you are in fight you get dmg it's unplayable effectively, in shooting range ev everything is easy

You can use it with striker too, ninjabackpack, picaro holster(double skill tier rolled/kneepads for 75 rnds, and 2 armor and 1 skill striker, shield/healing drone. Been messing with it though that was build in a group

aber 60% chance und 298% critDM = 600k dmg.... ... zu wenig und aufladen auch noch......

Backfire is really good, but i just hate that visual bleeding effect.

How are you getting all that bonus armour?

The Backfire is not worth using, Hunters Fury is one of my favourite builds in the game, I would never use the chest though, I would use Intimidate with the Momento(if playing solo) and a Dark Winter, the CMG Banshee is really good now with the buff it has just had in the latesst patch and either of these smg's would do more damage than the Backfire even with 3 Blue cores on the build.

Could have actually showed the build but you didn’t show anything in the video Shit like this is mad annoying good luck getting subscribers

bro i found this out by accident too coz i played around with my backfire + bloodsucker + armor on kill build and i noticed at the end when i have over 350 critical damage... i dont suffer the bleed anymore. this makes perfect sense!

Y not use striker with memento backpack? And roll those crit hits attributes to Hazard ? And talent obliterate on chest piece ?

This is how I used backfire before i understood what hazpro was, lol. I never watched any videos on it but yep.

For my builds I usually go like this Braced, trauma, sadist, eyeless, empowered & opportunist To get the same tight spread you have. Would you say some of my choices are worth switching out? (I usually go for unhinged as a red skill too)

you earned yourself a sub

Finally someone who thinks out of the box ! my god man everyone on youtube is doing the exact same crap ! You sir have gained a new fan.

I have a 1.7m armor hunters fury build with non exotic version. can I simply just swap it with the backfire?? Whilst having no hazard protection?

all these builds suck just swap to your secondary close to the end of your reload and the mag is full but no bleed status

You don’t need 60% crit chance. The maximum you need is 50+. 9/10 times someone is running the coyote’s mask so you are losing out on more crit damage by running too much crit chance. The maximum amount of crit chance I run is 52%. The extra 8% will not get you that many more crits. As long as you have to where half your mag hits a crit, that’s more than enough. People run hazard protection to avoid the slowing from bleed. Slowing down the experience just makes the experience worse for everyone.

Bro with 90 percent hazard protection and around 60 percent crit hit damage ı can hit up to 1 m crit hit damage with striker set. :( and ı am immune all status effetcs. Hunters emp, incursion boss wrights hardened foam anyting can’t hold you.

The right way to Backfire is to either leave it in your stash or deconstruct it xD

Backfire is still entirely USELESS. This is because the stacks only last for 10 seconds, and they always run out before you can continue stacking or keep them active. Just watch your own video. You never even reach 100 stacks, let alone 200... haha. If the duration was around 30 seconds or 50, perhaps it would make more sense to use it. It would be interesting if there was any way to add the duration time, allowing for the creation of a build where this duration time can be amplified.

Yeh cool man, I’m going to try that today 😊

Leeann something new everyday! GG’z

i can ezy do 500-800k(crit) per shot with the apartment gun

Thanks for doing everything except showing the builds and the actual pieces. 🙃

I think you misunderstood what other RU-vidrs mentioning about backfire. lots of players don't like bleeding effect while shooting in group play so they suggested builds with hazard protection. if you play as group, its really hard to get full stack.

I use a strikers build with hazpro on all four pieces, 2pc ceska (one with hazard protection) and a couple bleed resist mods. at 200 backfire stacks the crits to the body are 1.3 million and theres no bleed at all

Nice!

Worst weapon in the game. CHAMELEONN HITS HARDER. And u don't lose stacks when out of combat.

For one I love the backfire but I like to build around it my one hazard build I have 54 chc and 162 chd with 90%hazard and one bleed mod for 100 so I do have upfront damage and run bloodsucker on backpack for bonus armour my other is with 20% armour on kill and 57chc 135chd so not bad

You always come out with some crazy builts. Im gonna have to give this one a try some time soon.

I have every Exotic I also have the Backfire but the thing about it whenever you use it will make you bleed I don’t know y it dose it instead of not effecting the enemies

I’ve tried so many builds with backfire, but in the end I destroyed for the comp. Only way that gun will ever be viable is if: 1. They double the damage on it 2. Remove bleed effect

Is the hunter fury any good i just want to be sure before i use it

Nobody lies, sorry mate u didn't show anything new,99% dont like bleed effect constantly red screen is just fuckin annoying, 4 pieces striker stack faster sokolow chest ,yahlll , 10 aok is enough when u know how to play,sorry is just another idiotic attempt to show of, Backfire has at least 5 great builds if u will

This is just a gimmick but for a high RoF shotgun have you tried Steady Handed for the authentic div1 Showstopper experience? If a shotgun can hit more tight at range then the low damage can be compensated i guess

Not bad, you just got a new subscriber👍🏾

Thanks for the clarification. I would have never considered this, because I am slow when it comes to number crunching. Thanks for the tip. Keep grinding my guy

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Hi, Very good video on the comparison of these two talents as powerful as each other. Vigilance is more popular because it doesn't need to be stacked however I prefer Unstoppable Force which can be maintained even if taking damage. I read in the comments that you prefer Close and Personal on shotguns I agree with you and for me the only one who deserves or would deserve to play with Pummel is the KSG because it has enormous firepower but very long to recharge. A lot of people put it in fast hand so that it reloads faster, but I prefer Pummel on a KSG.

Use protected reload chestpice

imagine after 1000 levels still not getting a scorpio lol...

Blurry ?

ARs should never be used with HF. Ever. Use Smgs or shotties with HF, never ARs. ARs are designed for mid to long range which defeats the purpose of HF. Striker and coyotes mask are WAY better for the Elmo’s than this. Significantly better

I love your build! I personally run 3-Striker, 1-Ninjabike, and the other two pure damage with unbreakable. I love the rate of fire the striker build has-- St. Elmos Engine goes from 850 to 956 rpms. Makes a difference how fast you melt the enemy.

I think Hunters Fury works better with Memento, Hunter killer chest with perfect intimidation, the bee's pistol, and Apartment submachine gun

Niiiice been looking for a different playstyle 😎

its not better vigilace give full buff from start UF u need 1st kill some enemies to get full potetial so befor u use full buff from UF fight will end

Have you tried this build with pummel or its perfect version? I wonder how it would do instead of close and personal. Keep up the content mate, much love from down under 👍

I can attest that AR's are good with Hunter's Fury despite of not receiving an Assault Rifle damage boost from the set since I run them on my Sparkfury loadout. Also, I can see St. Elmo's Engine being useful in a True Patriot loadout due to how it expands the Magazine size turning the AR into a more stable and accurate pseudo-LMG.