I think most (if not all) of the rail infrastructure were financed and built mainly by Russia. The Chinese are mainly involved in the section from Novi Sad to Subotica.
I‘m glad that Serbia finally invests in his railway. The only thing i never will understand is all around the project of the new Beograd Centar station, which i find a huge disaster and not conducive to increase the passengers using the railway. With 1,7 million inhabitants the passenger amount of Beograd Centar is 3‘000 per day…
Respect for reading up on history and not just telling he was a commie leader. My grandparents are also Jugo-Nostalgic, not so much because of socialism but because of the times they consider where better than what it is today. At least in Bosnia. People during that time didn't like Yugoslavia because of Socialism, but because of rule and order which not to often lacks in the troubled Balkans.
I'm Croat from that hole. Bosnia most prosperous period was when Austria ruled it. Only to say we do not support terrorist who killed prince and his pregnant wife.
Thanks for watching everyone! Check out my other videos from Moldova, including Pridnestrovie (Transnistria), as well as the continuation of this epic railway journey from Budapest to Berlin.
3rd world country... We hate that western expression in Serbia, I mean how many worlds there are really... Every country lives its own world, who we are to judge and impose our world to anyone? Who owns this planet? So called ''West''? No. China builds and develops, not interfere in politics of our country in any way, even contributes in important organisations like UNSC and others... That being said, entertaining and informative video. :) China treats Serbia as equal partner in business. Not demanding, and taking, like some others wannabe owners of the planet... I live ina county named the sam for over 1700 years. that can not be said for most of EU member states that teaches me to be ''european''. Like, wtf is wrong with those people I am Europe before most of them even existed as organized tribes LOL...
Of course you hate that expression, because you know it is true. The west doesn't own anything. It just has inventions, knowlegde, society, technology and status, which have btw taken centuries to develop, to offer. China and Russia are just illegal users of all that. Both countries are rigorous to sell propaganda, so does your government (SNS). They make you believe that prosperity is everywhere, and that they are the best, while meanwhile not showing you economic and social decay they are creating which is far worse from imaginable. And far worse that's actually visible innthe west. In the west all the problems are obvious and are publicly exposed. Because of that, you think the west is deteriorating while Russia and China are thriving. Of course they are not interfering with anything. Their mission is not making your society better for every Serb, which is going to benefit everyone in the longer term, but to take full advantage of your land and people, which has been sold to them for practically nothing and for only their own benefits. Their generous low interest rate loan is just for the high speed line from macedonian border to Hungarian border, because they will be massively benefiting and will be able to quickly transport the cargo from their port in Piraeus into Europe. What about the other conventional rails, what about cities outside NS and Belgrade. More than 60% of people live there. Who is going to develop that infrastructure? I can show you in what condition the tracks are in the rest of the country, be my guest and watch that if you dare: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UN3gLnOV4Gw.htmlsi=PhuFj4cghdRc9GYn Who is going to invest in agriculture? Who is going to invest in industry? Well I know for the fact that western companies are giving more jobs to serb people than any chinese or russian firm could ever give by now. They haven't built a single massive factory in Serbia yet. The problem is that for the EU, you have to first make your society functioning like a stable trustworthy country, no propaganda, low corruption, working and stable financial system, working law system, workers rights, agriculture development, building standards and you have to pay to the common funds. If you're underdeveloped you will receive more than you pay, but you'll have to comply to the rules. (And you get that money, no loans) But not just for a pompose 100 km of railway track, but for the every aspect of your society. Schools, infrastructure, companies, municipalities. Take your neighbor Romania for example. They entered EU in 2007, yes it took almost 20 years, but now they are one of the fastest developing countries in Europe, their SOCIETY has taken a huge step ahead. The only model of development that has worked by now is western, because its much harder and there are drastic changes to be done to improve, which can't be done overnight, but take years. That's sustainable other overnight crap you tend to believe into unfortunately isn't. Fast food shit they're selling to you is only going to make most of Serbian people poorer while the top 1% will have even more. Places where sharks benefit from will thrive the others will deteriorate even more. Salaries will mostly remain unworthy of a decent life. Therefore, only the countries who have complied to the western model have by now became developed nations, which can benefit every person from their society, those complying to the Russian or Chinese only became their poorer marionettes with the deluded decay of their society staying inside and others moving to the west. History speaks for itself. The last question. If everything is so great in Serbia and it's not the 3rd world country. Why are the educated and worldly people moving out? And not particularly moving out to China or Russia, but to the west. Because Russia and China offer what??? and actually developed west doesnt? Why do they all move to EU, Switzerland, Norway, USA, Canada, Australia, UAE? I mean no offense to you and congratulations on the great project. But I kindly suggest you look oudside the frames and see that larger picture.
Those definitions are so strange, because the original definition of these terms did not refer to the economy and development parameters, first world countries referred to countries that belonged to the US bloc, second world countries to countries in the USSR bloc, and third world countries to countries that were unaligned (which Yugoslavia was). But today those terms have somehow been transformed into parameters for the economy and development, so first world are super rich and developed countries, second world are those countries in the middle that are not super rich and super developed but not poor and underdeveloped either (Serbia belongs to this group) and third world are super poor and super underdeveloped countries. If he called China third world that is wrong on many levels since that country is world biggest economy.
Delay was due to technical problems. Unknown Idiots broke something important in Novi Beograd station, so trains have to reduce speed from 100km/h to 10km/h between Novi Beograd station and Tošin bunar station. Btw, now it's ok. They I've solved the problem
this train line is not secure if go to greece through north macedonia coz the two nations don't have a good relationship with each other, so the future is uncertain, the ideal route should be go to the seaside through montnegro instead, the latter has a stably tight relationship with serbia.
Here's one little addition: the most impresive and demanding part of the line: Čortanovci tunnel and viaduct, was constructed by Russia. I think they built more than half of the line to Novi Sad.
Fun fact - railroad Belgrade-Novi Sad is not Chinese built but Russian built,Chinese are building railroad from Novi Sad to Subotica ( practicaly Serbia-Hungary border ).It will be operational by the end of this year or till midlle of 2025.
@@RevolutionaryRoads1984He killed hundreds of thousands of Serbs during and after the WWII. He worked for jesuits who also financed comunists. He was a marxist and you should know that Marx wrote in one article that the Scots, Basques, Brits and Serbs should be exterminated because we slow the revolution. Tito is not a representative of our people- Churchill and Stalin implemented him , he was the church robber as a teenager and in WWI he was a member of " The devil's division"(Vražja divizija) who massacred the women and children in Serbia. He is actualy buried in Vatican. His dog is being buried in The house of flowers. He was being financed by USA to create revolutions all over the world and when the money stopped coming , the breaking of Yugoslavia started to emerge. No money - no Yugoslavia. We still have to repay Tito's debts.
Great video, very informative. I've always been fascinated by East Germany. I remember when I was 16, watching the skater Katarina Witt, at the winter Sarajevo 1984 Olympics. She won gold for East Germany in what was an epic moment in skating history. She was, at the time, the best in the world. And she's still around giving interviews, signing autographs. She said in an interview that skating is very expensive; her family could not afford it and that she would've never made it if it hadn't been for the system in East Germany which made it possible.
Thanks for sharing that memory. I'll be uploading a video next week about those 1984 Sarajevo Olympics, so I would be interested in getting your opinion on it when it comes out. About the East German social system, statements like that from Witt are so commonplace in the old GDR. People definitely tend to miss the access to sports, culture, art, etc. that wasn't restricted to them based on the ability to pay significant sums as it often is today.
@@RevolutionaryRoads1984 I lived during the Cold War years from the 70s onward and I remember that while there was a lot of animosity towards the Soviet Union and Eastern European countries, there was also a lot of respect. East Germany was the most advanced of all Soviet Bloc countries and there was always this fear and respect for East Germany. When the East German Olympic team was introduced it was always with respect and talk about how great these athletes were. Katarina Witt became the stuff of legend back then. Every young female skater in the world wanted to be Katarina. And then on the dark side was the story of the Stasi and how feared it was. Once, the wall separating East and West Germany collapsed and by extension East German socialist republic, the respect was gone literally overnight. And I think more important than socialism or whatever, what the East Germans really lost was respect. Just my observation from abroad. I think in life it's always great to be liked, but if this is not possible at least be respected.
Those two towers at 09:16... One of them was the building of Central Commitee of Communist Party of Yugoslavia. The other one was built couple of years ago.
@@RevolutionaryRoads1984 She was answering you in Serbian on this video. Pointing and saying in Serbian. Maybe she later realised and gave you answer in English. But we don't see that. Nisam član ni jedne partije nikad bio botino.
The woman was not booting you from first class, she was asking you to sit down since standing is not permitted while the train is moving. The drinks and snacks are also served in both first and second class. Cheers from Belgrade Serbia!
Ah, so me being booted from first class happened about two or three minutes before the clip where the woman you see tells me to sit down (she also spoke very good English), because I had made my way into the area by a door to film out of the window. So I promise it did actually happen :) haha
I had this same question. I remember seeing videos of it from about a year back looking very fresh. I was somewhat disappointed about not being able to properly check out the departure hall.
Train is this video is Stedlre KISS train, not the Chinese one. Most of the rail BG-NS was financed and built by Russia. From NS to border with Hungary the rail was build and finances by China.
well this Train is actualy a Swiss made one , China train will come on duty next Year or at end of 2024 until Serbian Railway finishing renouving the rail until Subotica ! and up at end of 2025 we`ll take a ride with "COKO ( SOKO)" to Budapest !
6:00 somebody who ordered those trains knew what good foldable tables are supposed to look like. I'm impressed. We don't have such technology here in Estonia.
If only he did! Seriously though, the point is that now Serbia has something that can be considered high speed, even if of course it pales in comparison to the speeds of some of those other trains.
You cant compare modern Serbia and time where we lived under Tito in Yugoslavia. Back then, we were truly indipendent and respeted country, both on east and west. Tito was clever leader ( some say dictator but only with iron hand you can keep order on Balkan, his death proves that) , who really know how to handle diplomacy and take advantage for our country. Now, we are small, corupted and not realy indipendent or respected country. We are in huge debt, becuse of that chinese do whatever they want , just like in Africa. For example, they got copper and gold mine for peanuts, they got free , first class land for their tyre factory ( in which they used basicly slave from some asian country, after arival they take passport from poor workers, workers was paid very little and iregulary, terible life condition in dorm... Only after some media forced news about that ,poor workers were realsed to go back home. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4TzFIa9LrHo.html In this video, press try to rescue one worker becuse they was forbiden to go out becuse of press . You can see there was legal police who do NOTHING , they just watch how chinese private security try to stop car with press and poor worker, one security said " You dont have warrant for this " . Warrant for save man from slavery and taking him to police station so he can legaly claim a charge against his employer, yeah right... So hold your horses when you speak positivly about chinese and our goverment.
Off course ,then was all domestically own and build but i dont agree about Chines,WHen US Steel operated in Smederevo they made huge debt in 10 years off one billion $ and just run away for us to pay it and during 10 years they did not invest nothing just run plant to the ground. Now biggest 3 exporters from Serbia are Chines companies and wages there are much higher then Serbian awerage .I guess you read to much west media when talking about Serbia
Very soon there is a high speed railway from Hungary border to Belgrade and in the near future it will come to Niš (Nais) born city of emperors Constantine!!! Yes, yes of course emperor's Constantine is Serbian dude yes, yes🤔🤫😒😎🤌You come with Stadler flirt 3 OMG!!!🥺🤪😂
In december 2024 they will open section of this HSR from Novi Sad to Hungarian border, and also new Fuxing chinese trains for 200 km/h were bought and will run on that section. After that one is completed, next year they will start upgrading for 200 km/h all the way south to Niš. That section to Niš will be mostly funded by EU funds, EU already allocated 600 million euros + some loans from EU banks. As for cureent train, you have 3 levels, IC-intersiti that go directly Belgrade-NS in 36 minutes (run by Stadler Kiss - nicknamed "Soko" aka "Falcon")and 2 regional that stop on basically all stations so they go from 46 to 59 minutes (run by Stadler Flirt trains).
Ok. This rail is just part of long high speed rail across whole Serbia, even outside of Serbia. Money is mostly from Serbia + small parts from Russia, Kuwait and EU funds. Rail was builded by chinese companies together with some austrian and serbian companies. From Budapest(Hungary) to the capital of southern Serbia, city of Niš(famous as Naissus in time of Roman and Byzantine empire). Part from Belgrade up to the hungarian border was finished and will be opnede for couple months. Part from Belgrade to Novi Sad alredy works, service SOKO cowers it. Hungarian part will be finished for 6+ months, i am not sure when exactly. This train is part of high speed trains fleet of Railways of Serbia, 8 trains. In future 10 trains. 3 STADLER KISS double_decker swiss trains(bought year of 2021.) + 5 high speed chinese CRRC trains(bought this year) + 2 STADLER KISS trains will arrive later. Name of high speed service is SOKO, it means HAWK on serbian. Also, Serbian Railways has: 35 STADLER FLIRT 2 trains, 160km per hour, swiss trains(bought 2017. i think or 2015. ???). 18 STADLER FLIRT 4 trains, 160km per hour(compared ot the 2 trains, main diference is diferent seats compoition, added USB plugs for all seats and added digital display-s for informations for passangers and as small train cinema(bought this year). 25 METRO VAGON DMU trains, russian trains, 120-160km per hour, non electric diesel trains(2015.).
Wild scrap metal collectors have stolen 50 meters of control cables in Belgrade. We all know who I’m talking about. As a result, every train is now running 7 minutes late. Repairs are underway.
@@TIR_ANA Well-known groups that repeat offenses. Unfortunately, the penalties are small and only cover the material value of what was stolen, which in this case is a few hundred euros. The real damage is immeasurable.
No, this is just part of long rail across whole Serbia. Rail will be finished for 2 years. Part Belgrade-hungarian border was finished alredy. Part hungarian border-Budapest will be finished for 6+ months. Part Belgrade-Niš(capital of southern Serbia) will be finished for 2 years. Under constrution at the moment.
Serbia is a small country, we do not need 350km per hour trains, 200km per hour is more then enough. Average speed before new rails is something like 50km per hours.
@@RevolutionaryRoads1984 this is just a beginn in next step this railway will be shifted up to 250Km/h and this is enough it will meen that you`ll need about 50minutes from Beograd to Subotica and not moore than 2:30 h to Budapest you can imagen how long it can take to Vienna , i think , not moore than 4,30h!
China gives best credit lines to finance the project, with conditions that chinese company's with Chinese workers technology will do the job. And they are doing it very well and fast! Of course Serbia is paying for everything!
