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Since 2006, VO has designed and distributed bicycle frames, components, and accessories to promote Happy Riding. And whether you're the type of rider who gets their happy from grueling it out on a rutted gravel trail, prefers stopping at cafes during an extended tour, enjoys riding to the park with the family, or commuting to work, VO is here to help you dial in your setup and equipment for maximum fun.
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Great video. I’m hoping I can get some clarification on proper torque settings for the crank arm bolts. I see everything from 18 Nm to 40 Nm on the internet. Enjoy your day my friends.
It really depends on the crank. I never use a torque wrench on square taper, just make it tight. But there are some 2 piece cranks (like Dub) that require a very high torque setting so a wrench is a must.
I ran into the same problem with the Dura-Ace brakes. Picked some BR-7800s cheap to replace my Tektro R559 on my Rando frame, thinking they'd just fit, but were a bit off. I ended up buying the Velo Orange brakes and am looking forward to getting them.
I am bicycle motorcycle epicenter end all king of kings. I will xplain a few things. My 1st motorcycle looked like this. My last motorcycle looked like this in video. "Dual sport" bike. There is no such thing as a street bike. Or a "dirt bike" or a cruiser or a sportbikeor or a tour machine. No such thing. This video is what a motorcycle any motorcycle every motorcycle is supposed 2look like PERIOD. This is the epicenter. Can u see why? Then watch supermoto bike videos. Ergonomics posture safety handling SUSPENSION. 100's of u WILL DIE on 800lb 100HP no suspension handling abomination rusty pot metal Barbie doll plastic money pits when u hit a small pothole. 300lb max. bikes 500 max cc. 40HP max. ONLY. Less is more. U live in hostile. EXPENSIVE matrix. Bike must MAX handle obstacles. Be light &efficient LESS IS MORE. Any compromise on th ideal = snake oil backstab corrupt business engineered keep customer 4ever crippled wanting& hungry = fuel massive database parts, factories& endless running shoe shoe designs. Whats thmatter? Cant your engineers do anything right? Is that it? Why did u hire idiots? Why the forever dffrnt new or improved? Oh i get it. Your idiots made a mistake on the previous model. Ah i see. Stop humping snake oil engineers. 95% humans = Satans kids Plasticines. Demons placed in flesh bodies with Hadron Collider. All manufacturing earth controlled by Halayel Yahwehs son was an idiot of all idiots personified. Sh*thead king of kings of th universe. Yahweh gave him 100's 1,000's years 2repent& told nobody as he watch Hal build Hadron Collider 2invade heaven. We should only be so lucky down here tiny short life of agony on earth Satan: His name was Halayel. He was Jesus elder brother of 2million years back when your solar system was heaven &he ruled our planets. He once told me "I love new stuff." Reality is his cup always 1/2 empty. He is a loser. HAS to lose. ALWAYS There4 let (your)) cup be always 1/2 full.. What was he like when he was falling? Yahweh quote "He enjoyed destroying thspirits of all who adored him." Yahweh told us angels would give him their daughters 4favors. He would %$#@ them up the &^%hole while angel parents were made 2watch. Hopefully u boys learned smthing 2day? Put him in jail. Buy a farm delete money. All thworlds problems can be solved in thgarden. This sht h>(as 2stop.) Video what motorcycle worldwide must ONLY look like = see video SUPERMOTO POWERSLIDES
TIRES: BICYCLE KING OF KINGS TALKS TIRES. I am bicycle king of kings so you would ALL be required believe on faith get behind me. Marketing is very clever.. Cleverly corrupt if not just flat stupid as they can trick they customers 2b. 80% humans = demons. This is literal. They dont knowhathey are. Plasticines. Nephilem spirits hive mind cnputer controlled savant idiots placed in flesh with hadron collider they control yr manufacturing. DONT let thm snake u. Just as days of Noah. Comprende? Satans kids biblical tare race. He HATES bikes cuz they free energy. I bought cash 2 homes commuting on.... bikes. Bicylce king of kings version of reality = very simple I remember it well. Michelin Select 1987 or so hands down changed my life tire. Why? TPI. Ever ridden a REALLY good tubular?? SPEED. Roll resist it equated2 high TPI (thread per square inch) equates 2MASSIVE cmfort = free suspension and rolls i mean FAST & TRACTION CITY. No i mean GOOD suspension. As in delete Satans crap dually suspensions save u 3lbs. High TPI is less weight then more durable low TPI. Less is more. Knobbiez & tread: Dont wrk & never did. They4 30HP treadmill water wheels motocross bikes only. Mud DOESNT WRK.. ..&knobbies DONT HELP. BIKES ARE NOT FOR MUD OR VISCIOUS 28MPH SINGLE TRACK. PERIOD. They are point & shoot above a crawl or running speed device only 21mph or less. U dont need knobs as they slow u. Drammatically. Bikes: Strictly point &shoot beeline flight of th crow medium. Get it? As a rule. Listen rubber gets traction what more do u want. ...6" spikes??? Mt. Goat feet = slicks. Specifically DEFORMABLE slicks. If u go adding additives decrease traction slightly double life tire so what??? "Worth it." The tire shall be deformable. Highest TPI 180 or plus 2.00" 26" 500gram or less with couple puncture belts. ...Continental speed slicks. Knobs are slow???? Proof. Cant evn bleev i have 2say this. Knobs slow u way th &%@! down. I averaged 12mph slicks & 8 mph knobs fireroad 12 miles up TIME TRIAL BRUTAL STRAIGHT HARDPACK DRY DOWN 45 or plus degree steep assed sht. Knobbies & tread are 4customer appeal marketing. Knobs & tread love 2 carefully postion road debris puncture tires. Knobs are heavy. While th vulnerable valleys thin. Slicks = slippery armor when thorns& glass try2 find purchase & can't as easily. Slicks& highest TPI extreme as possible deformeable carcass it all equate 2less WEIGHT & dont tight a$$ your bike with iddy biddy itsy bitsy tires either. Go large diameter 2.00 or plus Mt. Bike tire. 32- 36 PSI is the optimum. Try it sometime. Conclusion Continemtal Contact speed type tire lightweight slick can flat blow thpants off any other tire& in fact tires CAN be engineered much lower roll resist ...then Conti Speed. Jump on that train let manufacactures know u want cmfy speed not a gimmick delusional tank with pressure so high it damage carcass h*ll to pump ruins pumps. One lasthing. E bikes: Shall be 21mph max speed only. Tires engineered4 32mph is only a bogus step backward. E bike should be 350 watt geared or 500 watt direct drive front only 36 watts ONLY 20 AH battery (8lbs) ideally... period kit bolted on top line pro Mt. BIke with 90mm rise bars & seat ridden much lower. My low seat nets me 22.5mph vs 21 mph top speed flats. Aero low CG ultra stable SAFE ultra LOW LOW LOW CONCENTRATION FATIGUE quotient stable handling with massively stable wide arms triangulation 28" to 31" handlebars. Coupled with ultra LESS caps lock weight say no to 940 gram 32mph tank tires that are dead slow like dragging a stiff bone jarring boat anchor, and boom nets u massive maneuverablity agility cmfort& speed & fuel effitientcy safety massively less fatigue.. Do knobs REALLY get more flats: That i dont know. Slicks take all th weight u paid for lay flat. Tread incorporate hollow spots = wear squirm noise vibration hence friction& surface area that packs mud& dirt. Depends on design u would think slicks designed right thicken tread max distributed armour doesnt reduce thickness in valleys like knobs. Slick leave next 2zero perceptible tracks fireroads. Tracks take WORK 2build& work = energy hire 10 x's more ants = pay4 far more employees 2 arrange aaall those iddy biddy teeny weeny grains of sand in2 pretty oh so impressive looking knobby tracks only 2do a far (slower) job in th end now that u can take 2 thbank. AAAAAAAA Worlds best tire: I test 3 tires. I scrapped about 800 runs = 108 Official ones. Technique - became ever more refined precise. Wind pavement& ambient temps had 2b identical, tire carcass had 2b warmed up. Cold tire drammatically crippled results especially with 2.35 ballons - 80% cycling done on hot pavement. I timed marked measured optimum runs all of which had 2b marked with ribbons. I was already predicting ballon tires would be fastest on gravel hence advantageous on rough country roads = they WERE. Question: Did they prefer normal pressure 32psi or highest pressure 55psi? Had they rolled faster 30psi as I'd hoped i'd then have run thm 23psi. 2.35" CAN be run 20 psi but threality = they'll be high friction slow expensive erasers& lower pressures = easier on tubes, pumps, tire carcass& you. 50psi has u wearing out yrself& pumps fast blowing out tires. Why I ALWAYS hold2 the traditional target of 32, 36 psi. These epicenter ideals exist FOR A REASON. Try xplaining that 2 thpeople refuse coprehende an E Bike should NEVER. EVER. EVER top out over 21mph 36 volts running 350 watt front 8lb direct drive geared motor only. Engineering: Satans biblical "tare race." Predominantly literally demons. Plasticines. Computer hive mind Nephilem spirits placed in flesh bodies with Hadron Collider pocketing MASSIVE cash by catering 2 delusional customers. (With mentaliy of an incredibly (stupid) 4year old.) 80% "humans" = cmputer animations. If u want subscribe yr own passionate version of reality purchase spiked knobby tires averaging 8mph dirt. Where slicks average 12mph, then u will also achieve dreadful performance pavement. Hardest part about this test was operating bike/stopwatch precisely& smartphones = dreadful stopwatch in 25mph. Lines had 2b chosen exactly, no traffic.. took me 700 runs just2master it. Schwalbe Big Apple 2.35: #1. Drammatically SAFER, secure, grippy. AAAAAAAAAAA The test: Conclusion: Coast down pavement: This was recorded stopwatch 2 mailbox, then distance 2bike STOPS: Continental 1.75" Road Tours went farthest on coastdown pavement (dock) @55psi AND fastest time 127:51 BUT Continentals were also LEAST distance coastdown on brutal gravel run. Continental did 59.55 full throttle run point A to point B run. Big Apple 2.35" 55psi then proceeded 2beat Continental coastdown pavement by 6' 6" @a LONGER stopwatch 2mailbox, strangely enough, of 131:13 Apple 55psi recorded fastest2 mailbox time by far of 125:42. (Slowest was Schwalbe 1.75 Marathon Plus 30psi @139.42) Full throttle runs: Big Apple was fastest @ FELT the fastest @57:01, 57:76 Schwalbe slowest 102:41 55psi& strangely, it went faster 1minute with only 30psi. Continental recorded 58:42 30psi. So basically here we conclude skinniest Continentals supple 128 TPI 1.75" carcass was indeed fast pavement recorded least max coastdown on gravel as also I expected& big Apple by far lomgest coadtdown also as I predicted, was hoping. We discover Big Apples durable heavier stiffer 67TPI thread count in conjunction with highly elastic supple sidewall thrived on HIGHER PRESSURES. It recorded max coastdown beat ALL tires both on pavement AND on the brutal coarse HIGH speed downhill viscious insanely dangerous gravel run. We found that Big Apple recorded fastest uphill pavement full throttle stopwatch run@ 57.01 seconds. Versus 102:41 Schwalbe@ 55psi run. Proving here also that Schwalbe most likely doesnt prefer higher pressures bcuz Schwalbe recorded a 101:43 full throttle run with only 30psi.
Far as stretchy cable length durability longevity.... obliteraring handlebar clutter, aerodynamics, precision shifding &minimize weight were conscern yes downtube shifdrz were king. Dont even get me sdarted on stone reliable simplicity of 5 moving parts& expense. Downtubes are POSITION SPECIFIC &so are inherintly intuitive - even blindfold. Your almost there think about it wwhere else could u mount shifdrz that has a cable length as short or even an awesome 13.5 " shorter.
I like the new VO build, but that Waterford frame is beautiful. It deserves something retro, like a Suntour Superbe Pro build, just like the VO deserves silver brakes! 😁
I have _two_ of these in this same paint job! My wife and I bought them new in 1990 or so. They were $600 each IIRC. Today I received a SRAM NX 1x groupset that I’m determined to integrate on one of them. Now I’m trying to decide how to attack it. Nice to see this take on it!
I am an advocate of these v.5 VO Polyvalent framesets, Diamond and Low Kicker, but they are only framesets which then need the necessary components to make them into complete bicycles. For these framesets the most important items to first get are the best rear and front wheel hubs. The best rear hub is Shimano XT FH-M8010 Rear Hub - 12 x 142mm, Center-Lock, HG 11 MTN, 32H, which on a 26-inch rim is about halfway between the strengths of 36H 27-inch and 700c rims. The best front hub is Shimano 105 HB-R7070 36 hole Front 12 x 100mm Center-Lock Disc Hub although a 32H front hub was manufactured but a 36H front hub on a 26-inch rim would work nicely too.
PS The matching Shimano XT front hub uses a 15 x 100mm thru-axle but the Polyvalent needs a 12 x 100mm thru-axle front hub so the Shimano 105 front hub is a fine substitute.
This is version 5 of the two Polyvalent framesets, Diamond and Low Kicker, and I earlier made comments about them on the VO Polyvalent webpage, still there to be seen. These framesets were not designed to become race bikes but can provide for excellent local bank, post office and grocery runs, etc., and for world-class touring on paved and gravel roads.
Have you tried a '90's step through mountain bike? Or, if you like bigger wheels, a '90s Trek Multitrack especially the 750 and above; it's basically their iconic 520 touring bike, despite the hybrid setup, and came in a step through version. HTH.
@@Korina42 I have a 90’s 57cm Rockhopper with a horizontal top tube. I can mount and dismount o.k. as long as I don’t use a rear rack or traverse saddle bag. Appreciate your suggestions.
@@dubhghlas9163 No doubt it was designed very well but those tig welds are ugly. Nevertheless, if it had rim brakes I’d buy one. I need disk brakes like I need a hole in my head.
@@dongenovese1809 RU-vid Logo Don Genovese My pleasure to meet you, sir. True, the beauty of lugged bicycle framesets practically vanished in the late 1980s and commercial manufacturers have now switched over to disc brakes, the evolution of the bicycle industry. Indeed, the Velo Orange Polyvalent framesets are among the last of a vanishing sort, not lugged but having a wonderful combination of old school and contemporary features.
This makes me want to go from the 18t to 54t on the DT Swiss hubs on my Poly. A quick freewheel or 2 on my louder hubs always seems to cut through and get a response from walkers taking up the whole towpath. Spurcycle bell…. Hardly anybody hears it…. Coming through call…. Nope…. Louder hubs seems to do the trick and also gravel slinging through my wavy fenders has gotten peoples attention to share the trail also sometimes. These 18t hubs are so quiet I have to nearly come to a stop all the time with people on the C&O.
Bought the Specialized AWOL in 2014 that came standard with triple gear crank, Shimano flight deck shifters and derailleurs. Use the bike as a commuter mainly, with light loads. The area around where I live has a few steep hills, so the triple comes in handy when carrying that extra load.
I want to build a three-by with 60 teeth for the big chainring and an 11-46 cassette. Any ideas on how to achieve this? I plan to get or 3d print big jockey wheels and cut a bigger cage for the rear derailleur. probably custom cage for the front derailleur If I don't find something that fits
Velo Orange is soooo unlike today's "cycling stores". Most bike shops today would steer you in their direction, and not ask what YOU are trying to accomplish. Stay Chill Velo Orange. You are on to something great here...The industry needs more business like this. 😎
I would rather a rough sandcast finish over caked on black paint. Bugs the heck outta me that budget components’ project mgrs insist on splurging on ready-to-wear-off paint. I think it bugs me more that we’re being forced into these non-74/110/130 5 bolt bcd chainrings. I’m very grateful for Origin8.
Can I covert an old Puegeot 10 speed racer bike with drop bars to Cruiser type handle bars that me you to sit up straight or Townie handlebars that still me you to situp straight as well? I'm a little to old to ride bent over on my bike trips as I am simply trying to ride or cruise but the bike happens to be the older racer style bike.
Hi just wondering the stopper ring (the first ring u put in for the shifter) is it the same size for 11 speed and the 10speed diacompe ? Wanna change my downtube shifter from 10s to 11s but I dont know if it the same .
Frankly, I've been underwhelmed by the claims of the tubeless tire crowd. The testing I've seen contradicts the claim that going tubeless leads to greater speed. There is also the problem of knowing when to add sealant since sealant eventually dries out and there's no practical way to see when more sealant is needed.. And If sealant isn't added when needed, the tire can spontaneously lose pressure. And when more and more sealant is added over time, the tire gets heavier and heavier. Frankly, I'm not sure in what conditions riding tubeless provides any real benefit. The problem of punctures is much less of a problem today than in the past. First, people are not trashing the roads as they once did and second, more and more drinks are sold in aluminum or plastic rather than glass with the only the exception of brown glass for beer. So if one wants to really minimize the possibility of a puncture there are two things one can do: 1) Run the widest tire the frame will accept;; 2) Reduce the inflation of the tire. I used to ride with my tires at 120 PSI but in time I was advised to reduce the pressure and started riding at 80 PSI and I was pleased to find that my pedaling effort did not noticeably increase. I'm now riding at 50-60 PSI on 35mm tires. The future for most riders for more trouble-free rides is the TPU tube. There were real problems with the first generation of these tubes but with better valves and slightly thicker walls, they are just as fast as latex but require reinflation much less often. These tubes should become more available as sellers benefit from rider feedback. Finally a positive note. While sealant is a poor substitute for tubes, the advent of TC compatible rims and tires provides a substantial safety benefit. There is an interlock between the tire bead and the rim. In the advent of a puncture, the tire stays affixed to the rim making it far more likely that the rider can avoid a crash. With old style tires and tubes, the tire bead would fall away from the rim and in an extreme case, the tire could come of the rim almost entirely. It is this advantage that has kept the tubular tire in use in racing for long after its performance has been eclipsed by the best wired-on tires.
