Daniel Wiffen broke the 800m short course record in December. That was set in 2008, also in the banned swimsuits. So the long course record from 2009 could go at this year's Olympics
It’s gonna be close as hell but I think Caeleb Dressel and Josh Liendo are the most likely going sub 50… I think the top 3 will include Dressel, Liendo, and Ponti. We really can’t say until Dressel swims at trials to see but I think with that back half speed he’s been working on he could go sub 50 at trials or Paris idk though
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But don't you think his coach is right? I mean he missed 32 out 38 training sessions. That is pretty bleak for an Olympic champion, where all these other guys like Lienodo or Dressel are putting in the miles to win olympic gold
@@swimmerabs22 as a coach myslef, sure if that is the case. But I wouldn't be advertising it to his competitors. But his sets are some of the more consistently insane sets I have ever seen. And the efficacy is questionable of such consistently punishing volume and intensity.
@@swimmerabs22 There is no proof that he wasn't training at all, it just the media reporting he missed trainings with his coaching team. There were rumours in Hungarian media that he was training at a different pool, and the he even went to Australia. No one knows what is the real truth but judging from his times it is hard to believe he missed so many trainings.
Liu's record is ridiculous and added by doping. She went from 2:07.7 to 2:04.1 in the same year when she won Olympic Gold in Beijing. That kind of drop just doesn't happen in a few months. And the 2:01.81 was at the Chinese National Games. Fraud - and it's obvious.
Based on the results, I have to believe he has been training. Maybe someone feels he's not working hard enough, and that's been exaggerated into saying he's skipping training entirely. Or, maybe things have gotten so rocky with his coach that he's training on his own. Regardless, the way his coach constantly badmouths him to the press seems terrible to me, even if it is true. I hope it is some 4D chess that Milak's bought into. Otherwise it just sets him up to be hated regardless of his Paris results. No gold, people will say he threw away his talent and the hopes of his country. Two golds, and he's undeserving because he didn't work for it, and just imagine how much better he could been. One gold, and people will say both at the same time.
just some feedback for this series: For the WRs that last a long time, you should talk about people who came closest to those marks and the times that won major finals in that period (you've already started to do the latter). that would help contextualise just how untouchable or elusive a wr is. mary t's 2:05.96 was only briefly mentioned before moving on to susie o'neill's wr, but more time could be spent talking about the 1981-2000 period. The highlights of the 80s are mary t coming within a second of it at the 1984 olympics (2:06.90) before scaring the wr at the 1985 and 1986 us nationals (2:06.09, 2:06.39), and Cornelia Polit becoming the second fastest performer at the 1983 euros (2:07.82). all other major finals were won in 2:08-2:09. for the 90s, polit maintained her #2 status until liu limin and Yun Qu went 2:07.25 and 2:07.42 respectively at the 1994 worlds. liu went 2:06.77 at the asians games a month later. (all 3 swimmers have asterisks ofc). then talk about o'neill's trajectory, from her becoming #3 performer in 1995 (2:07.29), winning her olympic and world titles in 2:07 high, moving up to #2 at the 1998 commonwealth games (2:06.60), going 2:06.53 at the 1999 pan pac semis before falling short again, then finally breaking the wr in 2000. this could also be done for people who come close to a wr but fall short. when you get around to doing the m100 free, the video would be greatly improved by following this format during the 2010-2022 period.
of the m800 free, w200 fly and m200 back, I think the 800 is most likely to fall. percentage wise, the top 5 from the 800 final last year were all closer to the wr than mcintosh or kos were in their events. even with martens dropping the event and hafnaoui's form being questionable, we still have a 7:37, 38 and 39. Kos is the furthest away and is in an event with less depth.
If you compare the 2nd fastest man ever, Michael Phelps, with his fastest non-supersuit time, 1:52.09, there's a 1.75 sec gap between him and Milak's WR. If you add 1.75 sec to Zige's 2:01.81, you get 2:03.56. Regan Smith's already been 2:03.87, and that was months ago. I'm pretty sure she has a 2:03 low in her.
It's fast, but not so fast. The men's world record is 1:50.34, Kristof Milak. His 100m butterfly PB is 49.68. For 200m, that a 55.17 per 100m average or 5.49 secs more than his 100m PB. Liu Zige had a PB of 56.06 for 100m butterly. Add 5.49 sec to that, and you get a 61.55 average, or a 2:03.10 - so she did 1.29 sec faster than her male counterpart, but that's pretty much always to be expected the larger the distance being swum. Also, Zige had the benefit of using a supersuit, which helps with buoyancy in the longer distances. Don't get me wrong, it's fast, but given the givens - not SO fast.
Super suit was in during 2008-2009(2010) ,any WR set by a swimmer who wore it within this time window is subject to differentiation. It partially explains why those WRs are too tough to break.
Loving the historical look back portions of these videos. I’d be super interested in a history of competitive swimming vid-how gear and training techniques changed over decades. I can’t imagine swimming without a cap and goggles.
Those more historical sections are becoming my favorite parts to write as well, its fun to have an excuse to dive into the more obscure parts of the sport's history.
Interestingly, Zhang went 3:41.35 in the 400 but only 14:54.23 in the 1500 at the 2009 world champs, despite going 7:32.12 in the 800. Something must've went seriously wrong in the 1500. His pb in the 1500 is 14:45.84 from the 2008 olympics in the heats. In 2012, *Sun Yang could have gotten really close to the 800 world record if it was an olympic event at the time. He swam 3:40.14 in the 400 and 14:31.02 in the 1500. Both of these times were faster than Hafnaoui's times or anybody else's times, except for Thorpe in the 400 in a textile suit. It's crazy how far away the 800 world record is, when swimmers today are knocking on the door of the 400 and 1500 world records.
Sun Yang was doping for one and three swimmers have come within a second of it in the last couple of years so I expect the 1500m WR to get challenged in Paris.
Is anyone surprised? Chinese are always doped up, this one and women's 200 fly so tough to break bc they were most likely drugged up whether they knew it or not.
Kind of boring ones, but i think you should do world record progessions of the 50 free and 200 IM, i think they are both going to be broken in paris so it would he cool to see how they got to where they are and who will break them again
I remember watching Kieran Perkins break the WR in 1992 at the NSW state championships. Amazing that the current WR is almost 15s faster than that now.
It might be one of the hardest WRs for everyone other than Marchand himself. I strongly believe Marchand will break his own WR at least once or twice more in his career
@@supr1423 for sure, but I just feel he went as fast he will ever go, last year, both in short course and long course. I do hope he proves me wrong though
So when we win it’s all good and when Chinese wins then there is doping, don’t be a sore loser, and as for doping agency, do a better job, be clear and be firm
