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I agree with all of that.

You are not the first person to comment about it. I think that you might have to remember that every detail the manufacturer does adds $1000 of dollars to the price. This is a budget RV. In fact, I like to think of it as a kit for people who are interested in doing lots of stuff to it. If you look at small RV with lavatories in the bathroom, you will see an enormous difference in price. Not only that but, in my mind, there is little difference in having the sink in the bathroom, or three feet away. I also have to point out that there is hardly enough room in the bathroom to do what need to be done. I can't imagine having a lavatory in there too. My wife and I also use the shower head to wash our hands in the bathroom, all the time. Thanks for your comment.

I can see that being true.

That is interesting. I will check that out.

Just bought the 17B… no tv included or Radio. Interesting.

​@@Kimmcgowen5 Did they give a reason?

Thank you. Many people were not so lucky. Check out "Valley View Texas Tornado"

True. Thanks for the comment. 3 minutes and 55 seconds about us. Absolutely nothing.

I lost a little weight, but I shaved off my mustache. It makes my face look thinner.

Do you mean that the TV can play to the speakers? That would be cool.

Yes, that is the down side to this. The Dinette does actually make a good bed, but since there are two bunk beds. We made the choice to see which we liked. To be honest we haven't had the chance to try to out enough to say for sure.

@@funinourrv good deal

I can imagine that.

Yes it does, but why? There are just two speakers in the RV. The year after this they simply gave a Bluetooth speaker to everyone. I think that they quit even doing this the next year. RV Storage space is in short supply. Why take out a chunk of it for a radio. Couldn't they have just mounted the radio UNDER the cabinet?

It really does give us a noticeable amount of floor space.

It isn't "waterproof". Very few things are. It is covered by the plastic box, but the bottom of it is open. The buss bars under your RV are completely waterproof. Neither are electrical connections under your hood. Water gets everywhere. It is no big deal. Yes. I think there is an inline fuse.

Here are the details about the battery cutoff switch. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-q9tz-awZnII.html

We have done something like 15 trips and thousands of miles. A few or our trips have been over 2000 miles each. I have to say that it is holding up well. No major problems. There were a couple of minor trim issues, but the dealership fixed them right away. After two years, if I was starting over, the only thing I would do differently would be to get the 17R instead of the 17B. Having said that, our recent modification of moving the dinette seat looks like it might accomplish the same thing, but we haven't tried it out yet. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RWmdLUmEkrg.html

Sorry to hear that. I just looked on Amazon and saw several that do come with such stuff. Here are the Jacks I got. Everything you need for $69. www.amazon.com/Trailer-Stabilizer-Leveling-mounting-Hardware/dp/B00M6D4QFY?ref_=ast_sto_dp

Thanks for your comment. We have two videos on the 17B compared to the 17R. For just two people, the 17r might be better. If we had it to do over, we would get the 17r. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mC6LCIveBoc.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bA5KswgjjIY.html

and it is gas only

Ours is LP too. The photo might be misleading, but I connected 4 wires. my two switches were identical except for the color. Someone suggested to me that the best thing to do in situations like this is to take a photo of the old switch before you disconnect it. unfortunately, if i understand you correctly you are installing a new switch where there wasn't one. I don't know how to advise you on that. Your heater might not be set up to turn off the light once the gas lights. I don't know how that might work for you.

Thanks for your comment. The Radio that came with my camper had Blue Tooth. One of my biggest issues with the radio was the cabinet space it took up. RVs have so little storage space to begin with. The 17b only costs around $13,900. It is what you are comfortable with. Everything is a compromise. I like the space with the 17b compared to a 13 footer. You be the one to tell my wife to use, a Cassette. She wants full hookups now. My wife and I van or topper camped many years. It worked OK. But we are not doing that again. I don't know for sure, but I would bet that the Scamp or the Taylor doesn't come with a spare tire, or tongue jack etc. We love our 17B. It is a palace compared to what we have had in the past, but we are already looking at buying a 25ft Forest River Surveyor.

I haven't done it yet, but I will use clear silicone. The holes are tiny so it should work well and the grey of the silicone should blend in.

Thank You very much I never would have thought of that. Have a great day and a wonderful weekend

I am glad you like it. I have to say, it isn't difficult at all. You can spend more time and money, but a 17b it is a cheap RV. If you want more instructions, I suggest you check out the Camping Loop video on it. He has a little more step by step than I do, but he had some construction issues with his RV to fix.

@@funinourrv thanks for the encouragement I think I will I can at least get started and see how far I get

As I mentioned briefly on the video, the hardest part is removing the "Quadrex" screws. A real Quadrex screw driver would help, but the screws are sometimes in a odd angle that makes it had to get a good hold on them. A Phillips just slips out. Other then that, it is easy.

@@funinourrv thanks for giving me the name of that screw so when I go to the store I can know what to ask for 👍😀

Some people refer to it as a "Combination Square and Phillips. Actually it is a combination "Phillips and Robertson" screw driver.

These are great questions. Thanks for asking! I just did this three days ago. I am thinking about putting a little silicone in the holes in the floor. I might get some grey caulk to do this, but regular clear silicone might work just as well, if not better. To be truthful, the three holes are so small I am not in a big hurry yet to do anything. First I secured the bench into the new position by screwing it to the bench that was not moved. I figured that if it was sturdy enough, already . I also screwed it to the floor. I did not find studs to use. In fact they are hard to locate on an RV. I used screws that would for sure go into the wall, but short enough that there was no chance it would touch the outside wall. I am guessing that this would be a bad thing to happen. By the time it was attached to the other bench and the floor, it felt pretty solid, even though it only had four screws attaching it to the wall. (Three in the top piece and one in the vertical piece.) I hope this helps. Please feel free to ask more questions.

@funinourrv thanks for the answers! I have used clear silicone in my house, I think it would work just fine. As long as there's no kids bouncing around on the relocated bench, screwing it into the wall might not be necessary.

@@RockinTUtah I agree.

@funinourrv Another quick question; did you pre-drill the holes for the piano hinges to prevent the wood from splitting? Is it even necessary?

Yes. I pre-drilled every hole. If you look closely you might see a moment when I am doing that. I am a firm believer in pre-drilling especially when dealing with cabinets and cheap wood. Always pre-drill.

That is a good idea.

Yes. I was always doing the backing, or pulling away, and my wife was doing the connecting or lifting the tongue off the hitch. For that reason I told her that I didn't really see a need for the power jack. My wife disagreed. We got the jack.

If you are asking about the bedspread, like virtually everything else, it came from Amazon.

Thanks for your comment. I typically don't do product links because virtually EVERYTHING we get is from Amazon, and they change their links often. If we do get something that isn't from Amazon, then was just purchased at Harbor Freight or Walmart.

Do you recommend this unit? - Yes. If you are comfortable with the idea that this is a "kit" and you will save $1000s by doing the work yourself. We found a Jayco 17bh for $2000.00 more. It depends upon what you mean by "More". Coleman 17Bs can be purchased for a little over $12K to over $15K. We’re retired and realize it’s just for sleeping and eating. - If it is really just for the two of you, i highlu recommend getting a 17R instead. - Yes, the fireplace is the only heating, but we have found it to be adequate if plugged into service. - The Refrigerator will run for about a day on the battery. I don't think the heater will run on the battery. The separate freezer on the fridge will hold three ice cube trays. Check out our videos on the 17R, and the upgrades we have made. We have not spent a great deal of money on upgrades. half of them are things you will need to get even if you bought the Jayco. (Spare tire, power tongue jack, front stabilizers, mirror, mattress, vent covers, etc.) Remember, the dealer will offer you a good deal, perhaps cheaper, and then try to add $1000 in extras you don't need. Compare sales contracts, very carefully..

I agree. I completely forgot that I hadn't painted both sides, until I lifted it up.

Yes it does. I had the TV right up next to the ceiling. Today, I also dropped it down 6-7 inches. Now we don't have to look UP near as much.

Did you have much wind today? i have found that wind and sun on the beach will help some. But when we were there no amount of wind would keep them off. It was unbelievable.

Thank you! Comments like yours are why we do it.

I will guess that it might be an issue, but we haven't had a real problem. I can imagine it not wanting to turn easilly IF you set the bar really tight. The theory is that you want the trailer to not want to easily sway. You are not trying to make it stiff and unable to turn. When we first got it, I set the bar so you could feel, and hear it slide. We quickly readjusted it and haven't had any problems. Thanks for the question. I hope this answer helps.

What a very interesting idea. You could use a Sharkbite, push on, PEX valve and make those hoses do whatever you wanted. Thanks for your comment.

That's true. Thanks for your comments.

They also don't come with spare tires.

I have seen several RVs that don't have it. Having said that, many people are advocating putting a PVC pipe on the bottom for the stinking Slinky. I think it is probably a good idea.

I know! They are unbelievably heavy and unwieldy.. If you open it upside down, it is tough.

Thank you for the question/comment. You are not the first person ask about links to the things I buy. There are several reasons why I typically do not include links. 1. Virtually ALL of the things I buy, I get from Amazon. I almost never buy from a company not on Amazon. 2. If it wasn’t from Amazon, it was probably at Lowe’s, Home Depot, or Harbor Freight. 3. Amazon links change often. Our videos will sometimes last for years. 4. Amazon sellers constantly change their product or price, or even the colors they offer. Doing so generates a new and different link. 5. Amazon will often have dozens of the same device or product. By Googling it, you might find the same item for less then I paid for it. A good example of that is battery cutoff switch. There are many to choose from. 6. Some manufacturers will upgrade their products yearly. (A good example of that would be the combination RV door locks.)

Just wondering which brand of shower head u use.

I don't know. We get almost everything from Amazon. If i find it, I will post it here. Thanks for the question. I think it was called GMG or Genmaigou.

Thanks for the question. We get almost everything from Amazon. I think it was called GMG or GEMAIGOU.

It is such a small space that I never thought much about it. I googled the question and found several places that list it at 8000 btus. Does that help you? www.rvusa.com/rv-guide/2024-dutchmen-coleman-17b-travel-trailer-specs-tr64098

-Thank you for your great comments. We agree with you all the way…sort of. What I mean is, we tried to make it better with some simple upgrades. -Yes, the outlet placement is terrible. We solved this a little, by easily installing outlets in the cabinet with the radio. They are now two 12v outlets. One is just like you car lighter outlet and the other is two USB outlets. We can now recharge a phone or iPad right there on the table. By getting a small inverter we can also have 110 if needed in an emergency, even if we are running just off the battery. -The “Teddy Bear” mattress is useless. We first purchased a thick memory foam mattress, and it was OK, but really hard to makeup. A fitted sheet wanted to curl up at the corners. A few months ago we purchased a real Queen size mattress on Amazon. We love it. It hangs over that almost useless shelf at the foot of the bed, a little, but honestly it is no big deal. This weekend we are actually re-configuring the dinette to allow a little more space. (BTW- The 17R helped the problem of getting out of the bed, a little, by switching things around. You can see this on our channel. All of these things are talked about in some of our videos. After this weekend I hope you will check back about our redesign of the Dinette. This might help a little. -Mattress -
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Thank you for the comment. When someone likes the info we put out, it really makes our day.