Thank you very much for this thorough review. After this review I decided not to buy this tablet. This I a pity because I was looking forward for this so much.
You shouldn't be using this expensive pen tablets. These are designed for artists and animators that work 8+ hours a day and need a pantone certified display with a load of color modes... not writing notes or editing a video here and there. That's like buying a Königsegg to use it to drive to the local shop 3 times a week. There's plenty of drawing tablets that is not Wacom. Huion for example is scary close in terms of experience for 1/3 of the price. Wacom has alienated a major portion of their professional base. I'm a graphic designer and 3D animator and while i can get a huge chunk of the cost as a tax write-off and VAT free.. there is no way in hell i would pay that price... not even close. And i believe that should've been your line of thinking. Light bleed on a IPS panel is normal, but it looks like you got unlucky. And it will come to haunt you later when you decide to sell it to recuperate some of the cost. If you pay 3500+ dollars for a monitor with drawing capability, you should expect minimal light bleed. Should've returned it straight away to Wacom and told em to get you a better one. It is wholly unacceptable at this level.
Four thousand dollars for a tablet is disgusting - especially for an average panel that they used. Apple could easily eat Wacom's lunch if they wanted too.
cintiq's work way better on windows, always something with the mac. the pro 24" on a m2 mac always makes me unplug the usb-c before i can get the driver to pick up the cintiq.
Even though you may not be an artist in the traditional sense, your words were far more valuable than many "pro artist" reviews I've scoured. I have a 1440p Huion Kamvas 24, and with my primary monitor's death I was highly considering a Cintiq 27 Pro despite the insane price. The worst aspect of the Huion in my opinion is the viewing angle wave effect (IPS glow), the EXACT same thing you detail with the Wacom in your video. It has been shockingly difficult to find anyone talking about how good/bad it is; I had to resolve to hoping they panned the camera in a way that incidentally showed it. I likely would have purchased if it was perfect as its price would necessitate, but you saved me a lot of time and pain. My dream would be an OLED Pen Display, which would remove backlight bleed and IPS glow, while having insane color accuracy, contrast and viewing angles. Someone probably will make one in 2-4 years, hopefully sooner
not sure how you managed to record voice with all the continuous ring voice and breathing, if you do RU-vid videos and use Premier Pro you should be using Adobe Audition to remove all noises and tune the voice in 3-5 simple clicks
There is a difference for fast panning of course. But for the drawing / sculpting experience you won't notice a big difference. Kinda absolute for most creative tasks. It's not worth the fan noise and the high price of the device.
I recently got the smaller version of this, the Pro 22, for studying 3d graphics, and I not only get light bleed, I also get 3 dead sub-pixels, returned it immediately. A $3000 pen display should not come with any defects whatsoever, I should expect a level of quality control on par with Apple, especially when this is actually meant for industry professionals who need a color accurate reference display without any visual defects. I am conflicted to get another one, since other than the dead pixels and screen bleed I really liked the pen display, the 120 Hz refresh rate is really nice for reducing pen input latency, the touch which is just not available on competitor's tablets at the same size, and the accuracy is perfect with no parallax unlike the previous Huion tablet I owned which have significant parallax on top of a group of stuck pixels after around a year of use; it's just that for $3000 I expect to have a perfect screen with no defects, and that doesn't seems to be the case, I am in a fortunate position to be in the US and doesn't need to worry about being outside of Wacom's shipping territory unlike you, but still I'm on the fence about rather if I want to get another one to potentially have another defective unit that I have to waste even more of my time with.
For that price, you would expect a flawless product. Shame on you, Wacom! That amount of backlight bleed, possibly dead pixels, driver issues, cable management and other design/functionality flaws are simply unacceptable at the 4k € price 😓
Greetings, I have the same tablet as you. I'm trying to move from a 22" display tablet to a regular tablet as I feel it would be so much better for my ergonomic health. I'm not sure about this model, but some of the intuos pro tablets offer replaceable surfaces and some are different textures. Have you tried the slim pen for this model?Lastly, I like your perspectives. thanks again for making the review.
The short answer: the replacement surface material is immaterial! You probably don't need them (personal opinion). The long answer: I purchased my beloved Intuous Pro L Touch as soon as it was released. Mnay years later, I am still using the same stock surface mat. I have not tried the other ones. My Intuous's surface is now slightly scratched but not at all unpleasant to look at. Very much akin to what is shown in the video. I still use it on almost daily basis. My perspective: you almost do not need to change the surface material for sketching and or handwriting, but if you are coloring and applying a lot of pressure it is nice to know there are replacements; and I think it would take a healthy long time before you have to replace it. Finally, I find the stock one is the right balance of friction (compared to my experience with other tablets, pen displays and iPad paper feeling screen protectors as well as real paper); it feels great and very similar to paper (and you have both the regular nibs and the felt nibs; so you already have the ability to have variable feel).
Thank you for the in-depth review of the display. This was extremely helpful. Much appreciated. I think you should push hard with their customer support to make this right for you as this is without a doubt, a big investment.
Thank you for your review. I am gonna tell you my cintiq story. In the end of 2019 I got my Cintiq 32, I upgraded from an Intuos 5 m, had used a cintiq 22HD at an internship and wanted to go for it, as the small drawing area was giving me cramps, also did my Bachelors Degree at that time in Design and Illustration. So it was a no-brainer for me to get it, but had to wait, until the stand was available back then (why release such a thing without a stand is beyond me). So long story short, it had a cirular spot pretty much in the middle, that was brighter than the rest of the screen, upon more investigation it could be that the UPS-guys screwed up transportation and it got damaged, but another issue with the screen, like white smears appearing on the edge, made me return the device as soon as possible for them to exchange. That all was relatively hazzle free, and I got the screen replaced withing a week or so. I knew they replaced the screen instead of the full device, because there was no more cable zip tie at the back of it, and also no more Serial number, which I found odd. Well long story short, only a few months later, the same problem arose. So I had to send it in a second time, and told them, they should be sending me one from a newer production. They did and the third device I received didn't have these smearing issues at all. But as you mention in your video, the light bleeding at the edges and the sort of bad black values have always be persisted. I think its due to the IPS technology (i haven Eizo Fs2333 before, that I love to death, but has that IPS glare a bit). But with the Cintiq its also the glass that probably reflects inside, and makes the whole light bleed issue way stronger. The thing is the problems did only stop there for a while. The current device I have, held up pretty good, but about half a year ago, so pretty much after 2,5 years of use, there arose stuck sub-pixels, that are very visible when looking at dark colors. They are probably dying, due to the bit of pressure from your palm when drawing, so it sucks very much. The very problem also happend to the mobile Studio 16, (model 2016) which I got used, and has a real like cloud of stuck green pixels in the middle, and also a tonal shift in white point from top to bottom. But back to the Cintiq 32. I had a Job to do as a freelance Illustrator, and therefore could just not send it in at the moment. I contacted them, told them about the issue, and they said, because its outside of warranty I could only send it in for repairs for 1200€. It told them I rather wait a bit, they said the replacement only gets 1 Year warranty after that. So I've been thinking to myself, I should be drawing so much, the problem will appear pretty much every year, and I would have to replace it yearly? I am a bit sour about that production quality. They should just replace it free of charge, again. Overall I am very weary if I ever want another Wacom device again, if their quality control keeps being so bad. I love the pen and the technology, too, but Its unacceptable for such an expensive device to have a life of only three years. Considering the price, they should at least give 5 year warranty, as Eizo does for their professional products. But its like with Apple devices the core power user marked has been sacrificed for the livestyle-market, and with normal customers they can just do their mediocre lackluster work. I would advice that you get some insurance for your device that covers replacments, so you're on the save side. Seeing, that they are not able to properly fix their problems with the new generation seems to be a red flag for me. What I also haven't mention ist, how the mobile studio also has no more working headphone jack, only 1 usb port working, and the click-wheel not being responsive, and there being pretty much no support softwarewise. I recently, for the fun of it, got an xp pen 10inch mini display tablet, to connect with a phone and pc, and I've been impressed how far they improved in only a few years. So to anybody reading this, be weary what you buy, and complain asap, else these companies will give you half-decent stuff forever.
Trial and error: grind small but not too fine so that u can pull a double shot with consistent streams over 30 seconds +/- and aim for 15 to 19 bars (that is my personal method). The numbers are arbitrary and differ from one grinder to the other.
The thing that pissed me off the most is the complete lack of left handed support on my Cintiq 13HD. It also knocks my main monitor out of 144hz when the Cintiq is connected (and not even turned on). I've barely used it for these reasons.
EVEO premium single arm. Its great. I stabilize it with “Artograph PadPucks” to be able to pen comfortably. The arm and the padpucks are from amazon. I prefer over the original stand for wacom 27 which I own.
I'm new to all of this and it's very confusing... everytime I get blood work done my igm is always high also my blood work shows weak gamma migrating paraprotein identified, weak igm lambda band identified... my neurologist said its very concerning to her but my hematologist really isn't taking me seriously and I think it's because I'm young... I do have other health issues like lupus but I have been complaining about not feeling well and I'm not getting any better... my neurologist is going to call my hematologist to personally speak to him about those labs to make sure he's taking me seriously and running right test she says that I should be watched and monitored and I'm so confused as to why? Are these things showing up in my labs concerning? Are there other test I can ask for....I feel like something is being missed
The video is a gross over simplification intended to simplify some materials for students and non-experts. I am glad your doctor is taking action and wishing you good health. Final word advice; social media can lead to false impressions. Take medical advice from your licensed doctor in charge of your case. Ask for education and counseling. Seek second opinions if needed from other licensed experts. Best of luck
In some cases, that can be due to the connection between the computer and tablet, maybe you are using a cable adapter that doesn´t support 4k? Or if you are using an hdmi connection for example, make sure it is 2.0 and not less.
@@marialuciazegarra685 I used the ones provided by wacom as well as some 8k HDMI cables I had. I guess it is just Wacom. The Matte foil they have on it seems terrible for it and the fans are ridiculous. My gaming pc with max capacity does not make so much noise. Pretty damn disappointed especially at this price point. Wacom itself could also not help at all so they seem to not care. 4k for that service and product is just not worth it so I went now for a huion 24 and hope apple will some day go into this market lol. Thanks for the suggestion though, much appreciated!
@@tomjueris9972 yeah, my office was just about to get one for the design team, but after searching online for reviews we totally backed down. It's just not worth it.
@@marialuciazegarra685 i must however say the colour accuracy and nits are almost perfect on it. Comparing the huion 24 4k to it it’s worlds different. Wacom 27 was almost (just not as bright) as my studio display. Well. That’s it. If you need one as your main screen I would probably suggest going for the wacom. Using it as a secondary screen for all the handy work, don’t bother. Wacom 24 would do the same tbh. But there I’m still annoyed by the fans, as someome who does not love having earphones on all day. Basically what we need is apple to start doing bizz in this area 😫.
@@tomjueris9972 actually that's exactly what we are doing! We're getting a studio display as a main screen, and sticking with our old wacom 24 as a secondary screen, which actually works just as it did in day 1 and is fanless. It's great to have read that your opinion matches mine. thanks!
The Wacom overprice a lot her products, we expect that all parts work flawless but it's not. Drivers continue to fault, parallax on the edges and light bleeding displays (why not oled?). I have the first 21, the 24 pro and the 13, the situation has always been like this.
Turns out Wacom is now a shit company, move on to alternatives like Huion they are trying hard and improving. Cheers and thanks for the honest review, best of luck to you.
It seems a bit extra that you bought a 3.5k USD drawing tablet for mostly looking at medical journalism and jotting down notes, but your money is your money and how you spend it is up to you. That said the pros and cons are well documented and all valid. They're really out here selling 4K drawing tablets without making major improvements to the screen itself and shipping out poor quality controlled units. I think my biggest issue with this is the trashy image quality in part of the matte finish and the backlight bleed. Other issues are probably how they put 4 hotkeys on the right side of the monitor instead of keeping them all on one side. There will never be a use case where anyone is double gripping the monitor at the same time because the pen is always in either hand. The attachments have terrible layouts too. Overall just a lot of poor industrial engineering decisions that make some of the features impractical and irrelevant. If you retire this one day, I'd recommend buying an OLED TV/monitor for the highly preferable picture quality and larger screen real estate at a fraction of the price. You could use an Intuos Pro alongside it to jot down notes, without sacrificing much. Unless you really want to write directly on the screen, it doesn't seem like the best fit for your specific use case. The aforementioned setup is way more versatile without breaking the bank and you won't have any backlight bleed while having the darkest blacks possible. Maybe in 5-10 years we'll get an insane mini-LED or Q-OLED drawing tablet with a glossy screen that still has a matte feel for the drawing texture and thoughtfully engineered product design. That'll be an end-game drawing monitor worth spending 3.5k on.
Thank you! Great advice! Spot on feedback as well. 1. Matt finish can reduce eye strain: can overcome that with polarizing glasses for a small price though. 2. I save a few minutes or more a day using a pen display. On my work days I have at least 3 hours of screen time after work. I tried TVs and tried the intuous before. I actually have a video about it. It works great but less efficient. 3. And yes I can afford it! But I decided its a bad investment given the trade off. I also do graphics and sketches as a hobby + create handouts for my juniors and medical students. …. Conclusion: you are right … Side Fact: I did return it and opted to NOT buy a replacement for the time being. (All to say you are very much right). … Interestingly though I miss it despite having thought I got it out of my system!
Thank you for your great medical-specific videos! For annotating radiology images (i.e. outlining specific structures) how would you compare the Cintiq Pro 27, Intuos Pro, and Huion Kamvas Pro 24 4K (as well as the Cintiq 16 and Wacom One)? It seems to me that using using a tablet like the Intuos would take a lot of practice and skill (i.e. to develop the hand-eye coordination), and as far as pen displays, you'd want the least parallax, greatest responsiveness, and a large display for precision. I would be really interested to know your thoughts, since you have tried quite a few of options over years (I have only tried Intuos Pro L and an iPad).
The cintiq pro is the most beautiful experience as long as you get a perfectly functional unit. I absolutely miss it. The Kamvas pro 24 does not have a perfect alignment relatively but is also a great experience. The build is better than i expected but it is not high quality either. The screen is beautiful. I know some who had issues with the Kamvas as well. Luckily I do not. Cintiq 16: i loved it! My issue with it is excess scratching on the protective film with use over the past 3 years + making the picture quality less and it’s only a FHD to begin with. There are replacement films that one could buy from third party sellers online, but removing the original film is difficult and I have not tried doing so! It is bulky and there is some parallax. The One is great but I prefer a cintiq 16 anytime due to the one pen not having a pressure curve customization: you can still control the pressure sensitivity threshold however. It also has only one button and no shortcuts and i need a second button for panning and scrolling to minimize reaching for the mouse and wasting time for my flow!
For the preposterous price this thing should have been mini-led, but after 15 years using their crap I’ve stopped expecting good decisions and quality control from Wacom.
I got one a few weeks ago with the Flex Arm. I’m a professional artist and designer and I must say it absolutely exceeds all expectations. Sorry you weren’t happy with yours, but I’ve had 0 problems with mine. The only time the pen and cursor didn’t line up was with Clip Studio that hadn’t been updated, but as soon as I updated it the problem went away. If you’re an artist and can afford this, BUY IT NOW. I’ve owned Wacom and Huion products for years and this is by far the best so far.
No! I returned mine, and opted not to get a replacement for the time being! It costed me a figurative kidney and caused me some heartache! However this is my previous and permanent set up. Now I am using Huion Kamvas Pro 24 4K on the desk that once had the wacom. I am using it with the cintiq pro 27 original stand 😅 (it wobble a bit because it is meant for the heavier cintiq pro. But I stabilized it with pad-pucks as I always do and I love it). I am not a youtuber really but maybe when I have time Ill post a short video about it! Maybe in the future I will get the cintiq pro once more. I also have a feeling Wacom will step-up their game soon (I am an optimist and believe in Wacom as a loyal customer still)
@@cash78626 I actually do miss it, but it really does not affect the workflow that much on a Mac. I wonder if on Windows it might be missed more because Windows supports touch natively. Congratulations by the way!
Thanks for this honest and in-depth review. Wacom and almost all pen display competitors need to work on these issues before I buy anymore of their products. As a professional artist myself, the cursor lag, inconsistent drivers, screen brightness really bumb me out. I look forward to the next evolution of pen display monitors.
As far as pen displays go, I really appreciate the Huion products myself. But honestly draw on my iPad more than anything because of the superior line tracking and absolutely no cursor lag. It’s just way more immersive than even the highest end pen display and lends more to my workflow because I get in the zone and draw very rapidly.
I am wondering 'why' you chose to buy a tablet that is meant for illustration and artwork instead of focusing on reading and writing..? For art creation it is fantastic.
It saves me a lot of time and eye strain. There was a period of a few years where a minimum of 5 textbooks are open and I’m constantly going between them. The way i do the same process from a single large screen took sometime to perfect! There was history of graphics creation in the past; how I was introduced to all this ;)
agree with you mark spot on i love my dell and recently i got the surface laptop studio which has S uprised me not as good as the apple pencil but not far off
Ive got the dell canvas 27 and zero Backlight bleed no dead or missing pixels and plenty of room either side to rest my wrist.they should have kept the same design as there older 27inch and added a 4k screen with 100% adobe RBG but instead they cut costs smaller bezel cheaper to produce more profit and the price is so crazy i hope some of the chinese manufactures like huion create a 27inch with touch as this makes a massive difference to workflow this is a downgrade not an upgrade
I've got the Dell Canvas as well. Dell is a big enough company to push QC to the max, and they did. -This thing may be the best engineered device in my entire house. Simply excellent on many levels, from the size, cool operating temp (with no fan!), the non-flicker backlight, to the physical touch toggle, the glass fitting, (Dell did ground glass before Wacom swiped the idea), and their touch feature is smooth as silk; very intuitive, better than Cintiq models by far, (though perhaps they've gotten their recent models right?) Wacom never quite figured out touch for a long time; it's not in their wheelhouse. They are a pen company, not a touch company. They seem related, but they're very different tech. Dell got it SO right. I'd prefer if the Dell had better pen drivers; lines can be a little janky when doing certain strokes at certain speeds, but that's on Wacom; they deliberately gimped the driver just to sabotage their competitor. (A pure dick move, but also sort of understandable. I won't ever buy a new Wacom device because of it, though. I don't respect dick movers.) There's no hack available, (I've looked), but if you can retrain yourself to compensate then the Dell is one of the best drawing boards ever made. 4K would be nice, but QHD seems to be dense enough for my needs. I've done a lot of solid work on this thing. Those huge bezels are a requirement, IMHO. And the magnetic pen holder? Perfect. Cheers.
I have the base model 16 ' hd display. Had it for nearly 3 years now, and it works like a dream. I'll pass on the pro range obviously because of costs. My next cintiq 22' HD display. Thanks for deciding this for me.
I am working on my Cintiq 16 right now! I am coupling the Cintiq 16 with my 10 bit 4k+ display and using the toggle display function. I owned the Cintiq 16 since it's release; just under 4 years at this moment. I love it. I think it is the best thing I owned so far in terms of tech! I haven't used it for over a month; and it is now back on my desk and in the spotlight once more! Thank you for your reply. if you get the 22'' tell us if it's brightness controls are better. that is one of my biggest issues with the 16. I am living with the scratches on the protective film though. The parallax is over-rated; does not affect me at all.
@@B.almakadma thanks, will do. It seems too risky to pay so much for the pro models. I'm in South Africa and if I should buy any of those pro models, it would a real bummer if they gave problems. I've seen some amazing work coming from artists who use the 22HD, it's not 4k, but hey, HD is High definition, it's still a better res than when I used to pencil, ink and scan.👌
Very sorry to hear about that. For returns (even under warranty) Wacom wants users to pay for shipping to their facility. When I had to send my then-new 27QHD tablet back, it was about $200US to ship it. My unit was fixed, but it make me feel disappointed in Wacom's quality control.
