Wacom Cintiq Pro 27 Review - Buyers Remorse and Frustration. Potentially the Greatest Pen Display.

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Wacom Cintiq Pro 27.
Chapters:
00:00. Introduction
00:18. What is a pen display
04:48. The pros
09:34. The cons
11:45. Buyer's remorse
15:10. Expectations: I expect a perfectly functional device without defects.
THE PROS:
- I was pleasantly surprised to see while at similar pixel density, somehow reading feels fetter. text looks better. NOT sharp though. It is a strange thing to explain. I was even wondering if the pixels themselves are bigger?
- As for sharpness, the screen is a bit ‘hazy’ maybe due to the anti-reflective itching of the glass. You can see this on many clips online and I think the video cameras make it look worse than reality. in reality it is a bit hazy but in a light diffusion way. by hazy I mean: the edges of objects look slightly less sharp the screen feels like it has a granulation layer on top of it if you are looking carefully. I find this to be pleasing. I also know it is by design = sun glares are reduced, and so are direct lights. Furthermore, my understanding is that the itching on the glass makes the pen feel more like paper.
- The colors: 10 bit - but better than my other 10 bit display! By God, I love it. I described to my wife as if I am looking into a crystal clear clean lake in a clear weather and I feel like I want to dive in it. (and yes the itched glass somehow adds positively to this effect). I am sure it would annoy some professionals who need the sharpest image. I am not an artist and not a graphics person. My use case is different, but spending most of my life in front of computer monitors (even at work while writing patient notes, reading their images and data and writing their reports) - I have great appreciation for this. Also, given that hospitals will have Eizo monitors, I think I developed good taste 😊. Let me put it this way: for someone who used an iMac or a Surface Studio, would you go back? This is lower resolution, but feels better to look at! Why, I do not know!
- The pen feel: the Pro Pen 3 feels better than the Pro Pen 2. While similar specs and removed eraser, and admittedly that made me a bit confused - when I held it, I realized with a thinner, longer tip, less parallax, better materials. It is the best pen experience I have ever had. Hands down. To that I congratulate the engineers. I used it in it’s ‘naked’ form and it reminds me of the Apple Pencil and I used it with the flared rubber grip, which does not hold on to finger prints as does the old Pro 2 Pen!
- I love the new design. there is enough borders for me to draw outside the boarders. Probably not great for artist who need to make large stroke gestures and actually enjoy the large bezels.
- I love the materials. the metal and the rubber grips - are all well built and the pictures do not do it justice, but it looks premium enough that I would love to showcase it on my desk to anyone!
- The new cable management system is sweet. the two back covers are great. The cables quality is high to say the least. All cables needed are in the box.
- The 1/4-inch UNC thread holes along the top (two) and two on either sides make moving the pen trey easy and allows you to mount accessories.
- Obviously, the standard VESA mount is a great addition.
TEH CONS:
- The pen tray cover easily falls off and can damage your expensive new pen if it falls, However, even in upright position it seems like it can hold the pen just fine. I won’t fall unless someone hits it (although lightly)
- The device cannot be used out of the box without some form of a mount - and the Wacom Cintiq Pro 27 Stand costs about 500 US on it’s own and this is before shipping and tax (at the time of recording)
- The fans in my experience are audible but they are not annoying at all, and I do not think they would affect me badly in anyway. However, they might affect your workflow.
- In my use the device never felt hot to touch.
- The pen drivers/ or the display mapping will on occasion stop working. the pen will curser will not be under the pen and it will need a full computer restart. not even plugging and unplugging will solve the issue. This happened twice to me. Upon the very first installation. I thought maybe new drivers and need restart and it worked. Then once again at a random time after. So… it is probably a software issue. of Note both times happened while I was switching between HDR mode and standard mode - I am not sure if it is related or not
- The display does not work at 120 Hz by default. Also, i could not turn that feature on despite using a thunderbolt cable USB-C to USB-C (and a very high quality one) with my Macbook Pro 16.
- My unit has significant light bleed that made looking at anything with dark edges or at a dark background frustrating.
- What makes me frustrated even more is that on reddit, on RU-vid and online you can see many reports of the same issue on older Wacom Cintiq Pro 32, and 24! Why? what kind of manufacturing process would not take care of that!

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8 июл 2024

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@wiladam Год назад

I'm sorry, but for the price Wacom demands for these things there should simply be no issues. The units they ship should be screened inside and out - as these are (supposedly) professional grade pen displays, best of the best. Backlight uniformity is something very rudimentary in display technology nowadays, and there are simply no excuses here to do such a half-arsed job. It seems to me Wacom has somehow lost the thread some time ago. They seem to be more focused on gimmicks and advertising than getting the basics right.

@Vizeral 7 месяцев назад

Yup, the problem is that they don't have a close competitor, and that breeds bad production practices.

@lindafus9251 Год назад

The issues of quality control with Wacom are not limited to just this model. I own the Cintiq Pro 16 (newest model) and returned it 3 times because of the screen popping out of the bezel. I also own the Cintiq Pro 24 and had to return that one for a replacement as the magnet did not work which held the remote. Previous to these models I never had an issue with a Wacom purchase. I feel your pain.

@B.almakadma Год назад

That is frustrating!!

@kane2369 4 месяца назад

Even though you may not be an artist in the traditional sense, your words were far more valuable than many "pro artist" reviews I've scoured. I have a 1440p Huion Kamvas 24, and with my primary monitor's death I was highly considering a Cintiq 27 Pro despite the insane price. The worst aspect of the Huion in my opinion is the viewing angle wave effect (IPS glow), the EXACT same thing you detail with the Wacom in your video. It has been shockingly difficult to find anyone talking about how good/bad it is; I had to resolve to hoping they panned the camera in a way that incidentally showed it. I likely would have purchased if it was perfect as its price would necessitate, but you saved me a lot of time and pain. My dream would be an OLED Pen Display, which would remove backlight bleed and IPS glow, while having insane color accuracy, contrast and viewing angles. Someone probably will make one in 2-4 years, hopefully sooner

@stevenpike7857 2 месяца назад

For over 4 thousand dollars, this should have QLED or OLED panels. It's disgustingly overpriced.

@ThePilexstream Месяц назад

the new Ipad pro 2024 came into idea.

@Newgrfx321 Год назад

Thanks for this honest and in-depth review. Wacom and almost all pen display competitors need to work on these issues before I buy anymore of their products. As a professional artist myself, the cursor lag, inconsistent drivers, screen brightness really bumb me out. I look forward to the next evolution of pen display monitors.

@B.almakadma Год назад

Me too!!

@doaflamingo3713 Год назад

i had xp pen and huion and never looked back at wacom again, had zero issues with them, but thats just my experience

@Newgrfx321 Год назад

As far as pen displays go, I really appreciate the Huion products myself. But honestly draw on my iPad more than anything because of the superior line tracking and absolutely no cursor lag. It’s just way more immersive than even the highest end pen display and lends more to my workflow because I get in the zone and draw very rapidly.

@jamesturnbull9481 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for the well presented review.

@KrishnaDraws Год назад

Very sorry to hear about that. For returns (even under warranty) Wacom wants users to pay for shipping to their facility. When I had to send my then-new 27QHD tablet back, it was about $200US to ship it. My unit was fixed, but it make me feel disappointed in Wacom's quality control.

@don-dori 7 месяцев назад

For that price, you would expect a flawless product. Shame on you, Wacom! That amount of backlight bleed, possibly dead pixels, driver issues, cable management and other design/functionality flaws are simply unacceptable at the 4k € price 😓

@Gumpa2 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for your review. I am gonna tell you my cintiq story. In the end of 2019 I got my Cintiq 32, I upgraded from an Intuos 5 m, had used a cintiq 22HD at an internship and wanted to go for it, as the small drawing area was giving me cramps, also did my Bachelors Degree at that time in Design and Illustration. So it was a no-brainer for me to get it, but had to wait, until the stand was available back then (why release such a thing without a stand is beyond me). So long story short, it had a cirular spot pretty much in the middle, that was brighter than the rest of the screen, upon more investigation it could be that the UPS-guys screwed up transportation and it got damaged, but another issue with the screen, like white smears appearing on the edge, made me return the device as soon as possible for them to exchange. That all was relatively hazzle free, and I got the screen replaced withing a week or so. I knew they replaced the screen instead of the full device, because there was no more cable zip tie at the back of it, and also no more Serial number, which I found odd. Well long story short, only a few months later, the same problem arose. So I had to send it in a second time, and told them, they should be sending me one from a newer production. They did and the third device I received didn't have these smearing issues at all. But as you mention in your video, the light bleeding at the edges and the sort of bad black values have always be persisted. I think its due to the IPS technology (i haven Eizo Fs2333 before, that I love to death, but has that IPS glare a bit). But with the Cintiq its also the glass that probably reflects inside, and makes the whole light bleed issue way stronger. The thing is the problems did only stop there for a while. The current device I have, held up pretty good, but about half a year ago, so pretty much after 2,5 years of use, there arose stuck sub-pixels, that are very visible when looking at dark colors. They are probably dying, due to the bit of pressure from your palm when drawing, so it sucks very much. The very problem also happend to the mobile Studio 16, (model 2016) which I got used, and has a real like cloud of stuck green pixels in the middle, and also a tonal shift in white point from top to bottom. But back to the Cintiq 32. I had a Job to do as a freelance Illustrator, and therefore could just not send it in at the moment. I contacted them, told them about the issue, and they said, because its outside of warranty I could only send it in for repairs for 1200€. It told them I rather wait a bit, they said the replacement only gets 1 Year warranty after that. So I've been thinking to myself, I should be drawing so much, the problem will appear pretty much every year, and I would have to replace it yearly? I am a bit sour about that production quality. They should just replace it free of charge, again. Overall I am very weary if I ever want another Wacom device again, if their quality control keeps being so bad. I love the pen and the technology, too, but Its unacceptable for such an expensive device to have a life of only three years. Considering the price, they should at least give 5 year warranty, as Eizo does for their professional products. But its like with Apple devices the core power user marked has been sacrificed for the livestyle-market, and with normal customers they can just do their mediocre lackluster work. I would advice that you get some insurance for your device that covers replacments, so you're on the save side. Seeing, that they are not able to properly fix their problems with the new generation seems to be a red flag for me. What I also haven't mention ist, how the mobile studio also has no more working headphone jack, only 1 usb port working, and the click-wheel not being responsive, and there being pretty much no support softwarewise. I recently, for the fun of it, got an xp pen 10inch mini display tablet, to connect with a phone and pc, and I've been impressed how far they improved in only a few years. So to anybody reading this, be weary what you buy, and complain asap, else these companies will give you half-decent stuff forever.

@B.almakadma 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for sharing! Wow!

@charliemartian8720 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for the in-depth review of the display. This was extremely helpful. Much appreciated. I think you should push hard with their customer support to make this right for you as this is without a doubt, a big investment.

@B.almakadma 7 месяцев назад

Glad it was helpful! I also look for forward to increased products’ quality.

@innerc8951 6 месяцев назад

I recently got the smaller version of this, the Pro 22, for studying 3d graphics, and I not only get light bleed, I also get 3 dead sub-pixels, returned it immediately. A $3000 pen display should not come with any defects whatsoever, I should expect a level of quality control on par with Apple, especially when this is actually meant for industry professionals who need a color accurate reference display without any visual defects. I am conflicted to get another one, since other than the dead pixels and screen bleed I really liked the pen display, the 120 Hz refresh rate is really nice for reducing pen input latency, the touch which is just not available on competitor's tablets at the same size, and the accuracy is perfect with no parallax unlike the previous Huion tablet I owned which have significant parallax on top of a group of stuck pixels after around a year of use; it's just that for $3000 I expect to have a perfect screen with no defects, and that doesn't seems to be the case, I am in a fortunate position to be in the US and doesn't need to worry about being outside of Wacom's shipping territory unlike you, but still I'm on the fence about rather if I want to get another one to potentially have another defective unit that I have to waste even more of my time with.

@andypandy3736 Год назад

agree with you mark spot on i love my dell and recently i got the surface laptop studio which has S uprised me not as good as the apple pencil but not far off

@-The-Golden-God- Год назад

The thing that pissed me off the most is the complete lack of left handed support on my Cintiq 13HD. It also knocks my main monitor out of 144hz when the Cintiq is connected (and not even turned on). I've barely used it for these reasons.

@artiphats Год назад

I got one a few weeks ago with the Flex Arm. I’m a professional artist and designer and I must say it absolutely exceeds all expectations. Sorry you weren’t happy with yours, but I’ve had 0 problems with mine. The only time the pen and cursor didn’t line up was with Clip Studio that hadn’t been updated, but as soon as I updated it the problem went away. If you’re an artist and can afford this, BUY IT NOW. I’ve owned Wacom and Huion products for years and this is by far the best so far.

@1337Hans Год назад

For the preposterous price this thing should have been mini-led, but after 15 years using their crap I’ve stopped expecting good decisions and quality control from Wacom.

@fabvalleart 11 месяцев назад

After watching all these reviews I get the conclusion that the pen tablets - not screen displays - are still the best.

@jsp8321 2 месяца назад

I'm curious about the names of Cintiq's bottom left and right stands.

@SabeameFantasy 5 месяцев назад

Is there a difference between 60Hz & 120Hz refresh rate?

@daCrude 5 месяцев назад

There is a difference for fast panning of course. But for the drawing / sculpting experience you won't notice a big difference. Kinda absolute for most creative tasks. It's not worth the fan noise and the high price of the device.

@ricardorobinson5911 Год назад

thanks for this vid. What arm are you using for this and how does it (arm) work in your experience?

@B.almakadma Год назад

EVEO premium single arm. Its great. I stabilize it with “Artograph PadPucks” to be able to pen comfortably. The arm and the padpucks are from amazon. I prefer over the original stand for wacom 27 which I own.

@Andrew-rz9ck Год назад

what are those 2 round ball things under the corners of the display that prevent wobble called and where can I get them.

@B.almakadma Год назад

They are called Artograph padpucks! You can buy them from amazon.

@tompaulussen7798 Год назад

So I was finally going for a cintiq pro and was waiting for the new model…. Oh my. So little reviews after the announcement last month, but out of the few yet another more negative based one. This is a very expensive flag ship product. How can issues like these light leaks even be a possibility. I’m even more torn now.

@B.almakadma Год назад

Thank you. I wish I can tell you to go for it, but we need more reviews and more input from the community. I have every faith that Wacom is awesome. However, for now we need someone to address these specific issues to put our minds at ease. These are big purchase decisions indeed…

@terry00 Год назад

Sorry to butt in but if anything I would suggest maybe a Huion 24 4k model. Its not as big as this but they don't have the same issues as Wacom except maybe some driver issues at first. I've had the 24 and 32 Cintiq pros and they were hell. The light bleed was truly horrible, the screens were turning colors, yellowing edges, dead pixels, etc I went through several Cintiqs, literally. And support was no real help at all. I kind of figured this was going to happen here too. Its minor here compared to the others that were put out though. Wacom is well known just the products have fallen over time and I wish they'd start to care about what they do.

@B.almakadma Год назад

@@terry00 Wow! Valid point. Sorry to hear that happened with you!! Thank you very much. Would Wacom really have no quality measure against this? Then carry on the same practices from previous gens despite customer complaints into their new flagship? Is there another explanation? I am inclined to hope the best in Wacom given my personal use experience. I will not judge them badly over one bad experience. It is not statistically significant. However if people like you start raising the same issue on the same model I would be disappointed. Raising the same issue on previous model is disconcerting. Luckily, nor now a few people that contacted me have no light bleed issues on the same model though (which is great). However, if something like this has a real chance it would happen again after replacement, then no matter how good it feels it will disrupt potential workflows… Thus, you are not butting in at all. You have a valid point to suggest alternatives!

@terry00 Год назад

@@B.almakadma i honestly think it could be a few factors when it comes to the build of these. 1 quality control- if the previous pros are anything to go by it would seem that either there may not be any or they are incompetent. 2-the manufacturer themselves are using cheaper materials to get more profit from their high prices, if wacom themselves are building them or if they are using another company to build them i mean. 3 shipment- in transit the heat in the trailers and cabins of the trucks can be extremely hot and being packed in with other boxes sliding and bumping around can cause light damage. And the handling of the packages are not really done well as most are thrown into trailers and bins from smalled packages to big boxes. As they are pressured to get things out on time. Know this from experience. So with all this it can maybe cause the screen to come loose in some areas depending on the adhesives they use causing the lightbleed. But that goes back into quality control as that would address this. ...its all speculation/ my opinion, only going off information I have read, seen, and experienced. Ive used wacom since the original bamboo days and i would love it if they'd get back on the ball. But switching to huion has been very good to me so thats what i recommend to others now.

@CROiga Год назад

I completely feel your pain,... those light bleed spots would frustrate me as hell,... but I would for sure ask them to replace the unit.

@B.almakadma Год назад

Absolutely

@CROiga Год назад

@@B.almakadma just an update,... after your review, I was a bit hesitant, but I ordered one from my local computer store (I guess they are certified resellers). They told me that they are ordering it directly from a Wacom factory, so I have to wait for it,... but hopefully, if smth is wrong with it, upon intensive inspection, I will have no issue to return it for replacement. Ordered it with original wacom stand btw. I just thought, since I like to lean on it, this one seemed more sturdy than my vesa arms. Will post an update when I get it.

@B.almakadma Год назад

@@CROiga Please let us know! Thank you so much for your reply. I got the original Wacom stand. Unfortunately it arrived after I had already returned my unit! I mounted a smaller tablet on it and it wobbles despite locking it! so tell me about your experience with that too! That being said: I am quite certain with the Cintiq Pro 27 weight on the official stand will be rock steady (I hope)! I am scared of any further disappointments. I am planning on buying another one!! (My retailer does not do replacements, so had to return the defective unit after Wacom support confirmed the defect). Not only do I want to hear from you; I really need to know about your experience and get some reassurances... Honestly, I still have faith! I genuinely had no issues with Wacom in the past; I am rooting for them and REALLY want it work well and not be a systemic defect! Really appreciate your reply! It is very helpful!

@CROiga Год назад

@@B.almakadma will do…

@CROiga Год назад

Ok, my Cintiq pro 27 is finally here, so I can post an update... Light bleed problem? Luckily my unit doesn't appear to exhibit any light bleed whatsoever. Unfortunately my unit came out of the box with one stuck pixel in the bottom left corner of the screen, an always white one, and it was so barely visible, cos I noticed it only after 2 days of working on the unit, and that even after I performed all the online screen test known to man. It is visible only on very dark backgrounds. And now after few more days, it seems that it is even less visible, but maybe my mind is getting used to it, so I don't even see it anymore. Wacom policy is that only one pixel is not a problem, especially on a 4k unit, cos it is so small. Anyway, I don't mind it. I ordered the unit with it's original stand, and I'm glad I did it.... it is superb with the unit, and I wouldn't want it any other way,... it is so heavy and stable and I think I could lay on it with both forearms and it wouldn't budge. Screen is a bit hazy in comparison to my other normal hi quality screens (iMac, Samsung Odyssey Neo G7 and LG Ultrasharp) but that is to be expected considering the glass drawing surface I guess. I was planning to use it as my main screen, but I guess not anymore, cos my other screens are just better quality with sharper text, so it will be using it just for work drawing and modelling elements, and all the usual stuff like searching the web, text, gaming, etc will stay on my sharper monitors. All in all, no buyers remorse here,.... and my piece of advice, get it with the original stand, it's worth every penny. Hope this helps. Good luck with the other unit.

@andypandy3736 Год назад

Ive got the dell canvas 27 and zero Backlight bleed no dead or missing pixels and plenty of room either side to rest my wrist.they should have kept the same design as there older 27inch and added a 4k screen with 100% adobe RBG but instead they cut costs smaller bezel cheaper to produce more profit and the price is so crazy i hope some of the chinese manufactures like huion create a 27inch with touch as this makes a massive difference to workflow this is a downgrade not an upgrade

@MarkOakleyComics Год назад

I've got the Dell Canvas as well. Dell is a big enough company to push QC to the max, and they did. -This thing may be the best engineered device in my entire house. Simply excellent on many levels, from the size, cool operating temp (with no fan!), the non-flicker backlight, to the physical touch toggle, the glass fitting, (Dell did ground glass before Wacom swiped the idea), and their touch feature is smooth as silk; very intuitive, better than Cintiq models by far, (though perhaps they've gotten their recent models right?) Wacom never quite figured out touch for a long time; it's not in their wheelhouse. They are a pen company, not a touch company. They seem related, but they're very different tech. Dell got it SO right. I'd prefer if the Dell had better pen drivers; lines can be a little janky when doing certain strokes at certain speeds, but that's on Wacom; they deliberately gimped the driver just to sabotage their competitor. (A pure dick move, but also sort of understandable. I won't ever buy a new Wacom device because of it, though. I don't respect dick movers.) There's no hack available, (I've looked), but if you can retrain yourself to compensate then the Dell is one of the best drawing boards ever made. 4K would be nice, but QHD seems to be dense enough for my needs. I've done a lot of solid work on this thing. Those huge bezels are a requirement, IMHO. And the magnetic pen holder? Perfect. Cheers.

@channelofstuff6662 3 месяца назад

cintiq's work way better on windows, always something with the mac. the pro 24" on a m2 mac always makes me unplug the usb-c before i can get the driver to pick up the cintiq.

@MathMeertens 10 часов назад

Thank you very much for this thorough review. After this review I decided not to buy this tablet. This I a pity because I was looking forward for this so much.

@yoservs Год назад

I have the base model 16 ' hd display. Had it for nearly 3 years now, and it works like a dream. I'll pass on the pro range obviously because of costs. My next cintiq 22' HD display. Thanks for deciding this for me.

@B.almakadma Год назад

I am working on my Cintiq 16 right now! I am coupling the Cintiq 16 with my 10 bit 4k+ display and using the toggle display function. I owned the Cintiq 16 since it's release; just under 4 years at this moment. I love it. I think it is the best thing I owned so far in terms of tech! I haven't used it for over a month; and it is now back on my desk and in the spotlight once more! Thank you for your reply. if you get the 22'' tell us if it's brightness controls are better. that is one of my biggest issues with the 16. I am living with the scratches on the protective film though. The parallax is over-rated; does not affect me at all.

@yoservs Год назад

@@B.almakadma thanks, will do. It seems too risky to pay so much for the pro models. I'm in South Africa and if I should buy any of those pro models, it would a real bummer if they gave problems. I've seen some amazing work coming from artists who use the 22HD, it's not 4k, but hey, HD is High definition, it's still a better res than when I used to pencil, ink and scan.👌

@ChangeHere Год назад

i love my 32, the new 27 looks nice

@B.almakadma Год назад

It really was nice!

@stevenpike7857 2 месяца назад

Four thousand dollars for a tablet is disgusting - especially for an average panel that they used. Apple could easily eat Wacom's lunch if they wanted too.

@the_stixXx 8 месяцев назад

Dude, how do you work so close to the wall? Jamming your arm between the wall and the button housing was driving my OCD nuts.

@B.almakadma 7 месяцев назад

What used to be my workspace became my kid’s room … 😅

@the_stixXx 7 месяцев назад

@@B.almakadma congratulations brother! Got 3 myself. Cherish every moment because before you know it they are all grown up. Wish you the best.

@TT-rl4su 6 месяцев назад

Huion coming out with 27" and 19" 4k display tablets. Losing $1000 not as painful as losing $3000+!!!!!

@AJ-kv1po Год назад

Thanks for for taking the time to review 👍 Is that the Wacom arm you're using and are the small spheres under the tablet to keep it stable? Are they a third party item? I've heard that it's not working as smoothly with the macbook as with with Windows. Thx

@B.almakadma Год назад

No it is not. all third party. The small spheres are 'artograph padpucks' from Amazon rubberized to protect the monitor and to make sure it does not sway. most of the weight is carried on the arm though - these are just an added measure because I obsess. the arm does wobble. I have not tried the Wacom ergo arm though.

@AJ-kv1po Год назад

@@B.almakadma thanks!

@D4rkyfirefly Год назад

nice review thx! wanted to know what are those round rubber thingies that you let your cintiq lie on while its on an arm stand?

@B.almakadma Год назад

They are called Artograph PadPucks. Bought from amazon. I use them for tablets, books, you name it.

@D4rkyfirefly Год назад

@@B.almakadma thx!!! :)

@eugene4950 5 месяцев назад

Is that low pitch noise the fan cooling?

@B.almakadma 4 месяца назад

yes

@shanoncorrey9047 Год назад

I´m illustrator and I think bezels are a requirement in this kind of things.....the price is crazy.

@MythixMusic1 Год назад

What are those trackball looking things on the desk?

@B.almakadma 11 месяцев назад

Artograph Padpucks (from amazon)

@MythixMusic1 11 месяцев назад

@@B.almakadma ah, thanks. Not as exciting I thought, haha

@everydaysamething Год назад

It seems a bit extra that you bought a 3.5k USD drawing tablet for mostly looking at medical journalism and jotting down notes, but your money is your money and how you spend it is up to you. That said the pros and cons are well documented and all valid. They're really out here selling 4K drawing tablets without making major improvements to the screen itself and shipping out poor quality controlled units. I think my biggest issue with this is the trashy image quality in part of the matte finish and the backlight bleed. Other issues are probably how they put 4 hotkeys on the right side of the monitor instead of keeping them all on one side. There will never be a use case where anyone is double gripping the monitor at the same time because the pen is always in either hand. The attachments have terrible layouts too. Overall just a lot of poor industrial engineering decisions that make some of the features impractical and irrelevant. If you retire this one day, I'd recommend buying an OLED TV/monitor for the highly preferable picture quality and larger screen real estate at a fraction of the price. You could use an Intuos Pro alongside it to jot down notes, without sacrificing much. Unless you really want to write directly on the screen, it doesn't seem like the best fit for your specific use case. The aforementioned setup is way more versatile without breaking the bank and you won't have any backlight bleed while having the darkest blacks possible. Maybe in 5-10 years we'll get an insane mini-LED or Q-OLED drawing tablet with a glossy screen that still has a matte feel for the drawing texture and thoughtfully engineered product design. That'll be an end-game drawing monitor worth spending 3.5k on.

@B.almakadma Год назад

Thank you! Great advice! Spot on feedback as well. 1. Matt finish can reduce eye strain: can overcome that with polarizing glasses for a small price though. 2. I save a few minutes or more a day using a pen display. On my work days I have at least 3 hours of screen time after work. I tried TVs and tried the intuous before. I actually have a video about it. It works great but less efficient. 3. And yes I can afford it! But I decided its a bad investment given the trade off. I also do graphics and sketches as a hobby + create handouts for my juniors and medical students. …. Conclusion: you are right … Side Fact: I did return it and opted to NOT buy a replacement for the time being. (All to say you are very much right). … Interestingly though I miss it despite having thought I got it out of my system!

@InDoMiNuS Год назад

@Bara AlMakadma You should get a Huion kamvas 24 pro, it's basically the same thing without touch. And half the price.

@B.almakadma Год назад

@@InDoMiNuS I did!

@InDoMiNuS Год назад

@Bara AlMakadma Oh, and how do you like it?

@B.almakadma Год назад

@@InDoMiNuS Its good. It suffers too much paralax compared to the cintiq. The pen does not feel as good. But nothing to complain about! I am happy 😊

@aber6441 5 месяцев назад

not sure how you managed to record voice with all the continuous ring voice and breathing, if you do RU-vid videos and use Premier Pro you should be using Adobe Audition to remove all noises and tune the voice in 3-5 simple clicks

@IvanoColtellacci Год назад

Thank you for your geneuine review. I have a question: the Cintiq Pro 27 is an Ultra HD display (3840 x 2160) . Are you using it in the native resolution ? If it is the case, are text menu readable enough ?

@B.almakadma Год назад

I was using 4K at “scaled resolution” to look like 1440 (i.e. elements are as sharp as they can get with UHD). It takes more computing power to scale. With any pro MacBook/ Mac or M1 or later the scaling should bot be intense on the processor nor the RAMs). Most newer windows laptops/ PCs will also handle it like a champ. And you will also be able to scale text while running the full resolution. Now there is something called pixel perfect scaling (I am not sure it scales perfectly) however it was pleasing to look at.

@IvanoColtellacci Год назад

@@B.almakadma Thank you for your reponse, I have a Mac Studio that I use with the previous wacom cintiq 27 qhd (2560 x 1440) model. I can ues it in native resolution without any issue, text is readable. I know that Apple use a more CPU/GPU intense algorithm form scaling compared to Windows PC . Anyway according to the technical specification the new Wacom Cintiq 27 Pro take in charge 2560x1440@59.95Hz/120Hz (CVT). It is not clear to me if we can configure the wacom to use this resolution (using the native menu) in order to avoid the mac rescaling.

@B.almakadma Год назад

@@IvanoColtellacci I could not find any native menu configuration! (by native menu I am referring to the one you bring up by pressing on screen setting button the back of right upper corner). I hope this helps.

@IvanoColtellacci Год назад

@@B.almakadma Thank you very much for your time. Indeed I was wishing that there is a way to set resolution in the Cintiq in order to avoid macOS resampling the display. If you set the screen at 120Hz this happen 120 time for second, and this has probably an impact in video intensive applications... You can look at this video for a clear and practical explanation... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kpX561_XM20.html. (all the best)

@papolone Год назад

The Wacom overprice a lot her products, we expect that all parts work flawless but it's not. Drivers continue to fault, parallax on the edges and light bleeding displays (why not oled?). I have the first 21, the 24 pro and the 13, the situation has always been like this.

@f16madlion Год назад

in my opinion having used wacoms for 15 years the quality has dropped a lot and the pricing is like you dont get what you pay for any more, it feels like a 1200 usd product, the drivers are especially buggy and badly written, i really hope apple do a large format ipad

@produce86 Год назад

Should not have light bleed for that price. Ridiculous!

@gamesdog9067 2 месяца назад

There shouldn’t be any cons at that price.

@nelyrions1838 17 дней назад

You shouldn't be using this expensive pen tablets. These are designed for artists and animators that work 8+ hours a day and need a pantone certified display with a load of color modes... not writing notes or editing a video here and there. That's like buying a Königsegg to use it to drive to the local shop 3 times a week. There's plenty of drawing tablets that is not Wacom. Huion for example is scary close in terms of experience for 1/3 of the price. Wacom has alienated a major portion of their professional base. I'm a graphic designer and 3D animator and while i can get a huge chunk of the cost as a tax write-off and VAT free.. there is no way in hell i would pay that price... not even close. And i believe that should've been your line of thinking. Light bleed on a IPS panel is normal, but it looks like you got unlucky. And it will come to haunt you later when you decide to sell it to recuperate some of the cost. If you pay 3500+ dollars for a monitor with drawing capability, you should expect minimal light bleed. Should've returned it straight away to Wacom and told em to get you a better one. It is wholly unacceptable at this level.

@azumi5929 Год назад

I thought light bleed is only a problem in huion products... For that price, you should get a product replacement

@B.almakadma Год назад

Yes. definitely!

@1milomir Год назад

Turns out Wacom is now a shit company, move on to alternatives like Huion they are trying hard and improving. Cheers and thanks for the honest review, best of luck to you.

@tomjueris9972 Год назад

Am I the only one that has a pretty damn blurry screen?? Text has a pretty shitty blur around that looks like hd scaled to 4k

@marialuciazegarra685 Год назад

In some cases, that can be due to the connection between the computer and tablet, maybe you are using a cable adapter that doesn´t support 4k? Or if you are using an hdmi connection for example, make sure it is 2.0 and not less.

@tomjueris9972 Год назад

@@marialuciazegarra685 I used the ones provided by wacom as well as some 8k HDMI cables I had. I guess it is just Wacom. The Matte foil they have on it seems terrible for it and the fans are ridiculous. My gaming pc with max capacity does not make so much noise. Pretty damn disappointed especially at this price point. Wacom itself could also not help at all so they seem to not care. 4k for that service and product is just not worth it so I went now for a huion 24 and hope apple will some day go into this market lol. Thanks for the suggestion though, much appreciated!

@marialuciazegarra685 Год назад

@@tomjueris9972 yeah, my office was just about to get one for the design team, but after searching online for reviews we totally backed down. It's just not worth it.

@tomjueris9972 Год назад

@@marialuciazegarra685 i must however say the colour accuracy and nits are almost perfect on it. Comparing the huion 24 4k to it it’s worlds different. Wacom 27 was almost (just not as bright) as my studio display. Well. That’s it. If you need one as your main screen I would probably suggest going for the wacom. Using it as a secondary screen for all the handy work, don’t bother. Wacom 24 would do the same tbh. But there I’m still annoyed by the fans, as someome who does not love having earphones on all day. Basically what we need is apple to start doing bizz in this area 😫.

@marialuciazegarra685 Год назад

@@tomjueris9972 actually that's exactly what we are doing! We're getting a studio display as a main screen, and sticking with our old wacom 24 as a secondary screen, which actually works just as it did in day 1 and is fanless. It's great to have read that your opinion matches mine. thanks!

@Infinity_NFK 6 месяцев назад

You are not modeling anything which changes the way of using a Pen Display

@Gobolinn 4 месяца назад

astropad perpetual license for $150 + $799 ipad pro so much better than this overpriced drawing display

@ideiben3190 Год назад

I am wondering 'why' you chose to buy a tablet that is meant for illustration and artwork instead of focusing on reading and writing..? For art creation it is fantastic.

@B.almakadma Год назад

It saves me a lot of time and eye strain. There was a period of a few years where a minimum of 5 textbooks are open and I’m constantly going between them. The way i do the same process from a single large screen took sometime to perfect! There was history of graphics creation in the past; how I was introduced to all this ;)