Definently the EDX Pro X. The Merga is very bright and thin sounding, mostly only for people who like treble a lot.

Well, whats your budget range?

@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews 20$

You mean competitive? They should work fine, Imaging is pretty good on these and the BA-drivers do work well with showing you where something happens.

Never listened to the ZSN Pro X, but judging from the frequency response graph the Pro 2 should sound more balanced and less "edgy" with some instruments, also has abit better bass extension (more lower bass, less midbass that could muddy the sound). If it is between these 2, I would go with the ZSN Pro 2.

I do not think so. The EDX Pro X does not need much power to drive, and as long as you do not have a bad source that colours the sound in a negative way you should be fine running it in from your phone/computer. I do recommend getting at least a cheap dongle because it works more reliable with IEMs than some onboard dacs that are build in some computers. Something like the 7hz 71 works really nice. Non-detachable cable though, so do not bend it.

I like the Castor a bit more. Castor = more punchy bass, bit smoother but less clean midrange (still fine) ZSN Pro 2 = more balanced, better treble, sounds bit more natural

Yeah these are all pretty good choices. Most recently released budget IEMs are pretty good, its hard to really go wrong. Just have to watch out for the few outliers and some which have a very different sound like the newly released Merga from KZ (very bright and thin, treble focused).

Thank you too! Glad you like my videos. :)

Veeeeery different. Merga is a really bright and thin sounding IEM. Most people will like the EDX Pro X (the newest version of the EDX line) way more.

You are welcome! :)

Glad you found something you like that much. :) And yeah, they have alot of bass haha.

Thank you so much! Really appreciate your nice words. :)

It does seem pretty chunky, but I think its still fine. Its not a small IEM nor does it have a shallow fit, but I did not have issues with the Castor. If you are unsure, the EDX Pro X should fit well with smaller ears. I like the Castor a little more, but the EDX sounds good too.

Yeah, that’s why they’re so popular…….😊

Truthear Gate Review is coming, also comparing it to the new Tangzu Waner Studio Edition. :)

Yeah all the PR1 IEMs are pretty good. If you cannot tell the difference, you most likely have the Hifi version of the normal PR1. The PR1 "balanced" has alot more bass (too much for some) in comparison to the Pro and Hifi. Either way all of them are nice to listen too. And yeah, you already have quite a collection there, so many KZ IEMs. :D

Even cheaper headphones/iem is enough to play valorant. You wouldn't really need to buy expensive ones.

@@xLynxxx could you recommend some iems for valorant? im currently looking at kz zsn pro 2/ kz zex. would love to hear your opinions.

Which one do you mean? For the Castor? KZ always uses these qdc cables that are basically very recessed 2-pins (if I look on amazon I can find fitting ones under "recessed 2-pin" from Tripowin). The Galaxy MS-1 uses normal 2-pin. :)

Thanks! We are from Germany.

...I do not get what you mean? Please clarify.

Never listened to the DT 1990 Pro, but I have read a few times that the TYGR comes quite close. I think the bass on the 1990 is maybe better extended in the lower bass (at least it looks like that). Both have a good midbass boost, but the TYGR seems to be more boomy here and the 1990 has a flatter midrange (just going from graphs here). But yeah the Treble on the 1990 is quite emphasized haha.

Pro X should be better if you want a more natural sound. Still bassy, but less than the original and bettter with vocals/instruments.

Not available here. :(

Pro X is much better I have it it's even better than CRA Hola Waner etc If you want even clearer sound go with 7hz Salnotes Zero Mecha

Yeah the Pro X should be better, more overall clarity which helps alot of gaming.

Thanks for the tip! I did see these popping up on Amazon and was wondering about them.

For movies I think the Vader balanced and the Trio would be the best choice. They are very similar and have a pretty good V-shaped tuning with enough bass and clarity for movies and their soundtracks. Second maybe the ZS10 Pro 2, although I do not like it that much for music. Its still fairly well balanced and again has enough bass, especially with the switches. Maybe somewhat more clarity with dialog, which is not always preferable with movies because you usually want to have more "wow" with effects and stuff. The AS10 Pro can have an overly clean sound which can make voices/dialog sound quite harsh and all around kinda flat when it comes to effects. Although it is very technical, which can be cool for music. Would not recommend it for movies. Never listened to the Vader Hi-res.

@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews Ok thank you Bro 🙏👍🙂

@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews What about the AS10 Pro vs the ZS10 Pro 2 , for music?

​@@rudecatror AS10 Pro is a pretty specialized IEM, very bright and detailed. Can easily sound thin and harsh with female vocals for example. If you value clarity above all, these are worth a try. I thought they sounded interesting and were not as fatiguing as I thought, but nothing I would use regularly. The ZS10 Pro 2 is more balanced, should work for most genres. I do have to say I did not like them because the midrange was somewhat weird sounding, but they get good reviews from other listeners too. Nice bass though. You could also take a look at the Tangzu Fudu (warm sounding, like it alot) or the Simgot EA500LM (detailed and clean, but more balanced than the AS10 Pro) and I recently listened to and really liked the TRN ST7, which does have a bit softer and smooth bass (so it does not hit that hard, sounds more full) and sounds so nice with many genres. Also the KZ Vader is in the same price range. Good V-shape and "consumerish" tuning, nice bass and not too much treble.

@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews right on, thinking mainly for monitoring and performance - maybe the more balanced options as you’ve said. I’ll look into those, thank you

Yeah its quite good, especially for the price.

@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews well if sound quality good, then I'm gonna buy this. Hope this worth!!

It has less clamp force than the 560s.

Feels way less clampy to me than the 560s. Also has thicker padding.

Thank you! Yeah the 770 Pro is still a very good headphone. I would say the 700 Pro X is maaaybe a bit of an upgrade if you want a bit more bass and are bothered by the treble peak of the 770, but I have only listened to the 900 Pro X which I think is a great open back headphone. The 770 Pro X like I said in the review is really quite different, MUCH more bass and treble and no flat midrange. Maybe more of a WOW-factor at first because bass and treble clarity, but then you do notice the weirdness in the midrange. I do like the 620s a lot. Bit more natural sounding but still clear. I have never listened to the K371 and the Shure 840A, but the 840a is generally reviewed quite well since it follows harman pretty closely. But like you said, the 770 Pro is great and very enjoyable. Most them are kind of a sidegrade or a bit of an upgrade rather than night and day (as long as you do not prefer one tuning over the other).

@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews I couldn't resist and ordered the DT 700 Pro X and the DT 770 Pro X LE for comparison: To my ears, they are not better than the classic DT 770 Pro 80 Ohms. The DT 700 Pro X only have a touch flatter mid/upper mids, but lack energy in the lower mids/upper bass and sparkle in the upper treble. Lower treble can still sound annoying (e. g. cymbals, the DT 770 Pro handle them way better for me). And Soundstage is considerably more narrow. The DT 770 Pro X LE add the missing upper treble sparkle and soundstage back, but yes, they are much more V-shaped than the others. And they lack upper bass/lower mids as well, especially compared to the exaggerated lower bass, which buries the tone of bass guitars. Treble is the most annoying here. So in the end, for me, the only benefits of the Pro X models are the fact that they're much more efficient and easy to drive. They are still great, I still liked them much better than any other brands I tested. But for me they are no competition to the excellent DT 770 Pro. So no doubts anymore, I found _my_ closed-backs! 😁Especially since I also really value durability and repairability, which is something where most other brands just can't compete with Beyerdynamic at all (including Sennheiser, AKG and Shure).

Exactly! The missing upper bass and lower midrange makes some somehow sound more bassy and less bassy at the same time depending on the instruments. I also mentioned the weird weakness of some bass guitars in my other comparison. Out of the three, the 770 Pro seems the most natural sounding because it has just a little dip in the area where both other Beyers have a huge one. Glad you can finally sleep well knowing you have found a headphone you really like haha.

The AS10 Pro is MUCH brighter. The Red has a far more balanced sound. Better low bass. Realer sounding midrange (AS can sound thin and over the top with female vocals). The AS10 Pro does really well with separation and detail though. Its a pretty specialized IEM I guess.

Of course, no problem. I will try them with foam tips and get back to you soon. :)

​@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews tried it for you 😅 ordered a set along with foam tips. (had to glue the housing halves cause they were loose but no big deal) The stock tips def no good but the medium spring tip is pretty good all around. Foam tips though, for sure bring in some nice DD bass, or should i say keep it in. Doesn't seem to affect the rest of the frequency range too much though, if at all. 👌

MAN I AM SO SORRY :D I am so damn occupied with other stuff recently and I always came back here and said man I still have to try the foam tips this dude was asking for it. Thanks for trying it out yourself though! I actually never really use foam tips because I find them strangely uncomfortable, but I guess you have to give them time to get "in shape" for your ears. Glad you got an upgrade there in the bass sound. :)

What how was it that cheap? :D

You have to decide if you want to have open or closed headphones. Do you want to have the clearest and most even sound possible but hear everything from the outside? Is sound leakage not a problem? Then get open-backs. If you want sound isolation in both directions, or if you're looking for more energy in the bass at the expense of detail and clarity, then get closed-backs. The DT 770 80 Ohms should be a little more relaxed in the treble and probably a tiny bit more neutral in the bass, and a little less detailed compared to the 250 Ohms version. But it needs even more power to get loud, the 80 Ohms version is not a loud headphone already. But they sound awesome on my ears, and 80 Ohms easily get loud enough on a laptop headphone output. The 250 Ohms version need an amp, or at least a good external audio interface. The 700 Pro X are even more relaxed in the treble, cleaner in the mids, more pronounced in the bass, a little less detailed again, but should get much louder. The 770 Pro X have the sharpest treble, most recessed mids and most boosted bass while easily getting really loud as well. However, I only have experience with the DT 770 Pro 80 Ohms. In general, Beyerdynamic closed-backs sound less closed-in and wider than most other brands. The Sennheiser 560s are fantastic open-back headphones with a very linear response, especially for the price. And they are pretty easy to drive as well. But I haven't heard them either. I have the DT 880 Edition, which should sound comparable, and I prefer them over the DT 770 Pro when listening to music. I use the DT 770 Pro mainly when practicing/recording bass guitar, or when I want to block out some noise from the outside.

@VeitLehmann Hey, thanks for the help! I couldn't resist and already ordered the DT 770 Pro 250 Ohm. I own a good studio interface rated for 600 Ohm, so powering them shouldn't be a problem. If I don't like them, I'll return them and try the open-backs i have no problems with sound leakage. I'm not a bass head, so I'm not considering the 700x. I like to listen to pop-rock, so I value the clarity of instruments like drums and guitar, as well as vocals. If neither of the open-backs satisfies me, I'll try the Sennheisers.

@@Raikas Sound like a great fit, I hope you like them! However, every ear is different, so you have to try. For me, my DT 770 Pro 80 Ohms sound much more similar to my DT 880 Edition 600 Ohm (open-back, even if they're called semi-open) than to all the other closed-backs I have tried (Superlux HD 660 Pro and HD 662F, Sennheiser HD 280 Pro, AKG K-361 and K-182, and the t.bone HD 815). And I wanted something similar sounding, but closed and louder. I use them on a MOTU M4.

Damn thats cheap. Definently worth 4 dollars haha

Pretty comparable. Both seal well for me.

Thank you! Yeah I guess that really was their intention, updating the 600 Sound and putting it in a closed back.

Thanks alot!

Haha what do you mean with business? :D I had to re-record that section because there was some noise issue in the original so it sounds a bit clunky. And yeah they are not cheap, but I really like these and will definitely keep them. Will sell the Beyers probably since they are kind of redundant now.

@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews It means to get serious. For example two gentlemen arguing and then they roll their sleeves up to fight. You could say they mean business because it's getting serious. It was basically a joke as I saw that you had rolled your sleeves up albeit briefly. Yeah I thought you might keep them. I don't blame you and I'm a bit jealous. 😀

Ah now I get it! I did not even realize the sleeves situation haha. Sorry you had to explain the joke. :D The only thing (I tried to say this in a few different sections in the review) is that the bass is not that impactful or physical. It really sounds a bit soft, whereas for example the 770 Pro X has more bass impact. I am not bothered by what others say sounds boxy in the lower midrange. I do hear it a bit in some songs, but to be honest its really not that noticeable and for me all sounds pretty natural. I also read some reviews talking about the high clamping force. I had the 58x which felt WAY clampier than the 620s, and the padding is really good here. Its a closed back for noise isolation, it has to clamp a bit and at least to me it feels very average. But its not a loose sitting headphone, which some maybe prefer. Reading different reviews, opinions seem to be very divided. People saying mids are honky, others saying it basically sounds as good as their studio monitors. Some say treble is dull and they are not detailed, others say its very well extended but smooth. I read that they apparently measure different with different headshapes. I still think its a pretty good headphone with a slightly relaxed sound. Weird how different we can experience sound.

@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews My fault. I kind of forgot English isn't your first language, (as you speak it so well) so shouldn't have assumed you knew the expression. I'm sure I thought my 560s and 599s clamped a bit strong on first use. Nothing that bothered me though and it was probably because some of my other over ears were a bit loose fitting. But yes a closed back needs a bit of a clamp. So if you're not used to it you may complain a bit about the clamp force. Yes it is interesting how headphone reviews can be so mixed and even reviews that are complete opposites of each other. I think some major research is needed to fully explain it and I suspect there are multiple factors including maybe our brains do their own EQ!