Spent a few hundred dollars on Paul cantilever brakes, love them to bits. People prefer disc brakes because they have to justify their cost. And because someone else maintains them they work well, compared to poorly setup rim brakes they've fumbled up themselves.
I have both on bikes and would take hydraulic disk brakes any day. The rim brakes are low maintenance, are OK on flatish rides and are workable on the renovated retro style bike but the advantages stop there. For pure stopping power down big hills or in emergency situations and being able to lightly feather brakes over the hoods then disk brakes are king. Maintenance can be more challenging but I do it myself and have all the kit now so all good there mostly.
Got my first disk brake bike a few months ago.. the worst thing about them for me is how fast the brakes fade on the big hills in my town.. not that they stop very quick in the first place.. but my last bike with rim brakes, I could stop safely way quicker
Hydraulic discs on my mountain bike, cable rim brake on my BMX, and roller-rod rim brakes on my "road bike" because it's a 1976 Phillips Roadster. I bought that bike largely because I thought the roller-rod brakes were so cool.
Dinner plates on road bikes everyday! No worry on the wheel fading with its usage. And to invest large amounts of money on wheels to have them destroyed by rim brakes is absurd at best! Mineral Oil over DOT fluid everyday!
for any city bike: Rim brakes, I recently got a stern warning for my old racing bike with rim brakes: my aluminium rims are now very very thin up to the point of dangerous for fast descends (+50km/h) or other 'emergency / duration breaking'. as it also doubles as a daily bike occasionaly. So Disc brakes for performance racingor MTB bikes (especially muddy/rain/downhill) and pads for any non performance bikes, city bikes, daily rider.
I have some really snappy rim brakes on my folding bike, which would totally flip you over the handlebars if you wanted to. They are standard V-Brakes with just some good brake pads on them (20€ for all 4 pads). I also had some really crappy cantilever rim brakes with worn bowden tubes on another bike that barely stopped at all, which I converted to hydraulic rim brakes, which also brake well. I also have some disc brakes on my MTB, and while they work well, they do sometimes start to drag a little bit and were somewhat finnicky to set up. But I like that I can drive through mud without having completely scratchy brakes. I do just use some aliexpress disks and semimetallic pads, which work well and are cheap. The brakes themselve are Magura MT5 though.
On a MTB I would never use Rim Breaks. I am aware that it will be a lot more expensive, but for the type of riding I do, the precision and stopping power is very important. On a road bike? Sure.
I've been riding a gravel/commuter bike with Avid BB7s for about 8 years. I've only changed the pads once because it came with sintered pads and they take a ridiculously long time to wear out. Maintenance is almost as easy as with rim brakes. Plus the brakes are quicker to bite in wet weather than rim brakes. Last time I owned a road bike with caliper brakes I had some Swissstop all-weather pads that made a good amount of difference in wet weather (good pads made a bigger difference than fitting better calipers) but disc brakes are still better. I sometimes wonder how many rim brake purists ever ride in the rain.
Also a point that is important is the flexibility of the tyre size you get when using disk brakes. Of course the frame must allow it but you couldn’t to it with rim brakes
@@edmundas919 Thats not quite true. When using shimano tiagra or 105 etc. they don't allow more than 28mm tires. So switch from road tyres to a bite wider gravel tyres does not work. Of course, there are rim brakes that allow more clearance but many/most? bikes come with Shimano brakes stock.
It's simple really - Carbon wheels with rim brakes are G A R B A G E. - Literally anything else is great. Disc brakes or rim brakes on aluminum braking surface... both totally great. Just choose what you like and ignore the "controversy"
@@themarwanrahal that's what I mean by "aluminum braking surface." Either all aluminum or carbon with aluminum brake track. My personal favorite is HED wheels. HED Jet with that textured black aluminum track is perfection. But also love my modern disc brake bikes as well.
I like Mechanical disc brakes as opposed to Hydraulic disc brakes for the simple reason of relibility .Altho hydraulic systems have a greater stopping power If you have ever tryed bleeding a Hydraulic brake by the side of the road in the middle of nowhere ,in a thunderstorm at midnight you understand .
I second that. Had one of my hydro's pull lots of air at the side of a mountain once. I don't need that again. And since I don't do that hardcore downhill trail stuff, I don't need to stop within the diameter of a penny anyway. For my purposes I see no point in being able to lock up my wheels with a tiny squeeze of a finger. I much rather see a point in not losing my ability to brake altogether at once with no possibility to counter or repair that on the spot. As soon as they're full of air again, they come off.
My bikes are old, but once in a while I consider replacement. Will mechanical rim brakes avoid this hassle with brake fluid? Cables are not too hard to adjust.
If you’re getting Mtb just get hydraulics it’s worth the extra money and faff my friend has a cheap e bike and the cable disc brakes feel pretty bad, granted you can probably get better ones. Hydraulics don’t need bleeding that often anyway.
@@Yahs232 I'm not getting anything. I was just curious because he kind of blew off the cable disc brakes and went into the horrors of brake bleeding. I'll be satisfied with my old 90s steel bikes and their cantilever brakes for some time to come. Thanks for the response.
I don't ride it too often but I got around 2000 kilometres on my Cube LTD Hardtail MTB I got in 2013 and it's literally still on the original pads and rotors (180mm in the front, recently changed it with a 4-piston XT and Ice-Tech rotor and 160 in the back), already wasted a rear tire in just over a year because I was braking too hard on the rear when it was new. And I didn't have to do it yet, but I'm sure bleeding is pretty complicated the first times, but through learning by doing, you'll get familiar with it. Recently changed my tire and inner tube (the last time I did it was years ago) on my road bike and was really struggling, it surely took me 30+ minutes, but just last week I did it again and probably in 10-15 minutes. There also seem to be some hybrid disc brakes around, Triban (Decathlon) uses it on their budget road bikes with disc brakes, the brake/shift lever is a mechanical one and the cable goes down to the calliper, but there it doesn't pull the pads together, it actuates a hydraulic piston, they seem to feel more mechanical but still have a good bite.
I'm using hydraulic disk brakes on bikes since 2000. I don't really understand what the "hassle" is. This has to be a myth only roadies believe. You don't hassle with anything really, they just work and that's it. P.S: My road bike has 105 rim brakes, they're awesome.
I want nice rims, and I don't want my brakes to eat my nice rims. Using a non-replacable part of your bicycle as a braking surface is fundamentally flawed.
Unless your riding in wet and very dirty conditions where dirt is grinding the wheel down you will have no issues even on carbon wheels with the right pads
For most of us other things will wear out on a bicycle far quicker than a rim brake will cut through the rim. Today's bikes have planned obsolescence. Those rim brakes will, most likely, last longer than many of today's new bikes.
Sure, rim brakes for roadies is fine. At least is perfect for me (both for carbon and alloy wheels). If I had to buy some mtb or gravel - would aim for discs most likely. Not because I want//need to, but because offer of bike frames is simply bigger.
No brakes? In city traffic? That shit should 100% be illegal and you should get stopped and fined for it :)))) Ok you do have V-Brakes!, why you liyin?
I managed to get a felt track bike with 3 spoke specialized carbon fiber tires also the original set of felt rims and tires for 500, shit is to fun i run the build for Jimmy Johns bike delivery
"5 years down the line, it's probably going to be you". I don't think that's an issue. You have spent a big chunk of you life with something that is "meaningful to you". Having money to spend is often not the dream for people they hope it to be, because the money grew, but things you value stayed the same. So you have somewhat of a meaning crisis and get really depressed that you can't buy things that mean something to you (while your ego and pocket grew, with makes it even worse). You don't have that issue when you have to be conscious about the money or you grew with something you appreciate. We are no robots. Human psyche is complicated and reason, progress and modern life in general should accommodate to that to that not the way around.
