Highlights - (This is used for a reference for me whenever I come back to this video.) 1.) 0:39 - Always Trying to be Shot 2.) 3:33 - No Guards Outside FGZ 3.) 6:12 - Not Peeling Guards 4.) 8:30 - Not Considering Game Situation 5.) 10:28 - Ignoring Risk vs Reward
Terrific addition to the series. Thanks for all this content. My soccer season is coming to an end, so my mind is turning to the curling season ahead (my second overall and first full season). I'll be doing a binge of this whole channel as a refresh.
Fantastic! Can't wait for the rest of this series. After doing a Learn to Curl last season, I'll be skipping a team in my club's novice league next season. I've probably watched all of your strategy videos 3 or 4 times, and I have no doubt that this series will be the same.
Team Edin must have obviously trained on this type of stroke hundreds of hours. Both Edin and Eriksson have done this successfully in important competitions. A special technique is needed and the sweepers judge a different type of speed and trajectory. Impressive.
Pretty sure that they use it to help maintain balance while delivering the stone. If balance isn't maintained, it's easy enough to deliver an inaccurate shot.
well, the RR are done or all intent and purposes, there is only one draw left but there could be no practicl chane in rankings. Some takeaways: underperforming up untill now: Norway, USA, Denmark. Italy over performing. We'll see i in the playoffs we'll see some surprise: 4 Korea-5 Sweden 2 Italy-6 Denmark with 1 Canada and 2 Sitzerland going to Semifinals. Theoretical all these teams can win gold regardless of their result in RR.
As a Canadian, the idea that you can win your country's national championship, and have the association go "ehhhh we're going with someone else" is just complete bafflement to me.
I think Homan’s match against Hasselborg will set the tone early on. After watching Homan at the Scotties, I feel like she is in a great spot right now. As an American, however, I’ll be rooting for Peterson, of course.
Curling is a flawed sport. In no other sport is one team so favored as it is in curling! The team that gets the hammer through superior draws to the button gets the hammer and then is at least 60% likely to win the game! This is ridiculous!! If I got such odds in Vegas I could make millions in short order! The game needs to be changed to the shuffleboard format where if you do not score you lose the hammer! This would make the game far more exciting and competitive! And no more boring blanking of ends! I have watched curling and played for decades and this is a no-brainer! Bob
Nice video! A few extra thoughts for how we think about this situation on our team. When you're down a decent number of points (say >=3 or 4) to teams on tour, it becomes very difficult to come back and you've likely lost the game already. If you try to chip away at the lead with deuces and forces, it can still take 5-6 ends to be in a winnable situation, even if you play the rest of the game perfectly. So then the best strategy is to go all in for a big end, which requires junk. If your opposition happens to come up light on their first rock to top four we figure that they'll usually peel that guard and we'll be left with two corners + a rock buried at best (assuming they don't choke the guard). Likely only a deuce out of that, not ideal. So really we'd like to keep them from peeling that guard, so we throw a centre on it and hope that they miss some shots down the line, or we make some pistols. Here's an example of it working for a score of 4: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vOdHQL1GMXc.html (action starts at 1:31:22)
I have been part of a good club team where this did work. I was surprised when my skip deployed it. His thought was that peels later in the end created corner guards with their shooters. When we had the centre guards...they did not make great come arounds on the centres.... And when they tried to peel once they nosed the centre to drive our rock into the house for a counter and left us with a centre guard still and a couple of corner guards on previous peel attempts. We scored three to win by one. But I haven't used it again, nor seen anyone use it against me.
I love this concept. At my learn to curl league this week (with a volunteer from the club as skip, who plays front end in his league and uses this as skip practice), I was able to apply this lesson when advising on the first skip stone of a critical end (down 2, with hammer, second-last end). With a chaotic smattering of guards out front of a relatively open house, he was pondering a couple options, and I asked him what our opponent would do if it was their shot right now. He said they'd probably hit one of our rocks in the house and try to roll under, so I suggested we draw in front of that rock to take away the roll and leave a jam if they tried it (scoring area was big, so we had room to make it a counter). My skip played the weight perfectly, the opposition crashed trying to draw around the other side where we hadn't had much action, and we were able to score 3 to take a one point lead into the last end. Unfortunately, our opponents played great with the hammer in the last end, scoring 2 and winning the game, but that's not important. No shame in losing to someone that simply makes the shots they have to when the pressure's on. What matters is that by applying the Null Move, we gave ourselves a good chance to win. Thanks for sharing your wisdom. Good curling!
The free guard zone rule is changes in recent years are awful. Theyve ruined the game. I'm just kidding. what strange spam to receive. Great video. Spot on on the never peeling guards. My league play I find 90% of teams to be allergic to peeling.
The rule is not all bad but the need to change the game to make it more compatible for television needs to be done very carefully. Let us be sure we do not turn chess on ice into checkers.
this change definitely goes the opposite direction form that, ticks really are not hard, even for club players, this adds a ton more skill and strategy to the game.
Discovered your channel a couple days ago, and have devoured your content. Best strategic videos I've found by a long shot. Your chess background shines through with your ability to think several moves ahead, and the sheer number of examples and alternatives you cover in each video is staggering. I'm new to curling this year after being a TV fan for 20 years, and I am completely in love with the sport. I think it was only my second time sliding out of the hack at my club's Learn To Curl that I thought, "yep, this is exactly as fun as I thought it would be. I'm going to play this game for the rest of my life." I've skipped one time, and while it was understandably not good, haha, I definitely feel the desire to learn to do it properly. I love this kind of deep-dive content so that I've got a lot of information buried in my brain that hopefully can come out at the right time when I'm out on the ice. Keep up the great work, and good curling.
Teaching and learning is about reinforcement of good habits and ideas. You can understand all the terms and watch dozens of professional games, but that doesn't mean you'd necessarily recognize why something was done in a certain way. I personally enjoyed this video a lot since it explains less intuitive strategy that'll hopefully become second nature down the road.
I was in high school when I watched this unfold on tv. At the time I remember thinking that the Ryan rink was celebrating too early. I also remember that it seemed like Don Duguid was openly rooting against the Hackner rink. What an incredible shot! Hackner looked like he could fall asleep, he was so calm and relaxed.
I think new skips can really benefit watching little details of the opposing throws -- how's the ice responding -- maybe do the same throw they just did with a small change -- etc. etc.
Thank you very much for the info, I started my second skip year yesterday and thrill to learn tips and info from your Channel! Little question here, we were playing without the hammer with two of our rocks in splitted top 12, 10 feet apart...where should I put a third one, my last shot before the closing rock....would like to ear your...expertise. thanks.
One variant I've encountered is trying to nose hit the top four rock with leads first and then plan a corner guard on the leads second shot. This ensures a worse stone in the house from the non hammer team, and therefore less threat of steal. As an added bonus the guard zone is in play for the corner guard, but not for the other teams upcoming guard which can be immediately peeled if desired. (As added bonus the hit on first stone is pretty safe, rolling out doesn't really worsen the outcome while the other team hitting can't roll out or get a bad position)
Thanks for the video! Ine observation: around here no-tick rule gets enforced even in pretty recreational leagues and bonspiels. How is it where you usually play?
New skip this season, I used chat GPT to print out a little notebook to remind me of the best/standard moves for different scenarios. Super helpful as a beginner skip! Thanks for your vids Ed! They are going to pull us out of "C" division this year! :D
Just found this channel, absolutely love all the content! If you're in need of ideas, I can't seem to find a video on how to directional sweep. I would love to watch a tutorial on how to sweep for curl. Keep up the great content!
