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@@khepamunda3467 I threw 15.40’s with the 16lb shot. Not earth shattering of course, but I had no coach. That’s why I started coaching in the first place.
Just a fast question I'm helping my son with the glide and he dose glide well start low could go lower and could kick his back legs a bit harder and tuck it in more so he's half rotated when he lands the kicking leg bit one thing iv noticed is that's when he wipes his left hand round and up ! Then pushes the shot up and rotates he comes off the floor any help on how he can stop that iv not said anything to him because I need the glide fast
More than likely it is either a bad habit that he is "jumping and throwing" from doing other sports that involve throwing a ball (like baseball, football, etc) and that needs to be trained just like the other aspects of the throw. Or his feet are too wide and his power foot is not under him enough which is causing the foot to come up before he throws. So you can try to get the power foot more under him in the power position, or keep training the habit of heeling the power foot down until after he releases the shot.
@@EliteThrowsCoaching I'd love to send a vidio ar you on any other social media. He's got a welsh school boy championships this weekend he doesn't cum off the floor mutch so the power leg closer to toe bord ye ? The kicking leg he's comeing along well but very true like what you said with him playn basketball rugby and football thank you
that is the most common problem in throwers learning the full throw movements, and quite possibly the most difficult defect to correct. the idea that yanking the left arm around "helps" the spin can take seasons to fix, and some never fix it at all who then wonder why their distances never improve. a famous discus champion, Al Oerter told the group at my son's 1st clinic, "if your throw sucks at the end, FIX the beginning". and this simple fix will allow the rest of the throw's movements to fall into place correctly. mess up this initial step and the rest of the movement and delivery suffers.
I agree with the having the disc along the ridges of the fingers. It gives more contact surface area allowing for a better grip and really rip the disc. Arete throwing or whatever coaches the other way you showed which didn’t make sense. Glad you made this vid.
I like Eric at Arete. I’ve never seen his discus grip video. I’ll need to take a look. This is how I’ve always taught it. List of huge throws this way.
Ok so I just found it. In Eric’s defense, it looks like he has very long fingers. Like he can almost palm the 2kg. I have a big palm with above average fingers. His first digits (where his nails are) looks much longer than mine. Grip is very personal based on hand and finger size.
Matt, you have a great talent of being able to explain this stuff and do it in a way that is very understandable......keep it up and good luck this year with all the future Champions you will be helping and coaching up this year! God Bless!
Hello coach ... I'm 53 years old. I want to participate in masters athletic meet. Now I'm throwing more than 20 mts in discuss throw. Every day I'm doing practice. Unfortunately i can't find further improvement. What to do😢
Going to try to implement these practice layouts for my middle schoolers. Only in my second year coaching, so it has been difficult for me to go back to the beginning with the kids that have never touched a shot in their life. Already partway through the practice season and meets in a little under 2 weeks but I see so many things that I don't think about myself any more and just do naturally but my kids don't understand. Weather has been bad this week so going to take the next couple of days to go back to basics with drills on the lines!
This is my first year coaching middle school as well! It is quite the change compared to high school athletes. I’ve come to the realization that with bad weather and school vacations and high school meets interrupting practices and a whole host of other issues, if my middle school throwers can end the season knowing 5 to 8 really big, great habits, my job has been a success!
To keep my sweep long and foot low my coach liked to use a traffic cone in place of the bucket, but he would put two of the small green plyo hurdles on their side for me to kick my foot through. If I hit the hurdle and sent it flying, my leg was too high and it usually stung the toe that hit it pretty good. I appreciate the coaching series as they're certainly helping this first year coach try to get kids throwing as far as they'd like.
We sometimes do that as well. About 13 years ago John Godina came to my gym to do a seminar about rotational technique and he showed the mini hurdle standing up drill just like you’re describing.
@@EliteThrowsCoaching My HS coach went to a camp put on by Art Venegas when he was in HS, and then met Godina a few times. So I'm assuming the two got it from the same guy. He also had me doing wall drills quite a bit, and I'm not sure which one showed him that one.
Nice video thanks. I think a better car analogy is trying to break a speed record within a given distance ( or within a given rotation, 360). e.g. Say racing on a drag strip or a salt flat before you run out of distance. Its not the shortest time or who finishes first that matters... its who achieves the highest speed at the finish line wins (achieving the highest launch speed of whatever you are throwing ). Its the aggregated 'acceleration' over a given rotational distance that matters. I think that you can only effectively apply the torque to accelerate rotationally while both feet are planted, so if you are doing that big wide leg rotation, you aren't effectively accelerating your rotational speed during that time... its mostly wasted time.. I think maximizing time when both feet are on the floor is the key.... Which matches up with your comments about moving the foot through quickly..... does that sound right ?
So, which way do I teach it first? Close and then slap or slap and then close? Another one of your videos that I watched that was to help keep the power like grounded longer had the slap first and then the close but this one shows the close first, and then the slap.
Good question. If I have a lot of time like at a track camp, I teach the ground, close, slap, pull, shift, push. This way I can take an hour or more to work on it (equal to one day of practice at a high school). If you're short on time like many throws coaches that only get an hour or two a week, you can teach them to happen simultaneously like grounding and slapping at the same time.
