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@Blueparle
@Blueparle 7 часов назад
Can you do Carrie white
@aquatic_mar
@aquatic_mar 12 часов назад
"trans boys are girls who have been made insecure in their womanhood thinking that it would be better, cooler, more respectable to just be a man instead" perfectly describes naoto shirogane from persona 4. his arc is basically mulan, he presents as a man, he uses the male uniform; he did voice training to make his voice deeper; he even binds his chest (with bandages, which is pretty unsafe); his shadow (that represents his deepest insecurities) wants to medically transition but then turns out that he did that because he wanted to be taken seriously as a detective since it's a male-oriented sexist occupation!!!!!! yet after this is revealed, naoto is still shown to be uncomfortable with being femenine and even keeps binding and using the male uniform. you can romance him in the game, and the route is basically you forcing him to be and dress more femenine (in the japanese version you even force him to make him stop talking with "boku" pronoun that is used only by boys) in the end, he accepts himself as a girl and ends that way in canon, but there's still some persona fans (myself included) who see naoto as a trans man, which made his gender a debate in the fandom...
@elliart7432
@elliart7432 10 часов назад
Congrats, you introduced a video game ick I didn't even know I had
@j.b.5422
@j.b.5422 8 минут назад
nah crossdressing against sexism is different.
@creamymintchicchip8454
@creamymintchicchip8454 14 часов назад
13:57 I once had a female English teacher who called the class sexist for talking in her class. We weren’t even talking over her, only while she was setting up her computer This is kinda unrelated but she was also the same teacher who started off an assembly on breast cancer by making everyone write down slang for breasts and making jokes about checking yourself for breast cancer which made everyone speak about the topic as if it was sexual
@elliart7432
@elliart7432 10 часов назад
That sounds so gross and uncomfortable, I'm sorry. What a creepy weirdo
@AC-dk4fp
@AC-dk4fp 15 часов назад
That director talking about wanting to make things annoy me so much from purely a narrative film maker perspective. Its like she(?) wants a critic to do her job for her and write a more interesting interpretation than she can be bothered to put into her art. If you add depth to a story it will lead to multiple interpretations on its own. Or worse she made a anti-transgender story and wants transgender viewers to absolve her of that by producing forced trans positive readings. I have also made a film about a subtextually queer character that I thought might be ambiguous but was forced to realise that no I had just made a very simple story about a character who lies and there was no ambiguity or even subtext involved. The directing actors book on the film school reading list said clearly that actors can be told to lie in character but can't be told to give ambiguous performances so I gave them firm answers to what was happening and the short film only worked because there was a story and the actors performed it. If you must make something ambiguous then actually use ambiguous poetic imagery not dialogue which is either a direct statement or a lie. Or just cut to credits on the character opening their mouth so their answer is literally ambiguous I mean Inception did this and got people talking for a year afterwards its not an obscure technique. Or give her a gender ambiguous name in the first place I mean its not hard. I don't think its wrong to make a story about a child or adolescent who ends in an ambiguous place but that's very different from telling an ambiguous story since it needs to have a concrete ending where the character's incompleteness or lingering confusion is clear. If you really want to be the director of ambigious movies and make open to interpretation art just shut up and don't do interviews.
@elliart7432
@elliart7432 10 часов назад
It would've been SO easy to just cut to black instead of answering Laure. I don't wanna rag on this lady but she really came across as so pompous
@Mecharnie_Dobbs
@Mecharnie_Dobbs 15 часов назад
Maybe Laure isn't trans or cis, but just doesn't care.
@elliart7432
@elliart7432 10 часов назад
Then it should've cut to black, had them say something along the lines of "either, I don't care.", etc. You can't just... GIVE an answer then call it ambiguity. That's not what that word means 😂
@YourQueerGreatAuntie
@YourQueerGreatAuntie 17 часов назад
Really interesting, thanks for making this video! Reading the comments reminded me of the novel "The Raven Tower" by Anne Lecke. It features a trans-masc lead character, but since I'm cis fem (as is the author) I can't speak to how it would read to an actual trans masc person. I'd be really interested to hear a trans perspective on it! Keep doing what you're doing x
@sparkmaster3748
@sparkmaster3748 18 часов назад
There's a manga called "Boys Run the Riot" with a trans male protagonist. Highly recommend it.
@nisc2001
@nisc2001 19 часов назад
Trans masc characters being under represented in media in general frustrates me. i've recently come out as trans masc and the length of time it took me to get there is frustrating. When i learned that being trans was even an option it was all about trans women. i learned about drag queens well before drag kings. i found so much media with amabs dressing up or becoming women and the best i got for the other way around was afabs either just not caring (thank you haruhi from ouran highschool host club) or playing the man because it had some specific benefit. i had to go out looking to find that trans men even existed. i think that's also driven by the patriarchal cis society that we live in. because women are seen as a lesser status it's more shocking to point at trans women and be like GASP someone WANTS to be a woman and give up male privilege for frivolous things such as dresses and long hair???? but with trans men it's just seen as oh....they want to strive for a level of privilege given to men and conform to the better half of society, sure, i guess they can try. the patriarchy just tends to put far more attention on the doings of amabs as opposed to afabs because it's so much more used to elevating amabs. Trans women get painted as shocking and horrible while trans men get painted as oohh look so cute he wants to be people. because afabs are constantly underestimated and underprioritized. they complain about the amabs in womens bathrooms but not the other way around. frustrates me to no end. sorry for the kind of rant but god do we need more trans masc rep and we need to be fucking aggressive about it.
@AleksoLaĈevalo999
@AleksoLaĈevalo999 21 час назад
Thank you for teaching me about the option of being gender-apathetic as a distinct gender option for a person.
@gorgonc8036
@gorgonc8036 22 часа назад
I love trans people, I love being trans, I think this like 100 times a day we are so cool I don’t know how people can hate us so much
@wednesrory
@wednesrory День назад
ohhh my god thank you so much for making this video. hearing somebody else say the thoughts ive been having is so validating lmao. ive always been super frustrated with wanting so badly to embrace masculinity but always having to turn around and be like "but women are cool too guys!!". i dont think people realize how harmful it is to demonize men and masculinity, and how that often stems from the same roots that make transphobia and misogyny. and on an individual level... i just want to exist. and be a guy while doing it. anyway, all this is to say: thank you for making this, you've made me feel very Seen.
@dragonslayer101
@dragonslayer101 День назад
You also need to watch fanfic and 3 generations (i think thats what its called?) Both are movies. Only issue is im prety sure both are portrayed by cis women....of course. 🙄
@AnEntropyFan
@AnEntropyFan День назад
One minor/nitpicky complaint. This is 2024, not 1974 - it should be noted "TERFs" are now overwhelmingly dishonest anti-feminists and pick mes pretending to be feminists very unconvincingly. There's like 6 remaining honest old school "radical feminist" sex-essentialist (a cornerstone of patriarchy) crackpots who honestly indeed think of themselves as feminists and aren't a cryptofascist/cryptotraditionalist psyop against women's (cis and trans alike) rights, while the few pick me tokens are indeed put front facing it's 99.99% just angry misogynistic men who yesterday mocked women's sports and SA culture and now really "care" about "women's safety" and "women's sports". The French woman from the first segment for example; it would appear that she just isn't all that familiar with trans people and is just politically lukewarm and ideologically/philosophically lazy, rather than being a "TERF". TL;DR point being, we shouldn't give an inch to a disingenuous anti-feminist charade. I mean, their main mascot is quite literally a woman who hid her identity as such for years and used a masculine moniker so she could reap all those patriarchal nerd culture (and it definitely was that in the absolute in the 1990s) bucks, and who also kept silent (assuming she didn't just make it all up) for decades about her abuse at the hands of (cis) men - until she could use it to blood libel and scapegoat (trans) women. Curious, innit...
@cloudy-siro2470
@cloudy-siro2470 День назад
trans guy here I hate with my whole soul when they talk about trans guy in this "You're just a mysoginistic girl." "Why can't you just be a masculine girl? It'll be way easier for you!" STFU. Easier for who? Me, the one represing himself for you to not be uncomfortable for having to be around with someone diferent? Or you, the terf?
@DaMrWiz
@DaMrWiz День назад
This isn't even just a trans thing, media seems to shy away from LGBTQ+ men (well, maybe not L but you get the point) as a whole. As a trans woman, the lack of trans male representation puts this idea in the back of my mind that trans identities are only valid when they're sexy to a straight male audience, and I find that endlessly frustrating.
@elliart7432
@elliart7432 20 часов назад
@@DaMrWiz oh my gosh I never thought about it that way
@aliastrae
@aliastrae День назад
I’ve just found your channel and I just wanna say I really love your videos and energy! (Great background noise for working on last minute artfight revenges)
@elliart7432
@elliart7432 День назад
@@aliastrae thank you! I’m glad it’s kicking off well, was really self conscious
@ALiteralClown69
@ALiteralClown69 День назад
crazy how transmascs are hardly ever represented in media meanwhile i hc every character i like enough as transmasc aaaand most of my ocs are transmasc the main character of the book im writing is probably gonna be transmasc too (tho that wont really be brought up much)
@_anonymous_creature_
@_anonymous_creature_ День назад
I want more transmasc rep 😢
@nabuchodonosormcgalapatram6941
About gender neutral pronouns in French, my guess is that since it's the gender of the word that we're using to speak about someone that matters, independently of the gender of that person (like how "personne" will always be feminine and "individu" masculine), historically speaking, there wasn't a big need for gender neutral pronouns, big miss if you want my opinion, but it is what it is. Although, we technically do have a gender neutral pronoun, sort of, in the form of "iel", but I don't like it because it's just a fusion of "il" and "elle", instead of being truely gender neutral like the English singular "them"...
@elliart7432
@elliart7432 День назад
@@nabuchodonosormcgalapatram6941 thanks for putting this in the comments! It’s good info to add to the discussion
@HangryOnPaws
@HangryOnPaws 2 дня назад
Transmasc here. Yes thank you. Holy shit I needed to hear someone talk about this. (Ramble in-coming) The invisibility of transmascs in the media hurt me so much when I was in the egg stage. For years I didn't even know you could be transmasc and what little potential rep I got was excused as just being a tomboy or needing to disguise as a boy for a reason then being glad to remove it later (Mulan, She's The Man, Buffalo Soldier, The Breadwinner etc). Which I've noticed is how a lot of transphobes see us. As scared little girls or as delusional tomboys having a phase. But y'know what rep cracked my cracked my egg once and for all? A very masculine DnD character I was playing as. And I think that's part of the answer, if we can't get good rep we make our own. And most importantly we make every kind of transmasc rep we can think of. Let's have transmasc adventurous fantasy heroes, hot transmasc love interests, menacing transmasc villains, edgy transmasc antiheroes and funny transmasc sidekicks. Let's be as loud and obvious as we can. Because we're not one thing or one trope. We're people. We're strong, we're alive, we're eternal.
@elliart7432
@elliart7432 День назад
@@HangryOnPaws and you know what? Give us more eggs, dammit! I had no idea what I was experiencing was transness for so long cause every story I ever heard of a trans person was that “they always knew” or they’re miserable every waking moment of their un-transitioned lives
@cavedwellertogore2206
@cavedwellertogore2206 2 дня назад
as a transmasc enby, i do get some WACK opinions from people. people in private discord servers (that i've since left) have been fine with me being transmasc, but then gotten "okay but WHY? not everything is about you being trans!!!" type responses when i post art of my fursona, who has markings resembling top surgery scars. I haven't had top surgery (yet!!), but my "idealised self" isn't a cis man. i want to be proud of being trans, i don't just want to be a man and that's that. "why does your fursona have top surgery scar markings?" because he's supposed to represent me, not who i could've been if i was born a man. because i want to be visible, so that trans guys who aren't out to anyone yet can feel seen, so that they can feel like they belong, something that the disproportionate amount of "oh but you can still be a woman and gnc" (a good message, but when there's so little transmasc rep it's. ehhh sometimes) doesn't give them. i want to be the person i wish i had growing up. i want to be the REPRESENTATION i didn't have growing up the point here is basically there's so many people out there who aren't fine with wider, visible representation of us, which sucks. that sure, we as individuals can be trans, but if we try to let it be seen outside a pronoun marker and an "im trans" in an intro post, it's "too much" and we're "hurting poor, confused little girls who might start wrongly believing they're trans"
@toby1004
@toby1004 День назад
i think a lot of that stems from the 2010s idea that while all transfems were aggressors in one way or another, whatever fit the person's narrative, all transmascs were just inherently attention seeking and that was that. (i will say a lot of transfems get this shoved in their face too, but typically i, as someone who decidedly is not a woman or fem adjacent, have mostly seen it portrayed as less of an attention grab and more as some sort of powerplay or something related to the agp claims.) if you weren't around at the time, it was basically the norm even in certain trans communities to view being nonbinary (the only possible way to be transmasc, obviously /s) as a thing that only happened to people assigned female at birth, as a sort of 'in' so they could keep the 'benefits' of being supposedly seen as special and different while, also supposedly, not having to do any of the heavy lifting of a medical transition and/or being able to keep the parts they liked about being (viewed as) a girl i.e. wearing galaxy print leggings and flower crowns or using tumblr and reading mlm fanfiction (something only a woman would do /s) the belief isn't nearly as commonplace as it used to be (the radfems fixed that for us😀now we've all been manipulated!) but i think a lot of people still have the idea internalized to some extent, even would-be progressives/allies. remember kids, misogyny inherently effects all sides of the trans community! side note, but i think that design choice for your fursona is super cool! i would like to humbly ask for permission to attempt something similar for my own sona, if it wouldn't bother you
@cavedwellertogore2206
@cavedwellertogore2206 День назад
@@toby1004 yeah, it did seem to hold a lot of internalized "it's for attention" bias, with a sprinkle of "think of the children!!1!!111! (proceeds to not listen to any child ever)" in there, for extra flavour of course. feel free to use that design choice on any of your sonas, too! you specifically, other people reading this comment, whatever, you may give your sonas top surgery scar markings if you want, even if you're not a trans masc of any kind. im not going to stop you, just, y'know, try to be respectful
@Falinefan
@Falinefan 2 дня назад
There is one in Mandelbrot hall by flipping studios
@elliart7432
@elliart7432 День назад
@@Falinefan bro I’m SO hyped for that! (If anything just cause it’s a cool idea honestly)
@via9471
@via9471 2 дня назад
Speaking as a trans woman here, who isn't well versed about trans masc representation, but that idea, that because you wanna dress feminine means you must be a woman or the other way around is so tiring. We assert clothing so much dominance in how we think of people and like, people know about tomboys and femboys by now, so what's so complicated about a trans masc femboy??
@toby1004
@toby1004 День назад
no point in objectifying us as femboys if we don't have the right naughty parts😔😔😔/s
@mich_elle_x
@mich_elle_x 2 дня назад
I think the visual novel "The House in Fata Morgana" have quite a good trasmasculine representation.
@KaidenZvek
@KaidenZvek 3 дня назад
I know it's pretty niche, but I would like to recommend the web comic "Aurora" by Red from Overly Sarcastic Productions since one of the protagonists is a binary trans and gay man. To be fair, Dainix is not part of the story from the very beginning but once he shows up he proves to be very powerful and useful to the team. He falls into the category of "just happens to be trans" and has-for lack of a better word-finished his physical transition (magic was involved as this comic belongs to the fantasy genre). I really like him as a character in general and I appreciate the fact that he gets to run around essentially topless for most of the time and just be his masculine self while also sporting long hair(he is also not the only man of the protag group to have such long hair). Aurora features other types of queer characters too and Red has stated that in this universe bisexuality is essentially the default. I would like to note though, that you shouldn't go into it expecting much romance, as the creator is (aro?)ace and isn't all that interested in/doesn't feel comfortable with/doesn't feel like she understands enough about these types of relationships. The only hint of romance up until this point has been between Dainix and one of the other protags(who is gay but cis). (Aurora has its own website which you can find by googling just "comic aurora")
@elliart7432
@elliart7432 2 дня назад
@@KaidenZvek I love red! (Mostly her trope talk series), I had no idea she was a comic artist
@cervidae3291
@cervidae3291 3 дня назад
[EDIT] I want to make another recommendation. if you can stomach the content warnings in Fujimoto's Fire Punch, *please* give it a try. It's got one of my favourite trans men ever. He's messy and cruel and very definitely crazy but everyone in Fire Punch is, really. What brings him back down to earth for me is the thing that humanizes him to the reader IS his transness and trans manhood, and he and the main character bond very hard and close through that. And he doesnt retcon his feelings about himself either!! He goes by a mix of gendered titles and honorifics, but he is always a trans man!! Once again, I've never seen this happen before, especially in manga. Fujimoto (also wrote Chainsaw Man if his name sounds familiar) writes absolutely fuckin' fantastic characters and whenever he tackles gender, no matter which direction that goes in, its always with so much heart. Please give Fire Punch a try. The central theme is overcoming suicidality. I think its a very important manga. You can tell how much Fujimoto loves writing stories in every panel imo, but especially through Fire Punch watching Blue Eye Samurai and then attempting to look at what the creators and fans have been saying about it nearly drove me and my tboy ass to insanity. I dont understand how the creators could write a character so obviously and OVERTLY transmasculine, complete with both physical and social dysphoria, who we see ACTIVELY IDENTIFY WITH OTHER MEN (ifykyk!!!!), and then try to hammer home that Mizu is a cis woman who's rejection of 'her' femininity is only do to the society he's been born into. not only is that an insanely common transphobic (and specifically transandrophobic) narrative, it really spits on actual real life gnc and butch women too! and tbh every single Japanese woman and queer person in the history of the country! I saw so much of myself, my past, and my transition in Mizu. Every single episode I saw reflections of myself in him. I felt seen in a piece of media for the first time, especially when he tried to compcis himself. I highly, *highly* recommend watching Blue Eye Samurai because while the creators talk about their work in a very sloppy manner, all of the emotions are there in the actual show. just don't attempt to dig deeper into it like I did, you won't have a good time. the fandom is insanely transphobic and racist atm
@floued
@floued 3 дня назад
agh i love the film tomboy, it's bittersweet with the ending for sure and there's definitely bias despite the ending being 'up to interpretation'. i always make sure to rewatch it since it feels like a true and honest representation of how a child might explore gender identity and the lack of control one has at a young age to do anything about it when confronted by an adult/parent. it's a hard ending to watch but it is really relatable in my experience to how easy other people can force one to go back into the closet and be 'normal', and i hope that the film makes the viewer think deeply about the whole film and character of micheal before making their mind up on what the ending means. hope that makes sense i rarely see people mention this film so it was a huge surprise and just had to comment about it :) i've tried to find/watch every single ftm film/series, and the only recommendations would be to watch DRUCK season 3 (but all the seasons are a good watch for non-trans plotlines), just a highschool romance with drama along the way. i'll avoid spoiling :) and romeos (2011) since it's hard to find young adult representation of ftm guys and love the inclusion of packers and gender envy since it's rarely mentioned compared to other tropes of binding/T/etc!
@thepyro5913
@thepyro5913 3 дня назад
Even a cis man it drives me up a wall, that when trans people are shown or discussed it seems like it's ALWAYS trans women. Yes they deserve to be shown and talked about too, but it just seems like when the topic of trans issues or characters comes up the spotlight seems to just focus on trans women.
@samuzamu
@samuzamu 3 дня назад
Great video! Being agender, not being a boy and therefore having to be a girl, felt just like I felt growing up. I had a lot of dysphoria, but no concept of how to feel right, so I just followed the predifined path to transgender care and social transition while trying to make myself believe I really was a girl but always feeling like I was just performing a role. Only the last couple years have I embraced my non-binary social role and started feeling like myself.
@raspberri_myx6637
@raspberri_myx6637 3 дня назад
If you want a transmasc-enby story, might I recommend "The Story of Silence" by Alex Myers? It's a retelling of a 13th century poem about an AFAB child who's raised as a boy to circumvent an inheritance law and ends up taking to a "male" life of a knight. *SOME SPOILERS BELOW, PROCEED WITH CAUTION* The original tale definitely falls into the "erasure" mold, unfortunately. On the one hand, Silence themself only really grapples with what gender they're "supposed" to be once early on (portrayed as a conflict between their Nature and their Nurture) and otherwise seems perfectly happy living as a man (their only concern is another character trying to seduce them who risks discovering their birth sex). On the other hand, the climax hinges on them being a "woman" (they need to find a wizard who's under a curse that only a "pure maiden" can break), and once their secret is found out the poem goes the Tomboy/Wandering Son route and scrubs them of all masculinity. Myers (who IIRC is a trans man himself) decided to revise these bits. In "The Story of Silence," Silence actually has to deal with the knowledge that although they could never consider themself a man (and want the traditionally male career of "knight"), they don't fit neatly into manhood either. They show pretty significant signs of dysphoria when they first begin puberty, and at multiple points acknowledge that they don't really fit in anywhere. While the "curse that can only be undone by a pure maiden" bit is still used, the wizard in question tells them afterward that those who have an affinity for magic are typically people who are "in-between" in some way - say, someone who's neither man nor woman. (It's this moment where Silence finally begins to solidify their identity.) More importantly, Silence doesn't just default to living as a woman afterward. The bard that they tell their story to _claims_ that they did, to make the story more "approachable" and to keep other people off of Silence's trail, but Silence themself is off living their best life as an enby.
@muggz7752
@muggz7752 3 дня назад
Doesn’t pertain to me,RU-vid do better
@elliart7432
@elliart7432 3 дня назад
youtube, keep being gayer
@toby1004
@toby1004 День назад
stop clicking and then commenting on videos that don't pertain to you dude. you are actively worsening your algo just to be snarky
@darkflame728
@darkflame728 3 дня назад
I love that Paranormal Park was mentioned. Barney was treated like such a normal character and it was refreshing. 😄 For nonbinary characters, my fav is Raine from The Owl House. They're a cool side character and they're in a relationship with one of the mains. It was nice to have a nonbinary character that wasn't some sort of alien or robot.
@kaytionalexa945
@kaytionalexa945 3 дня назад
Atm I am working on redesigning oc’s for a webcomic with a good chunk of transmasc characters (like about 2 and maaaaaaayyybbbe 3 or 4-ish) and I was absolutely flabbergasted to see a lack in media. It makes me more happy that I created them now :D
@elliart7432
@elliart7432 3 дня назад
Yay!! I'm really excited to see more out there!
@hhuuhhhh8
@hhuuhhhh8 3 дня назад
uuuughh thank you for this video, I’m so done with us being nonexistent in media
@elliart7432
@elliart7432 3 дня назад
For real though
@TurbopropPuppy
@TurbopropPuppy 3 дня назад
It's crazy to me that transmasc representation was more common in the 80s (such as in shows like The Golden Girls) than forty years of meandering progress later
@WellThinkOfATitle
@WellThinkOfATitle 3 дня назад
I'm in the homestuck fandom and there's a character who COULD end up transfem in the in-progress official-but-explicitly-non-canon sequel and a lot of people obsess over that fact and treat them like they've been transfem all along (as in, including in the original comic canon) and one other character whom Word Of God says is transfem (in the original comic) that a lot of people obsess over as well (also me and my friend hate her but it's for other reasons). Then there's a character who was a girl in the original comic but is transmasc in one of the official-but-expilicitly-non-canon-sequel timelines but most people ignore that and headcanon they were transfem all along instead all based on one tiny little detail in her intitial introduction? plus one character whom Word Of God says is transmasc (again, in the original comic) that i hear very little people talk about.
@cervidae3291
@cervidae3291 3 дня назад
@WellThinkOfATitle i know exactly what youre going through im also a hs fan. been here since the first act was still being published so ive seen some crazy stuff. when i read That Part For That One Character in the epilogues i was OVERJOYED, especially bc his transition and feelings about himself looked a lot like mine! i think that introspective paragraph in candy was also beautifully written and with so much heart. i dont know if a trans person wrote that page, but it sure felt like they understood the assignment. the way the hs fandom treats both canon and headcanoned transmasc characters makes my skin crawl, honestly. homestuck isnt a girls-only or a femmes-and-thems only piece of media. i see a lot of people rationalizing that it is by saying that hussie themself is transfem, but last i heard we don't know that? they've made a singular statement about their gender (that they think gender is for clowns and that they go by all pronouns), but that doesnt mean they identify with either the transfem OR transmasc label and tbh we shouldnt speculate. its infuriating being transmasc in this fandom right now. transmascs and tboys have just as much depth to themselves and their gender as transfems and tgirls :/ plus, a lot of the popular transfem theories have to do with the characters apparent chromosomes, which... i mean talk of trans people and their chromosomes always makes me nervous for i think obvious reasons. sorry for the long reply, im just relieved to see someone who sees the stuff i do in there. hang in there buddy 🤝🤝
@WellThinkOfATitle
@WellThinkOfATitle 3 дня назад
@@cervidae3291 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS 🫡
@ADZ_CatznArt
@ADZ_CatznArt 3 дня назад
Tysm for mentioning the whole makeover thing and all that. It bothers me too.
@ADZ_CatznArt
@ADZ_CatznArt 3 дня назад
I also agree with what you said about wandering son.
@prageruwu69
@prageruwu69 3 дня назад
tbh i'm envious that non-binary people get so much more rep in cartoons than binary trans people, especially trans men.
@elliart7432
@elliart7432 3 дня назад
I honestly never really thought of it from that perspective. I think its easy to take that kind of representation for granite because it comes in the form, most of the time, as inhuman/ alien characters. It's frustrating when on the surface you get a lot of rep, but in practice that rep doesn't really depict your lived experiences.
@prageruwu69
@prageruwu69 3 дня назад
@@elliart7432 i get that. i was mostly talking about the "this character has no gender BUT THEY'RE NOT TRANS YOU GUYS! they don't HAVE an assigned gender!" trope. it feels like a cheap way to have representation but not having it be "TOO trans". i think it's harder for them to do that with a character who inherently acknowledges the existence of irl trans people and their struggles by just existing. hell, even then i see a bit more human nb rep than any binary trans rep. (i am talking mostly about cartoons btw) possibly because an nb character doesn't necessarily need to acknowledge trans people, especially if their agab is never mentioned or revealed, it's like they were born nb and therefore no uncomfy conversations about the existence of trans people.
@elliart7432
@elliart7432 3 дня назад
@@prageruwu69 Yah, you pretty much hit the nail on the head. Binary trans identities are only characterized by the transition from one gender to another, making that element impossible to ignore if you want to write a character like that. But the concept of "nonbinary" is defined more by the liminal space between man and woman, making the transitionary element possible to forget about.
@watermelon-rx5ok
@watermelon-rx5ok 4 дня назад
"concluding that they aren't a man means they must be a woman" very relatable to me... I was gender-questioning for several years, thinking that I might be non-binary, but always concluded that I wasn't non-binary and that, if I wasn't non-binary, then I must be a woman. It wasn't until someone else suggested that I might be a man that I even let that be a possibility in my mind, and everything in my life suddenly made sense like a wall had come crashing down.
@trixxart777
@trixxart777 4 дня назад
If our flag means death fans wants a female character yet ignore Jackie
@AmbrosiaMooshine
@AmbrosiaMooshine 4 дня назад
This is an amazing video, I loved it :)
@Milo-hp9fw
@Milo-hp9fw 4 дня назад
Terry from The Dragon Prince is nice rep! He's mid-transition and briefly touched on being trans to his girlfriend's dad. (Her dad is one of the antagonists, but he's not transphobic in the slightest, just unethical because he uses dark magic and is helping the big bad antagonist.) It's nice because both him and his girlfriend are silly teens and have their immature moments. They are both on the antagonists side, but it's because Claudia is loyal to her dad and Terry is loyal to Claudia. I truly saw myself in him when I watched season 4. And Terry's VA is transmasc, too! I cancelled my Netflix subscription before season 5 came out, so I have not watched that yet. I don't know if anything changes.
@trixxart777
@trixxart777 4 дня назад
Yeah, Terry is probably my favourite character in the Dragon Prince
@Valentine--
@Valentine-- 3 дня назад
Dragon Prince mention!!!!
@magnolia7212
@magnolia7212 День назад
Viren, Terry and Claudia are my fav characters in TDP and Terry being trans made me really happy
@PlatinumAltaria
@PlatinumAltaria День назад
There's some real good stuff you've not seen, definitely recommend reupping or sailing the high seas.
@NickDe3
@NickDe3 4 дня назад
What do you think about the trans masc character Terry in The Dragon Prince?
@elliart7432
@elliart7432 4 дня назад
Just read about him in another comment! I don't really have an opinion because I've never seen the dragon prince and know basically nothing about it. I haven't seen he Umbrella Academy either, but at least have enough background info to get victor's deal (also watched his coming out scene)
@NickDe3
@NickDe3 4 дня назад
@@elliart7432 Well, The Dragon Prince has a very diverse cast with many different types pf LGBTQ representation. Even has some decent disability representation. its worth a watch.
@RayDrawzDragonz
@RayDrawzDragonz 4 дня назад
@@elliart7432 watch the dragon prince its an amazing story !!!! a writer of Avatar the last airbender wrote for it :D
@TheClericalFascist
@TheClericalFascist 4 дня назад
You're dillusional
@gusgilmanreal
@gusgilmanreal 4 дня назад
@@TheClericalFascist minor spelling mistake
@mintspear1845
@mintspear1845 4 дня назад
I would recommend Dorohedoro and Dai Dark by Q Hayashida. Hayashida has written multiple characters that are both explicitly and implicitly trans or at the very least, gender non conforming. Noi from Dorohedoro and Shimada Death from Dai Dark are both afab characters who play around with gender presentation, but generally present more masculine. In fact, I believe Shimada Death is only referred to with he/him pronouns (or at least in the few beginning volumes I’ve read), whereas Noi is referred to with she/her pronouns after characters see her without her mask on. Either way though, I have always found them to be decent rep, even if it’s mostly implicit when it comes to Noi and Shimada. Turkey from Dorohedoro is explicitly a trans woman tho, so I don’t think it’s that big of a stretch to say that the author may have intended for Noi and Death to be trans too.
@TheClericalFascist
@TheClericalFascist 4 дня назад
YWNBAW YWNBAG
@RayDrawzDragonz
@RayDrawzDragonz 4 дня назад
brother ur too lazy to actually type out an insult, SHUT THE FUCK UP 🗣📢 FIND A HOBBY INSTEAD OF HATING MINORITIES !!! is this what you wanna be known for? being an asshole to people, your entire legacy, this ? nothing productive, nothing that enriches people's lives, just this?
@dseray9494
@dseray9494 5 дней назад
I would describe myself as aggressively non-binary and feel represented quite well by all decent trans rep be it trans men, women, non binary people whatever, but it is very interesting to hear another perspective on it Also that tomboy ending is whack, it's so up it's own arse to be like ambiguously sunverting expectations like trans people aren't frothing at the mouth for lack of good representation as it is
@elliart7432
@elliart7432 4 дня назад
I agree. It bothers me when cis people seem to have this superiority complex about not wanting to go all the way with their trans characters. They always talk about "nuance" and "complexity" like they're just so much more enlightened than all those silly little trans people that don't know girls can be gender non-conforming
@dseray9494
@dseray9494 3 дня назад
@@elliart7432 wow you put that so much more eloquently than I did
@elliart7432
@elliart7432 3 дня назад
@@dseray9494 No, you said it well!
@Mrcleanfrfr
@Mrcleanfrfr 5 дней назад
I disagree with the trans fems don't have it worse when it comes to existing in society as themselves and how poorly their represented in media, typically as fetishes or "Does this make you queer now?" situations. Trans mascs are almost forgotten in the media outside of just "Oh, he's/they're trans! Cool!" which is still demeaning but then again far better than the ladder. I doubt you meant anything wrong about that, this video was beautifully done besides that small part early on.
@elliart7432
@elliart7432 4 дня назад
Tried to find a reletivly inoffensive way to word that point, the idea was to simply not make a declaration on who has it worse. regardless of if one of us DOES have it worse (I don't have an opinion on that), I find that kind of statement unhelpful in most situations
@chrispcats
@chrispcats День назад
​@@elliart7432 Frome one transmasc to another I recommend Lily Simpson's channel if you want to learn about how disastrous transfem representation can be. She covers a wide variety of shows and how they represent trans characters, and more often than not, transfem representation is handled extremely poorly (anything from awful caricatures to overdone stereotypes to their entire existence being the butt of the joke, most shows don't take transfems seriously at all). I did enjoy this video though, keep up the good work! ❤️🏳️‍⚧️
@ScribblesOnABox
@ScribblesOnABox 5 дней назад
It’s kinda really sad that some of the best trans masc representation I’ve seen isn’t even from a trans character. If anyone knows Steven universe, he kinda has trans masc undertones(in my opinion) and is better than some of the specifically trans media I’ve tried to dig up. Like the other diamonds refusing to call him Steven, and referring to him by his mother’s name instead, kinda like family purposefully using a deadname, in my opinion. I have found some pretty good books and shows with trans representation, some of it more subtle than others, but I wanna see more representation! Guess we’ll just have to make it ourselves lol Also love the art, it looks really good, love how you draw backgrounds. I could never lmoa
@elliart7432
@elliart7432 5 дней назад
Oh my fuck if I could go back and redo this video I would dedicate a whole section to that damn pink Steven scene. Also thank you! I’m actually not great at backgrounds so that took me a while, lol
@spider-manthecat690
@spider-manthecat690 5 дней назад
Such an awesome video! On the topic of Tomboy, I especially appreciate your commentary, as the ending always bothered me immensely. At a certain point, though, I decided to interpret it as the tragic ending I saw it as, where the trans boy doesn’t get to live his life, and even if that’s not the intention of the director, we’re all entitled to our own interpretations of film/art in general :) Thanks again for dope vid!
@elliart7432
@elliart7432 5 дней назад
Honestly I kind of feel like I gave the creator a bit too much benefit of the doubt. It wasn’t till I was editing that I REALLY sat back and rewatched the interview clip in full. “The end of a lie”?? Come on, up to interpretation my ass 🤦