Be patient, carry cash and you’ll find a good DT11 for similar money. Equally a 694 or Ultra XS Pro for a saving. There’s a lot of alternatives from top brands with good reputations before I’d chance my arm on one of these. Best of luck to anyone that does!
Hello, a comment from a colonial, if you don’t mind. My extensive experience in sporting clays reveals that patterning from the same barrel of a dopple bockbitzer will NOT provide you with the experience to effectually engage targets at random ranges and double targets from the station. Rather, you need to know what load (from what brand of ammunition) patterns where at various ranges. My investigations revealed that Lite Modified (3/8 choke) worked best out to 22 meters in my shotgun; and Improved Modified (5/8 choke) worked best at about 35 meters. My test and evaluation. Compare.
Another cracking video, seems to be a lot more turkish manufacturers coming into the UK at a very competitive price range for your avrage shooter like myself.
I personally know a few that went down this path, started out ok, then issues developed. Misfires, quality problems, guns locking up, top lever issues. Getting them fixed was a complete headache all bar one purchased used DT11’s which have been faultless (pre 2018 guns) the other moved over to a used K gun. Maybe they were just unlucky who knows?
I picked them up at the show. Lovey finish but very dated the chokes are the old Mobil choke copies. Also the lockup gives a bit of a ringing sound. I’ve currently got a DT 11 black which is for sale and I feels so much more refined for a 2017 gun. But equally if they address these issues and took it down to 4k they’d have a great selling gun. Just not worth the money, as you walk out of the shop you’re already losing 20% before you’ve fired it 😊
Great videos you are turning out. I learned a long time ago, trying to save a nickel on what you really want will never make you happy. If you really want a DT11 I would pay up for the real thing.
My name is Michael and I reside in the USA, I purchased a RT25 about two months ago and it has been tainted experience for me. I have the ‘basic’ model which I paid $4700 (£3700) and it has had a few issues. The Extended chokes and the removable trigger group are a few. I had to send the gun to the importer here in the U.S. to fix the issue of trying to remove the trigger group and replace the chokes. My gun does not balance on the hinge pin (barrel heavy) and the ‘drop’ on the Comb is too high (43mm vs 35mm for a stock with an adjustable comb). The wood to metal finish is fine but the recoil pad was not fitted to the stock, I am going to replace it with a Pachmayr SC100. On a ‘positive’ note I like the ‘kerstan’ cross-bolt lock up and the trigger is a pleasant 3.75 # with no take-up. In summary, I bought this firearm with my budget in mind as a DT11 is not reality for me!
I’ll stick with my DT11 personally, you can buy a good used ‘real’ DT11 for the new price. Not sure of the copyright situation but I’d be anticipating a stiff letter from Beretta if I were them?
Yes I do understand that, but companies like Beretta invest many £000’s in product development and I personally would not support any company that basically takahes advantage of this and rips other companies off. Each to their own and I’m sure these will sell regardless.Good video by the way as always 🙂
Not sure if you can answer as I’m getting conflicting answers, I’m in the UK and would like to get the beretta 690 black edition, I’ve had a gun shop tell me I can order a new one and I’ve had others say it’s discontinued. Do you know either way?
You could say this about any new gun released. Look at the issues browning had with the 725 when it first came out. Reputation behind the name but the early guns were not right
@@roymartingunsmiths814 But the 725 wasnt anywhere near 5000 at launch and BWM sorted out the issues quickly and FOC. Dont know if you could say the same about these and highland outdoors don't repair or service guns out of warranty. The plus to these is they look alot better than a DT with wood grade and they don't have the ugly blue/yellow line on the action like the DT's.
Excellent video! What to say.. seems like a real deal! The only remaining thing is the reliability! I have gambled couple of times with unproven things in my life, and mostly I was wrong! So, I do have a conservative opinion now ... but if in a 5 years time.. no one says that thing is a crap... I might get one! - 2nd hand! ;-) Regards from Belgrade! I really like the videos! ;-)
This is something discussed in the video. Do you go with a brand new gun to the market under manufacture warranty or do you go for a DT11 that has been well used
@@dave_724 I’m not so at the price point there are a lot of cheaper maybe better guns from more established gun makers, Beretta, Ceaser G, browning, it would be my guess these guns would hold there resale better and have tried and tested for many years,
I was fortunate enough to shoot those samples at an open day last week. I have to say I was impressed, I never missed a target, which is unusual for me. It’s still a chunk of money but if you are not bothered about brand image you’ll struggle to find a better handling clay cruncher
Hi purchased the 30'' 410 today, can't wait to try it on pigeon 'clay & feathered' and some game when the time comes. I have to say I was super impressed with the service at Roy Martin's cracking deal free gun slip & two boxes of cartridges. thank you
Crazy how many people changing chokes every station and yet I’ve watched guys crush 50yd crossers using a SK choke, 7/8oz of 7-1/2’s. Want further confirmation, on you tube watch Ben Husthwaite choke video where he said he was in a 3 way shootoff with Digweed and Matterese (spelling) and he had never seen targets that far before, he won the shootoff and was sure he had 3/4 chokes in his gun but once he checked they were indeed 1/4 (IC) chokes. It’s in our heads. The tighter the average shooter goes the more handicapped they are and their scores will suffer.
A admire the look of your store and your attitude I will definitely look you up when next in UK. But I’m a Rigby snob and no work you can do to a Remington will make it work.
Good clear and insightful content.My coach has 3/8 and 3/8 but alternates the cartridge he uses depending on the target.i'm relatively new to shooting but have one teague 3/8 choke on my 694,might get another after watching this.I have been looking at an Invictus though after trying the Ascent out.Cheers
