Hi ! Thank you so mutch for this fit. However I have some questions. 1st : were have you got this fitting sheat ? It’s so nice. 2nd : I have exactly the same fit (the abyssals modul are lightly better in terme of capa, but in shield boosting) but I have only 41% stable despit the fact I’m full engineering skills. (I’m not fully skilled in navigation) Even if I turn off the AB, I get only 47% stable, not 69… 3rd : I have also full skill in shield, but I have only 60% EM resist instead of your 64%…. I don’t know why there is so mutch différence.
Cool channel, instant sub! :) Abyssal space is too scary for me and listening to you it almost sounded its safe, cozzy place :) T6... and i die in T3s. Anyway, thank you for the video. I'll be watching you ;)
This is not very economically viable - you need to make at least 30 runs so about 8 hr of abyss just to make this ship back risking 5B each time. Only after this you start making profit.
Great video! Love how you go over the modules and their prices. It makes everything easy to keep track of. Keep ‘em coming, I hope I can one day fly t6!
@Kraeze Is it possible or benificial to run lower tier darks to practice with this build or will the enemy/room combos not be the same? IE if I wanted to run some T4's?
Yes, if a fit runs a specific weather T6 it will run all of the below as well. However, most of the times there are cheaper alternatives, for example the Muninn can go up to T5 and be a lot cheaper for those. But to practice the ship it's always good to run like a few T4's, a good bunch of T5's and then make the move to T6.
@@Mortechai caldarijoans.streamlit.app/Dark_Muninn However, I have not flown this one myself so I cannot guarantee this survives all waves at this stage.
Just for my information how many runs and isk did you make off the lost cerberus ballpark. Did it bring you a great return before it fell or is it better to go in another direction if you had to start again when you first built it. Isk versus your time i mean.
I flew it more than I expected because of the cost & risk with gankers than my expensive one tbh. Especially at the peak server hours it's a lot more relaxed to fly it. I netted like 10bil so def. isk positive. This is the first ever cerb that I lost since I got back to EVE 3/4 years ago so overall I'm up massively anyway :-)
I see, you replaced the second rigor to em shield reinforcer...so its necessary and better than having 2 rigors? I think cos of angel wave. Is it required if i have ADC instead of PDS?
Yes, I changed it already a while ago (the other 2 fits videos) and mainly because of the Angel wave indeed and the PDS helps with the fitting (making it cheaper). The applied DPS is still enough, especially if you upgrade clone / more dps. The ADC Dual Rigor is still valid, but the EM reinforcer makes the runs easier imho.
@@2Kraeze Thanks for your response. I changed it too, but left the ADC in fit cos of ganks. I survived 3 ganks with it already...0.6 tier5 with an abyssal one (12,5 sec) and the cap is still good, almost 70% stable.
It depends on the room and experience, with the cheap setup it's harder than with the pimped for sure. That's because of the limited range with the LG Hydra vs HG.
The Gila is easier to fly for sure, bit more buffer en cap so it's more suitable. This ship is more the alternative if you don't like to use drones ;-)
Thank you for walking through and explaining the reasoning behind every step! I find it is whats missing in lots of fits on internet/videos. Good luck in abyss! Could you share your thoughts on what level of skills (3-4-5) in combat/drones/support sections are required for each tier of filaments, and which difficulty spikes have you experienced in past? Thank you
There are a lot of people in the Abyssal Lurker Discord that know way more about the lower tiers than me, I'd really suggest to take a peak there for any questions as you'll get more specifics than I could ever give ;-)
Not sure about the number but I only received crap tbh, looks like it's better to get components through nullsec for example imho.Better drops there it seems.
Well you can already jump into the lower tier abyss as a beginner and start earning pretty decent isk early on. Then slowly skill into the higher tiers if it's something you like doing. Although unrealistic but if you skill all the right skills for just this you'll need around 40mil sp I think. I've injected an alt before and I think it's somewhere around that mark.
Island systems (surrounded by lowsec) with a station seem fine. And go on offensive. Like @Amathylar described, I have hull brutix and hecates in npc staion. Having a ocuple of logi there might be a good thing, but never actually got to that point.
great video again! any tip on an T5 Firestorm Iki? i'm playing with a dual rep & mimesis set fit. but not sure if the tank's okay for t5. t4 it smashes easily
With the trig gun nerf the Iki is just a expensive ship that can barely make T5's, so I'd suggest to re-skill thanks to CCP as the Iki is easily replaced for a cheaper Gila for example. Maybe a Sac might be good, but it will go into the expensive territory as well, even for T5 I think.
not sure if its just me but the pyfa link doesnt work it just says 404 not found and i cant find anywhere else with the fit to be able to copy it into my game
Just curious, with V skills, how many rolls do you need on average to get both crash and blue pill. At the moment I just use standard crash (T5). The angel room even in T5 can deliver a lot of damage if you get caught by a web, which can happen quite often, but you prefer hydras over crystals? I can't decide which would be best for T6 (never run one). I suppose time is a bigger issue so hydras. But then angel rooms, etc. so maybe I'll need better repping...
Usually around 2, but like everything with EVE it can sometimes be zero and sometimes like 5. Hydra's + the Abyss Battery/Shield Booster and the EM rig make that room pretty easy tbh. Just get out of clouds (except blue), disable AB and kill.
So cool, again, thx very much for the vid! Would you please add your fit in the description or in the comment section? You know, so we could copy it and paste in-game.. I honestly tried to fit a cerberus, using your video but failed:(( getting the list of the modules you use would be a huge relief!! Thanks again!:)
First try t5 dark and got rekt. 4 elite cyno+1cyno+ 2 elite dram+ some fury Is it ok in t5 dark? Not even t6. Build with 2 dark blood webs and pith x type, mid grade cristal+ full 05 imps for damage,no abyssal modules. 2.5 bil build is too weak for t5?
Personally I don't have experience with the crystal fit so not sure about the stats of cap/shield boost with the fit you mention and what rigs you were running. Did you run out of cap or was the dps too much?
@@2Kraeze yes got neuted. Em rig and rig for fitting. Also i did like 0 damage with no ixions and clouds, with 2 55% webs. Really dont get it at all. But the main quastion is room, is it normsl for t5?
@@vladpoteryakhin7547 it's one of the options yes, if unlucky you see them quite a bit tbh. This is also why I went for T6 pretty quick, the Angel Room in T5's can already be pretty brutal so might as well upgrade and do T6's was my view. It's why you want that abyssal battery and shield booster combination, they will ensure you'll be able to keep the rep going in those type of spawns.
I started with the Crystal set, and now I’m with the low-grade hydra, the dps difference is visible and I prefere largely the hydra now. You shut down the neuters and webifier so quikly that the degraded threat don’t need a better tanking.
I started with the Crystal set, and now I’m with the low-grade hydra, the dps difference is visible and I prefere largely the hydra now. You shut down the neuters and webifier quikly that the degraded threat don’t need a better tanking.
Great video, I still struggle with tier 1 abyss in my retribution. Can't seem to narrow down the right fit and the recommended one in abyssal lurkers chat I tried and died more often in lol. I'll eventually come up with something sick and conquer it.
I have never run them in a frig (except trying the triple setup) however I keep thinking about doing some lower tier as well. However, there is so much information available already for them... reading your comment it might still be worth it tough.
The issue is that certain spawn combinations are simply a dead rooms for the cheap setups, if that acceptable it's fine but they should mention that. For T6 I rather make sure I can handle all, even the spawns that rarely show up but are extremely deadly for the cheaper setup.
Great video, watching the drone management in this video put me right off ever doing this! lol Jokes aside though I feel like you are the best cruiser abyss videos going atm since everyone else is just going lul stormbringer. Looking forward to see even more interesting ship / weather combinations!
I do not believe there is a single high-level table for it, everything can be found here: abysstracker.com/loot/all Best would be to check the market in Jita for mutaplasmids per weather type. However, I suggest running the weather / ship that suits your best tbh.. you'll have fun and make isk that way.
o7 Kraeze, i really like ur contents as a t4 cerberus abys lurker. i would like to raise my tier to t5 and whats most crucial upgrade for cerberus? i dont have any hydra implant should i buy low grade and dive in to it ? is there too much difference between t4 and t5 for npc perspective or just npc numbers will rise? ty for answers and fly safe o7
Yes, it's mostly more NPC's which means longer run times but also more EWAR like neuting which is the more dangerous thing next to the additional DPS. I'd advice to join the Abyssal Lurker discord and also have a look here for a T5 fit (lot cheaper than you need for T6 ;-)). caldarijoans.streamlit.app/
which drug debuffs are dangerous for runs, I have the skills at maximum, but I know that for example, some capacitor debuff or shield heal could end up resulting in death
I'm going to add isk to make this cerb hahaha, I'm coming back now, I wanted to make iki, but I saw the nerf it took, and without SISI it's complicated :c
I would only run if non impact your shield, range or dps. It's fine to run with the Armor HP penalty or Turret one. I'd not run with any of the others tbh, not worh the risk.
Yes and depending on the spawns you might get 4 done anyway. Also, you can always switch clone to reroll the boosters making it 4 runs in 1hr and 5-10minutes. The boosters are cheap compared to the profit.
This content showed up as I was coming back to the game for the new expansion. I live in Null and don't super love anom farming. This looks like a good option for me(maxed skills). I build ships, big ships in particular. Are t6's where zirn bpcs come from?
In the SKINR Tool you need this to actually create the skin, I believe you can get these Sequencers but also colours / patterns in the boxes. If you don't care about the SKINR Tool and/or creating you own skins just ignore and sell ;-)
@@mariorocchetti5231 There are few vids on it by other eve players, just search for eve and skinr and they will show you. I'm not planning on using it myself, too expensive for what you get at this moment.
Well the rooms are made up using a point system by CCP, the following site shows the max number of npc's you can get. Because the abyss is so diverse there isn't a catch all guide, which is good because it means it's more interactive than the boring lvl4 missions for example ;-) www.qsna.eu/eve/abyss?sw=dark&t=cataclysmic&pen=-0.5&en=damagedTriglavianBattleships
With blue cloud / tracking pylon in the toom there is a higher chance of the wrecking shot. However, you can take 2 (first one is just shield down) and because the ship reps back to a 100% pretty quick you'll be fine. Just don't approach Karen all the time, you can basically make 2 mistakes in a short amount of time and still get away with it (or get unlucky with 2 wrecking shoots b2b). I have never had issues with this fit and wrecking shots, if I record a wrecking shot vid with Karen I'll post it (if it's not on the list somewhere yet).
