@@timlayzell5093 Tradeoffs for size and volume and stability. I WW kayak so I have seen and been on all kinds of river waves. I could go smaller with the scud or larger with the 8'8" king dub. Might learn how to SUP, but it looks a lot harder than kayaking! Rivers and waves I would be thinking about using it on: Wilson, Alsea, Lake Creek, Nestucca, Trask, South Santiam, Deschutes, Lower White Salmon, Klickitat
@oregonxyz I absolutely love river sup but it is difficult. I feel it also takes a different mindset. In a kayak you can charge things and power your way through a lot. On a sup you are dancing with the river and spending a lot more time studying the flow and how it is going to affect your board. I would say get a board that can do it all then figure out what you really like. If you sup down river start with easy stuff and enjoy being out in nature. That way you don't get frustrated that you are just falling off all the time.
There were a group of guys who tried to do the paddle boarding thing locally. They lasted two years but quickly gave it up because they all kept twisting their knees when falling in (and got tired of falling in all the time).
Oh that is unfortunate. I have so many questions. What shoes did you wear? Did you wear padding? Did you often fall feet first and if so did you bend your knees slightly? I fell a lot as I was learning and still do now but maybe fall in a more controlled manner now. Knee/shin, butt and elbow padding is a must
Can you tell me where the waterfall slide is located that you did in this video? I think you said it was a creek that flows into butte creek but not sure. Appreciated
I haven't but that is a great idea. I took a couple of private classes and went to countless pool sessions as I was learning how to initiate the bow. Also cram yourself in the smallest playboat you can fit in so you reduce the resistance. Hopefully I get around to making a video like that though.
Love the selection of boats there any chance you would put them all out to be more visible, and take video ? Any more episodes? Probably very time consuming Fair play though great video
Woah, what a blast from the past! I don't care if you coin terms such as "happy hole", but no mention of the pleasure pod by Perception? (shown in all its marbled minicel glory at 9:36) Take us on a tour of the 'Slice Shed' man - us old heads NEED more Slice Life! Oh, and a Savage 'V' Designs Lynx walkthrough puh-leeze! Quite the rare specimen o' slice, I tell ya hwut.
Love the intro ...tell 'em Tim! Cool basalt column ya splatted at the 2:59 mark. Got a chuckle outta the tandem IK swim crew too, haha. Play that funky music honky!
@@timlayzell5093 thanks! I'm 6.3ft, size 13 shoes, and 229lbs... But I'm really looking for a freestyler/freerider boat, I think the Homeslice works for me.. Large Ozone was way to big
Have you demo’d the nova? A few places are actually selling the mixmaster for a limited time in 2023 but I’m not crazy about your feet running all the way up to the front of the boat without anything support the boat from caving in on your feet compared to something like the nova that has something in place for that. I’d be curious to demo one though
Nice edit. 👍🏼 You recall the date? We were in there on Christmas and again four days later, and I know that log in the narrow slot showed up between those dates. Glad that Machno didn’t flip after sliding off that boof rock sideways at 1:36. Heading through that pinch with the log would be no bueno upside down. 🙃 Flow looked Med-High. 🧐 Did you get a look at the gauge rock at the takeout? The cfs can be really deceiving since the gauge is almost 30 miles downstream. I’ve got pics of the gauge rock at identical (medium flow) readings when the gauge itself was 3.3K and 6K.
2 different kinds of boating. With an IK, you can do harder stuff, but a hardshell will let you carve down the river like a sports car. The IK is just a mini raft. If you hardshell, you need to do it a lot to stay sharp and do a lot of roll practice too.
Great video! Right around this time, we acquired a Forest Service cabin right on the banks of the Zigzag (roughly at your 0:15 seconds mark, though it looks like the vid skips a few seconds right at our place). We actually saw a kayaker pop up at our feet one day, en route down river, and were quite impressed, but I think that was a few weeks after this vid was taken. I'm curious if this section is still navigable? The area has had some newly downed trees in the last year (though I see that's not always an impediment!) and there's been a major restoration of the riverbed for salmon habitat, though I think that's mostly just upriver a bit from Tollgate. Additional riverbed modifications will be happening this summer around Rd 20E.
How do you like it overall? Thinking about doing the same with FR60. Is there a production boat you’d compare it to, like a short less-rockered ripper or something?
Are you going to do any more videos. Was looking forward to the whole series. Interested to know which full slice you'd give 10/10 for comfort? I'm a good bit taller than you though, I manage in an s8 235 or super ego
I got a little side tracked but I will put more video's out in the future. Personally I think the most comfortable full slice I have been in is the Homeslice. And it is the best overall IMO. Sadly it only comes in one size so it is great for me at 205 LB. If you are less than 175 it is going to be rather hard to engage the bow but the stern should still be plenty slicy.
Got a chance to buy a Mr Clean for $250. Been thinking about just buying a LL Home Slice. Want something I can work on stern squirts and cart wheels that is a slicey boat. Any thoughts between these two?
Fun that you're bringing up these old boats! I loved the Lucid. That sexy hole in the bow provides structural support by making contact with the base of the boat--replacing the bow wall. Like the "funky" hole in the end, design features that use hull plastic instead of tacked-on bits improve durability. I paddled this boat in the Sierra Madre Occidental and enjoyed it for general river running including lots of waterfalls. I also weighed 50+ pounds less than Tim so it wasn't super-squirty for me but I could get the ends up in a hole and it spun like a top. It boofed better than the full volume Wildwasser Embudo which I also had with me. It is one of many boats that I wish I still had...
Glad you enjoyed the lucid and the video. It truly was a unique boat to paddle. There was definitely a lot more innovation going on in the early 2000's in playboats. Good to see the trend coming back though
There's a Session close by me for $250 in good shape. I am 5'9, 185 and worried about getting in it? Seems like you can and you are bigger than me? Not sure if I have the same pain tolerance however...
@@joshhughes1319 I pulled out the seat and made a custom foam seat really close to the hull so I had more knee room. A session should be easy to resell for $300 or more if it doesn't fit. I would say go for it.
