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It would! I did find someone else had made a sleeper out of this. I'd have considered, except when I found out the only thing preventing POST was a bad CR2032, I decided I'd fix it up instead.
Thats really cool ! I love this old technology, especially the 486 processor that basically changed the world. I wish I had one of those, but ofc they're expensive
Damn I didn't expect this to get popular at all, I did it as a joke. Please, if any of you decide to attempt this, don't do it with anything you value! I cannot be held responsible for that. By uploading this video, I didn't say this was a good idea or that it'd work in every scenario, so please don't assume such.
Of course PATA can be hotplugged. Look at all the Dells, Compaqs and IBMs of the time (Pentium 3 and newer) that had one or even two hot swappable bays for IDE optical drives, floppy drives and batteries. It's just the extension of the ISA bus, if a drive goes out, it's just the OS that will freak out if it expects it to respond but other than that, there's nothing that monitors the response or existence for optical drives.
@@Racecar564 Well on the electric side of things there is certainly some circuitry that deals with the power draw, though I think for an optical drive it doesn't matter as it often isn't doing anything. But on the interface as far as I know there is just a flag that some drivers set so you can "eject" the drive from the taskbar. But that's completely optional as long as you're not currently burning a disc. In DOS they were normal IDE drives.
@@gentuxable It just now occurred to me that you were talking about laptops (you did say batteries, after all! I glossed over that). Indeed, for long time I've had a Latitude C840 that does all what you describe. I always figured this required special BIOS support though, and in this video I was just doing it with a fairly standard desktop which is why I found it interesting. But perhaps from what you say, basically the same thing is happening in either case. Good to know!
@@Racecar564 and just realized now that I never mentioned it. :) of course thank you for the courage to check it out. I think the only things special from those BIOS are to be able to register a new drive if the system was not booted with it in the first place and to allow „safely remove hardware“. I guess for the OS on that driver-level it makes no difference what the BIOS supports and the BIOS just doesn’t have any routine that allow it to know about and crash. I think my first build with an Athlon64 Venice had a board that let me basically remove everything safely, even PCIe cards! That’s maybe a standard but the UI is cleaner now than in the XP-era.
Hot plugging is hit or miss. A lot of the time, things can spark and break. On rare occasion, you might get away with it. That is why it is generally not advised to hotplug anything other than sata. I have also tried running a motherboard in the living-room carpet. The motherboard does break when you run it on the carpet.
This is the right answer - there's a HUGE asterisk about something failing gracefully versus being actually hot plug supported. A niche case, but definitely not a recommended procedure if you value your gear.
Yeah now that would be a real surprise! But I was under the impression (until I made this video) that there was never was ANY special code in any infrastructure for PATA.
@@Racecar564 I'm hardly the end-all-be-all expert in PATA/IDE, but I know that there could be sizable differences between the official spec and supported features, especially later in the standard's life. I suppose that's true even today, with many modern PSU's/mobos still not supporting SATA v3.3.
This only works on newer IDE controllers. It started working after the P3 era or later. You can also hot plug ps/2 style keyboards and mice. Part of it is the new driver model in windows since vista I think as well.
I remember doing this 500 years ago and killing a maxtor drive in an old amd K6 machine. Make sure you pull/insert that molex fast and straight or it will arc out. I still do this with SATA drives just put the system in hibernate/sleep and it will work on boards that don't support hot swapping
But it is maybe because your original ide drive was connected at launch and the cd drivers/kernel info was launched too. Is it work if you start your pc without a cd drive and try to hot plug it ?
I don't expect that would work. I also found out something else interesting after this upload - if the CD drives are too dissimilar, it won't read correctly. It'll work if you revert to the original though. Seems they negotiate based on protocol support of some kind and if that changes too much, it won't fly.
