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$100k CAMERA vs $2k GIMBAL [RED Monstro vs Zhiyun Crane 3S] 

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RE-UP of 27 July 2020 Live broadcast.
Graetzy tries to break the new Zhiyun Crane 3S gimbal and tests it's ambitious payload claims. Broadcast live from Brisbane, Australia with real-time Q&A and plenty of coverage (including a live feed from the RED Monstro 8K with an Atlas Orion 40mm anamorphic).

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26 июл 2020

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@groktechtalk5311
@groktechtalk5311 3 года назад
Where to start? The camera is not balanced completely which highly affects the gimbal use. 7.45 kilos wow 16.42 lbs which is about 1.5lbs over the gimbals max rating and why you are having some issues. And lastly, WOW does that lens breath when you pull focus...
@doganb34
@doganb34 4 года назад
Im strangely addicted to your videos, you guys rock! Thanks man, keep up the great work!! 👌🤙🤙
@DanielBender
@DanielBender Год назад
This was great! Thanks man
@joshmchin
@joshmchin 4 года назад
Super helpful stream, thanks heaps.
@NickMitzenmacher
@NickMitzenmacher 3 года назад
Rad review of the product! Just picked mine up and received. I have the BM Ursa Mini Pro 4.6k G2 and running the Sigma 18-35mm lens on it. Definitely a heavy payload with all that, 7 inch monitor and Battery on the cam too. Been working pretty smooth when upright like this, but have been running into problems when it's underslung mode. When I am in PF mode, if I pan to the right or left, I get the gimbal starting to shake. If I leave it for a second it returns to normal, but can't pan at all. If I throw it into POV mode when unerslung, then I dont get any of that. Have you seen any problems with any of your heavier payloads and underslung mode? Upgraded the firmware right when I got it and all balanced properly. Curious to see if you had the same issues though being that you are running such a heavy payload as well.
@alfaogat
@alfaogat 3 года назад
I like the Paillard Bolex 16 mm camera on the shelf.
@maxbrown3133
@maxbrown3133 3 года назад
Looks real heavy .
@rawmintvideo
@rawmintvideo 4 года назад
Thanks Dan! This was so bloody helpful!
@graetzmedia
@graetzmedia 4 года назад
Glad it helped!
@lastactionsd3205
@lastactionsd3205 2 года назад
Bro I see u have zyuin wireless control can tell if I use hollyland mars 300 pro video transmission can I connect with the gimble too thanks in advance
@chariesbergero9662
@chariesbergero9662 2 года назад
I can see a little vibration on the image when you walk, maybe is by the long arm of the gimbal, can be? or maybe the motors are not set with much power. I can see the same problem on mine with a Panasonic Eva 1 and a canon 24-70 mm.
@Holtenstein
@Holtenstein 3 года назад
I can't get my motion controller to work at all. I get the iPod and gimbal looking symbols only. I switched the gimbal to CCS mode, updated the firmware, tried connecting it in every way I could think of. No luck. Did you ever get yours working? Mine seems to not be communicating with the Crane 3s at all.
@Holtenstein
@Holtenstein 3 года назад
I got it working by connecting the USB C cable to the back of the transmitter via Micro USB. Camera control and HDMI plug into the front of transmitter. Fixed and working now
@DrBrunoDzogovic
@DrBrunoDzogovic 2 года назад
A question. How do you handle the focus pulling when you use the dual grip with the gimbal? I assume you're bypassing the integrated follow focus of the gimbal or?
@bishaljungtiruwa8384
@bishaljungtiruwa8384 3 года назад
How much price information reply
@nathanmcdonald7064
@nathanmcdonald7064 3 года назад
When you go on the ziyhun app you need to scroll across and select the transmitter rather than the gimbal to be able to get a live feed
@graetzmedia
@graetzmedia 3 года назад
So that’s what I’ve been doing wrong all this time 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️
@atutor1
@atutor1 3 года назад
The called a trunk a boot 😂😂
@volaksin5842
@volaksin5842 4 года назад
Would love to see a video about the Atlas Orion; especially footage from that lens.
@graetzmedia
@graetzmedia 4 года назад
I’m planning an episode comparing the new Komodo to my Monstro, and anamorphic is going to be a part of that.
@volaksin5842
@volaksin5842 4 года назад
@@graetzmedia Subscribed and waiting :-)
@shadi5885
@shadi5885 4 года назад
graetzmedia YESSSSSSS!!!! I was about to ask for this exact video.
@hosseinkhodabandehloo5676
@hosseinkhodabandehloo5676 3 года назад
Hey buddy, Love your video and it's a good thing I watched it. Were you able to get the image transmission set to work since this video? I also own a RED and the Zhiyun 3S. My transmission set in the way and I did not realise that the wireless motion joystick thingy didn't work with REDs. I got it as I wanted to control the gimbal's movement remotely without using the phone app.
@graetzmedia
@graetzmedia 3 года назад
Hey mate, glad you like it. If you watch the other videos in the series I talk about it further. You need to go into the Camera selection on the Smart Handle and choose “CCS” and then you should get control of gimbal movement using the remote even though it can’t talk to the Red directly. I’m about to release the final video on the series which will show that setup in more detail 🤙🏻
@hosseinkhodabandehloo5676
@hosseinkhodabandehloo5676 3 года назад
@@graetzmedia Thanks mate. I'll defs check out the other videos.
@RichCTO
@RichCTO 3 года назад
Great video! I just bought this unit, so very helpful! Who makes that shelving?
@graetzmedia
@graetzmedia 3 года назад
Thanks mate! It’s a product they sell at our Aussie equivalent of Home Depot. Check out www.rack-it.com.au
@zoanyway
@zoanyway 3 года назад
Instant thumbs up for "I don't know what kind of dickhead..."
@very9000
@very9000 3 года назад
Hello Friend. I have a problem with Crane 3S. For 6 months now I can't solve the problem😌😌😌When you move forward or backward, does your video jerk? Maybe the power bank for the Blackmagic 6K camera should be placed at the top 👆? I placed it in the back.
@adamquesada
@adamquesada 4 года назад
Hi, does it balance or is it very top heavy with the monitor on top?
@graetzmedia
@graetzmedia 4 года назад
I’m not the worlds most patient gimbal balancer, but I could easily get it balanced enough for the motors to do the rest on Ultra setting. Would be ideal to move the monitor to the top of a ring like the Cinemilled pro ring or one of the ones from SmallRig.
@mastercheif1989
@mastercheif1989 4 года назад
Any chance of us getting a studio tour?
@graetzmedia
@graetzmedia 4 года назад
Definitely! Got a few live streams planned soon where I can take questions and do some cool multicam live stuff.
@lyndonalvarez2684
@lyndonalvarez2684 4 года назад
I have the Crane 3s myself, keep the motors on low (light payload and I've tested all settings, sitting at 7.71 kilos with gimbal & camera pkg). I notice a very light vibration, not in the footage but if I touch the gimbal (it gets worse in different modes). It is extremely subtle but watching my footage it just doesn't feel buttery smooth. Do you notice a very subtle vibration/motors working if you touch one of the arms? My first Crane 3s didn't work properly so I'm on my second one. What would be the odds I get two lemons in a row? Also I balanced everything properly with added supports. I've been using gimbals for years :) Thanks in advance!
@graetzmedia
@graetzmedia 4 года назад
Hey Lyndon, yeah to be honest I’ve had similar issues but they seem to be intermittent. I need to spend more time with it to know for sure. But for now my instinct is that the Crane3S probably isn’t as reliable as it should be. Hopefully they can improve the firmware and maybe use some of the motor algorithms they’ve been hyping about the new Crane 2S.
@NahYeahMate
@NahYeahMate 3 года назад
Hey mate, really hoping you can help me with an idea I'm trying to put together. I'd like to be able to put a DSLR on a gimbal and mount both on a tripod and be able to control the camera zoom remotely (either wired or wireless) There are 2 ways I can think of that could work. But the zoom has to be a smooth zoom (with a zoom rocker) 1- Using something like the Zhiyun TransMount Motion Sensor Controller to control the focus pull motor (mounted on the zoom) 2- Getting the power zoom lens www.sony.com.au/electronics/camera-lenses/selp28135g but I don't think I can control the zoom remotely? Obviously option 1 will be the more cost effective route but wanted to see if you've attempted this setup yourself and confirm it would work? Thanks mate
@mawais9441
@mawais9441 4 года назад
can you sponser me to get my first ever camera .?
@antdx316
@antdx316 3 года назад
I think you need a motion slider for the RED. Shoulder camming the RED, But using this gimbal for the RED instead of a mirrorless is just doing it wrong.
@graetzmedia
@graetzmedia 3 года назад
Yeah this was just for a bit of fun. I’ve got two motion control slider systems, and a steadicam. Like I said in the episode I’m not a huge fan of gimbals - just wanted to see if this one lived up to the hype and specs.
@antdx316
@antdx316 3 года назад
@@graetzmedia have you tried the new DJI RS2?
@graetzmedia
@graetzmedia 3 года назад
@@antdx316 not yet but I'm keen to give it a crack!
@antdx316
@antdx316 3 года назад
@@graetzmedia ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8i1Xs9gaSMM.html see this tracking video
@user-zv7lm8uk7h
@user-zv7lm8uk7h Год назад
Monstro is a 100k camera 🤣😂🤣😅 well here goes your credibility.
@graetzmedia
@graetzmedia Год назад
In Australian dollars, at the time the video was made, inc. the lens and accessories…
@pixelwash9707
@pixelwash9707 3 года назад
You said ‘you get what you pay for’ far too many times, lol. That is true sometimes, often even, but often also you seem to be using it to justify your love of expensive cine equipment, and disdain for equipment that costs less, in a sort of bizarre British class-based hierarchy with no connection to actual practical performance, functionality and goal of the equipment.
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