Hey weirdos, I need your help. We're back. Expect 2 episodes a week - guests on Mondays, episodes with myself and co-host(s) on Fridays. In the meantime, please tell me what sucks, what you liked and what you'd want to see more of! (Also call your grandma. She misses you. I just talked to her and she seemed really upset...)
Having special guests is real nice, I know it might be a problem but having it more in person and not over the Internet would be better imo but then again what do I know
Sam brings a great POV on before money vs. after money mindset.Once you get money, you realize you don't need to suffer to get money, you just weren't conscious of this reality in your "premoney scarcity". When you were poor, you suffered, and your ego justified that pain by convincing you that it was the price of success. Once you have money, and you elevate out of scarcity, into abundance, you realize you can have money, health and happiness without any suffering, but it takes a lot of "altitude" and Abundance to gain that POV. Fascinating.
I think this realization that you necessarily need to suffer to achieve success comes after acquiring the skills that allow you to achieve that financial success. The "grind" and "suffering" mindset comes from not having clarity on what to do because you're not a skilled and connected human being
Came for Sam, stayed for both. Great conversation, great questions. Love Sam’s vulnerability and flat out honesty in every answer he gives. What you see is what you get.
@@benahmin Here are my main takeaways: - The difference between a good product & a bad one, is how it makes the user feel - If something doesn't feel right, it shows in the work - Free Flowing, Fun > Ridged and disciplined - Passion & Feeling > - Consistent: your company’s mission - Changes: the approach
It’s easy for someone who has already been disciplined and rigid for a period of time to become successful - to say “be more flexible” etc But when you have no success at all yet, you have to stick to the sucky part, you have to discipline yourself and narrow yourself - until you can make it through the key hole. Once you’re through the keyhole and on the other side, then you can do whatever you want.
@@leonjhendrix Have to be aweseome to have enough super saiyajin willpower to control the urge to eat whole ice cream at once. At what level of willpower from 1 to 10 do i unlock this secret skill?🍧🦹♂ Greetings from Germany, I waited on your comeback, nice to see you again💪
This man is special. The way he communicates is something else and the had to download all the old videos a few years back when I heard he might delete them. They are treasure espicially the monk presentation. I’m so happy you touched on the whole notion thing, I bought templates but I always end up going back to notepad, this was reassuring. Also I loved your old videos but I’ll certainly be sticking around for these podcasts. Keep them coming.
Wow what an amazing video with Sam! I love this side of him. As a mom of 3 kids running a business, he is 1000% right about using the small moments you have more effectively with intensity. Sam gets it! ❤
I had the same experience in my business. It was successful, profitable and serving people. But I wasn’t in love with it and I wasn’t excited anymore. I stopped selling my offer for a year and pivoted and I’ve never been happier.
Whatever your analytics say, the community that stayed is Worth it!! I read through the comment section and it was just absolutely holesome! Keep it up man, love your work
Amazing podcast! I’m a 20 year old at the start of his entrepreneurial journey, have come across his channel and been binge watching his videos a few times a week, rewatching some vids even 10 times. Its interesting to see him disagreeing with the advice I’m currently trying to apply in my own journey haha
This is more than gold, Leon! You’re asking all the right and deep questions, such a pleasure to listen to both of you (long time fan of Sam and yours)
@7:19 Sam talks about making people feel good. After being financially successful, I can say that finding out how you can "make people feel good" has brought me so much more joy. But, I see old friends selling their soul for money and I understand how unfulfilling that can be. I attribute a lot of my failures in life to the absence of the skill of "making people feel good". Although, this skill has also been the hardest skill to learn. So if you embark on this journey be prepared to grow your emotional intelligence, spontaneity, and awareness. Much love ✌
I've watched sam ovens stuff 8 years ago, this is the first thing I see from you. Just wanted to met you know that this is gold. So if it's a new audience you were talking about, you can count me in. Great interview from both sided. You both took your time to ask and answer questions. Watched it fully and appreciate the effort. Keep it up 👌
Just letting you know I’ve been seeing your videos for a while but decided to subscribe when you started posting the long form. Good stuff, keep it up - T
Bro keep doing these podcasts, fk what your analytics say, from someone who loved your high production videos, I ALSO love this style and format. And to be honest, will I watch all your podcasts? Maybe not all, but that’s not because I don’t enjoy them, rather I fit the interest of some of the guests and not others. I like what you’re doing and appreciate the effort you’re putting into this 🙏
I watched this last night and I loved the interview! Surprisingly Sam had a lot of the same thoughts as I did, such as the idea of doing what’s easy and having the freedom to choose rather than to do something painful. And the intuition one is what I do a lot of too, I listen to it and it really helps my decisions from day to day. I really liked the guitar analogy story, that was a good one. For some suggestions, I think maybe you can chop up your long form podcasts into shorts coz that’s the framework I see Alex h/ Iman G do. You can take the best parts and reach a broader audience with less work, plus the retention is higher too. Another suggestion is to ask better questions as better questions lead to better answers, a lot of podcasting have to do with the skill of being good at listening and getting good at asking questions (I think I got it from diary of a ceo yt channel)! And lastly I found it a bit hard to remember the good points because there were a lot of things discussed, so I will leave that to u to improve based on this feedback! Anyways thanks for making this, I enjoyed it c:
The only way to separate yourself from the million other podcasts is to have more unique/rare guests on and Sam Ovens is a fine example. Also your line of questioning and conversational style worked exceptionally well in this episode. Keep 'em coming!
Leon, I just get to know you congratulations doing this interview with such an inspiring person like sam ovens,.... You have excellent skills on asking good questions.. Keep going brother All the best 🌹
Great episode Leon!! Great guest. I liked your high-production stuff, but this is ALSO great! I don’t really care about the dopamine spiking format. I love the deeper, more nuanced long-form content! Keep it up
I would say that sams audience is alot higher qaulity than most of the high subscriber count influencers that he was talking about. Im one of them, dudes a genius.
when I hear him speak, I really miss the old days of him uploading valuable 10x content like this almost every week, but happy to see he pursues his passion although it means for him not stepping infront of a camera a lot
Interesting interview. Sam makes the "how to choose what to focus on" portion of this interview sound "messy and hard", but it's the exact domain of product management. There are a number of techniques to solve those issues and to actually have data drive the direction of development. An experienced product manager will earn his pay here.
I think when Sam is talking about his conception of making choices, what he is describing is art. Creativity. You cannot formulaically determine what something will be. Every decision informs future decisions. It also is rarely realized through its initial conception, it’s revealed through iteration. If you become rigid, you kill the art.
What Sam intuitively grasps is that great art expresses an opinion. It’s not a formless miasma attempting to please everyone. It’s clearly defined for a particular viewpoint.
Oh yes Sam has a very loyal audience 🙂 I dont think it is small at all . Not sure where it came from ! Sam is basically the best person to listen to in many areas of your life
Adventure into the unknown is something that calls out to us all - and offers stupendous rewards. But only if we have the courage to set out on our quest, and the awareness to make wise choices along the way, will we reap the rewards.
Hi Leon, great name by the way! On here because I wanted to hear Sam Ovens interview one-on-one. I'm at the point in the interview when you told him that you found him through his ads and then watched all his RU-vid videos and bought his courses, not because you wanted to become a consultant but because you like his content. Specifically, how he thinks, with systems thinking and first principles approach. Same here. I'm researching my niche and been using his content and conversations like these to help inform my perspective. Finished listening to his monk mode RU-vid video from 5+ years ago before this interview. Fast forward to now, and I'm grateful to witness the contrast in his thinking, and I'm glad to hear how adding fluidity to his day has been energizing (and to you as well, as you shared). I'm heading in the right direction. It feels right especially with the encouragement to lean in on what I am passionate about (and in tune with my personality) and what the market wants. I'm introverted like Sam, an INTJ, and I think this is why I resonate with how he thinks. Anyway, I really appreciate this long-form style you are transitioning into. Just subscribed! I know Sam is right, some will unsubscribe, but being the real you will draw in those who like you for who you truly are. Great content! Thanks!
I've always had so much respect for Sam Ovens and his worldviews as he seems to very similar to me in nature (I don't like cameras; I love to think, question dogmas and common beliefs, wondering about stuff and creating frameworks), and this podcast just made my like him even more. I know he doesn't give a damn, though, haha. Thanks for sharing this with us, Leon. I also was one of the people who wondered where he disappeared.
The quality of these pods are great Leon, that's not the "problem". People are unsubscribing and the analytics aren't great because this is not the type of content the majority of your audience originally subscribed to your channel for. In fact it's almost the complete opposite so it's to be expected that you will lose people with each upload.
I feel like Sam is a little embarrassed by his old videos... It's awesome that he has evolved and isn't that extreme anymore. But his old videos are still amazing!! 🙌
You spooke about him in a podcast before and since then i have his name written down on my whiteboard, but never googled him or watched a video of him. So happy that you uploaded this video, now i can finally watch Sam Ovens and remove his name from my whiteboard 😂
Success frees you to explore. Monk mode is probably required, at least to some extent, regardless of how much you believe you're passionate about something.
Pretty enjoyable convo. Sam was so cringe but now just seems like a more mature dude with life experience who isn't all about the grind. One thing. Iwould say is, Sam, try not to think about work when with your kid, it goes fast. Slow down, take deep breaths and BE THERE FULLY!
I wonder how much of this comes with age. I did the same as Sam in terms of in my 20's I forced myself to do stuff I didn't wanna do because that's what I thought you had to do to be successful. I made good money (not as much as Sam) but I engineered myself into a daily existence I hated. Now I'm 40 I refuse to do anything I don't enjoy. Life's too short to do stuff you don't wanna do just to make some money to buy stuff you don't need to impress people that don't care anyway. To me when I get to the end of my life if I enjoyed the ride that's ultimately the most important thing. I'd rather have enjoyed it but be broke rather than have hated it but be rich. Of course the magic is achieving both.
53:37 one of the biggest takeaways from the interview. I missed $400K by two months with that same thesis. I could have waited just a bit longer if I kept to the plan.
