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$12 Casio Diving Watch!? MythBusting Water Resistance 

Harrison Elmore
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Today we're testing and mythbusting the common held view of water resistance in watches by using a $12 Casio F91W.
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@HarrisonElmore
@HarrisonElmore 3 месяца назад
Check out my shorts to see the test done by holding it up in the air, pressurizing the tank and then lowering it into the water to look for bubbles. Future videos the test will be performed this way. Hopefully this still shows the ability of the watch regardless! Thanks everyone!
@AhmadSleeq
@AhmadSleeq 3 месяца назад
Harrison just single handedly destroyed the diving watch market haha
@HarrisonElmore
@HarrisonElmore 3 месяца назад
The rotating bezels are cool though!
@wyldwiisel9126
@wyldwiisel9126 3 месяца назад
I use a Casio Dura not wasting 1000s on an expensive watch
@robbied4766
@robbied4766 3 месяца назад
@@wyldwiisel9126 That Duro will handle anything you throw at it.
@mlmperez1114
@mlmperez1114 3 месяца назад
😂😅 NOT a diver just an average snorkeler & pool commando. I’m a Casio fanboy 😂
@renebense
@renebense 3 месяца назад
Finally, the whole story about water resistant watches. That took nearly 10 years of watching YT reviews to get to this comprehensive detailed video. Bravo..!!
@HarrisonElmore
@HarrisonElmore 3 месяца назад
Glad I could help!
@OngoGablogian185
@OngoGablogian185 3 месяца назад
I took an F91W on my PADI Advanced course and went down to 100ft. It was absolutely fine.
@nongoddd
@nongoddd Месяц назад
Hahahah
@johnrb9397
@johnrb9397 3 месяца назад
It’s revealing and depressing at the same time. In reality all we need is a $12 watch unless we are going to the Operatic theatre.
@antevrankovic4539
@antevrankovic4539 3 месяца назад
waech is a toy for making yourself happy
@HarrisonElmore
@HarrisonElmore 3 месяца назад
Unfortunately yes
@mattkinsella9856
@mattkinsella9856 3 месяца назад
Agreed, it is a little depressing. I have 7 watches totalling a few thousand bucks and the truth is I wear my Casio more often than any other. It's worth noting it's not just any $12 watch, it's a Casio.
@kresimirpleic
@kresimirpleic 3 месяца назад
Nah. I wouldn't want to wear a piece on plastic strapped directly to my skin every day. That can't be good, can it?
@antevrankovic4539
@antevrankovic4539 3 месяца назад
@@kresimirpleic still, drinking and eating from plastic must be much safer
@loganpierce9244
@loganpierce9244 3 месяца назад
I’ve been telling this to the dive watch and watch community in general for years and the topic has almost always become heated. Thank you for your video.
@HarrisonElmore
@HarrisonElmore 3 месяца назад
Appreciate it!
@HydrogenAlpha
@HydrogenAlpha 3 месяца назад
Finally, a comprehensive answer to the "maybe you can wash your hands with a modern 30m water resistant watch" people. I swim with my speedy all the time.
@aussieexpatwatches
@aussieexpatwatches 3 месяца назад
I don't think you're using the machine correctly. Your meant to pressurize with the watch above the water level. Let it sit. Then lower into the water. Then slowly release the pressure and watch to see if bubbles are released from the watch.
@HarrisonElmore
@HarrisonElmore 3 месяца назад
I’ll make a short doing the same test this way. Good callout. Clearly it still should work, but we’ll see. Took too much time researching ISO certs and not enough on the machine
@rbalfanz
@rbalfanz 3 месяца назад
Why is that the methodology? My guess is one might assume it’s more realistic because on a dive you’d start in air then go to water. But in this tank isn’t the air at the same pressure as the water, which is of course unlike real life? Am I misunderstanding something?
@jeebusmcfries8114
@jeebusmcfries8114 3 месяца назад
@@rbalfanz since air molecules are smaller than water molecules, if it's airtight, then it's definitely water tight. The correct method allows you to check the seals without risking water getting into the watch.
@bugdrvr
@bugdrvr 3 месяца назад
@@jeebusmcfries8114 Exactly. Airtight is as good as water tight and if a seal has failed you didn't fill the watch with water. You'll see where the bubbles come out and know where the problem is.
@aussieexpatwatches
@aussieexpatwatches 3 месяца назад
@@rbalfanz as others have said, it's not meant to be a destructive test if possible. The other aspect, it's hard to observe water intrusion. But a bubble stream is easier to observe.
@meindertsprang7491
@meindertsprang7491 3 месяца назад
One specific thing you did not mention about ISO 6425 is that this standard requires every single watch that is being produced, to be pressure tested up to the rated depth + 25% and remain at that pressure for 2 hours. After that test, a condensation test must be performed to check for water ingress. This means that if you buy a watch that has "DIVERS 200 m" on the dial, that that very watch has been at a pressure equivalent to the rated depth + 25%. I am glad that you debunked the myths about water resistance.
@HarrisonElmore
@HarrisonElmore 3 месяца назад
Very good point! You are correct!
@folksurvival
@folksurvival 3 месяца назад
Plus other durability tests.
@meindertsprang7491
@meindertsprang7491 3 месяца назад
@@folksurvival No. All other tests mentioned in ISO6425 are so called type tests, meaning these are only performed on a newly developed watch when it goes into production. Only the waterproofing and condensation tests are performed on each and every watch.
@Chopperdriver
@Chopperdriver 3 месяца назад
Very interesting! I’ve never even considered any watch less than 200m and I don’t even dive anymore 😂
@koolpep
@koolpep 3 месяца назад
A small step for the F91W - a huge leap for GodTier watch lovers
@Reality.Watches
@Reality.Watches 3 месяца назад
Nico would B proud mate 😊
@miguelbazaes1409
@miguelbazaes1409 3 месяца назад
Sorry man, you do not know how to use the device, You fill it with water, place the watch inside above the water level, then pressurise the tank, put the watch under the water, then realese the pressure, if the watch get any pressure from the tank, there will be bubles from the liking part of the watch.
@juliusschmidt7858
@juliusschmidt7858 3 месяца назад
You are absolutely right
@K0MBIAN
@K0MBIAN 3 месяца назад
That's the correct procedure for a watch maker testing an empty case. On the other hand, if you want to show your RU-vid viewers that your hand cranked pressure tester can't destroy a $12 Casio watch, you start the stop watch and drop it in the water before cranking the pressure up to see if the watch is destroyed.
@crazypj6937
@crazypj6937 2 месяца назад
Today i mistakly scratched my my watch from iron bench in school 😢😢
@robertkennedy498
@robertkennedy498 Месяц назад
IUse my f91w for sailing, shallow water diving, and swimming, here on the south shore of long island. Have had the same one for almost 10 years and it's been great!😂
@noisepuppet
@noisepuppet 3 месяца назад
I think the minimal water resistance rating on the basic Casios is partly because you're not supposed to operate the buttons under water. But I believe you can do so on the basic G-Shock square DW5600. That's a $50 watch that does almost everything, and you can drag it through hell. On the low end, I prefer the F105 to the F91 because of the EL backlight, which is like Timex Indiglo. Similarly, in stainless (with a metal plated resin case), I like the A168 better than the A158 for the same reason. Overall, it's incredible how good these are for the money.
@MajesticRidez
@MajesticRidez 3 месяца назад
😂😂 you can’t imagine how many times I hear “but bruh your watch isn’t 200 meter iso certified” it got to the point were I just say and nether are you
@ak983625
@ak983625 3 месяца назад
I’ve a small watch collection of maybe a dozen. In 2020, I bought a F91 for sometimes sports wear. Always love it. Not that it really matters, it now has a nylon strap and my old casio A700 module inside. In Feb 2024, it accidentally went through a full wash /dry laundry cycle. No issues or damage. Recently opened the back, dry as a bone. Thats enough water resistance for me.
@platinum_knowledge
@platinum_knowledge 3 месяца назад
Thank you. These WR myths need to end. Too many people are missing out on great watches because they are under 100m WR.
@HarrisonElmore
@HarrisonElmore 3 месяца назад
Agreed!
@mountainhobo
@mountainhobo 3 месяца назад
The only reason I spent $20 on my plastic Casio digital watch is that it has a much bigger font than the F91W, so I can read it at a glance even with my aging eyes. I swim in it in salt water (rinse it later), I wear it in a pouring rain, and in any other inclement weather that Florida can throw at me. Zero problems. I would never spend thousands of dollars on a beater watch. That's insane. Dress watch might be different, but beater watch? No.
@ex0ticx0x
@ex0ticx0x 3 месяца назад
Which casio model do u have?
@mountainhobo
@mountainhobo 3 месяца назад
@@ex0ticx0x AE1500WH-5AV.
@johnm5131
@johnm5131 3 месяца назад
funny thing is that I used to snorkel-dive with a swatch all thru the 1980's to depths of about 15 feet. This is what most recreational watches go thru. I never had a leak. Fast-forward to recent times and manufacturers tell usthat the same "30M" rating is only good for "splashing". Shows that these companies lowered standards to what they wanted to, to achieve cost-savings and reduce liability. As a side note, the author of this video is quoting the "new" ISO rating that came out 12 years ago and is optional (ISO22810). Most companies still use the older 30-100-200 ratings that had the "splash"/"Swim"/Dive levels.
@andrewallen9993
@andrewallen9993 3 месяца назад
Buy a Russian Vostok Amphibia. Those are really waterproof unless you dive to depths that would kill you in which case you won't need a watch.
@ConstanTime
@ConstanTime 3 месяца назад
By far the most interesting video in any RU-vid watch channel in ages
@HarrisonElmore
@HarrisonElmore 3 месяца назад
Glad to hear it!
@NYGOLD
@NYGOLD 3 месяца назад
Very well explained, I don't think most people understand how deep 100 meters is. 99% of the time is someone's watch is deeper than 20 feet it's because it fell off of their wrist. This might be a big ask but can you do the pressure test on a Casio "Duro" MDV106? That's probably the most affordable dive watch on the market. Casio claims a 200m WR with this watch, it would just be nice to know. Thanks!!!
@thetattedpharmacist3215
@thetattedpharmacist3215 3 месяца назад
Would this hold true of automatic watches from companies such as Seiko who at 3Bar WR actually state not to swim with it?
@meindertsprang7491
@meindertsprang7491 3 месяца назад
Yes. That is exactly what the ISO 22810 standard is all about. If you state 30 m, it should handle 30 m at least.
@thodorissaritziotis3306
@thodorissaritziotis3306 3 месяца назад
I wear my F91w during my swim work outs in the pool. I swim 1,5 km twice a week, doing all kind of strokes, freestyle, butterfly, back stroke, breast stroke... no problem! Works perfectly fine! 👌😊 It really must be the best watch for the price and with a cool history to go with it! Can't go wrong! Great video! Thanks for clarifying!
@HarrisonElmore
@HarrisonElmore 3 месяца назад
Awesome to hear!
@orvillefindley8117
@orvillefindley8117 3 месяца назад
I think it was 1971 when watch makers had to stop calling their watches waterproof and instead say water resistant. You will often find vintage watches from the early 70's where the case back will say water resistant but the dial will say say waterproof. This is because the dial was made before the date of the change. Most diver type watches will state the minimum water resistance and rarely the maximum. The Vostok Amphibia has a 200m water resistant rating but has achieved twice that. 👍
@urrra
@urrra 3 месяца назад
I used a Vostok komandirskie for daily and it also had 200m water resistance
@andrewallen9993
@andrewallen9993 3 месяца назад
800 metres before it stops working and 1200 metres before it implodes and leaks water 😁
@orvillefindley8117
@orvillefindley8117 3 месяца назад
@@andrewallen9993 The Vostok Amphibia was designed for the soviet military.
@andrewallen9993
@andrewallen9993 3 месяца назад
@@orvillefindley8117 So the designers and manufacturers would have received a long holiday in a Siberian salt mine if the watches WEREN'T as waterproof as stated 😁
@orvillefindley8117
@orvillefindley8117 3 месяца назад
@@andrewallen9993 It was actually Stalin who started the Soviet watch making industry immediately after WWll. It came about when a lot of soldiers returned with watches that were given to them by Western forces. The original Amphibia was not available to the general public and could only be purchased by soldiers at designated military shops. I have a very nice Vostok Amphibia and a Komanderskie with the KGB dial. 👍
@lihanou
@lihanou 3 месяца назад
Ty for busting myth. The other day someone on Reddit was just arguing with me Tissot gentleman with 100 wr isn’t good enough for diving which is just ludicrous.
@xamolxis
@xamolxis 3 месяца назад
Cloun,that is not how to use the device
@bolgerguide
@bolgerguide 3 месяца назад
You did not read the direction that came with the machine? With the watch OUT of the water, bring the air pressure up to 3 atmosperes. Wait a minute or two then lower the watch into the water. Release the air pressure and observe if any bubbles come out of the watch.
@SirGwl
@SirGwl 3 месяца назад
I am guessing this means that the test he has done is worthless?
@bolgerguide
@bolgerguide 3 месяца назад
​@SirGwl pretty much useless by waterproof watch standards used by watchmakers all over the world.
@bas4241
@bas4241 2 месяца назад
Yes, the way he did it, you would not be able to tell if water was getting inside the case…
@truenorthmuskoka9077
@truenorthmuskoka9077 3 месяца назад
You’re not using the instrument correctly. You must pressurize the vessel while the watch is above the water. Once pressurized then you lower it into the water. This prevents water from entering the watch if its not water resistant. When you slowly release the pressure bubbles will start coming out of the watch if its not water resistant. At this point lift the watch out of the water and no harm will be done.
@geoffreydlin8043
@geoffreydlin8043 3 месяца назад
Question: if air escapes the watch, isn’t it being replaced by water? Also, is the test in the video a complete bust that negates the conclusion? (lol. Physics is tough for me!)
@mtbbiker6401
@mtbbiker6401 3 месяца назад
Bergeon SA has an instructional video on their RU-vid channel. I've seen more than one RU-vidr do it wrong.
@mtbbiker6401
@mtbbiker6401 3 месяца назад
@@geoffreydlin8043 The air in the watch is not replaced by water. As soon as you see bubbles coming out, you lift it out of the water. I'd say the video is a bust.
@geoffreydlin8043
@geoffreydlin8043 3 месяца назад
I think I figured it out. When the watch is pressurized through the air, if air squeezes into the case, when it’s immersed into the water and pressure is released, the water is just there to see the air escaping in the form of bubbles.… Right? The water doesn’t do anything except help visualize what’s going on.
@mtbbiker6401
@mtbbiker6401 3 месяца назад
@@geoffreydlin8043 Correct! I suppose if you don't lift the watch out of the water in time after depressurizing then you risk water entering the watch.
@blairtaylor9552
@blairtaylor9552 3 месяца назад
Most divers are going to rely on their dive computer anyway, so at most a wristwatch is just a cheap back-up. I've only done about 100 dives, mostly in Cozumel. Most of the divemasters on the boats there wear Casio's like this one. The safest way to go is with very simple and minimal and well-maintained equipment. A 300m Omega Professional or a Submariner or whatever are only for dumb bragging rights. Don't wear them while washing or in the shower though- soapy water gets past the seals much easier!
@ragetobe
@ragetobe 3 месяца назад
ISO testing means nothing, the most famous dive watch of them all has zero iso rating and yet I use it to dive and have been below 40m. I am a professional diver.
@lucioweht2161
@lucioweht2161 3 месяца назад
Are you saying rolex sub ???
@ragetobe
@ragetobe 3 месяца назад
@@lucioweht2161 I think you know I am, unless there is another “most famous" dive watch!
@robertl.6919
@robertl.6919 3 месяца назад
Most of us, watch enthusiastic gullible idiots are buying expensive diving watches because… they look so cool. We don’t even swim deeper than 2 meters… Right ? 😊
@pclarin
@pclarin 3 месяца назад
Nice video. Thanks.
@justinharrison9521
@justinharrison9521 3 месяца назад
The additional margin you need is in case you strike your watch against a hard surface (scuba tank, rocks, etc). An engineering margin of safety is usually double the max static pressure something might be exposed to. Underwater is a pretty harsh environment and the testing is under idyllic conditions (static temperatures, clean water) so I’d expect the spec to be more conservative.
@PhantomObserver
@PhantomObserver 3 месяца назад
A Casio F91W actually has a reputation for being used under water. I’d like to see this test done with a Timex Easy Reader or Marlin or an Orient Bambino, some watch that *doesn’t* have that reputation for toughness.
@PhineasPhlob
@PhineasPhlob 3 месяца назад
My father in law wears his Orient Bambino while swimming (weekly for the last three or four years). It's not scuba diving but no problems with the watch so far.
@bunnyban5365
@bunnyban5365 2 месяца назад
It was used by a very famous deep scuba diver in diving up to 30m just to have fun 😂
@listercruz5581
@listercruz5581 3 месяца назад
Watch is a device to measure time . At some point it became jewlery.
@vg9073
@vg9073 3 месяца назад
I own one. Been swimming with it in the UK cold ass sea every day for years. Still works to this day
@מאיררובינשטיין-צ4פ
@מאיררובינשטיין-צ4פ 3 месяца назад
Wrong test ! Water tight is the test when you pressurize the conteiner with the watch above the liquid then release presure and lower the watch to the water No bubbles should get of the watch
@deathb4digital
@deathb4digital 3 месяца назад
The F91w generally fails at 200m as the acrylic caves in.
@jpdemer5
@jpdemer5 3 месяца назад
Good to know. 🙄
@bunnyban5365
@bunnyban5365 3 месяца назад
Yeah…. I think humans die first before the watch does 😂
@deathb4digital
@deathb4digital 3 месяца назад
@@jpdemer5 This same channel has a video entitled "$30 Casio = 600ft Under Water?!" showing an A158 failing at 200m.
@scootermann83
@scootermann83 3 месяца назад
Did the tester come with instructions? It's being used incorrectly here.
@ericdoe2318
@ericdoe2318 3 месяца назад
If I’m at the river or in water I take the Casio I like the protreck line a lot! I have a few but my ole PRG-240 is my go to. Remember to replace your o-rings every ten years!
@barclt01
@barclt01 3 месяца назад
That test just destroyed all of the Rolex fan boys!🤣🤣🤣
@jaysterling26
@jaysterling26 3 месяца назад
Sir, can you rinse & repeat this using the same watch until the gaskets give up? Thank you in advance from a spend resistant watch collector.
@t28mcd
@t28mcd 3 месяца назад
I still like to have at least 300m for washing dishes
@blaisecedrickgomez
@blaisecedrickgomez 3 месяца назад
Finally, someone said it and back it with hard facts. You Sir, have earned my subscription.
@HarrisonElmore
@HarrisonElmore 3 месяца назад
Thanks!
@j.p.9522
@j.p.9522 3 месяца назад
You should put the Omega Speedmaster in that pressure chamber to see what it can really handle.
@jpdemer5
@jpdemer5 3 месяца назад
Yours first! The bubble test would be what you want to do: (1) 60m of air pressure, then (2) dunk it, then (3) release the pressure.
@DougRousso
@DougRousso 3 месяца назад
Wow man, you’ve really got to do this test correctly my man. You are NOT supposed to put the watch into the water until AFTER you’ve pressurized the tank! LOL. Leave it above the water, then pressurize the tank and wait a minute or two to let the watch equalize. Then, lower the watch into the water! And THEN slowing release the pressure valve and if you see bubble coming from the watch as you release pressure, you know it’s not water proof.
@robbbbery
@robbbbery 3 месяца назад
@harrisonelmore I hope you see this comment. I loved the video, but the fact that the watch is running doesn't mean there wasn't leakage. It's all about the bubbles! I hope you will consider modifying your technique and making a ton more WR test videos, I'll watch and like every one of them.
@StagnantMizu
@StagnantMizu 3 месяца назад
Now fill it with mineral oil and it can go in the meriana trench
@TomJones-tx7pb
@TomJones-tx7pb 3 месяца назад
Great advice for non divers. I am a highly experienced diver, and trained to a very high level by world class professionals. I use housings on the surface and at depth, and the seals are at greatest risk of leaking when at the surface and dunking the housing in a freshwater rinse tank (not recommended). This is because the seals are not under pressure and so are at their least resistant to working. That is why the standards are different for splash and depth. When diving, I may have a dive computer on each wrist of different brands, one of which is wirelessly connected to a tank pressure meter, and a third dive computer physically connected to the tank. All of this is to not get caught out by equipment failure in the wild. In other words, when I dive I have no space to wear a dive watch, so in a watch for me splash resistance is way more important than depth.
@johnrb9397
@johnrb9397 3 месяца назад
Love it Harrison. Just need to wear a lab coat and you’re done 😊
@HarrisonElmore
@HarrisonElmore 3 месяца назад
Next time!
@msp459
@msp459 3 месяца назад
I dive with my f91 at maximun of 30 m usually
@sennamontea1380
@sennamontea1380 3 месяца назад
so many cool aspect of this video, but remember without light source, you do not want to be pushing any built in light button on casio. And oil filling them will probably make them last to the abyssal zone. I think I've seen a 2100 g shock oil filled to be able to do that on youtube.
@rayseaman6204
@rayseaman6204 3 месяца назад
It is the quality I am concerned about. A Hamilton Khaki Field claims 50 meters water resistance. But, will it really do it ? The F-91W just proved its Legendary status. I look forward to your other tests.
@chateaubullion2560
@chateaubullion2560 3 месяца назад
This was great! Thanks for clearing up about water resistance tolerance for us layman. I've been collecting watches for a long time but just took for granted that 30 meters meant it was good for getting it just a bit wet. I have many watches from that same Casio to Rolex Sub and now I know I don't have to worry too much about water tolerance.
@richardporter1564
@richardporter1564 3 месяца назад
Outstanding demonstration and explanation, dude! Ignore all the negative Nancy comments because everyone is an "expert" on RU-vid. Looking forward to seeing more content.
@stefanaichner489
@stefanaichner489 3 месяца назад
i forgot to change my 60m rated IWC spitfire for my 500m rated Sinn U50 dive watch and went surfing with it. it is a 5000$ watch and water got in it. it cost me a packet to have it fixed. so just because this casio can withstand a high pressure doesn't mean that all the watches on the market withstand the depth it says on them. if its iso certified then you can believe the depth rating. if not then you better stick with the manufacturers recommendations. nobody goes diving with a 50m rated speadmaster.
@spgk6470
@spgk6470 3 месяца назад
finally some sence. All people here act like the manufacturers diminish their watches capabilities and 30m wr is suddenly diver's ready.
@bunnyban5365
@bunnyban5365 3 месяца назад
This is absolutely true Only casio Can do this Because they have a very standardized automated wr test
@Will_E_Wonty
@Will_E_Wonty 3 месяца назад
Excellent video but it does depend on manufacturers reliably stating the actual ratings of their watches.
@Mark-sd7fc
@Mark-sd7fc День назад
I own around 15 Seiko 200m WR vacation swimming pool watches
@EmilioBaldi
@EmilioBaldi 3 месяца назад
A friend found a similar Casio among the rocks shore submerged for who knows how long, he cleaned it and it works perfectly.
@Dr_LK
@Dr_LK 3 месяца назад
Thanks for dispelling all the misunderstandings about diving depths and pressures, etc
@HarrisonElmore
@HarrisonElmore 3 месяца назад
You bet!
@superdad4324
@superdad4324 3 месяца назад
Awesome video! I believe you have to pump up the pressure while the watch is above water for the air to get in the case, than submerge and release the pressure above to see if the high pressured air (should it have got in the case) now escape to equalise the pressure.
@haping1
@haping1 3 месяца назад
Yep, that's how you should test...
@wonderwatch2239
@wonderwatch2239 3 месяца назад
Isn’t that only to avoid water ingress, in case of an expensive watch? This way is more realistic
@superdad4324
@superdad4324 3 месяца назад
@@wonderwatch2239 You are pressurising the air above the water, the air will only get in if the seals are compromised. When you suddenly drop the pressure the pressurised air will escape. You drop it in the water to see those bubbles escape. The water serves as an indicator to see the bubbles and not to provide the pressure.
@invictusunum4808
@invictusunum4808 3 месяца назад
I think that's just for checking for air leaks in empty watch cases for automatic watches.
@jeebusmcfries8114
@jeebusmcfries8114 3 месяца назад
@@wonderwatch2239 air molecules are smaller than water molecules. if it's airtight, it's definitely water tight
@adrianhargreaves2854
@adrianhargreaves2854 3 месяца назад
I want to see that test with the omega 😂😂 But yes I think you have to hang the watch in the air then dunk it 👍
@kennkingg
@kennkingg 3 месяца назад
I been saying this for years because I’ve swam and dove with lots of cheap watches just like that one
@PlugInRides
@PlugInRides 7 дней назад
Water resistance ratings are measured on brand new watches. The main reason dive watches have what appear to be overkill depth ratings is that water resistance can degrade as a watch ages, especially with repeated exposure to salt water and pressure changes. A 200m or 300m rated watch will be safe for normal scuba depths five years down the line, even if the seals and gaskets have slightly shrunk or degraded. How many watch owners want to be told that the 50m watch failed under water because it was two years old. BTW - I had a 50m watch fail after swimming and mild jacuzzi exposure, in the first week, something a 200m watch can handle.
@turnbasedtoddy7664
@turnbasedtoddy7664 3 месяца назад
Thank you! I have argued with so many of my watch friends about this. They always say 30 meters is not really water resistant and I always tell them yes it is! It drives me crazy. Just a side note, you’re supposed to pump the pressure in when the watch is above the water then lower it down into the water and then release the pressure. That’s how to use these. The watch still would have been fine but just wanted to throw that out there.
@riocc
@riocc 9 дней назад
Ooh, also, can you try and get it to 40m depth pressure as fast as possible? Descent speed could matter in this respect. Once a year I do a negative entry down to 40m, meaning; drop backward off the zodiac boat and immediately going down to 40m headfirst as fast as possible.
@IulianMihaiu
@IulianMihaiu 3 месяца назад
After I bought my g-shocks, the 5000u, the rangeman, the protrek and all other models I ended wearing just two: the F91W and the GW6900, the ugliest and the most robust mfkr of all 😁
@benironside1264
@benironside1264 17 дней назад
Water resistance obsession in the watch community makes me laugh. People were outraged when the new seiko 5s only had 100 meters of water resistance. The deep end of most pools are about 2.5 meters. I bet 99% of the people buy watch’s have never swam deeper than 5 meters 😂
@handcoding
@handcoding 3 месяца назад
1:48 - Is there by chance a typo in part 5 here? Because “30 cm + 2 cm” (for a total of 32 cm or about 12.6 inches) doesn’t seem like much depth? Also (2:25), you helpfully go over about how ISO 22810 requires that watches be able to withstand being submerged to the actual depth of their rated water resistance (which I didn’t know!). And along those lines, does ISO 22810 apply to all watches? Or by chance might some watch brands still continue to use the old way where 30 m of water resistance means “splash resistant”?
@julianhowarth1075
@julianhowarth1075 2 месяца назад
I could be completely wrong, but i think the hype was originally caused by the Swiss watch manufacturers, who were milking consumers with their high prices. Casio blew the lid off the watch industry, with their bulletproof digital watches. Many high end Swiss watches are marked "Officially certified" on the dial. In order to bear this label, their watches had to be tested and approved by a Swiss testing house. Ive never seen any top Japanese watch, Seiko etc, bear this mark of excellence. I very much doubt that many Japanese watches are unable to meet these standards. Any thoughts ? .....
@muppetpaster
@muppetpaster 2 месяца назад
Why are you mixing up/confusing "water resistance" claims with "waterproof" claims? Apparently people seem to mix up these completely different terms. Even big watch corporations/brands make this mistake..Water resistance means "humidity protected" for a limited time... So imo a pretty pointless test/clip.
@cmdrflint9115
@cmdrflint9115 3 месяца назад
That’s rather misinformed tbh. I mean, sure that cheap Casio CAN withstand the pressure, but has nothing useful for a diver, it’s small, hard to read at a glance, no bezel to actually time your dive, exposed and easily pressed buttons (which btw will cause water ingress if operated underwater). I can take a potato down with me when I dive, it’ll cope with the pressure just fine, but much like this Casio, I have no use for it as a diver. Don’t get me wrong, I think some of the crazy high ratings are largely meaningless and just a d**k measuring contest amongst manufacturers. I occasionally use a 1200m dive watch as a backup for a DC, the watch may survive that depth, I certainly wouldn’t! But more often than not, I don’t even wear a watch while diving. Dive computers are reliable as heck, taking an old school dive watch down with you is just for nostalgia at this point.
@mtbbiker6401
@mtbbiker6401 3 месяца назад
Bergeon SA has an instructional video on their channel...just saying.
@leks85
@leks85 3 месяца назад
When was snorkelling with My cheap 30m watch it all went with a fog. Even though I never descent more than 5m. Probably because I have been pressing buttons submerged
@patrickandkennafenwick3958
@patrickandkennafenwick3958 2 месяца назад
PADI open water is only 60’?? I’m ACUC open water - just the level 1 basic and we’re certified to 100’.
@Dave062YT
@Dave062YT 3 месяца назад
i've dived below 30m wearing f91w just to prove a point .i reckon it could go 100m in a test at a push Mechanical watches stop when the compressed case touches the movement .Don't get that with quartz and if you fill the case with oil a cheap quartz diver will go insane depths ,below 1000m
@bestopinion9257
@bestopinion9257 3 месяца назад
Water resistance is a rating. Accordingly to this rating: 30 meters - rain and accidental splashes 50 meters - as above + shower 100 meters - as above + swimming 200 meters - as above + light diving So you do not even need to make tests.
@TheWuFinancial
@TheWuFinancial 22 дня назад
I actually do need a 250m Swiss automatic dive watch so I can tell the time slightly inaccurately while free diving to the Oceangate wreckage.
@willh.2155
@willh.2155 2 месяца назад
Now if it's salty water, I'd agree that you've truly tested and proved your point. Since this is fresh water (I assume), even IF the water gets in, it won't immediately stop the watch. Just sayin...
@tohian
@tohian 3 месяца назад
Thank you. It’s about time someone did this. Liked and subbed. 🙏
@riocc
@riocc 9 дней назад
Deep certification (40m) is pretty standard in Europe… not so much in the states then? I assumed it’d be rather the same…
@vaclav_fejt
@vaclav_fejt 3 месяца назад
The question that hasn't been asked or answered: How long will shose seals last? People go overboard with water resistance, because they want to make sure that even old seals will hold water while swimming. Some industrial rubber hoses have to be replaced after six years at the latest, because rubber breaks down over time. Yet, many people wear G-shocks for decades without opening them (and breaking the factory seals, which benefits them as well).
@JM-gy6zb
@JM-gy6zb 3 месяца назад
This should be required viewing for RU-vid watch content creators. Almost every one of them is still spreading disinformation about water resistance.
@crybabychrononaut
@crybabychrononaut 3 месяца назад
But....but....but it looks really cool and makes me feel special when it says "200" on the dial!
@matt_matt_matt6775
@matt_matt_matt6775 3 месяца назад
I just stumbled across the h20 kalmar 2 Deep Diver. It’s rated at 25,000 meters. Can you test that next please? I’m interested in exploring the bottom of the ocean and I need a watch I can depend on.
@jeromemartin4145
@jeromemartin4145 3 месяца назад
"you don't need a 300 meter water resistant watch you're dead you're crushed before you even get close to that depth" This is a testament to how poorly some PADI instructors are doing their job of teaching any generic notion of diving to their students. Being a certified diver and spreading that kind of nonsense to the whole internet is appalling. Please do some research regarding deep scuba diving. I've personally attended technical diving classes with instructors who went lower than that. You have no idea what you're talking about. The gas you breathe is at the same pressure as the ambient water, you're not going to get crushed, you're not in a submarine or any other kind of pressure vessel when you are scuba diving !
@bradleyzimmerman4184
@bradleyzimmerman4184 3 месяца назад
I like the people who brag about their watches depth rating. There are only a handful of people on the planet who have ever dived 200 to 300 meters. Divers know this, many watch aficionados do not and they sound like uneducated idiots.
@iceicebaby6980
@iceicebaby6980 3 месяца назад
Legibility is key. Some also have some other neat functions. If you have the money and value your life, isn't it worth an extra few hundred to do your passion? Life is short, wear what you want. When I dive, I enjoy flexing. Some don't.
@540058
@540058 3 месяца назад
So, you mean the 50m water resist form my Casio w59 (23 USD on amazon) is a overkill? 😭😭😭😭😭
@MB-hv2nk
@MB-hv2nk 3 месяца назад
Thank you for this. This is excellent content!
@HarrisonElmore
@HarrisonElmore 3 месяца назад
Glad you enjoy it!
@swiss86watches
@swiss86watches 3 месяца назад
Thank u from Japan 🇯🇵 under promises over delivered just subscribe 😊
@deebee3901
@deebee3901 2 месяца назад
The thing with the CASIO watch is not to press any of the buttons when you are under water. If you do press the buttons, I have read that it will leak. NO, I have not tested this theory.
@1993reefblue
@1993reefblue 3 месяца назад
I've swam with cheap Timex and Casio watches all my life and never had one failure. Makes me lol when all the watch experts won't take them near water if there under 100m. 🤣
@bas4241
@bas4241 2 месяца назад
The way you did this test would ruin a watch that leaks. You need to pressurize it above the water, let it sit for 3to 5 minutes, and then submerge, release the pressure , and look for bubbles. That way no water gets into the watch.
@vipnetworker
@vipnetworker 3 месяца назад
Casio Royale > F91w $8 more = 100x better watch. Plus… the Royale is cool.
@zakwilken
@zakwilken 3 месяца назад
Ok sure, a good production model in ideal conditions works fine... but when I went to de-bone a chicken and then washed my hands the display just died 🤷
@jims4539
@jims4539 3 месяца назад
Best WR video to date. Thanks.
@wayneholmes637
@wayneholmes637 3 месяца назад
It would be better if you used the depth tester correctly.
@jstrat121
@jstrat121 3 месяца назад
Yup, pressurize with watch out of the water…..then dip watch and release pressure…..look for bubbles. He did it wrong.
@jayheslin803
@jayheslin803 3 месяца назад
Not questioning you, but does the way he did it still represent going from ambient atmosperic pressure at a given elevation to 60 meters ? If he lets the watch sit for a period and then releases pressure? Also, how would one pressurize the chamber without the watch and then place the watch in the water without opening the chamber and releasing the pressure to do so? Something doesn't make sense there. Could you clarify?
@redauwg911
@redauwg911 3 месяца назад
@@jayheslin803 The rod in the tester moves up and down. Move rod up so watch is hanging in the air, pump up the tank let sit then lower the watch with the rod into the water, And release the air from the tank and look for bubbles coming out of the watch.
@jayheslin803
@jayheslin803 3 месяца назад
@redauwg911 Ok, that makes sense. Thanks for explaining how to properly use the equipment. Just one more question. Does the way he performed the test completely invalidate the results?
@redauwg911
@redauwg911 3 месяца назад
@@jayheslin803 Not completely but, Air molecules are smaller then water molecules.
@vipnetworker
@vipnetworker 3 месяца назад
The F91w is so tiny, it would be VERY hard to see under water. Get a AE1500 for $23 👍
@jaysho5461
@jaysho5461 3 месяца назад
Best thing ive seen was an F91 outperform deep dive watches just by being filled with oil.
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