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$33 Pipe Threader Vs. Ridgid Pipe Threader. HFS TAR-100 and Ridgid 12-R Pipe Threader Tools Compared

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In this video I'll show you the difference in quality and ease of use between a $33 HFS TAR-100 Pipe Threader and a used Ridgid 12-R pipe threader, threading 1 inch black iron pipe.
I'll show some of the pros and cons I have found. Is it worth it to you to buy the cheap pipe threader? How durable is it? Check this out.
I also briefly cover how to thread black iron pipe.
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@deightonharper877 2 года назад

Had one of these for years and loved it. Saved lots on money on gym fees. Shoulders and arms baby! Shoulders and arms 💪💪

@stephenrosenthal5252 3 года назад

Way more oil. You almost want the oil to cary the shavings out of the die. The shavings definitely give you more resistance plus ruin the threads you are making. Buy a couple quarts and pour a 1/4 cup every 2 turns. Have a basin underneath with a screen. Throw away all the oily shavings and keep reusing the oil. Also. Use your body weight to help you. Crank down not up. You will be able to use way less arms.

@LordGreybeardsChannelofWisdom 3 года назад

Lesson learned. More oil. Thanks for the input!

@presicionturning5672 3 года назад

if u put pipe on the left side of vise,,u cansave your back

@tek4 Год назад

That way you can use your weigh rather then back and strength to cut.

@user-ds1br3iu1t 8 месяцев назад

I watched this video to see the difference between a more expensive Ridgid pipe threader and HFS from Amazon that I had ordered and hadn’t received yet. I noticed the numbers on the cutter die heads for the 2 were reversed the Ridgid was 1-2-3-4 in a clockwise direction and the HRS was counter clockwise. I watched a Ridgid video on replacing and adjusting the cutter’s on their die head and decided to buy a Ridgid setup from eBay. I received the HRS unit from Amazon and the numbers were counter clockwise. I sent it back. Could that be why it was damaging threads and difficult to remove? Very happy with my eBay purchase and works great. Thanks for your video

@mikec5513 8 месяцев назад

Nice Video. I always have used Ridgid I consider it the best. But if you only have a few threads to cut and the threads don't have to seal this tool may be worth it. I have cut thousands of pipe threads in my over 50 years of work in the pipe trades. I echo some of the other comments use plenty of oil it lubricates and also helps keep the dies cool which is also important Also it must be the correct kind of oil specifically for cutting threads (Plumbing Supply Stores sell it by the half gallon) someone mentioned cutting oil has a high sulfur content the wrong oil is one of the things which will cause the broken threads you see in the video also bad dies will do the same. Also cutting on the down stroke using your body weight makes it much easier. Thanks for the info on the economy threader.

@letsgethandsdirty 3 года назад

Ur doing it wrong from teeth alignment to threading... While threading u must push the tool but ur pulling it which is using ur lot of energy..

@peterbeertema6494 3 года назад

I use a ton of oil compared to the amount you use and only 2 broken teeth in well over 100 threads on the 1 inch. You have to run more oil. I think the proper oil and more of it will help you out a lot. I really don't think it's all that bad in my opinion. I have the ridgid as well and an oster power threader. The power threader has a continuous stream of oil on the dies. Are you using oil with hi sulpur content? I bought this thing as a joke for a guy I work with but it surprised both of us. I had trouble with that spring too but I can't remember if I removed it. I'll check when I go to my shop. $55.00 I paid for mine with 5 sizes. Cheers

@LordGreybeardsChannelofWisdom 3 года назад

Thanks for the input. I really thought I was using enough oil, but I'm not an expert. I was using the Ridgid 70830 Dark Thread Cutting Oil.

@danbrown5133 3 года назад

You have to use more oil, its a must, that die will not tread properly, and will be a pain.

@MadMax-pt3yk 2 года назад

To get your job done without replacement teeth. Couldn't you have switch out the teeth from the other heads not being used?

@peterbeertema6494 2 года назад

@@MadMax-pt3yk actually what I meant to say was there's some threads missing on several of the dies. I don't know if you can put let's say a half inch die in a 3/4 inch die head. I'll take a look tomorrow

@GeneLucas2941 2 года назад

That's very useful information and explains a lot! I had a slightly different problem, though. I have a pipe cutter that looks similar to your $33 tool. Mine also cost about that much. After a few uses, my pipe cross section at the newly cut threads was becoming triangular instead of staying circular. A few more turns and my tool turned the already deformed pipe end to shreds. That was just regular galvanized pipe, not black pipe. My total thread length was just at about half an inch when the pipe end began to go triangular and then shred. I was working on a 3/4" SCH40 GI pipe and my die was marked 3/4" NPT. The blades had not yet even reached the pipe end! What could be the cause of that triangulation of the pipe profile? I followed all the RU-vid advise on lubricating as you cut, backing off the tool every so often, but same results. I did not have any broken teeth, though. My pipe also became oblong where my bench vise was biting it, due to constant spinning and tightening. Really a tough job!

@truthserum9157 2 года назад

Take the ring off and check the numbers 1 to 4 if not in the proper order it will destroy you pipe, could also be casting problems not accurate, sorry bro, you get what you pay for.

@LordGreybeardsChannelofWisdom 2 года назад

Sorry, I don't really know. I did this project as a one-off and don't really thread any more.

@LordGreybeardsChannelofWisdom 2 года назад

Good point!

@dhenschel4 3 года назад

Not sure how you didn't break that first threader. You never said what size it is, I'm guessing 1.25". I gave up on a 1" pipe iwth my $33 kit and bought a Ridgid and never looked back. They are the best. The $33 maybe could be used for plastic and copper pipe, but if the thread's aren't right I don't know what you could use it for. Also, I believe the test for proper depth is three turns by hand, not 4.5.

@LordGreybeardsChannelofWisdom 3 года назад

I used the 1 inch die in both tools. The cheap pipe threader's largest size is the 1 inch.

@bbdallas1 2 года назад

Thank you so much for great video

@LordGreybeardsChannelofWisdom 2 года назад

You are so welcome!

@cardierang6996 Год назад

Its easier to push down than pull up , and after the threads are caught keep oiling as much as you can. if on a budget put a hole in a water bottle and squeeze oil on while threading. but years ago after doing that twice i just got a used pony.

@nickbarnes2296 Год назад

You were supposed to pull the knob out in order to set the dye in the holder. That’s why it’s fighting you.

@TheNYgolfer Год назад

If you ever watch them thread a pipe at Lowes or Home Depot, their machines pump a constant stream of oil which not only lubricates but flushes out the shavings. The shavings are what kills the cutting blades and makes you work so hard. Don't clean the threads with newspaper. I was waiting for you to slice your fingers. Fortunately you didn't. Use a wire brush.

@1978garfield 4 месяца назад

It is a shame. They got about 90% of the way there and gave up. Just a little more fine tuning and finishing and they would have had it. I wonder if Ridgid inserts will fit it?

@TransformedByJesus 2 года назад

That set is now $52 on Amazon, likely increase in shipping from China

@LordGreybeardsChannelofWisdom 2 года назад

Yeah, that $33 a few years ago was a bargain. Everything is so much more. Thanks for the feedback.

@marcoantoniobritez877 2 года назад

haces mal la rosca se hace hacia abajo y no hacia arriba tienes que hacer presión hacia abajo no hacia arriba

@Robert-VandenAkker 2 года назад

Are you joking… ?

@abc-pn6yi 3 года назад

Man if I had to cut and thread that much pipe, I would go buy a power pony threader.. I use one everyday and they are so nice compared to this.. I didn't even know people did this by hand.. I am spoiled..

@LordGreybeardsChannelofWisdom 3 года назад

Lol. Doing a home project on a budget.