$4.35 Fix for Intel Thermal Problems | Thermalright 12th Gen Contact Frame

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We're benchmarking and reviewing the Thermalright 12th Gen CPU Contact Frame, which competes with Thermal Grizzly's $35 contact frame that we recently reviewed. Our viewers highly requested the Thermalright frame for review, so in this testing, we're evaluating the pressure performance and distribution of the mount, the thermals, and the build quality.
Watch our first contact frame review where we detailed the problem (and why these exist) here: • Investigating Intel's ...
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RELATED PRODUCTS
Thermal Grizzly Contact Frame on Amazon: geni.us/YTTkS
Thermalright Contact Frame on Amazon: geni.us/C3ujvgM
NOTE: You can also get the Thermalright frame very cheap from AliExpress, but we're not sure how reliable the shipping will be.
Competing (Alternative) 12th Gen Contact Frame on Amazon: geni.us/hqOs5BX
Arctic MX-4 Thermal Paste on Amazon: geni.us/k3kT6
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - $4.35 Contact Frame vs. $35 Thermal Grizzly
02:06 - What's in the Box
03:25 - Price vs. Thermal Grizzly's 12th Gen Contact Frame
04:11 - Installation Differences & Quality
05:45 - Why Thermal Grizzly is Expensive
07:08 - Manufacturing Quality
08:03 - Pressure Testing
09:45 - i7-12700 Pressure of Thermalright vs. Thermal Grizzly
10:43 - i9-12900KS Pressure Tests
11:25 - i9-12900 Pressure Tests
11:41 - Thermal Testing Methodology Notes
12:39 - Thermal Benchmarks for Intel Contact Frames
13:25 - Thoughts on Thermal & Pressure Results
14:45 - Mike Shows How to Install the Thermalright Frame
18:00 - IMPORTANT NOTES ON RESISTANCE
20:00 - Conclusion & Whether It's Worth It
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@GamersNexus Год назад

Watch our first contact frame review where we detailed the problem (and why these exist) here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ysb25vsNBQI.html The best way to support our work is through our store: store.gamersnexus.net/

@Noah-lj2sg Год назад

Already watched 😎

@EnigmaticGentleman Год назад

But when will you add the most intensive game ever made to your catalogue, the PC Port of Lanky Kong Commonwealth for Game Boy Color?

@obsey Год назад

Once Thermalright gets these frames onto amazon at a discount price they are going to sell a bazillion of these!

@slink_fpv4815 Год назад

Obviously the world knows it takes hours and hours to make these videos. Why do you have to mention it in every video? " omggggg it is SO hard making all these videos on time and calculating our record profit this year. please pander to us in the comments so we feel good tonight! "

@MrLince-hr4of Год назад

china is still copy everything they can🤣🤣🤣

@CadeCraze Год назад

Thank goodness there are ways we can fix the problems caused by these multi-billion dollar companies, heaven knows they can't afford this kind of extra cost.

@genericscottishchannel1603 Год назад

Companies being cringe as always

@Nesformers Год назад

Hey, dumb people will keep throwing money their way buying their half broken inneficient space heaters so as far as theyre concerned this is fine

@__aceofspades Год назад

The issue is with the cooler. The Arctic Freezer II that Steve is testing has a flat cold plate, CPU IHS are NEVER flat unless lapped. This isnt a new issue. Its why Noctua even proudly stated their coolers have convex plates, because they mount better to the concave IHS that CPUs have.

@Lishtenbird Год назад

As explained in the original video on the topic - it's a balance between making a foolproof solution for the vast majority of customers, a cheap solution for still a very large segment of budget customers, and thermal efficiency at the highest end.

@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489 Год назад

Always has been. Having multi-billion dollar doesn't magically make it possible. They did it first, to get the multi-billion. Get some ambition bro

@KenOtwell Год назад

Can't remember the last time something so simple could be so easy and cheap, and still have a more-than-trivial improvement.

@theredscourge Год назад

Insert your mom joke here

@Megalomaniakaal Год назад

Liquid metal for thermal compound? That is perhaps the only one I can think of.

@Rspsand07 Год назад

When I was in Spain recently, wine was 1 euro and rum 4 euros. Those improve your QOL in a more than trivial way for less

@benjaminlynch9958 Год назад

Duck tape.

@Silenthorror13 Год назад

@@Megalomaniakaal simple, huh?

@bradstewart8663 Год назад

I just installed a Thermalright on my 12700k because of this video and it brought my cpu temps down a good 8-10 degrees. Highly reccomended.

@HanmaHeiro 8 месяцев назад

I'm gonna do the same in a few weeks. Waiting on a thermal grizzly kryosheet to compare against too versus and Enermax liqmax III AIO and thermalright phantom spirit I have

@AleksCoreBY 7 месяцев назад

yeap I did the same and I clearly can tell 8-10C is not even exaggeration. Difference can be even more, and what's more important temperatures do not jump anymore

@RoyBrown777 5 месяцев назад

This reads like a fake ad.

@AleksCoreBY 5 месяцев назад

It is for sure lol, but it's reality! We also probably has to mention that our chipset is Z690, it may be that on Z790 there is no problem im not sure@@RoyBrown777Before getting my frame I also had experiements with thermal paste and I can tell using bad thermal paste also affect A LOT!

@bocahdongo7769 4 месяца назад

@@RoyBrown777what do you expect from Intel not using Xeon mounting anyway. LGA 1700 is literally much bigger than LGA 2066 Xeon

@bensides2206 Год назад

Incredible. My new 12700k build was pegging at 100c and throttling down during Cinebench full load and Intel's XTU benchmark. Got the thermalright contact frame from Amazon, installed it EXACTLY as shown in this video, put everything back together. When booting, for some reason I got the "new CPU installed", and took me to the bios, which I exited immediately, and it booted to desktop. The idle temp, previously at 30-32c, is now 25c. Under load, Cinebench and XTU topped out at 69c. I kid you not. It's my Christmas. May the Intel engineers who designed the default contact assembly/thing get coal in their stockings.

@bensides2206 Год назад

Oh, thanks Steve and Mike!

@sherifmorgan3302 Год назад

Same here with I9 13900k 👍

@NewageAMV Год назад

@@sherifmorgan3302 can we use this contact plate for 13th gen too?

@theitguy45 Год назад

@@NewageAMV of course

@robbob3717 Год назад

@@NewageAMV Its the same socket type so of course. It's just because they are cheap and mass produced that they all say 12th gen haha.

@concinnus Год назад

The dumbest part of this issue is that Intel could have fixed it for even less -- probably $1 more for a better ILM, since it would still be high-volume-production stamped steel. They could even spec it to the boardmakers for the Z690 only.

@MiGujack3 Год назад

Oddly enough they already had a decent ILM before, the ones with two levers.

@inqizzo Год назад

@@MiGujack3 yoo, i forgot that they actually made better ones

@inqizzo Год назад

And yea, thats a good point, on intel scale it would cost them tousands of dolars, but they could make it into a marketing thing like: intel on 150W runs cooler or amd or some bs

@concinnus Год назад

@@MiGujack3 Right, exactly.

@dexter2433 Год назад

Intel dose not make the motherboards from what I understand ///??

@nickeshchauhan5661 Год назад

Really enjoy seeing the other presenters in recent videos, it's nice to see the different personalities in the team!

@chrisohanlon69 Год назад

Especially ones with short hair.

@Kevin_the_Caveman Год назад

Mike is very charismatic

@trubblebubble1 Год назад

Hugely valuable vid, thanks. I installed a Thermalright frame and, though my temperatures dropped significantly, I also lost the use of SDRAM sockets 3 and 4. Tried all possible configs, it would only recognise slots 1 & 2, so I found Mike's walkthrough installation and it looks like I might have over-tighten the frame when I installed it (as he said, the pictures on the box are less than helpful), so I started again from scratch, tightening a quarter-turn at a time and not pushing it beyond the hard limit and jackpot! I now have my memory slots back! Thanks Mike!

@johniredale8914 10 месяцев назад

I had the very good fortune to come across this video and your thermal grizzly one about two weeks before my 12th gen stuff arrived. man am i glad i did! ordered the cheap one from amazon, followed mike's instructions and it all went off without a hitch. Mike was right you can totally feel when it bottoms out and you're done tightening. You guys always manage to have the info i need! keep doing the things!! :D

@snowhawk4049 Год назад

so Intel's next gen CPUs will be roughly 8° C cooler, good to know ahead of the marketing slides

@get-in-2-get-out774 Год назад

UnderRated comment

@veloxsouth Год назад

@@get-in-2-get-out774 totally agree

@eljoel89 Год назад

Actually, they'll make them 8°C hotter cause they know their customers will buy their own mounting rings. Then you get the same temps with higher power draw.

@GreatYamatanoOrochi Год назад

Oh man, I'm actually annoyed that you're most likely right

@ffwast Год назад

@@eljoel89 and rhen they'll say "see, it's faster!" just like they're adding more of low performance cores instead of high performance cores people actually want so they can say "see, more cores!"

@manaboosted Год назад

ever since i've discovered this channel, i've loved every upload no matter the length. Steve is such a great commentator and is very knowledgeable, could listen to him talk about computers for hours

@GamersNexus Год назад

Thank you for the kind words!

@lilxg21 Год назад

Agreed… doesn’t stretch irrelevant content like jaytwocentz in my opinion cause that guy can go on and on about something that can be explained simply with a few sentences. I still watch his videos though… just more selective what I watch however.

@manaboosted Год назад

@@lilxg21 I don't really enjoy much of jayz videos, can easily get any information he is giving out from a different creator in a much more concise method. And not much of a fan of the humor he has either

@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx Год назад

@@manaboosted Yeah on the technical side GN always wins they'll present you the thing as if you already have a very good grip on IT

@manaboosted Год назад

@@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx I thoroughly enjoy it.

@blockedpot Год назад

I have been using the Thermalright for a few weeks now. Lowered my temperatures by 8-10 degrees Celsius. I strongly recommend saving money and going for the Thermalright. Using this with a 12700K.

@Z34_TR Год назад

Just installed mine and I got identical results as you -8c to -10c across all cores. Running a 12700k with an Arctic LF 360 aio.

@blockedpot Год назад

@@Z34_TR Yup. I have the same AIO. LF2 360. Should have bought it when I bought the rig in the first place. I honestly did not even do the fastening very scientifically. Just eyeballed it.

@LennethValkyrieify Год назад

I ordered one for my 12700K as well, it's underperforming in Cinebench temp wise with a Arctic freezer 360. I thought at first that I didn't apply thermal paste properly, even though I usually just put a pea size in the middle or spread it(mostly for laptops)... so I checked after a few weeks of use and there was barely any paste on the middle of the IHS, kinda like on the pressure test from Steve. For anyone wondering, I used Hydronaut as I always do.

@blockedpot Год назад

@@LennethValkyrieify How were the results.

@LennethValkyrieify Год назад

@@blockedpot I installed it yesterday, honestly a bit disappointing in my case, maybe like 2C difference, though I noticed the random temp spikes to 50+ during normal use are almost non existent now.

@killer01ws6 Год назад

I really appreciate your team testing this, I wanted the TG one, but it had such a long lead time and I wanted it before a finished my build, so I got the TM one.. I did follow the same TG install process and put my own witness marks on it... Glad to see it seems to had been a good choice!

@Haetheii Год назад

"They have matched a far more expensive competitor on the market" I found this to be the case with thermal paste as well. Noctua NT-H2 performs identically (give or take 1% at best) to Kryonaut, but it's significantly cheaper. I usually buy medium-sized tubes that will last multiple installs because it has a strong shelf life, multiple years

@h1tzzYT Год назад

kryonaut is also massive PITA to spread on IHS. Tried warming it up before application, it helped a bit but it was still a struggle. After that i used mx-4 and temp diff were in variable tolerance, maybe 1-2c higher? Also not to mention the price difference. I still have a tube of nt-h1 from my nhd15 chromax cooler i will try it too when the time comes.

@ronnie3044 Год назад

Thats basically all thermal paste. I get MX4 for about $4 a tube and it performs basically just as well as NT-H2. Ive started even using the stock thermal paste that comes with products and noticed theres very minimal temp differences.

@fredocuomo5386 Год назад

kryonaut and kingpin kpx are meant for ln2 cooling, they dry out around 80c..if you're not extreme cooling youre not gonna see difference outside of testing variance...i use conductonaut and wipe around the die with clear nail polish on cpu and gpu..i also clean and re-apply it every 6 months...mx4 you can use once and it will last years..it can sit on the shelf for up to 8 yrs and still be useable

@StephenDeTomasi Год назад

Just wait till you learn about GD900 paste. Even better value

@SixStringViolence Год назад

@@StephenDeTomasi GD900 all the way. I use the 30g tubes. They cost just 3 - 4€ and performs better than MX4 and on par with Kryonaut.

@hamradi0 11 месяцев назад

I've installed three of these contact frames so far due to the recommendation of this video. Temps dropped 5-10 degrees in each. Thank you for providing the detailed install instructions as well, I refer to them each time I install one.

@Dooky1973 Год назад

I've just purchased and fitted one of these to my MSI Z690 TOMAHAWK motherboard and Intel 13700K CPU. It cost me 10 GBP from Amazon UK (which came direct from Thermalright). It was pretty easy to fit. Was a bit nervous about how much to tighten the screws and your fitting guide certainly helped, so thanks for that. I am now seeing a temperature drop of between 6c & 10c depending on what I'm doing. I am now getting around 70c running Cinebench (with my cooling running in extreme mode) where as before that was more like 80c. Overall I am really pleased with this product, especially for the price. I would certainly recommend this. Thanks for a great video! Cheers from the UK! ;o)

@tolpacourt 3 месяца назад

TOMAHAWK! Let's go!

@shawnmcquade246 Год назад

Actually, pretty sure Thermalright had this out months before TG did..

@wowdogeful Год назад

I love that you tell right in the beginning how much experience you have in testing that specific type of gear. You guys do your absolute best to be as transparent and objective as possible and acknowledge that, while they are rare, even someone with as much experience as you guys can still make mistakes every once in a while. Your professionalism and objectivity makes you easily the best computer hardware channel on RU-vid, keep up the amazing work!

@JustinCrediblename Год назад

Good to see Thermalright making something good again. Their Macho CPU cooler was one of the original huge coolers and seemed to have set the stage for the nh-d15, deepcool assassin III, and dark rock pro 4

@jeremytine 11 месяцев назад

my father is still rocking Macho on 3770k. That cooler exceeded expectations. I overbuilt it so even with no cleaning abuse it would work well and it has for over 11 years.

@JustinCrediblename 11 месяцев назад

@@jeremytine Exactly. I'm still using my macho Rev B on my AMD 3900x and it benchmarks quite well. You're totally right about it just tanking through neglect, too. hehe.

@ClassicalPan 8 месяцев назад

Some of their newer coolers are actually more effective than the D-15, which I didn't expect since the Noctua cooler costs 3x more and is the one we are most familiar with. I ordered the Phantom Spirit for my build.

@JustinCrediblename 8 месяцев назад

@@ClassicalPan heheh and if you want the best fan to go with it, it'll be almost the same price as the heatsink

@ClassicalPan 8 месяцев назад

@@JustinCrediblename Oh yeah, fans can be crazy expensive. But this cooler is one of the best performing air coolers available. Plus, I bought a Fractal Torrent, so my temps should be pretty good all around.

@heyitsrayrui Год назад

“Walking back the screws to not cross thread them” thank you!

@devsfan1830 Год назад

Harsh edges on the machining are clearly a nod to pc cases of old where a blood sacrifice to the computer was ensured while building one. 😁

@akadevvy Год назад

Thermalright has been killing it. Wish you'd take a look at their coolers they seem to be on par with top end air coolers while priced way cheaper.

@ganthrithor Год назад

Thermalright *is* a top-end cooler-- they pretty much invented the category. Literally every modern "high end air cooler" you see on the market is a clone of Thermalright's products from ~2000-something.

@n.erdbeer Год назад

@@ganthrithor indeed, thermalright is no new manufacturer, they make very decent coolers. My first PC had a "true spirit power 140" single tower cooler, which earned a lot top ratings in tests back then. They were best cooler manufacturer multiple years in a row

@t045tygh05t Год назад

@@ganthrithor Truth. The copper XP-120 was a fucking beast back in the day.

@PeteYagmin Год назад

Just found your channel thanks to Adam Savage's Tested channel posting this video on Facebook and I'm really enjoying your content!

@ericryan4330 Год назад

I was leaning toward Thermal Grizzly before watching this review. The main thing that swayed me toward the Thermalright was not the cost, but rather the mounting process being more straightforward (since I do not own a torque wrench), with no real trade-offs in performance.

@hadleys.4869 Год назад

I have the thermal Grizzly contact frame and it’s very difficult at times to gauge how much pressure you have on the board. I feel like I’ve got too much pressure on my new Asus ROG Maximus z790 Apex motherboard. And that it could be affecting my memory overclocking stability and frequency potential. So I just ordered the Thermalright LGA1700 contact frame since it has the thin rubber pads at each end to help disperse the pressure over a larger area and reduce the risk of causing memory stability issues. I should receive it tomorrow and I’ll take apart my Corsair h170i elite lcd 420mm AIO heatsink/pump and remove my thermal grizzly. The thermal Grizzly just seemed to get way too tight too quickly when screwing it down.

@shutitfukface Год назад

Any update on how it went? I just received my thermalright today but haven't installed it yet, anything I should be aware of?

@gianlucabing Год назад

@@hadleys.4869 Any update?

@hadleys.4869 Год назад

@@shutitfukface I installed my screws until it was snug and it felt I could go any further without pushing it. Everything seems good so far. Haven’t had any memory issues running my g skill. 7800mhz 32gb xmp kit at xmp mode. It was much easier to install as well than the thermal grizzly contact frame.

@hadleys.4869 Год назад

@@gianlucabing see my other reply below. Everything running great so far and it was much easier to install than the thermal grizzly.

@GCAT01Living Год назад

The "Thanks Steve." I'm dead! XD Really nice review as always. This is the kind of stuff I love. Comparing the same product at different price points and drilling down on any differences, why they exist, and what they mean for the consumer. You guys are awesome!

@ashamancito4630 Год назад

The amount of dedicated work you guys put in is just amazing.

@goobernoodles Год назад

Great info as always - I appreciate the work that goes into these videos!

@TheRealMrGordons Год назад

This was such an honest and refreshing review that approached the subject from several different directions.

@Zwank36 Год назад

I was utterly baffled that ThermalRight sorta disappeared into obscurity after they produced the XP-120 cooler in the early 2000's. They were the Noctua of their time.

@SteelSkin667 Год назад

Based on the time they fell into obscurity, I think it is actually Noctua that took the crown by beating them to the punch at delivering the best tower-style CPU coolers (at least at the time). It's really a shame, because they were untouchable for the longest time.

@ArahdunGaming Год назад

As far as I can tell, they still make some fairly good stuff, I personally have one of their air coolers in my PC, Its both quiet and cool, I reckon Noctua simply took over in terms of popularity because they simply were/are better overall

@simoSLJ89 Год назад

Me too! In 2012 when I assembled my first computer, I bought a ThermalRight Venomous X as a cooler, it was the best single tower!

@rudy_dstroys1821 Год назад

Eh, Their products aren't the best, at least their current line up but yes, I remember those fans back in the early 2000s and got great reviews.

@_thevaporz Год назад

The $45 Peerless Assassin 120 SE is only a couple degrees off Dark Rock Pro 4 and Noctua NH-D15 at full load 260W (*Hardware Canucks).

@angepano8591 Год назад

Great review! I completely would have bought the TG option but it was out of stock everywhere and well, I wanted to see if it worked for myself. So I did get the TR one and it was pretty simple and dropped my temps even a little better than I expected.

@DeSinc Год назад

I don't really know how these got thought up honestly when four washers under the official intel bracket is actually safer and easier to apply and gives the same results. I'd love if you showed the washer mod compared to these frames. It's really simple, four 1mm thick nylon washers under each corner of the official intel bracket, which has been shown to get the same thermal reduction as these brackets. The advantage of this method is the pressure is always totally even. Screwing the intel bracket down harder doesn't change how it's positioned on the board, the bracket always sits the same way on the board regardless of screw thread tightness, unlike this bracket design which entirely relies on the pressure being very even.

@Huakeen Год назад

Exploit master has spoken o7

@soulshot96 Год назад

I think Derbauer already went into why these frames are more advantageous vs the washer mod in a video on his channel.

@Simlife101 4 месяца назад

The washer mod can have the nylon washers wearing out and causing uneven distribution over time

@cyphre Год назад

I'm really hoping to see a future where motherboard manufacturers are introducing this sort of improved design on their own. Or at least include a kit for their higher end boards if there is some sort of Intel requirement to use the original ILM.

@SoWhat07 10 месяцев назад

There is a good examples. Like Epyc socket. For desktop manufacturing never going to happen. This is cheap. Even the LGA 1700 mainboard are so expensive. The cheap is desktop socket retention. This is garbage due to bending and degradation. For example bios error 15 in Gygabyte. This is error related to bending. It is very difficult to be simulate. After bending the problem is related to RAM speed. Small and slower ram sticks working. The fastest won't. Bios start cycle and restart without booting.

@bjn714 Год назад

Thermal Grizzly wasn't the first one to release this, Thermalright was. So it's disingenuous to say that this is "continuing what Thermal Grizzly started" when the Thermalright product was on the market months prior.

@rulik006 Год назад

Yes

@therealb888 Год назад

If you're new, Steve x Roman 😂. GN x der8aur. He's been shillong for him since ages.

@dac33nr58 Год назад

I agree, no need for Mercedes level snobbishness with price as long as it's good enough to give even pressure.

@Finsternis.. Год назад

@@dac33nr58 It's not so much about snobbishness as Germany actually having inklings of reasonable labor laws. They can't sell them at lower price while keeping a reasonable profit. (which doesn't mean you should spend 40$ instead of 5$ given the chance - producing low tech in a high tech country is just silly and borders at irresponsibility)

@dac33nr58 Год назад

@@Finsternis.. Your saying craftmanship is silly ? "producing low tech in a high tech country" I'm talking about how others perceive snobbishness, not necessarily Germans themselves.

@ecophreak1 Год назад

Reminiscent of the pre-heatspreader days using shims to prevent huge copper heatsinks from chipping the cpu die (coincidentally I had a thermalright 900u, half a kilo of solid copper)

@Cheeseypoofs85 Год назад

since this frame is metal and is touching the IHS, doesnt it technically create a larger contact surface for the cold plate? i would bet this contributes to at least 20% of the cooling increase

@frankmjr6571 6 месяцев назад

You know, that's a great point.

@bigbadspikey Год назад

Thermalright is a well known for great cooling. I've used the Ultra-120 Extreme back in 2006 and it was great. Kept my old Overclocked Conroe Core2duo really cool even without a fan.

@filiplaskovski9993 Год назад

Their thermal pads are pretty good too

@traindoctor Год назад

Good information. I'll always support companies like ThermalGrizzly for their desire to ensure their workers are well provided for. Price and quality don't always take priority over the ethics.

@georgetek Год назад

True but stock does.

@csi2448 Год назад

@@georgetek this x1000. I’m in the process of finishing my PC and I’ve been keeping an eye on stock as well as I can, and I’ve never found the TG in stock. So I wasn’t given a choice. I had to go with the Thermalright one because it was actually available to buy!

@xkm1948 Год назад

How do you know Thermalright is not treating its employees and contractors well? You have a very western biased "ethics"

@babablacksheep3950 Год назад

Good for you. For others who don't have much disposable income, the tears and sweat of Chinese slave labors are of little concern to them.

@WyattOShea Год назад

@@lugaidster Same here with the can't justify part. Here the thermalright is 1/3 the price of the grizzly one not including probably another 10-20 for shipping whereas the thermalright I can get on amazon (aus) with free shipping which ends up in the grizzly costing 4x as much money lol. It's just not worth it for the more expensive option to me. To be fair though I don't even have a cpu that could use it anyway (3700x) but I had to have a look after seeing your comment just to see the price difference in my country lol.

@SnowsterSC Год назад

For future content like this (even not more ILM replacements), it would be great to get torque figures from installs. Even if it’s just a ‘here’s what we got, ymmv’ kind of thing having a N*M number would be great. Good work as always!

@tep1003 Год назад

I am assuming there were no torque specs given, since it was mentioned that the instructions were pictures.

@TheDoomerBlox Год назад

@@tep1003 Yes, that's why it would be useful to the end-user that *the reviewer* provides that which the manufacturer decided you weren't worthy of being provided.

@motortiki Год назад

Coming from an optics background, I sympathize with this. But the issue is, such small screws have very low torque values, on the order of 0.8 nm maximum torque or less. And based upon the procedure they give here and in the other video, they are actually under-torquing the bolts to meet the cpu's pressure requirement. At these low Nm values, torque measurements just aren't useful: conventional tools can't reliably make such small measurements, and the unconventional ones that can are expensive and not really available to end users. For small hardware like this, the best ways of assembling is clocking the amount of turn via reference marks, like they do in the Thermal Grizzly video, or simply turning it until the frame makes contact with the motherboard, like they do in this video.

@hubermayer7551 Год назад

with the thermal right solution torque does not matter at all. As you just screw it down until the parts touch. tightening more doesn't significantly change the pressure on the CPU as any extra load is just between motherboard the the thermal right frame.Thermal rights solution depends on the tolerances of the motherboard, socket and CPU. I am not sure if they did tests with different motherboards. The more I am thinking about it the more I like the thermal right solution. It has some significant benefits. Depending on the manufacturing and that shouldn't be hard to get right it will orient the CPU parallel to the motherboard. This helps with the cooler as the cooler is also screwed parallel to the motherboard. The Thermal Grizly solution only adjusts for the same torque on all sides but that might lead to the planes of the motherboard and the CPU top not being parallel even if perfectly tightening the screws. And its very easy to not tighten them perfectly.

@mattl1807 Год назад

The difference in machine precision between TG and TR and the fact that they gave essentially the same results is a testament to the effectiveness of thermal paste in filling the gaps.

@marsfb88 Год назад

And Intel's own spec gives the LGA1700 socket about a whole millimeter of tolerance...tbf at that point Thermal Grizzly's 40um of tolerance seems like overengineering

@jlrebor2626 Год назад

tbf that means that the solution from tg its an overpriced one and doesnt need to be that good, like that thing is 4bucks, but thats the seller price, good knows how much they rlly cost to make

@noneofyourbusiness4294 Год назад

@@jlrebor2626 it was explained in the video where the price comes from. Producing in Germany isn't cost effective, which isn't a secret to begin with. Personally, I'd go for the TG, just because everyone in the line gets paid fairly due to law. I mean, when I'm building a 2k PC, I don't really care if one single thing costs $35 or $5, and, living in Germany, I can get one in a day, rather than relying on aliexpress etc to be somewhat quick. Oh, and of course, this should have been something Intel should have fixed, not the consumers/3rd party manufacturers

@Rawiioli Год назад

@@noneofyourbusiness4294 Thermalright via Amazon delivers within 24 hours. :)

@t045tygh05t Год назад

An item of German manufacture was over-engineered? 😧

@eskwadrat Год назад

Another excellent executed test with best engineering practices when applicable amd data to show results. Thank you.

@BRUXXUS Год назад

The content and information itself is as good as always, but I really have to say I'm enjoying the more slick production style you guys have been moving towards lately. Very clean and crisp, but also more friendly and inviting with more of the team being on camera. 😀

@charliemancuso5690 Год назад

Well done Steve. Love your channel. Full of useful content.

@concentricmachining4636 Год назад

Just a cool decade doing thermal work lol nice and left room at the top for improvements love you guys!

@dil6969 Год назад

This is genuinely very helpful. Currently running a 12700k with an NH-D15 and the thermals are decent, but I'd like to have a little more headroom and consistency between core temperatures. The thermal paste spread indicates the same uneven pressure you've observed. Gonna give the thermalright unit a go. It's sure as hell a lot cheaper than using a beefy aio.

@GregorysBrain Год назад

I've been using the Thermalright Contact Frame for several months now on both my 12900K and KS under LN2. I've had absolutely no issues thus far. Tonight I'll be putting my G.Skill Trident Z5s 6600CL34 to the test on the Z690 Dark K|NGP|N under LN2.

@silure9502 Год назад

What does your flexing has to do with the video?

@funnyfuel420 Год назад

@@silure9502 lmao

@BugattiBoy01 Год назад

@@silure9502 About the first 7 words

@TinchoX Год назад

Cool, cool.

@GregorysBrain Год назад

@@silure9502 how on earth is that a flex? 🤣 Steve literally stated that he wasn't sure how the contact frame would fair with memory overclocking. Last night I managed a solid 7200 32-39-39-28 2T, which simply isn't possible with the stock ILM. I had nothing but issues with memory training before I switched to the Thermalright Contact Frame.

@ArmadaOne Год назад

I really like how you show how to properly mount these frames in your videos since most testers simply wouldn't bother with that and just give the results to make the video short. You always explain exactly what you are doing and how you do it in every test and really dive deep into what the results shown in the test actually mean which is great. This is exactly why I love your videos and why I'm subscribed and have notifications turned on so I immediately notice when I new video is posted when I open RU-vid in my browser which is several times a day.

@ThumpingThromnambular Год назад

The installation of the frame is so satisfying just to hear about. I'm not usually conscious of how one can deal with the impreciciseness when installing hardware like a CPU. Really looking forward to installing this.

@brandoncarr441 Год назад

Really good to see that you guys are non-biased! Great review, coming back for more.

@peterhenry2240 Год назад

10C is a gamechanging decrease in temps. It can be the difference that allows the 12900k to be run at full load on air, in warm climates without throttling.

@John__K Год назад

I would insta-buy one of these. My only concern is how much is the risk of damaging the board from the frame pressure against it.

@Malc180s Год назад

It's pretty much irrelevant. If you're in a hotter climate you'll obviously have to work harder to cool it. Meh. Why would I want to pay more to help people living in warm humid climates? Fuck em.

@xblur17 Год назад

@@Malc180s What nonsense are you talking about? Are you ok in the head?

@Capnsensible80 Год назад

@@Malc180s tf are you talking about? Then just don't buy it, you're not paying more unless you CHOOSE to, and you choosing to or not has 0 impact on other consumers 🤡

@John__K Год назад

@@xblur17 I think he means for the possibility that mobo companies to include this frame as pre-installed. But as Steve says it literally costs a couple of bucks to make it. Not sure why is he so mad about it.

@davidlong1786 Год назад

The "just enough" thermal paste from Thermalright is also how they do it with their Peerless Assassin 120 CPU air cooler. I thought tube was full but like shown, they give you just enough for one application on the CPU so you better not experiment thinking you can redo if you mess up. Thankfully I was able to make the traditional X-pattern right as the plunger hit bottom.

@matthewmartinez8050 Год назад

What an informative video - thank you

@da1geek534 Год назад

No surprise, but like the rest of your videos this was incredibly informative. As someone who spent a ton of time and money to get the performance/temperature balance of the 12900k under wraps, this will be super helpful. Thanks Steve and crew!

@Jesus-ps4db Год назад

Can u help me bro

@jean-paulpitman2172 Год назад

Wow, impressive results for a couple of bucks. I like the PCB contact feedback for easy consistant install. Great product comparison.

@underdog9785 Год назад

Always figured $35 was too much for something so simple. Thanks for this.

@1pcfred Год назад

You'd be surprised just how much precision costs.

@MaxMichel89 Год назад

The huge drop in temperatures, you otherwise only get with custom watercooling are worth it. Also maybe thermal Grizzly was copied by thermalright. (But i dont know that for Sure). If you really Care about temps and already use custom watercooling 35$ are not the Main costs....

@ValentineC137 Год назад

@@MaxMichel89 If this is thermalright copying thermal grizzly, then all 120mm tower coolers must have copied eachother lol

@iRaised95 10 месяцев назад

I’m a cnc machinist I don’t think you understand what is Precision and what can cost The lower you go on the scale the more expensive it is Plus they designed the product and make it in house in Germany, so ofc it will be more expensive Plus maintaining 0,04mm across all their frames it’s no joke Oh but why? It’s a thin part open on the middle the thinner you go and all open will bow more So maintaining 0,04mm costs money and time Doesn’t mean the thermalright it’s not good but the tolerances could be more open plus it’s produced somewhere to be cost effective

@arturskoczynski4825 5 месяцев назад

I just installed thermalight frame on 14900KF with Noctua NH-D15, thank you guys for this installation guide as it's very helpful and after watching it, installation process was so easy :) Temperature drop was not so drastically but noticeable. in benchmark I've got higher score, I will still hit 100 degrees with stress test but in games I can see some improvement (5-8 degrees lower) again thanks Steve and Mike for this video

@kimborch8547 Год назад

Total height variance may not change the mounting pressure. It is the height from the bottom of the frame and up to the bottom of the hole where the screws are located that matters. You could even have 10 identical height frames, but have 10 different mounting pressures depending on how precise the holes are made.

@obsey Год назад

Once Thermalright gets these frames onto amazon at a discount price they are going to sell a bazillion of these!

@PabzRoz Год назад

I ordered mine off Ebay for $12 and they had free 4 day shipping lol. The one on amazon at the time had 2 week prime shipping and was like $17 I think lol I wasn't beat. This thing is legit though. Been super happy with it. Temps dropped an average of 6C on my 12700K. Zero issues installing.

@jhowle9475 Год назад

“Thanks Steve” for making this video. I own a few of these thermalright frames and they work really well which you made very clear. Versus the thermal grizzly one at $35 is a terrible dollar per degree saving value.

@DuBstep115 Год назад

I would gladly pay 50 bucks to magically drop my cpu temps 10c

@rflair Год назад

@@DuBstep115 Instead of $5 to do the same, lol.

@PabzRoz Год назад

Yeah I got a thermalright frame for my 12700K and dropped my temps by 5c. My previous memory OC is still stable as well. Couldn't justify buying the TG frame at that ridiculous price. Especially when you can't even buy one anyway. The few places that sold em were all outa stock.

@zac2384 Год назад

@@PabzRoz you can't justify a $15 difference with a $400 CPU on a possibility thousand plus dollar machine?

@PabzRoz Год назад

@@zac2384 What..? Of course not? Why would I throw away $15 on a product when I can get basically the same exact product cheaper? What you said literally makes no sense.

@XenonFenix Год назад

As far as I remember, I saw news on the TR frame announced first before I saw anything on the TG frame. Looking it up, the TR frame was announced on April 21st, while the TG frame was on the April 24th (video on Derbauer's RU-vid channel). So you cant really say one company copied another. I do prefer the simplistic look of the TG frame but I bought the TR frame due to availability and pricing. Got it on Aliexpress for $9CAD and it took less than a month to arrive. I just tighten the screws a few turns at a time in opposite corners until I felt a "stop". I didn't do anything fancy with 90° turns and such. The frame gave me a -8°C drop when testing with Cinebench R23. I use an Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420mm. Edit: I used the frame for my 12900k.

@kurosumomo Год назад

Through history, plenty of manufacturers copied Thermalright, so this wouldn't be a first.

@reubenmorris487 3 месяца назад

Recently installed one of these contact frames onto my MSI LGA1700 board. Didn't even think to pull out my precision measurement tools... Thanks for the heads up.

@BenWillock Год назад

"Thanks Steve" will never get old. Just like "Out of the box thermals!".

@MrMagichobo21 Год назад

It would be cool if Buildzoid did a video going into more detail about the memory overclocking differences between the frames

@Lazarosaliths Год назад

Amazing to see other GN members on screen!!! Thanks Steve. Now back to you Steve

@oktc68 10 месяцев назад

Thank Steve & Mike for this assessment and installation guide. I initially saw the TG option but after seeing this I figured that the Thermalright solution might have a slight edge. (Sorry Debauer, I'll still be using your excellent Kryonaut paste tho') I assume these are still relevant with 13th Gen specially if using a Z690 mobo? Installation guide was first class.

@knightsljx Год назад

based on articles on Toms Hardware and FPS Review, TR's plate came to market in April 2022, earlier than TG's plate that only came out ~May. They were likely developed in parallel. I would like to see Gamer Nexus make this distinction, and not have viewers believe TR's product is a clone. It is not

@Zanpaa Год назад

They don't suggest it's a clone at any point, neither do they talk about release dates.

@5federline Год назад

Actually it was in my country market since last year. They fulfill asian market first before to other region. It's like Lian Li O11D case & Strimer. You can find a lot of brands that make similar kind of products like XPG, Phanteks, etc but only Lian Li got the spotlight. It's not been patented by the 1st manufacturer i think, so everybody can manufacture or design the similar product with some modification & put their own brand name.

@mjc0961 Год назад

Can you provide a timestamp to when in the video that GN said anything that would lead viewers to believe TR's product is a clone? SPOILER: You can't, because they didn't.

@miladesn Год назад

Its not even a clone. They are clearly different if you see mike's take.

@rulik006 Год назад

True

@MuckyxD Год назад

YES!!!!! I was waiting for this comparison... I actually have the Thermalright one on my i5 12400F OC'ed with a ROG B660 board, and also on a 12900K, and it has been working great...

@snaplash Год назад

I prefer the bottoming install for the thermalright frame as well. TG's 1/4 turn spec is awfully close to not compressing the pins past intel's .2mm contact height variance. (depending on screw thread pitch) If you have a couple pins sitting .2mm low, and you only compress them .19mm, you may end up with marginal or no contact on the low pins. I'm planning a new build, and will definitely use this frame.

@StormyPrepper Год назад

Thanks for this review. I had to buy this frame because the TG frame was out of stock on most sites, as of 08.12.2022, and the ones on Amazon are selling at $60.00. The Thermalright’s are around $15.00, so big difference here.

@chronicalcultivation Год назад

I have the thermalright AM4 retention bracket, under one of their PA120 coolers and must say, they're a solid company for how budget friendly they are

@MetalGeek464 Год назад

Same here and agreed. I also have 4 TR fans in my case. No regrets at all.

@Paul_Sleeping Год назад

They were a great cooling company. The Noctua before the real Noctua took it even further in engineering. Then AIOs almost erased them from existence and Noctua came along. Glad to see them back on the map. The recent cooler review that included one from TR even performed greatly in the rated thermal power range. Hope they will continue to do well.

@PabzRoz Год назад

Dude the PA120 is the best air cooler on the market right now hands down. Zero competition not even close. I bought one for my dads rig which has a 12600K. Literally has NH-D15 like performance at only $37 on amazon. Idk how Steve hasn't reviewed it yet. It drastically undercuts every cooler on the market while offering nearly identical thermals and quality. Not to mention it looks dope lol. Only difference is the fans are a bit louder but I can live with that for the price. I recommend it to everyone lol.

@MetalGeek464 Год назад

@@PabzRoz This.. My PA120 stomps on the Freezer 34 eSports DUO it replaced in thermals, noise and price.

@PabzRoz Год назад

@@MetalGeek464 Oh yeah of course lol it's not even a comparison. Blows it outa the water. And I see people all the time still buying coolers like that and the Scythe coolers and I'm like damn bro if only people knew! There's just nothing on the market right now that comes close to it's value. We need more RU-vidrs to talk about it lol It boomed after Hardware Canucks reviewed it but that's about it. It's a "if you know you know" thing lol.

@PaulieDC Год назад

I used the Thermalright on my MSI Z790 Carbon WiFi with the i9-13900KF and the Noctua NH-D15 cromax and it works superbly. I first bought the Thermal Grizzly but had to return it... for the thick MSI Carbon WiFi, the screws were too short, I needed the Thermal Grizzly to have slightly deeper countersinks. Thermalright works great!

@novrain62 8 месяцев назад

Love the tutorial! Thank you

@valismind Год назад

I got mine from Amazon for $19.99 CAD (and it came with thermal paste). I paired it with the NZXT Z73 360MM AIO, and actually used the paste that came with the bracket. It works amazing on the i9 12900KS, 25C when idle, 48C when in game, and the highest I got it was 78C on cinebench!

@HunterVaughanMusic Год назад

What was your application method for the thermal paste?

@elmervelazquez3549 5 месяцев назад

Do you live on antartica?

@dozerhernandez6183 Год назад

Hey Steve do you remember the thermal right product called "flower"? I was wondering if that would ever get tested, its amazing looking. I remember they also used to make unique ram coolers too.

@hectords164 9 месяцев назад

This solved my 13th gen thermal mystery, thank you. I had purchased a new cooler and was skeptical because my temps were all over the place. I was going from 45-70c randomly at idle with a new AIO. Bought this frame after being convinced, followed the instructions and voila. I have yet to go over 50c in any game and my idle temps stay at a cool 31-34c

@Mreticket1 Год назад

I have the TG on my i9, the info on how to set it was extremely good, and it seems to work... Temps seem to be consistent and I have had no issues so far...

@Shonkuk1 Год назад

The thermalright frame came out ages before the tg one like a good 6 weeks + e.g. derbauer seen the tg frame and made a clone

@The_ViciousOne Год назад

I'm kind of surprised... Thermalright isn't exactly an unknown manufacturer (at least in Europe), especially when it comes to CPU heatsinks. When I started building computers in the early 2000's they were one of the top dogs for CPU, GPU, chipset and VRM heatsinks... 🤔

@ClassicalPan 8 месяцев назад

I bought a Thermalright cooler for my new build. I initially thought I'd get the Noctua tower that everyone has, but at 1/3rd the price and with better thermal results, Thermalright got my money. And based on GN's testing of these frames, I'd choose Thermalright again. Very impressive stuff.

@shinefake48 6 месяцев назад

apparently thermalright is like one of the OG pc cooling product producers, which I always thought it was some unknown brand until recently

@Yuenix Год назад

STEVE AND MIKE AND THE GAMERS NEXUS TEAM THANK YOU!! Thank you guys so much 😊😁

@neralem Месяц назад

Nice, thanks! Just ordered the Thermal Grizzly frame. Impressive that these can lower the temp up to 7°C

@kaiserped Год назад

Thermalright has some CPU coolers that I used and like it. Glad to hear they are still doing good.

@Sunlight91 Год назад

Would be interesting to see how the temps are for someone using significantly less care. ( starting 360 degree turns instead of 90)

@ArmadaOne Год назад

Yes, I would like to see that too. Lets say you have no idea how to install one of these and the manual (in the case of the Thermalright one) doesn't offer you proper information or you're just one of those people who thinks "Hey how hard can it be to mount this, it's just 4 screws" it would be interesting to see how much difference a proper install and a "noob" install would make.

@Ben-ld1qi Год назад

My first installment I did a yolo installment where I stopped when I felt it was having to use significantly more force, it's very noticeable...Got a small decrease of a few temps. My 2nd installment I decided to all the way but without using any excessive force and see what happens and it didn't want to boot lulz. Now I'm using the 1mm washer method and recorded all my core temps with specific voltages over a 1 hour Cinebench run. I plan on trying the Thermalright bracket again for a more accurate comparison now that I wrote down all the core temps. Edit: For the heck of it I think I might also try to install the bracket on top of the 1mm nylon washers as well lol

@Kepe Год назад

Since the Thermalright ILM makes contact with the motherboard, I don't think it should make any difference whether you do 90 degree turns or 360 degree turns as long as each screw is at about the same torque at the end of your installment process. It's going to tighten down as far as it can go at all corners anyways. Of course if you tighten down one screw completely before tightening the others at all, something bad or weird could happen. I think the TR solution is more fool-proof than the TG one since you can't really over-tighten it unless you screw it down so tight you strip the threads or something like that..

@PinkLyfe69 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for the vid guys, this paired with a new aio lowered my temps by half lol

@Apollopayne25 4 месяца назад

Thank you for great video. Went for a thermalright one. Temps dropped by 8-10 degrees. Only just moved my server back to Intel. Couldn’t believe the tension on lever arm on original bracket

@jthiel0711 Год назад

So, they just released one for AM5. I wonder if you can test that one too? And if it is even needed?

@uncorrupted7832 Год назад

I've been wondering the same, do temperature stay the same or there is increase or decrease of the temperatures?

@yanagida_01 Год назад

@@uncorrupted7832 most likely wouldn't make a difference since the AM5 CPUs are still square. the only reason there are cpu frames for AM5 is to stop thermal paste on getting into those gaps in the IHS

@uncorrupted7832 Год назад

@@yanagida_01 yeah, I bought it for that reason, and to just add one more thing into my building addiction lol!

@c0rnd0g_19 Год назад

After testing my new i5-12400 system to make sure everything worked properly, I took it back apart and installed a frame. Definitely seeing lower temps so I can attest to its effectiveness as you proved. It really makes me want to take it back apart and lap the CPU (remembering the old AMD Duron days)...

@Apollopayne25 4 месяца назад

Are you using stock Intel cooler? I just ordered a TR one

@c0rnd0g_19 4 месяца назад

@@Apollopayne25 No, I've got a tower cooler on it (don't remember the brand)...

@ZZstaff Год назад

Good information, thank you very much.

@warlikka7571 Год назад

Hi Gamers Nexus, I discover your channel and I do appreciate the scientific method you are using. So you owned a new subscriber ^^

@Creating_Space Год назад

thank you for showing this option! thermalright seems to be in need of some marketing, they've always made good products in my experience, back to the early 2000s.

@IK4MS Год назад

I have no idea what's going on over at Thermalright. They have *eleven* different single tower designs currently on the market, and *five* dual tower designs, all of which have multiple variations currently available. None of their products seem to have a semblance of naming convention. I mean what the fuck does "Ultra120EX REV.4 WHITE" even mean? It's not like there was a rev.1/2/3, only an "Ultra-120 eXtreme rev.C". And how do I even know how it compares to the "Venomous Plus"? They both have the same heatpipe setup and similar dimensions... And that's coming from someone who's followed them for a good decade. Anyone else would have *no* idea where those names even come from.

@RafitoOoO Год назад

@@IK4MS yeah, their products and naming schemes make it seems someone comes to the office and says "good news everyone, I designed a new cooler" and everybody is like "aight let's manufacture it"

@iblizt316 Год назад

@@IK4MS AFAICT Ultra 120 Ex rev.4 is an evolution of their original TRUE/TRUX line. While Venomous Plus is an evolution of Venomous X. Their main difference is Venomous have "pressure bracket", basically it allows you to put more pressure (DANGEROUSLY more) at the center. They also have different fin design, not sure how much it mattered though. I used Venomous-X in my X58 build way back in 2010/11 and I found that if I over tightened the "pressure bracket" then Windows only detected 2 sticks of ram out of 3 installed. Overall still a great product but not as great user experience as what you get from Noctua. Btw, back then Thermalright were not as cheap, in fact I believe they were a premium brand. Also their heatsink did not come bundled with a single fan (they didnt offer fan), while Noctua was the opposite (offered premium fan only and not heatsink/fan). So I used to pair Thermalright heatsinks with Noctua high pressure fans during wolfdale to gulftown era.

@forrest225 Год назад

Need to do a custom copper water block with clear plastic to show off the sweet color. Worth it.

@VikasGupta-bx5qv Год назад

I went with the Thermalright which I purchased after trying to undervolt my 12700K but running into blue screen issues. Without the undervolt I was seeing immediate +100C temps when testing with Cinebench R23. I removed and repasted the cooler to ensure the contact was good. After installing the Thermalrite my temps are down to 90C 10 minutes into the same run. Its been 2 months since I installed it and I have not had a single blue screen. Thanks for posting this video as it convinced me to give the Thermalright a try and ultimately saved me 20 USD or so.

@vipeshadowv2571 5 месяцев назад

I was concerned about the installation process but this video saved my worries saving it to watch when I build my PC later !!

@Karagoth444 Год назад

I would be curious to see the impact of the frame(s) on coolers with different levels of contact. It improves greatly when the contact plate is excellent, but what happens when it's not? In ITX builds you can't always get the best after all.

@andersjjensen Год назад

That's pretty much impossible to say. If a janky cooler happens to be out of whack in a way that conforms with how the ILM deforms the IHS then the net result is going to be excellent. If it happens to be skewed in the opposite direction then the ILM is going to perform worse than the brackets, because they at least counter some the total distortion. That being said, if you want improve a shoddy cooler it's fairly easy: 1) Go to an arts-and-crafts store and buy a piece of glass (or a window repair shop if you have one locally). It should be at least 8x8" (20x20cm) 2) Put a single drop of water on one side and notice how it looks. Flip it and do the same on the other side. The side where the drop seems to bulge the most is the more uneven side (the other side was against the "table" when the glass was rolled out). 3) Get some wet sanding paper in grits 250, 500 and 1000. 4) Tape the grit 250 to the good side of the glass, lubricate liberally with WD40 (or a cheap knock-off) and start lapping the contact surface by *lightly* sliding it over the sand paper in as big of an 8-shape as the glass/paper allows. Do not push hard on it. That will cause uneven sanding at the sides. Just let it glide. And apply more WD40 frequently. It should feel kinda slimy at all times going forth. 5) Proceed to grit 500 once you can visually tell that the grit 250 scratch pattern looks perfectly uniform. 6) Proceed to grit 1000 once the grit 500 has completely removed all the deeper grit 250 scratches. Continue until you cant see grit 500 scratches. 7) Rinse with dish soap and water when done. 8) Enjoy that you now have a VERY flat cheap cooler. Window pane glass happens to be about as flat as a B grade surface plate in a machinist shop. So way flatter than you strictly speaking need for this application, but it's the cheapest option that happen to be "proper flat". The above method takes about 90 minutes or so, so put on an action movie (boring movies reduce lapping speed!) and get cracking. I did this a lot back in the day when I still bothered overclocking. I sometimes did it to my CPU's IHS too. The results were always tangible.

@killerrf Год назад

With Thermalright I noticed you hit a wall on mounting it also. Nice to have to bottom to me…by far way more user friendly. Honestly I can’t see how you can screw up with the thermalright bracket.

@amdguru34 Год назад

Thank you! This video was very useful to me as I bought my son a 12900k. I decided to go with the TG frame since I use TG Kryonaut. Thanks again!!

@vladislavkaras491 4 месяца назад

Thanks for the information!

@gabrielecarbone8235 Год назад

The mounting instructions are so good and well made, just as expected from your channel

@googleone5867 Год назад

I’m blown away from the temperature reduction. I can not understand how a heat interface so far from the core can be this bad.

@Styphoryte Год назад

Much love for this video, I have a i5-12600K and I was having idling temps going as far up as 40-58 sometimes down to an average of 40-45 degrees so at least my temps aren't fluctuating like crazy anymore. I was thinking of switching to an AIO cooler but I don't see the need because all I do is game and watch TV on my PC anyways... Again thank you! Never realized this was such a problem with Intel's chips.

@GnatGoSplat Год назад

Great to know the Thermalright is a viable budget option. Now all I wonder is if there's any benefit to a frame at all if we're using a cooler with a convex cold plate (i.e. Asetek) as opposed to a flat one.