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@cuongle11274
@cuongle11274 3 года назад
I am a 13-year-old that has watched almost every single one of your videos. You have taught me so much keep doing what you do
@kaitanaka3468
@kaitanaka3468 3 года назад
@tony Castillo I’m interested in doing so. Why is it a bad idea?
@Trentonborr
@Trentonborr 3 года назад
@@kaitanaka3468 because if you do it wrong it’s very dangerous and expensive
@fomoco300k
@fomoco300k 3 года назад
Tony Castillo, my 12 & 14 year old are working beside me on a regular basis. Somebody’s got to teach them, and it’s my job to do that. (In my opinion) Better advice would be don’t try it alone until your absolutely confident in your skills.
@laurentiuslafoca
@laurentiuslafoca 3 года назад
Your next job is a 50Amps electrical installation- YOU CAN DO IT!!!!!- WRANGLERSTAR TAUGHT YOU!!!! GO GO GO
@normmuelleman2570
@normmuelleman2570 3 года назад
@PracticalTech why? He is using sound code. And he prefeces it with that he ia not licensed, and to double check with local codes. I wired up some switches in my house and they work just fine...when I kick them ;)
@Tkfl567
@Tkfl567 3 года назад
My dad used to say " learn from other's mistakes ". Thanks for sharing yours. Awesome video, as usual.
@muffins12313
@muffins12313 3 года назад
What I learned from this video is that electricians make more than me.
@CrypidLore
@CrypidLore 3 года назад
And plumbers make more than electricians, there's a hierarchy out there.
@smobro
@smobro 3 года назад
@@CrypidLore I've never seen that to be the case.
@ryangrissom3532
@ryangrissom3532 3 года назад
@@smobro I've noticed it depends on the area and weather you do service calls over new construction
@danichicago9140
@danichicago9140 3 года назад
@@CrypidLore plumbers hourly generally is higher. Total package IBEW Wiremen generally is higher. There is also generally more man hours in electrical work on most projects than plumbing. Being plumbing and pipe fitting are separate trades. Side jobs are plentiful in both trades.
@creamysbrianna
@creamysbrianna 3 года назад
@@danichicago9140 Much of that depends upon which route a plumber or electrician goes. If an electrician goes industrial route there is potential to make a lot more. Especially if you get into installs and maintenance of automation equipment. Or switchboard repair and maintenance. Same with plumbers if they go industrial and automation more money.
@ry2456
@ry2456 3 года назад
As an electrician myself I say good job Cody. Good instruction and camera angles. A few notes to consider for everybody. There is no nuetral(white). There is a green ground in its place that goes on the bar in the panel where the other grounds are going. Sometimes this is the same bar as the white neutrals and sometimes it’s a separate ground only bar. MC(metal clad cable) is a preassembled cable, meaning it has wires pre installed. So you actually had 1/2” flexible metal conduit. To be code it needs to be fastened with a strap to the wall within 12” of each termination into a box or panel, and at intervals within 4.5’ between these terminations. In that conduit you could use #8 thhn wire but, in nmb cable use #6. Up sizing wire is not a bad idea though on the welder. Otherwise spot on. Safety thoughts I highly recommend to viewers. Have good dependable battery lighting going first. Then turn off the main breaker with the panel cover still on. Wear gloves, preferably rubberized. Now carefully remove the cover. You can hold the cover by the top of the open door as you remove the last screw. I like a cordless drill for all the screw activities for this entire task. If a screw drops to the floor just forget about it until the cover is safely off. When install is complete, resecure the cover and all covers over any exposed wire before turning on the breakers. Even stand to the side of the panel when resetting the breakers if desired. Final note is to remember that even with the main breaker off the wire feeding the main still is energized I don’t nick it or touch the exposed terminals of that breaker. This is not “difficult” but please be safe and take your time.
@ry2456
@ry2456 3 года назад
@@TheRealTonyCastillo Point taken. I guess I was just trying too hard to be positive. Was hard to see the breaker on my phone.
@djscrizzle
@djscrizzle 2 года назад
Only thing to add, is for 6awg wire, you can use a 10 AWG ground, per NEC table 250.122, sizing of equipment ground conductors.
@BatGS
@BatGS 2 года назад
Greetings: Good reply.
@Ritalie
@Ritalie 2 года назад
Good notes from RY. Also, make sure you DO NOT use aluminum wire, unless absolutely necessary. The cost savings isn't worth the risk of using it. For main feeders, it will work fine, provided you use the proper torque on the screws in the panel and some de-ox compound. You actually have to check aluminum wires and re-torque them periodically, especially if they get warm. But for a supplemental circuit, copper is the safest wire. Copper rust is conductive. When copper corrodes, it still works just fine and copper also does not expand dramatically when it gets warm. Aluminum expands a lot more than copper, meaning it will get loose over time, as it goes through heat cycles during use of 50 amp devices, heaters, welders, motors, etc. And the final thing, and WORST thing ever, is that aluminum corrodes and turns into "aluminum oxide" which is sand paper. The aluminum wires turn into sand paper on the surface, when they corrode. Obviously sand paper is not a good conductor of electricity, it's more like glass than metal. Aluminum oxide only flows electric current in one direction, so it won't allow AC power to flow back and forth. Aluminum oxide could work fine for some DC applications, even with severe corrosion - but NEVER with AC. You can test this yourself. Take 2 aluminum plates, and hook them 120 volts (or 220 volts) and then mix up some distilled water with a scoop of Borax in it. Now stick the plates in the Borax distilled water mix, and then plug the plates straight into the wall outlet, FULL VOLTAGE. There will be ZERO CONDUCTIVITY, and ZERO current across the plates. The Borax accelerates the corrosion on the aluminum, forming an aluminum oxide layer, which blocks AC power.
@kayakuprising5914
@kayakuprising5914 Год назад
Thank you Ry. I'm a bit confused though when you say there is no white, it is green. Are you just saying that Cody should have purchased a green instead of white?
@ShaneZettelmier
@ShaneZettelmier 3 года назад
I did the same thing, I put an outlet right inside my garage and I also made a 40 foot extension cord because my garage was too full to really weld in without pulling stuff out so I could get to the other side of the garage or out in the driveway or under my carport with it. Pretty much exactly The set up you made and I absolutely loved it. When I moved I brought the extension with me and still have it, and I chose the same plug like you did, it’s just much simpler than trying to deal with all the ridiculous plug options. Lol I just asked an electrician what gauge wire I would need and they had it at my local building supply store, it was a little expensive but worth every penny in the end.
@shakedgabriel9807
@shakedgabriel9807 3 года назад
Can we all take a moment to appreciate the loctite animation in the end?
@DennisTotman
@DennisTotman 2 года назад
I wondered what the heck that was…
@peteratos660
@peteratos660 3 года назад
The image is really excellent. I like that even though I’ve wired tons of these types of power supplies, I still enjoyed watching you do it. Your so right twist locks were invented in a hot and dark place.
@om617yota8
@om617yota8 3 года назад
Thanks Cody. Wired up my shop welder plug years ago, but I do indeed find being able to use my welder in my shop and wheel it anywhere in the building entertaining.
@GadgetAddict
@GadgetAddict 3 года назад
A lot of people would edit out their mistakes. But keeping them in will let us know what to watch out for 👍
@sirpainter1
@sirpainter1 3 года назад
For Sure. I've learned much from my own mistakes. Evolution!
@laurentiuslafoca
@laurentiuslafoca 3 года назад
@@sirpainter1 You try that mistake with a live 50amp -good luck
@sirpainter1
@sirpainter1 3 года назад
@@laurentiuslafoca Ha ha, I don't mess with things that can kill me. I have friends that are qualified.
@PortersMob
@PortersMob 3 года назад
If he edits out all his mistakes doing electrical. He wouldn't have a video left to post...
@leytonhetland9311
@leytonhetland9311 3 года назад
I was laughing so hard at the end of the video where he put antlers on the loctite
@warrenmichael918
@warrenmichael918 3 года назад
His troll game is on point!! LOL
@GremlinsVillage
@GremlinsVillage 3 года назад
I don't know if it was intentional but antlers - 243?
@ravenleatherdesign7470
@ravenleatherdesign7470 3 года назад
@@GremlinsVillage just realized that lmao I hunt with a 243 aswell
@moweber
@moweber 3 года назад
It's great to see how authentic the folksiness has gotten over the years. Keep livin' the the good life!👍
@cbigg81
@cbigg81 3 года назад
I'm sooo glad the loctite is back. One of the best things in 2020! Thanks for the content Mr. W!
@Moccy.
@Moccy. 3 года назад
My 2c For 50A outlets, there doesn't seem to be much commonly available for the twist lock gear, but for 30A and below, the 3-pin dryer-type plug is a step backward - better off with 4-pin (2 hots, neutral, ground) NEMA twist lock gear. That way, you can plug in (and quickly! - removing the dryer type plugs is hard) any equipment you like into it that runs 120, 240, 240 + neutral, etc. Nag: Also as many others have pointed out, your need at minimum to hook up what is functioning as your ground wire to the correct ground bus, and either tape it with green tape on either end to indicate that it it's purpose, or replace the line with green sheathed wire.
@Shaclevy
@Shaclevy 3 года назад
As my father says “you never stop making mistakes, a wise man always learns from them”
@MiA-in5ph
@MiA-in5ph 3 года назад
Only a fool know best there are always other ways that could be better or have a better application in a different circumstance
@smartcookie3500
@smartcookie3500 3 года назад
A smart man learns from his mistakes, a wise man learns from others mistakes. Learn from this guy.
@laurentiuslafoca
@laurentiuslafoca 3 года назад
@@smartcookie3500 with 50amps?
@kjrehberg
@kjrehberg 3 года назад
I don't think one can learn from a mistake that kills himself.
@robertharcourt7650
@robertharcourt7650 3 года назад
Thanks Cody for removing obstacles for your loyal viewers. Thanks also for taking one for the team ;)I
@brianahern100
@brianahern100 3 года назад
Thanks man, been a bit sick lately and honestly your vids really help calm the mind and you're a great digital harbor in a storm... Thanks
@HankHill4
@HankHill4 3 года назад
Nothing like seeing the morning Loctite come up over the mountain and the Loctite deer running across the field such a beautiful site
@bigtexas21489
@bigtexas21489 3 года назад
There is no neutral ( white) in the 240 v circuit ... the second leg of 120 is the return path Should have pulled a green ground wire through the flex and attach it to the ground bus bar
@Manc-king
@Manc-king 3 года назад
@@chrisspencer6502 ye but we have 240v they have 120v plus the old colours in the uk was red,black, green/green-yellow
@bigjimbo560
@bigjimbo560 3 года назад
yeah, should be two hot leads, red and black or both black, and a green to ground, no wire going to neutral bar
@JamesWhite-tg4kw
@JamesWhite-tg4kw 3 года назад
@@bigjimbo560 the white is just added security the neutral bar is a ground also it's attached to the box which is grounded. Both have white and green nowadays if not a green is added for a extra ground
@LeadBariBass
@LeadBariBass 2 года назад
@@JamesWhite-tg4kw Not in a sub-panel, which this is. Neutral and ground MUST not be bonded in any panel other than the main.
@EeZ3-808
@EeZ3-808 3 года назад
Awesome video, I’m an electrician, and maybe would have done things a little different, but I admit, I have a LOT of temporary thing around my place. I’ve even given them a name, Temporary Permanent. Again thanks for all the great content. PS: when I shut power off to a panel, I ALWAYS double check and test there is no power to it before I start shoving my hand in there. Aloha!
@mcmahon1130
@mcmahon1130 3 года назад
If you would have only "maybe done things a little different" than you're not an electrician.
@EeZ3-808
@EeZ3-808 3 года назад
@@mcmahon1130 I was trying to be nice and not give off negative vibes, because the world today is already full of it. Must be a sad existence just looking for things to troll. Sending my Aloha your way and hope you have a great holiday season! Sincerely, A Licensed General & Electrical Contractor
@mcmahon1130
@mcmahon1130 3 года назад
@@EeZ3-808 "Must be a sad existence looking for things to troll." I wouldn't know. Trying to make sure people don't get seriously hurt or killed isn't trolling. Try again.
@afdave7
@afdave7 2 года назад
I'm not an electrician but I work with high voltage at work and I double check everything after I secure power. I was glad to see someone else say the same. If we reach into a box at work without insulated gloves we will get hammered. even if we secured the power. at home I use more caution, but yeah, there was a lot of good info in this vid. cheers!!
@willbill7250
@willbill7250 Год назад
This only works if you have an extra opening for a 50 amp circuit
@andrewrogers396
@andrewrogers396 3 года назад
Morning from aus cody! You get my days started!
@Gaston4760
@Gaston4760 3 года назад
watch it before bedtime 23:00 nighttime 🇩🇰😴
@superclutchify
@superclutchify 3 года назад
The reason an electrician is called is because of a thing called "duty cycle" in the NEC. Amperage of the welder and wire size are not the full story.
@arizflash
@arizflash 3 года назад
No not the equipment duty cycle. The circuit duty cycle
@berniehernandez1680
@berniehernandez1680 3 года назад
Don't use 10 gauge for a welder extension cord on a 50 amp circuit. It's cheaper to buy a 8 gauge extension cord than to build one yourself.
@michaeldolin9760
@michaeldolin9760 3 года назад
I appreciate the fade to black for the mid roll ad. Classy stuff
@stevenhall9020
@stevenhall9020 3 года назад
This is the last time I do this, oh I'll just temp this in lol love the content as always!
@tomreichardt6044
@tomreichardt6044 3 года назад
I like your 'mountain fresh' Loctite graphic there at the end.
@ClarkS963
@ClarkS963 3 года назад
The image is good. I could tell a difference even before you mentioned having a new camera.
@shakedgabriel9807
@shakedgabriel9807 3 года назад
Me too. But I didn't really like the new one.
@adamscott7323
@adamscott7323 2 года назад
Nicely done. Thoroughly enjoyed the video and friendly commentary. Thank you.
@e9999qwe
@e9999qwe 3 года назад
Nice vid. But raised some questions for me. I am no pro electrician but I believe that normal 240V has 2 live conductors and a ground. No neutral. You do seem to mix up neutral and ground a bit throughout. Not the same thing. The neutral is intended for 120V split phase. Your 3rd wire should be green and connected directly to the ground bar, not to the neutral bar, AFAIK. Yes, the 120 neutral and ground are ultimately connected together someplace, maybe in your panel, but functionally they play a different role at the user level. Especially safety wise in case of a problem. The color coding is not just a trivial annoying convention, it may save you and other people from trouble at some point. It's not like your system will explode the first time you use it, not by a long shot, but personally, I would try to build it fully correctly, to be safer down the line. And this is actually interesting stuff to figure out.
@antonykahil
@antonykahil 3 года назад
I’ve always recommended friends to instal an L14-30 twist lock in their garages. It’s the twist lock equivalent to a dryer plug, and it’s far far the most useful plug out there. It’s the same 4pin twist lock that is on 95% of small generators. Becuase it has 2 legs and a neutral, you can plug just about anything into it, so long as it draws less than 30 amps of course
@JeremiahL
@JeremiahL Год назад
I like the twist lock because there is less chance someone will accidentally pull it out of the wall while im working. Also those drier receptacles are hard as all hell to pull out, and I have to stop my self from allowing my fingers to wrap around it to gain a better purchase on it while pulling it out. Im always worried about getting shocked that way.
@usmarinekenny
@usmarinekenny 3 года назад
Nice video, but just a few things about it I’ll clue you in on. That isn’t MC Cable, it’s actually flexible metallic conduit, we often refer to as greenfield at least down where I’m at. MC is similar to FMC but has wire already in it and most of the time smaller in diameter. Another thing is that while the two hot wire color are good, the third where you added the white is actually a ground not a neutral since it’s a 240 volt only circuit not a 120/240 volt circuit for instance like and range or stove is a 120/240 volt circuit since the burners use 240 volts while the electronic components like the digital clock and timers run on 120 volts. Which is why newer construction and wiring started using 4 wire receptacles and plugs versus the older 3 wire version where they used the ground as a neutral, but that’s another story. And last thing is the size wire you use depends on the type wire of cable you use, most residential areas use romex so you would be right in the 50 amp breaker sizing to use a number 6 awg wire, but since you did happen to run a conduit and use THHN single conductors like you did you can very well use a number 8 awg wire if you so chose to given that it’s not a great distance to the receptacle from the panel. I mentioned this because the wire type you used I’m referring to the NEC table 310.15(B)(16) for ampacity rating of wire or cables for different insulation types in three different temperature ratings measured in degrees Celsius, 60, 75, and 90. There are only two types that most residential residents deal with that romex which is the type that you see most of that comes in cable for etc. 14/2, 12/3 and so forth. And the other type is THHN which is dual rated THHN/THWN these are bought in the big box stores and both have a insulation rating of 90 degree Celsius, but the romex ampacity is while rated for 90 is limited to the 60 degree Celsius column which means a smaller current for a given wire size. But THHN/THWN Cable can use the 75 or 60 degree column depending on the size Wire and application of use. And the for the most part you are stuck with using the 60 degree column for wire sizes 10 awg and smaller except certain things like motors, and central air conditioners in a residential setting according to uf I’m not mistaken article 240 in the NEC. But for the most part 14 awg for 15 amps, 12 awg for 20 amps, and 10 awg for 30 amps most always. But that’s just a lil info thrown your way. If you are using conduit and using THHN you can use 8 awg for 50 amps but if using regular black romex without conduit number 6 awg is needed. But bigger wire can be used, that’s just if you wanted to save a few pennies. I didn’t mean to get too technical with it. Keep doing videos, and have a great day.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 3 года назад
I love thoughtful posts like this, usually learning more in the comments section than in the actual video. It is my understanding that if you're going to use the higher temp rating, everything in the circuit needs to be rated to the higher temp, including the breaker. So, even if the wire is OK at 90, if the breaker is only rated to 60, you're hooped, you need to use the 60 column for wire size. I live in Canada so we use a different code. All the breakers I can buy are only rated to 60, and even inquiry with the breaker manufacturer ends up with 60. So we are stuck, AWG 6 if the run isn't too long.
@throoppete4021
@throoppete4021 2 года назад
@@spelunkerd i live in canada and want to do this also so could you let me know what wire and breakers I have to use here.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 2 года назад
@@throoppete4021 Depending on the city and province you live in, you may get very helpful advice from your local building inspectors. I usually draw out a plan, think it through very carefully, and then go to the inspection dept with a list of questions before I even start. When they realize they are dealing with somebody who put effort in and honestly wants to do it correctly, they will help you and the final inspection is a breeze. I would not even consider trying to do this without an inspection, it is illegal and you will be liable for dangerous mistakes, even years later. It takes hundreds of hours of study to get things right, so approach the task with humility. When adding something like a welder you need to consider whether your feeder wires can tolerate the increase in demand, and the duty cycle, which is a tricky question if you have a transformer style welder and a house with older or overloaded wiring already. PS Knight published a series of booklets (electrical code simplified) that distill down the CEC to a readable format, and a recent edition of his book would be a good place to start.
@woodworkerroyer8497
@woodworkerroyer8497 3 года назад
Love that herd of localope you filmed there at the end! So beautiful!
@jessehays5975
@jessehays5975 3 года назад
You can definitely tell you have a GREAT CAMERA with awesome DETAIL!!
@FosterFarmsOk
@FosterFarmsOk 3 года назад
Our cost doubles when we come fix what a homeowner messed up. LOL oh and the 3/4 greenfield we just bend until it breaks then cut and trim with side cutters. Much quicker than finding the saw. And you have to install a green ground in flex. It cannot be used as a ground.
@wobblysauce
@wobblysauce 3 года назад
Ha, and attaching the ground so far down on the bar... so close.
@paulchurnock6465
@paulchurnock6465 3 года назад
@@wobblysauce He didn't attach the 'ground', he fully believes that's a neutral.
@yellowflash5555
@yellowflash5555 3 года назад
If the welder has a 4 wire hookup id upgrade the recep and cord. Grounding is one of the most important things. Also keeping ground and neutrals separate in subpanels. Ya don't want current running through your ground wire that can go to equipment and possibly shock and harm yourself. Electricity will take any and all paths back to its source. Hope that was helpful! I love your videos!!
@cjdixon7132
@cjdixon7132 3 года назад
I am really enjoying see how you upgrade your shop.
@redoakranch1783
@redoakranch1783 3 года назад
I just converted two hots and a neutral to two hots and a ground. I was happy to see the ground wire capped off in the box when I opened it up. I checked to make sure it was actually grounded. All done for $15 in the wall and bought a $50 25’ 50A extension cord.
@ThisOldPanda
@ThisOldPanda 3 года назад
Uploaded 2 minutes ago? Just intime for me to watch while i wash up 😁 nothing beats a wranglerstar vlog while your doing the boring chores. Stay safe and god bless
@rud
@rud 3 года назад
The red coated lockdeers are migrating early his year.
@edwinbenedict4612
@edwinbenedict4612 3 года назад
I am not an electrician so take my comments with a grain of salt. #1, for the safety of your viewers, please begin videos about working with high voltage in sub panels with these safety protocols...shut off power at the main panel not just at the sub panel, then, test for voltage with a voltmeter before sticking your hands in that sub panel with the cover off. #2, in addition to the 50 amp (NEMA 6-50) outlet you have installed, I suggest that you mount another 240 outlet fused at 30 amps (NEMA 6-30) for the 10 gauge extension cord you will be running as you never know when an unsuspecting person might someday plug a 40 or 50 amp device thru that 10 gauge wire which is rated 30 amps max.
@thorzyan
@thorzyan 3 года назад
Video quality Looks great and the audio sounds good as well. When you can get to it, now that YT streams 4K to Apple TV, I’d love to watch your family in the full glory of my 65” curved tv. Thanks for the lesson as always friend!
@williamdebow3478
@williamdebow3478 3 года назад
If this gets inspected by a legitimate inspector it will fail. You cannot use a white wire as a ground wire. It must be green or bare copper. You are doing a great job but if people are watching you to learn they need to be taught the proper way. No biggy, just correct it and tell people about the mistake.
@socmonki
@socmonki 3 года назад
And land it on the correct bus.
@williamdebow3478
@williamdebow3478 3 года назад
@@socmonki Most non electricians don't understand the difference between neutral and ground and having separate buss after the first point of distribution or about when to put that extra green screw that came with the box into the buss!!
@socmonki
@socmonki 3 года назад
@@williamdebow3478 true!
@kingofrandom9504
@kingofrandom9504 3 года назад
Might be able to pass if he marks the whole wire green or strip the whole wire so it is bare
@briandish1787
@briandish1787 3 года назад
What about the missing bushing?
@DznByLimbo
@DznByLimbo 3 года назад
Video quality is noticeably better. Also I am in love with the new shop! You've done an amazing job of creating a great backdrop... oh yeah and its pretty functional too! Still thinking about you and your family, praying y'all get through the tough times you're facing soon.
@johnwaw6363
@johnwaw6363 3 года назад
I don’t know if it a function of better contrast but the video seemed dark. Maybe the lighting was different.
@willbill7250
@willbill7250 Год назад
​@@johnwaw6363The dark almost vignette look is a Cannon feature
@dogbugler
@dogbugler 3 года назад
Brother Cody, it's always a pleasure watching your beautiful videos. Never discount your awesome skills, ok... Stay Safe, Bee Well, keep the cutlery sharp. Shalom
@Banjo-lm2wl
@Banjo-lm2wl 3 года назад
How exciting getting your work shop all in tact. God bless you and your family from The Land Down Under
@krisglenn1830
@krisglenn1830 3 года назад
It would be a good idea to bond your flex to the ground bus in the panel. I believe the white wire should be green and terminated on the ground bus instead of the neutral bus. Good work and it’s good to see people try to figure these things out themselves. Respect
@thisIsSomeShite
@thisIsSomeShite Год назад
Most underrated comment of this thread!
@robertmeier9620
@robertmeier9620 3 года назад
Sorry Wranglerstar but electrical inspection=fail. You connected the EGC (ground terminal) of the receptacle to the neutral in the panel. You should have used a green conductor instead of a white one and connected it the EGC bus on the left side of the panel. BTW that's FMC (flexible metallic conduit) not MC cable.
@briandish1787
@briandish1787 3 года назад
Yes and it needs a bushing installed.
@brantcarpenter33
@brantcarpenter33 3 года назад
Plus that isn’t a ground bar on the left side, they are both neutral bars. Still need to install the ground bar.
@robertmeier9620
@robertmeier9620 3 года назад
@@brantcarpenter33 That's incorrect. There is no connection between the EGC (ground) bar on the left and the neutral bar on the right. This is a sub-panel so the EGC bus and the neutral bus are isolated from each other. The EGC bus is bonded to the enclosure by the strap in the center of the bus.
@beesinspace6470
@beesinspace6470 3 года назад
Also at 8:50, I see other wires connected with wire nuts at the top of the box. My understanding is there are no connections or other devices allowed in the panel other than to breakers or the neutral and ground bus bars - the whole thing is a walking code violation. Clearly the only "permit" he pulls is the one where he's permitting people on youtube to imagine he's qualified and knows what he's doing, which he clearly isn't. I installed a 50A circuit for a welder a couple of years ago, but at least I did it properly!
@mcmahon1130
@mcmahon1130 3 года назад
@@beesinspace6470 Nah man, you can splice wires in a panel.
@logantarr1522
@logantarr1522 3 года назад
Video quality looks great on my phone, ill be doing this very project here shortly, thanks for the video!
@darrenhelmsKINGED
@darrenhelmsKINGED Год назад
Thank you for the 50 amp plug install.
@lee_wot9326
@lee_wot9326 3 года назад
Just a few suggestions or possibly helpful pieces of information if you will. If you notice the screw in the plug you landed the neutral on is green and is so because it’s intended for a ground wire and not a neutral. Most anything that requires 240v does not require a neutral, minus some oddball motor loads. I also took notice in the fact that none of the other branch circuits coming out of your panel (breaker box) have a grounding conductor in their conduit. Non of which meets NEC requirements. It is your property so I won’t presume to tell you what/how to do your things, would just like to point out the aforementioned details. Love your videos though! Keep up the good work!
@RiverRatCatfishing
@RiverRatCatfishing 11 месяцев назад
it looks like all the grounds are twisted together coming through the elbow at the bottom of the panel. The white neutral wire becomes a ground. He should add green tape to the wire indicating that it is now a ground not a neutral wire and move it to the ground bar
@dillwiggle2
@dillwiggle2 9 месяцев назад
Yeah he put the white wire which should actually be a ground (colour of wire is irrelevant) but it should have gone to the ground bar not the neutral bar. 230v Welders and air compressors don’t need a neutral white wire they just need the 2 hot and ground wire.
@seaneyo2006
@seaneyo2006 3 года назад
It appears you have a 4 wire sub panel in your garage. It all looks good except you should have ran that "ground wire" over to the ground bar, not the neutral bar.
@COBARHORSE1
@COBARHORSE1 3 года назад
And it should be green.
@seaneyo2006
@seaneyo2006 3 года назад
@@COBARHORSE1 I agree, at the very least should be taped green
@williamdebow3478
@williamdebow3478 3 года назад
See that's where the mistake just gets bigger. It seemed logical to attach the white wire where other white wires were. If the proper color had been used he probably would have terminated it at the right place. On the terminal that is bonded to the panel, not the neutral buss that is floating. Moral of the story is the outlet will not be properly grounded. At minimum phase the white wire with green tape on both ends and relocate the wire in the panel to the ground buss. 5 minute fix.
@williamdebow3478
@williamdebow3478 3 года назад
@@TheRealTonyCastillo In all honesty it should be fine unless he needs a ground to protect him one day like a damaged wire somewhere or kneeling in water or on damp concrete. The welder does not "need" the ground to work properly, it's just that he has no leakage protection AND the neutral is now connected to the frame of the welder and can induce current onto it causing a shock hazard. Other than getting electrocuted, no big deal! A bigger issue is that people come here to learn from him because he is an awesome guy, but then they learn bad habits and get hurt. Everybody wants to be an electrician. They learn just enough to get a false sense of security and be dangerous.
@socmonki
@socmonki 3 года назад
@@williamdebow3478 And that is why we get paid so much. Because we know to do it correctly. :)
@KesselRunLX
@KesselRunLX 3 года назад
Love the new camera! Sharper image and colors seem cooler. I noticed before you even mentioned it.
@gerrardhaigh4670
@gerrardhaigh4670 3 года назад
That bench and vice and lighting is really giving me the fizz
@MrRhettzki
@MrRhettzki 3 года назад
Funny the circumstances that we eat our words. Cody criticizes the previous electricians workmanship installing the panel and the "looks" of things and instals the shodiest looking work of the whole panel. I know he's gonna "replace" it. Just funny irony.
@MJMKW
@MJMKW 3 года назад
Jack of all trades, master of... not electricity. 240v welder should have a green ground wire going to the left side ground busbar in your sub-panel, not the white "neutral" connected where it is -that ties back to your main panels neutral.
@omary5439
@omary5439 3 года назад
I like the new camera. Plus this is gonna be useful as I've so far only used 110v on my 110-240v welder.
@psychodocter
@psychodocter 3 года назад
Edifying and electrifying! Thanks
@vansgardens2304
@vansgardens2304 3 года назад
Your panel appears to have separate ground and neutral bars, as it should being a sub-panel. If it’s a straight 240v welder your ground wire is the wrong color and connected to the wrong place in the panel. If it’s a 120/240v welder you are missing a ground wire. Either way, it’s a fail.
@fishandgameman
@fishandgameman 3 года назад
Agreed! That’s a sub panel and should not be bonded. On a 240V circuit for your welder, you shouldn’t have a neutral. The two 120V legs or phases carry the AC current back to the source. That is what the neutral wire does on a 120V circuit because it has to have a return path and it only has one hot leg, so it needs a neutral. EXTREME SAFETY TIP: You are using what is intended to be and equipment bonding conductor connected to your neutral buss. The white wire in your circuit should be connected to the ground buss where your bare copper wires are terminated and by code should be green. The equipment bonding conductor need not be any larger than the bare copper wire connected to your grounding electrode driven in the earth at the first service disconnect where the service enters the building at that first service disconnect. Probably 6AWG OR 8AWG. I couldn’t see, but the green bonding screw should be removed in the sub panel if it isn’t. A system should have only one grounding electrode driven into the earth at only one point. The equipment bonding conductor is the last lone of defense to protect you at the equipment. It rarely will shut the circuit off in the case of a fault. The only way to stop the current is to shut it off at the source which will occur at the circuit breaker for the welder in an over current or short circuit condition. You are basically bonding your sub panel when the welder is plugged in. Any fault current will be sent over your entire neutral side of your system rather than back to the main service disconnect where the neutral and grounding electrodes are bonded in that panel. I’m not an electrician but studied the NEC when I added a 100 Amp sub in my garage and rewired my house because I didn’t like the multi-wire branch circuit design. I brought it up to the 2017 NEC code, had it inspected.
@PortersMob
@PortersMob 3 года назад
@@fishandgameman I got some bad news, don't watch any of his other videos on electrical. or you'll be writing the same thing on every one of them...
@andrewbieger5004
@andrewbieger5004 3 года назад
Never ceases to amaze me that so many of the DIY crowd thinks that doing electrical work is a hobby. There is MUCH more to the deal than black to black and white to white. They also think that bonding (or not) is basically arbitrary.
@vansgardens2304
@vansgardens2304 3 года назад
@@andrewbieger5004 Agreed! It’s not until they lose a neutral and the ground wire tries to supply an outbuilding with current and the whole thing burns down. THEN they’ll ask for advice on the importance of bonding.
@thomast8539
@thomast8539 3 года назад
@@andrewbieger5004 The DIY crowd can STILL wire the run correctly without having to hire the professional for jobs like this. Just because you are not a professional, doesn't mean that you have to hire one every time. Maybe that is also what you meant, but your condescending wording implies otherwise.
@wayupnort6271
@wayupnort6271 3 года назад
My late uncle used to say..”There’s nothing more permanent than something temporary”..😁Keep up the good work Cody, we’re with ya!
@willb3018
@willb3018 3 года назад
I don't know if he originated this, but "Watch Wes Work" often says.."it's temporary, unless it works"
@seeszm
@seeszm 3 года назад
Your videos always look great. I think you’re the only one who knows about the drop frame rate
@lukeburnett8538
@lukeburnett8538 3 года назад
Very sharp, very natural looking image! 10/10 from me 💪
@bradleybruh
@bradleybruh 3 года назад
FYI that’s metal flex (aluminum or steel) not M/C cable. M/C is essentially mental flex with relevant wire size and number of wires. Yes white is a neutral but you used it for a ground so it should be green. Sometimes a neutral is required, neutral being always white. Ground is always green. Just a couple pointers, nothing against the video!
@mcmahon1130
@mcmahon1130 3 года назад
Neutrals are gray at times, man.
@djscrizzle
@djscrizzle 2 года назад
@@mcmahon1130 On a 277v circuit, grey identifies the neutral conductor. Even fancier, is having all the neutrals with matching phase colors as stripes. Of course, this is best practice, but in the electrical service speciality, we'll often use what's on the truck instead of running back n forth getting supplies.
@almosthomesteading9734
@almosthomesteading9734 3 года назад
Impressive herd at the end. LOL
@austinpresley6187
@austinpresley6187 3 года назад
You might even say they 'stick' together. 😁
@ariboni73
@ariboni73 2 года назад
color is on point looks great
@ftball0828
@ftball0828 3 года назад
As always look forward to any and all of your content.
@benf8487
@benf8487 3 года назад
When setting up your air compressor, I would consider running pex to outlets around the shop. Me and my dad ran pex to quick connect outlets every 20 feet in the barn and it has made a huge difference. No more 100 foot hoses getting tangled and tripping over them. Eliminating annoyances when working is half the battle. Just some food for thought :)
@joshuahill8823
@joshuahill8823 3 года назад
Did notice that the breaker you used doesn’t match the panel might not be UL listed the the application seimens panel cutler-hammer breaker
@shaunroberts9361
@shaunroberts9361 3 года назад
Yes Audio and video was great. Really like that shirt you were wearing.
@intoxicatingmasculinity4866
@intoxicatingmasculinity4866 3 года назад
That gave me a good chuckle when you said, "...see, you're not wasting time on RU-vid at all..." I do feel guilty sometimes, but I'm guessing I'm not the only one.
@tomalexander7313
@tomalexander7313 3 года назад
Did you read my mind? I just moved into a new house with a shop and was going to look up how to put a 240 in my shop for welding lol
@paulchurnock6465
@paulchurnock6465 3 года назад
Now you know how not to do it.
@Steviethegr8
@Steviethegr8 3 года назад
Electrician- don’t do what this guy is showing you... lol
@dustinkoehn6890
@dustinkoehn6890 3 года назад
I just bought a Lincoln 180 myself and need 240. Perfect timing for me as well on this video.
@Cotronixco
@Cotronixco 3 года назад
Cody, PLEASE ground that circuit.
@kjrehberg
@kjrehberg 3 года назад
He'll find out why eventually. Too bad people make dangerous videos like this.
@dhyde9207
@dhyde9207 3 года назад
Video quality is AWESOME.
@Adam_B
@Adam_B 3 года назад
Love the Loctite placement!
@paulchurnock6465
@paulchurnock6465 3 года назад
Where to start on the NEC disaster you filmed... 1. That's not 'MC Cable', it's Flexible Metallic Conduit or FMC. 2. A 3-prong outlet is a 240V outlet, not a 120/240V, so the middle prong is a ground, not neutral. Note the brass rivet connecting the terminal to the enclosure. Hope you don't have a phase imbalance, otherwise you might want to avoid touching that conduit. 2a. Because you put a white wire on the receptacle's ground terminal, you connected the other end to the wrong terminal in the panel. 2b. It looks like you don't have a neutral bonding jumper in the panel, assuming this is a sub-panel, so good luck on that ground path. 3. Using 10/3 rubber cord with 50A devices on it exceeds the rating of the cable. 4. You didn't put any conduit straps on your excessively long FMC run. 5. The welders and equipment that you connect to this plug need to have a MOCP (maximum overcurrent protection) rating of 50A. A 30A piece of equipment won't, so you aren't protecting it appropriately.
@ericchild8845
@ericchild8845 3 года назад
I was sitting here cringing as the violations stacked up in this video and have come to realize these are the reasons we have NEC’s and NEMA, etc… I don’t even want to know what the main panel feeding this potential disaster looks like. I find this kinda work all the time and it makes me pretty nervous when it is a new or unfamiliar site because even touching a conduit running along a wall in a garage can be a very painful and possibly deadly experience. I can’t even tell you how many times I have heard people say the neutral and ground anode bars in a panel are basically the same so it doesn’t matter where you secure and set your neutral or ground wires… I have given up trying to explain why they are indeed bonded at the meter panel or the next in line panel and then NOT bonded together in further sub panels within a given structure because I just get a blank stare or some comment about being nit picky, overly finicky or whatever. Unfortunately we have begun to defeat Darwin’s Theory thru overly protective and many times restrictive laws here in the US, but dammit, this is a prime example of why we need them. I wish this guy well and home he hasn’t burned his house down, zorched the insides of one of his welders, worse yet been hurt or by or hurt someone else since this posting. “If you don’t know what it is, what it does or how it works, it is highly recommended that you use your phone a friend card or at least do a simple quick and dirty Google search for the given subject matter.”
@mikeofalltrades69
@mikeofalltrades69 3 года назад
10 gauge is only rated for 30 amps you need to upgrade that wire
@rrussell39
@rrussell39 3 года назад
I know you get a lot of know-it-alls when you do your own work. However, as an electrical contractor/master electrician I have one tip for you. Going forward, do not rely on the metallic conduit as a ground path. I have seen more problems (electrocutions) in shop settings because of not having a ground wire ran with the circuits. If your metallic conduit is done perfectly, you should be fine on 20 and 30 amp circuits...but conduit (especially flexible conduit) has a maximum overcurrent device rating when relying on it for an adequate ground path. Check the National Electrical Code. As a rule, we always run a green ground in all raceways...because we never know if the mechanical conduit connections in a workshop will always be 100% since they are exposed. We like to have the ground conductor as the main path in case the conduit connections are ever damaged. Shops and garages especially. Also, you can go with #8 for 50 amp as long as it is not NM cable (Romex). #8 THHN or THWN is rated at 55 amps unless you have some local code ammendment that says otherwise. I will say that you do a really good job though with what I have seen...and yes, Twist-Lok receptacles are a headache for us too. Nothing wrong with ditching them if you can.
@yobentley7274
@yobentley7274 3 года назад
Side cuts are awesome.
@garybrightbill4881
@garybrightbill4881 3 года назад
Thats a ground not a neutral and it should be green.
@socmonki
@socmonki 3 года назад
And it shouldn't be on the neutral bus. If that panel is fed from the main panel the neutral and ground are bonded there, and that white should be on the ground bus with green tape to signify it is a ground, not a neutral. This is why people who aren't electricians shouldn't be doing electrical work.
@kingofrandom9504
@kingofrandom9504 3 года назад
@@socmonki or people who don't know what they're doing,I'm not an electrician yet but I do all my own work as long as I am certain I know what I'm doing
@smartcookie3500
@smartcookie3500 3 года назад
240V, two hots and a ground.
@xxMacDaddy84xx
@xxMacDaddy84xx 3 года назад
@@socmonki FYI - code says it has to be #4 and larger for you to identify it with green tape. Technically, a green wire should have been used.
@socmonki
@socmonki 3 года назад
@@xxMacDaddy84xx code or not, it's still supposed to be a ground and either bare or green. I doubt an inspector would fail a #6 green, but he will fail the white on neutral bus.
@nicholassmerk
@nicholassmerk 3 года назад
Don't put an electrical box on the end of an extension cord if you have any employees, anyone else using your shop, or kids...it's a bad idea.
@kjrehberg
@kjrehberg 3 года назад
When I saw the box I laughed out loud. Please don't encourage this guy. He's going to hurt himself or others.
@LJOS21
@LJOS21 3 года назад
Thank buddy. I like that ending jajaja. Cheers from Venezuela. 🤓👍🏻
@eliboss1080
@eliboss1080 3 года назад
I can really tell the difference with these new cameras. NICE!
@johnbailey3613
@johnbailey3613 3 года назад
I was getting a drink of water when the locktight deer came across the field. I almost spit it out. That was thanks.
@shiftrk1255
@shiftrk1255 3 года назад
Did any other electricians notice the white wire landed where the ground should have gone.
@bobbyd7697
@bobbyd7697 3 года назад
There's so much wrong with the installation of this receptacle. The only hack is how its done, terribly. Terrible advice. White wire where a green should have been, minimum #10. #6 not needed as #8 is fine as a professional homeowner, whatever the f that is. The panel feed will probably trip as you add more equipment and then use the welder as the feed looks like #8 The receptacle is installed upside down, as the cord on most equipment will be opposite of how its attached to the wall with flexible metallic cable, as that is not MC cable. Race ways are typically put in place and then wires are dragged through. I am tired of Cody saying electricians are arrogant when it's painfully obvious he hasn't a clue nor a code book nor a care to have one or and electrician handbook. We go to school and do field work for a reason.
@kjpw147
@kjpw147 3 года назад
Thanks for the video ! I’ll save it for when I have my own shop
@clintonminer7636
@clintonminer7636 3 года назад
Just one more project on my list that you have showed me how to finish. And thanks for the hunting season smile at the end
@jonwebsterabbott
@jonwebsterabbott 3 года назад
How long was the home run to the electrical panel? Just saying $1500 is meaningless without context.
@kjrehberg
@kjrehberg 3 года назад
Yeah, and that price includes doing it the right and safe way, being covered by both homeowner's and the electrician's insurance.
@dillonsifferle8620
@dillonsifferle8620 3 года назад
As an electrician when I see the word “hack” on an electrical video I get scared
@codyshearer7626
@codyshearer7626 3 года назад
Im shure you are a great electrician, but the electrician that wired my house was a "hack" in his work.
@Prepping2endure
@Prepping2endure 3 года назад
Glad I'm not the only one who cringed
@stewdaven28
@stewdaven28 3 года назад
I was scared for the same reason, and it is justified. He totally wired that welder outlet up wrong. Should have used a green conductor instead of white, and he should have landed it on the ground bus, not the neutral bus. It’s dangerous as he has it wired up right now. And to top it off, he kept calling the FMC (Flexible Metallic Conduit)-which is purchased without wire in it-MC Cable, which is purchased with wire pre-installed inside the metal armor, which also happens to be much smaller than FMC. Cody also tends to fail at meeting the code requirements to secure and support his conduits, including the FMC. He didn’t install any straps on that conduit that I saw. I don’t know if the price he was quoted for the job is justified or not, but he has shown here exactly why you should hire an electrician for certain things. It’s all about safety, and Cody fails on safety in this video.
@codyshearer7626
@codyshearer7626 3 года назад
@@stewdaven28 give him a break looked just fine to me. Codys work is far superior to any electrician ive worked with.
@stewdaven28
@stewdaven28 3 года назад
@@codyshearer7626 You should find a better electrician then. I’m not excusing bad work that some electrician do, but what Cody did in this video is dangerous. That must be said.
@saccaed
@saccaed 3 года назад
Good vid. Did the same a while back. Made for a good weekend project.
@jakerabinowitz3793
@jakerabinowitz3793 3 года назад
Amazingly sharp footage! Nothing beats a Canon
@jamesacker7343
@jamesacker7343 3 года назад
You put the receptacle on the wall upside down
@bigjimbo560
@bigjimbo560 3 года назад
yes he did, not a very good video
@garymcguinness1251
@garymcguinness1251 3 года назад
Hello from a wet night in Ireland Cody 🇮🇪
@kevinhornbuckle
@kevinhornbuckle 3 года назад
Good advice and encouragement. Thank you.
@ryanbisi3830
@ryanbisi3830 3 года назад
The image quality looks amazing
@Steviethegr8
@Steviethegr8 3 года назад
Why would you put this up here? You shouldn’t be putting that ground that’s white for some reason on the neutral bar in a sub panel.
@wranglerstar
@wranglerstar 3 года назад
Yawn,
@fredthompson2501
@fredthompson2501 3 года назад
Almost shot tv when all the racks where going by.
@RobertLeBlancPhoto
@RobertLeBlancPhoto 3 года назад
Congrats on the R5. I have the R and 5D4 and love them.
@MillimeterMech
@MillimeterMech 3 года назад
Good choice on 50Amp. The machine will be less likely to trip the breaker when running high amps and pushing close to the duty cycle. Cheers-southwest Michigan
@D_Spear
@D_Spear 3 года назад
The neutral or white wire is actually acting as a ground, should have ran a green wire for the ground instead.
@lovebug1336
@lovebug1336 3 года назад
This could be sub panel. He never specifies . a sub panel is not grounded. Because a grounded wire is a non current carrying conductor.
@tomkrause62
@tomkrause62 3 года назад
@@lovebug1336 Yet another oddity in the electrical code that makes zero sense. Grounds everywhere, except in a sub panel?
@D_Spear
@D_Spear 3 года назад
@@lovebug1336 a sub panel is grounded, just the neutral is not bonded to the panel 🤦🏻‍♂️
@aarons1609
@aarons1609 3 года назад
A sub-panel is absolutely grounded! If you’re not grounding sub-panels then you’re doing it wrong! Residential sub-panels should be fed with (4) conductors - (2) “Hot legs”, a neutral and a ground.
@819John
@819John 3 года назад
I want to see the video of inspection day and the ground is a white wire hooked the neutral bar. Please save lives by not doing anymore how to electrical hack videos.
@kjrehberg
@kjrehberg 3 года назад
Seems like he'll find this out the hard way.
@wb5mgr
@wb5mgr 3 года назад
If you plan on making a long cord, 6/3SOOW is available at most electrical supply houses. Minimizes voltage drop.
@DH-ry2ho
@DH-ry2ho 3 года назад
This is a very informative video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us.
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