Hi Dan, so how did the OEX Leviathan EV 900 do? Has is kept you warm enough so far this winter? Are its temperature gauge ratings accurate? Talk to me Dan! Is it worth the money to buy one like it?
Yer all good Dan. I just read that JD sports have bought back Go Outdoors so hopefully you can keep these OEX reviews coming. They should sponsor you, tbh. 👍
Only use down bags nowadays, they are so much warmer. 1500 version when it's minus temps, 1000 version 0-10deg, 600 version for pure summer use. The 1000 version gets the most use here in southern UK. I store them all in large net bags when not in use. It's good they supplied a large bag with this bag. Most don't do this.
Another good honest review bud it's great to see what's out there on the market. I wouldn't buy one at that price even those that is an excellent reduction not only the cost but the bulk is way to big for my kit. Hope to see a proper in use later in the year when snow on the ground. Stay safe and keep em coming bud 👍
love the channel, should be called english woodsman / english philosophy. wasnt sure on this bag or the fjern hygge 400 but will now buy this one. as of 06/12/22 £140.00 with 10% off at go outdoors. thanks.
Just got back from Go Outdoors with one Dan, i am just reminding myself what you thought about it...i paid 119 quid and i thought that was a bargain ....i do have a North Face sleeping bag that is good to go down to minus 30 in and i have spent the night in the Pyrenese at minus 20 and it was warm enough but only just while i was wearing thermal underwear by Helly Hensen so i am keen to find out how this much cheaper bag compares...I paid over 400 quid for my North face but it doesnt pack down as well as this OEX which is the only reason i bought it bevause i want to do some minimalist light weight winter wild camping...thanks for all the effort you put into making your vids mate .
You should have shown it in the stuff sack and not the storage bag. Seems a few people are saying it's too big. That will be why! I got mine a few weeks ago.£119 on top of that there was a 15% discount code so for what I paid and what you get I think it was a great price also have the OEX 300 down which is light weight packs down small and seems very good.
Good you can vent the bottom zip on it. I have duck down in my rab Accent 700 1.3 kg 80/20 feather. 650 mix. I would not go lower than -7 in it without layering though . That's a bargain for 120 pound , ethically sourced too , be weary of the ratings though you should be good down to -8 on comfort in a bivvy i recon with no layers hope you get a good winter -12 to test it.
That's a big drop in price , nows the best time to buy, the weight is decent not too heavy at all, looks a great bag mate, most I've ever paid for a sleeping bag is £40, good vid mate, ATB 👍
Good vid mate. I got that bag a couple of years ago. Not bad. Comfort rating is nonsense. I had it at -5 just before lockdown and was about OK. Zip is a complete disaster. Gets caught easy. I was sooo careful but it ended up bursting anyway. Managed to get it back on but we shall see how long it lasts.
@@englishwoodsman yes mate. Pack it in the stuff sack for trips, but when back at home put it in the net to allow it to loft slightly (important for the longevity of the bag).
I use a rab accent 1100 for winter retails for 300 I got it for 200, I've had the OEX Leviathan 900 (paid 139.00) but it leaked a lot of feathers on the first use so I took it back. The Rab is hands down far superior but you do pay the price.
Looks like a bargain Dan. It'd be too narrow for me as i like to have space to move around and sleep with my arm out of the bag. I use the British army sleep system (the latest one) and so far its been great. I can take as much as I need depending on the temperature and weather and this time of year dont need a tent, just the bivy or a basha. Its a bit bulky when combined, but I have a massive pack for winter so it fits in no problem with all my other gear. Great vid mate and decent review. Cheers.
@@englishwoodsman hi just google western mountaineering sleeping bag then and search shop loads will come up i have megalite i think its called Used it at minus 5 in snowblizards on top of mam tor and was snug as owt
@@englishwoodsman Like you say... real world reviews and that is important to me so thanks buddy, I do appreciate the reply. Makes me want to get out in the back garden lol
That kind of money for a bag only good to -10 Celcius seems laughable to me. It is still hitting -10 here and spring is well under way. Looks comfy though!
Hi buddy, just cancelled my Amazon order for a Naturehike, and ordered this, going to use it in an Alpkit Elan should be fine for our winters. Now, as nobody has answered your question - Hydrophobic - is a treatment they do on the down filling, basically even if the filling gets damp it will retain its heat, great for a winter bivvy where your guaranteed to get some condensation, hope that helps you out buddy. Keep up the good work 👍
Hate to say, that bag has been that price for most of the year. I brought it around 18 months ago at that price, it's not worth anymore. I think the ratings are misleading.
Its okay, we dont really need much more than that in the UK. I guess you'll get down to minus 7-8. Mine was one of the original ones which had a comfort rating down to minus 17. I think theyvesinve adjusted that. Unfortunately non of the oex down bags have great reviews, I've noticed go outdoors periodically delete the bad reviews which is misleading in itself!
i have the same one but i find it leeks to many feathers, like lot in the tent by morning ang they cause me irritation, i might get a different one, but keep the videos coming
HUGE sleeping bag that is! Doubt I'd fit it in my bergan! Twice the size of the old Army bouncing bomb sleeping bag. I know that they work too. I took one of them down to -35°C in a snow hole in canada for 4 nights. Dount I'd pay that for that sleeping bag in all honesty, but good review. Keep 'em coming.
In fairness buddy, I find down no good anyway. Slight bit of damp and they lose their heat real quickly, and wales is damp in the summer, let alone the winter when you'll be using this! Snugpak softie bags are the way forward mate. Small packing, light and warm. Tested too. Always used by lads in the infantry.
Once it’s out of its storage bag it compresses down quite well in its compression sack as for holding water it doesn’t happen with this bag , like most modern own bags it’s hydrophobic meaning it repels moisture. I’ve had one for years and never had a problem with it
you got a great deal on that bag !!!! one of my friends gave me a used Ascent bag rated at -20 F / -29 C for me to use for winter camping. it has a messed up zipper but it will be a great top quilt for use in my hammock. plus it is actually too warm for her. it originally cost over $200 US. it is a synthetic fill but having already tested it I know it works in the conditions I tried it in
Hi with regards to rab ascent bag I think they will repair it for free or a very reasonable price as they have excellent warranty for their products Got to be worth asking for cost of a phone call
I have a Robens Couloir 1000 down bag hydrophobic down with DWR coating, has centre zip which I prefer 700 fill power. Paid £220 instead of £450 as they don't make 1000 now. Love your honest reviews. P.S. have slept out in 0 degree was toastie warm just had thermal long John's thermal top and socks. Tent was covered in frost on the morning.
Well butd I would not pay that price for a sleeping the most I have paid is just short of £200 and it is called the snugpak special forces double bag system central zip rated to-20 but it is a synthetic sleeping my down sleeping bag is the alpkit sky high 700 hydra down sleeping rated to -18 both excellent sleeping buddy
Hi mate fit I am just doing a review video I go to my permission place it a small woodland,, If I. Am camping it can be my local woodland or a 20 minute drive
I'm tempted to buy this bag, but have seen a few reviews that cast doubts on its hydrophobic qualities/capabilities, which if it isn't capable make it an expensive bag. Has anyone put them to the test at all?
Hi mate I have read a lot of people saying they are no good past - 1, But I will do my own test when the colder weather comes, if it fails I will just take it back, But I have never had any problems with the oex evolution sleeping bag range and I have them all ru-vid.com/group/PLtwUBGcwyQ2rbfqyKceTmC9lj7W6PunKH
@@englishwoodsman Hi mate, and thanks for the reply. Have got a 15% discount voucher, which make it just a shade over £100, so very tempted. Thanks for doing reviews of affordable gear instead of reviewing expensive stuff and saying you must have this at £500 as it's 200 grams lighter like a lot of reviewers do!
@@englishwoodsman I bit the bullet and bought it. Seems a really well made bag, and the labels state it's hydrophobic, as does one of the flaps on the bag itself, so any problems like you say, back it will go. The OEX stuff seems good kit though, so just can't wait for cooler weather to try it out now! Update! Only got down to 8 degrees last night, but was able to sleep comfortably in just pants, have high hopes for this when I go camping in the winter. Just got to buy a better sleeping mat now where the bag doesn't slide off it! Wish I could find a decent pillow now. Bought a Paria down pillow, and even with a down jacket as extra stuffing, it's still not great, and I can't get on with inflatables. Anyone any ideas?
@@Peteheys Hi, just did a Google search for voucher codes for GoOutdoors. Think the one I used was 'scoutleader15', I'm not a scout leader, but it worked! Guess it may have expired by now.
Looks toasty . Nearly bought a summer bag today at go outdoors. Tempted likes was half the size and weight might be a trip back down there 2mrw ! Good stuff I agree about the drawcords it’s different when you are sleeping cold they do keep the heat in
I have a 3 season Roberts outdoors sleeping bag that was made to measure me being a large lad I need the extra room that was a similar price. For winter I have a sea to summit TK3 its too warm though for most of our winter temperatures. Looks like a good bag though. You'll have to do more winter camps now and post more videos.
No probs mate enjoyed this one ill await the full review. Yes us big lads need made to measure. Roberts outdoors were great i told them what I wanted and what extras and they came up with the price. I wanted wide and short. Mate its awesome. Good for comfort minus 5 and weighs under 700 grams.
@@englishwoodsman For winter I currently combine my 3 season bag with my Jerven Fjellduken Hunter (insulated sort of reflective bag thing, most expensive bit of kit I own). It works well for weekend camps, not sure how it would do on an expedition but I dont see my self getting to any of the poles any time soon either hehe!
I have a mountain warehouse extreme down bag £150 a sea to summit comfort plus mat soulo tent in well below freezing conditions. I was so surprised when I opened the tent to find it completely white over. I was so snug and warm I just was Was not expecting that
Hey Dan. I paid just under 300 for a Rab Alpine Pro 800. Lightweight, packs down well and incredibly warm. Worth every penny! I still say a good insulated mat is more important, but I don't regret spending that much.
Alpkit Pipedream 400: 1/2 the weight by the sounds of it and similar temperatures: alpkit.com/collections/sleeping-bags/products/pipedream-400 Warning: Once you go Alpkit, you never go back ;-) It's the kit the mountain rescue use.
@@englishwoodsman Just a fan of their gear. It's tested by people who use it day to day. I'm surprised they don't get more airtime on youtube (their staff are excellent too). They aren't cheap. But they are for those "I don't want to have to buy another .... again" purchases."
Yes, but that bag is £100 more than the Leviathan, currently at £119. Have to agree though Alpkit do great gear. I last wild camped over 12 years ago and I think Alpkit was study starting then, but getting great reviews. I bought their head torch at the time
looks a good bag for my son. i bough a north-face inferno couple years ago paid £800, lent it to my mum who damaged it. replaced it with a sea to summit spark 4 hopefully its just as good
@@englishwoodsman it was at the time but i wanted a 4 season bag that i didnt have to replace in a hurry and knew no matter what temp it got to i was warm. was rather gutted when i was going to give it to mu son and it was damaged
For an OEX down bag just over a oner is a bargain dude I gotta rab 900 down bag yeah bout 240 ! But I’ve had 3 years “outdoor heavily sleep”lol I’ve never had a problem with the down being compressed either, if you do bang it in the tumble dryer for five mins and it fluffs right up, pay good prices and look after your stuff will last for years,
The temperature between Christmas and New Year in 2010 was as low as -19. I know I was camping in it. ME sleeping bag with a Rab bivi. I've paid more, much better than that...I've got a Rab Andes 800
Mate my wife said why do I need a winter sleeping bag now it summer, I said if I freeze to death camping in the winter you will not get my wage to spend,,, she told me to go now and get it 😅😅😅😅
Hi matey, I own this sleeping bag and have camped down to -5 Celsius with no issues, stayed warm and cosy, plenty of room as well as I'm 6'2". Definitely a good investment for winter camping.
This is my favourite sleeping bag, it's so warm, I use a dry bag for when I go camping, and can get it down to 20cm x 30cm, as long as you store it at home in the big net bag it will be fine bud 👌👍
Definitely not I would not pay that for a sleeping bag but my carthina observer was my most expensive piece so fare but worth every penny good to see you dan
Wolf's Head i think just over 1100kg. The weight was the reason i bought it. There is a 900 version but its heavier. They have a sale not very often i got mine for about 135
@@englishwoodsman army bags have a centre zip on the winter bag, side zip on the summer bag. I have the newest complete sleep system (winter bag, summer bag, liner and bivy bag) paid £120 for it all brand new in the bags. Its awsome in the cold weather and does away with the need for a tent if its dry or i just take a basha if not. Comes with super strong stuff sacks but combined is quite heavy. I use the summer bagbon its own this time of year and build up as the weather cools down. I've also got an old pat 52 down bag. Again a good bit of kit but bulky to carry. Still a much cheaper option to a branded shop bag.
pmsl dan i payed £300 for my sleep/bag and £400 for my quilt . and yes i would pay more if it kept me warm .im looking into having a sleepingbag made from phd at a cost £750 . i agree thats alot of money but i do feel the cold .i do think this bag will be your fav from now on . down is much better than synthetic in most cases ? atb kev
@@englishwoodsman i do'nt she holds the credit card .lol i was only looking at that bag? not decided yet wether its worth doing or not ? my alpkit bag is ok at mo .i will say this to you dan .swapping from synthetic to down takes some getting used too .because you think its not very thick but it is. wait until you have been tucked up inside it for a while .down bags trap the warm air in better .and they stay warmer for longer atb kev
dont buy a bloody quilt biggest waste of money . their too drafty so dont hold the heat in . that was £400 of ugq quilt waste of money i would sell my tomorrow -0f temp no chance .biggest let down ever lol atb kev
English Woodsman I just store it any old how bro I don’t take any notice if people sayin this sayin that I leave it compressed drape it over my woardrobe door it’s fine m, the big sack you showed it in is the storage sack, did you have a compression sack with it?
@Jeff Hambleton there are normally three EN ratings given with a bag, comfort, lower limit and extreme. The comfort limit is what a standard sized healthy women can sleep in after feeding, with light clothing for 8hrs comfortably without sweating. Lower limit is what a standard sized male could sleep in after eating, lightly dressed for eight hrs without sweating. Extreme temperature limit is a nonsense and should be ignored. American ratings are slightly different than European ratings and some manufacturers such as rab use their own based on their athletes and customer feedback. Most reputable brands have fairly accurate ratings though some lesser brands can be very artistic with their temperature ratings. The fill power, and the down content and bag construction play a big part in proformance. The higher the fill power and the more quality down a bag contains, the better it will loft and the warmer it will insulate you. FP900 or even FP1000 of quality down will be far better than FP600 of feathers at same weight. Going to bed warm with food inside you and a suitably rated sleep mat for the conditions will have a major impact on your bag and sleep comfort. Don't skimp on your mat, it is as important as your bag for winter use. Most folk camping in the UK will never need a deep winter - 15° or more bag most of the time so it is far more cost effective to double bag on those rare occasions where the temps are expected to drop by double didgets (a summer bag inside a tree season bag and perhaps a lightweight bivvi bag with a decent set of dry sleeping only thermals should see most folk all right). Our extremely wet, damp and humid environment dosnt make down the ideal choice if your going to be out for a good few days on end, it looses its efficency once damp, even hydrophobic down. On the upside, weight for warmth and pack size is unparalleled by most synthetic bags though the gap is closing and synthetic holds up to damp a little better. Hope this helps.
Ripped off, I bought my Snugpak elite 4 about ten years ago, used it on Dartmoor, around the Brecon Beacons and in Scotland in December January and February, my favoured time's because there are hardly no other people about and I like the challenging conditions of winter, I've never been cold in it and its still going strong, I paid 80 quid for it, down is warm but highly overrated and overpriced,and if damp you loose all its heat retention.
I am about to buy the Elite 4 Softie ..it looks a great bit of kit for £90. It expands too. A wee bit bulky but who cares .. I want to be warm and I'll not be walking miles and miles. At 62, and not backpacked for over 12 years my legs couldn't walk miles and miles. 2021 will be my first time in a tent for ages. We have a campervan but just use duvets in it, so don't actually own any sleeping bags at the moment.
