‘Stranger Things’ Creators on their 'Kate Bush' Songs and the 2-Part Season 4 | Showrunners Sitdown 

I Don't watch any Netflix tv shows other than stranger things. Are there really more bad shows than good?

@@user-to7fu1xn1e well it matters more on your taste of shows or movies

@@user-to7fu1xn1e making high quality original content isn’t easy so of course there would be more duds than classics. I would highly recommend ozark though if your looking for a new Netflix show to binge!

Lmfao it doesn't make up for all the time I've invested in some of these just to cancel them and keep making shows They should be more like Prime, Prime makes a new show or movie all the time and most of em are always GREAT

@@DatBoiChris420 that’s also true. But I’m just making the point that Stranger Things is one of the best shows Netflix has put out despite there being mostly mediocre original content.

They really are like the George Lucases of this era. The people who are so talented, and the ones who don’t give up.

i think thats almost every show

Exact same thing happened to Sylvester Stallone with Rocky.

feels good as an artist to make those early rejecters feel bad for what they have done

@@spacekitt.n ooooooooooooo iii oo ooooooioiiooiooiiooooiioooo lo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo iya o o ya

they directed 3/7 of volume one, really liked those episodes

@@amanda_2406 yup, can’t wait to see the 2 1/2 hr finale they directed, it’s gonna be madness. Producer Shawn levy who also directs did a great job directed as well, episode 4 “dear billy” was just stellar and extremely well directed. Makes me more excited for Deadpool 3 which he’s directing.

@@puppetmaster8551 yes totally agree!!

❤️

Great series

Yeah exactly and isn’t there a possibility that another door was opened by another number?

Right I don't think Eleven created the shadow dimension itself, but her opening a gateway has begun the process of a mirror reflection of Hawkins taking shape and possibly being frozen in time

absolutely agree, my kneejerk reacton to that questions was: um, no we DON'T know that at ALL!

I think arguments from the text could be made for both interpretations. Not sure what the writers intend, and I don't have an opinion yet on which way I prefer to consider the story, but I think so far the textual evidence itself hasn't really cemented one or the other notion into canon.

@@ItsAsparageese Yeah, none of the explanations theorized make much sense. 001 did not see Hawkins in 1983 (he entered the upside down in the 70s) and Will wouldn't have detailed enough memories of Hawkins to create a replica like we saw of Nancy's room. It's likely we will get more complete answers in Season 5.

They meant the length of time in between seasons coming out. Agreed! We need quality quantity!

Same feeling as HP that they keep living long

yeah

It's literally this generation's Goonies. The Goonies is probably still the greatest kid's MOVIE of all time. All the characters still live with me till this day. Mikey (Bob from ST season 2, RIP), Mouth, Brand, Data, Steph, Andie, and CHUNK will always be the original '80s kids adventure gang. Stranger Things brought back the nostalgia of that time period. So they'll ALSO stick with me from now on. Mike, Eleven, Lucas, Max, Dustin, Will, Nancy, Steve, Robin, Jonathan, now Erica, and RIP Eddie, are all part of the greatest kids ever on screen. They'll never be another group like "the Goonies," 'Stranger Things," "E.T," or "Stand By Me" kids. I just don't I'll ever see it happening again.

Geniuses? Uh ... sure.

@@wadewilson8011 I think the Goonies is a good comp. The Goonies was a show that, despite being objectively awful, was a fun time for young people of the time. That sums up Stranger Things, really. Stranger Things is objectively terrible from a story telling perspective (at least after its first 6 or so strong episodes), but really resonates with nostalgia from the time. I can enjoy Stranger Things still ... so long as I don't think about all the parts of it that make zero sense. So, yeah ... Stranger Things is enjoyable pulp garbage. Fun.

which time stamp?

@@kateturner8124 22:12

oh my god...

no fr ppl be like “i think will might be gay” “yea we know it’s been basically confirmed already” “idk gay ppl didn’t really exist in the 80s so idk”

Wtf aids the 80s watch "Dallas Byars club" also it would be funny if will isn't gay,why does it matter

Yeah almost every character I consider a main character.

I've seen them catching a lot of flack for moving away from the original characters in favor of newer characters, but I agree with u.. I love it.

6 days left

@@user-to7fu1xn1e 3 days

1 day left!!

It's out. Did you like it?

@@MYFAVORITES5 it was AWESOME

they obviously have, stranger things has a lot of writing inconsistencies, still they’re very good writers and directors

@@prod.byricky1040 all shows have inconsistencies.

Shows that smashed it: The Sopranos. Breaking Bad. Ozark. OSTNB. Oz. BCS. SOA. Squid Games. The Walking Dead and GoT didn't stick the landing. But their first 5 seasons were second to none. Anime: Attack on Titan. Hunter x Hunter. Demon Slayer.

@@wadewilson8011 my comment is directed directly at the “they haven’t put one foot wrong in the process of writing” part, which they obviously have

@@wadewilson8011 your list has most of my favorites shows, imo The Boys is up there, The Last Kingdom is also a very good show

i have the biggest crush on him

he’s a little genius

One of those child actors who is so famous that he could’ve gone down a weird path, but he just chills with his band and casually kills it in every role he does. Mad respect for Finn

He is good but imo the best of the teen actors is Noah.

@@TheLudwigWan I agree! Noah is INCREDIBLE and deserves so much more recognition!!

my sentiments exactly.

Just saying it out loud now :)

IM SO HAPPY

same

I really hope they don't make mike get with will. That would be so weird

Yes she is very gay, and loves gay things and gay people

I think it's Kate Arthur? It says in the description

@GiGi Wheeler Kate Arthur.

lmfao 💀

Very good interview! You go girl!

I totally agree, but still if you make an effort to rewatch the S4 volume 1, you will see that it's so lame and the plot is so dragged and there are so many unnecessary scenes and literally no reason for the extension of the longevity of episodes (I mean 80 minutes-long episodes are too much). Don't get me wrong, I love the show, but it feels too dragged

Agreed. I've watched it 5 times and fall in love with it even more. But that will change if Steve dies!!

@@user-to7fu1xn1e You do have a point. And i did watch it twice. Its also the time they put into the graphics, we got to see the Demogorgan really fight and attack, we only got glimpses of him in season 1. I think i understand why it seems lame, it was done intentionally. Remember the setting is in the 80's, things weren't as fast paced as now. And we now get to see why the upside down was created. Why the upside down is stuck in time. The playback of when 11 was at the lab, she had forgotten the reason why she escaped, she blamed herself for a massacre she did not do herself. She was trying to be kind to 001 and he turned out to be a murderous psychopath. We didn't really have this information from the beginning. And the fact that its darker and more scary, just makes me think its the best season. Because we really were scared by old legends when we were younger. We'd not wanna sleep with lights off lol and i feel it has that effect.

@@user-to7fu1xn1e I personally disagree with that, don’t feel like it dragged much and thought they did a very good job splitting time between all the different groups. The episodes are very long yes but I think that was necessary to tell the story they needed and to do the characters Justice, if anything I think the longer runtimes were a big positive for the season so far.

@@puppetmaster8551 I agree 100% I loved the long runtimes especially seeing the runtimes for volume 2 I can’t wait I thought the length of time for episodes were definitely 100% necessary it left more room to tell the story and tbh to me it did not drag much at all for me honestly the episodes went by fast for me

I love how they're big fans of Jaws and Halloween.

I’m hella curious as to what the hell that spin off show could be 🤔

These brothers don't look alike at all

@@user-to7fu1xn1e why is that relevant to this comment at all? But i slightly disagree, they look a wee bit similar, just have dissimilar styles

that’s what I was thinking too! They still have time to edit his death scene out if that’s the case lmao

apparently joe is contracted for season 5 so hopefully he doesn't die

@@A_4814 yeah that’s not how that works…

😭

He did and I’ve been crying for 19-20 hours

He ain’t dying at all they can’t do this

@@02sideshow fingers crossed!

what is the time stamp

Yup and anyone who thinks that is an idiot who doesn't understand the actual significance of that episode, and if they STILL don't then they have 0 hope of understanding anything about the show in general. Absolutely none of what you said is true, the vibe is different for a reason, i mean literally LOOK at what El is doing and going through in that episode. Pay attention to the story ffs

I loved that episode. I've been waiting for the sister to reappear and when I saw the spiders in season 4, I suspected her, remembering the spider stunt she pulled with that one guy. But no. Maybe we'll see more of her in season 5. Anyhow, I think that episode gave more depth to El's backstory which was important. Also, that was the first time we got to see that there are more like El, and what that might mean. It was obvious that there were but we hadn't seen them before.

@@kaisanuolioja8937 you're absolutely right and kali making axel see spiders was no accident either, that episode is filled with foreshadowing of S4 & that's why it's so important, it's also the only episode where we see brenner, although it was an illusion it was still telling of what was to come. too many people don't seem to understand that tho, and hate it because none of the other characters are in it.

The brothers have said that they did that episode for themselves. They wanted to explore some things they couldn’t explore in the show overall. They saw it as a pilot episode of sorts.

If you look at some of the greatest works of fiction, many were by a duo of brothers. The Duffers. The Coen. The Russos. The Hughes. And Wachowskis... I guess 'SISTERS' now? Have all done legendary works of fiction.

They should add a flashback in season 5 where Will's mother ask if will want her to throw a b-party. Where Will says no his friends will come up with something. then que in the sad scene in season 4 boom its fix and it makes sense

I guess they didn't just forgot There is something make them forget that day

It also gives me Buffy the Vampire Slayer vibes.

And The Dark Knight Trilogy as well

My son was saying the same thing haha

I was 7 when 1980 rolled around and the whole decade was just magical. There was optimism, happy times far more than sad and the music was just so well written. There was no political correctness, nobody was a ''victim'' and free speech was just the norm. I miss it all especially the colour and vibrancy when '70s drab fell away so fast. It's like we are living on a different planet now where scientists are being fired for saying things like there are only two genders Male and Female. We are living in a time where you can be prosecuted for making a sound scientific claim where the TRUTH isn't allowed to be told. If I knew what was to come when I was in the 80s I wouldn't ever believe it but here we are and the young kids today have no idea that life was not like this whatsoever:(

Yes!!!

Luckily all that's probably left in editing is touching up CG visual effects & making small creative choices for which effects are used. Decision oriented work instead of task oriented, so no major time concerns

They hear about the crazy stuff and see it on the news, but they just live normal lives oblivious to the chaos

I didn't know i wanted this until now 😂😂😂😂

Isn't it March 22? Why did they change it?

@@user-to7fu1xn1e cuz they forgot about it in s4

​@@user-to7fu1xn1e In season 4, they use March 22nd as the day they went to the roller-rink, and no one mentions it, so they make it seem like everyone just forgot Will's birthday which would be extra sad on top of how sad it already was for him lol But it was unintentional, they'd forgotten they picked that as his birthday before.

at what minute is it in?

This would make sense if it made sense

@@wxldfl4wer850 will has been closeted and shamed for being gay since youth. He was the perfect trauma victim for Vecna to infect early on. The rainbow room is where the first gate appeared. If 001 gets destroyed and Will vanishes immediately at that point is yet to be seen. But its likely 001 was banished and then Will disappeared the next morning no?

I like to think that Brenner survived the Demorgorgon the exact same way Jonathan did. Remember, the Demorgogron was about to "eat" Jonathan and then Nancy shot it multiple times. Well, there multiple armed soldiers next to Brenner who could have done the same thing as Nancy did.

@@speedy3702 yea in s2 when eleven is stuck in the upside down you see hawkins guards patrolling the school

Would be great for superfans of the show, not sure how it would be received by the general public who watch it mainly as a sci-fi

​@@rabbitguy a lot of people would probably enjoy spending more time with the characters without the sci fi chaos that happens if the writing is as good as freaks and geeks, (the characters/actors are) they could've and should've done it after season 3 call it season 3.5 having it released during the pandemic with no vfx/quick turnaround but doing that now would kill any momentum that season 4 has brought and by the time filming starts the kids will be seniors in 1989 so it wouldnt be much like freaks and geeks anymore. Season 3 was originally going to be their freshman season before they made it a summer blockbuster removing a school as the show's familiar backdrop

i considered "Freaks And Geeks" my favorite tv show for years and probably till do. but man half the people involved with the show i cant stand now.

Yes!! And My So Called Life!!

I LOVE THAT SHOW OMFG

the actors fit perfectly in each role it's crazy it's like they were destined for it