‘The Conservatives will never recover’ | Dominic Grieve 

They Should NEVER EVER Come Back...

They aren’t “Conservatives” that’s their problem.

The Tories will do nothing but fight between themselves and reform. No way back for a long long time.

We don't want them to come back. They showed their incompetence and corruption for all to see.

James Cleverly - the man who proves that Nominative Determinism is a nonsense

Most of us may never recover from what the Tories have done.🚪

Being the next Tory leader. Is like becoming the Captain of the Titanic !

"Turn our attention to the Conservatives" rather implies it was once directed in another direction. I must have missed that episode.

Finished party! I,ll never return to the treasonous party again!!!! Trust is broken for EVER!

Cleverly is a joke - I hope he is elected Leader.

It's all one and the same establishment party being talked about by one media.

The question is: Will Britain ever recover?

I don't think they ever will recover the leadership contestants prove that.

If you want to have kids then don't expect other people to pay for them

Here's is the reason why the Conservative party will not recover for generations. I've taken the following directly word for word from the Conservative manifesto and data from the Office for National statistics: 2010 Immigration 604,000, emigration 339,000, net migration 256,000 Conservative manifesto: "We will take steps to take net migration back to the levels of the 1990s - tens of thousands a year, not hundreds of thousands." 2015 Immigration 664,000, emigration 334,000, net migration 329,000 Conservative manifesto: "Our commitment to you: keep our ambition of delivering annual net migration in the tens of thousands, not the hundreds of thousands" "We will tackle people trafficking and exploitation. We will ease pressure on public services and your local community. We will protect British values and our way of life. We will promote integration and British values" 2017 Immigration 644,000, emigration 395,000, net migration 249,000 Conservative manifesto: "We will reduce and control immigration." "But with annual net migration standing at 273,000, immigration to Britain is still too high. It is our objective to reduce immigration to sustainable levels, by which we mean annual net migration in the tens of thousands, rather than the hundreds of thousands we have seen over the last two decades". 2019 Immigration 772,000, emigration 553,000, net migration 219,000 Conservative manifesto: "There will be fewer lower-skilled migrants and overall numbers will come down. And we will ensure that the British people are always in control." 2022: Immigration 1,257,000, emigration 493,000, net migration 764,000. 2023: Immigration 1,218,000, emigration 532,000, net migration 686,000. (provisional estimate) Keep in mind that those entering are usually foreign and those leaving are often British. Also note that provisional figures are usually underestimates. ONS data shows that only 15% come in on 'skilled' work visas, meaning 85% have no job and come in as dependents etc. They are a net drain on the economy, going into low paid jobs and take more out of the system than they put in. This demolishes the 'skilled workers argument'. Even most of those who do come in on 'skilled workers' visa, turn out not to be skilled but end up in low paying jobs. Some use fraudulent certificates of qualification, (there's a thriving business in fraudulent nursing qualification from Nigeria, which was recently exposed). 42% of the 10 million foreign born residents in this country came in the last decade. Since New labour came to power 26 years ago we have had more immigration into this country than the previous 2,000 years combined! (I'm not saying Labour and LibDems would any better, I'm just pointing out why voting for any of the main parties will do nothing to stop the flow). The actions of all main political parties have blatantly undermined democracy.

THE WHOLE NATION HAS BEEN WELL AND TRULY ~~~ SUNAKED.

This interviewer is very annoying ...... let the guy finish a sentence !

They will never recover from 14 years of total incompetence.

Dominic Grieve may one of the most sane (or least insane) conservatives, but holding Cleverly in 'high regard' is genuinely crazy.

"If we don't continue being just as we were under Sunak we'll never be elected again." With geniuses like this in the Tory party no wonder it's disappearing.

Cleverly competant ? based on what ?

Wherever there is wealth, there will be conservatives.

Never say never. It will probably be two Labour terms before they are viable again.

Absolutely hate interviewers who keep interrupting, and think they have more interesting things to say than the person they are interviewing. Carol whatshername IS more intelligent than most younger journalists, but Grieve is definitely more intelligent than she is.

As a Tory voter since 1959 I have to agree with Dominic,if he Liberals,greens and reform continue to I'll well I don,t see them ever forming a government ever again except in a coalition.

Cockroaches always survive

Where do Labour get the money for child benefit ..... The Chancellor congratulates the King on his Crown Estates windfall and then says...windfall tax your Maj...

They will never get it, they are doomed :)

Happy days. Never again 👍🏻

Of course they will recover. The same thing was said about the Tories after the 1997 Labour landslide, about Labour after Thatcher beat Foot and Boris beat Corbyn just 5 years ago. If the Tories remain a centre right party then it will be the labour party that has most to fear from Reform. There are plenty of traditional labour supporting working class people tired of mass and illegal migration and the potential of ever increasing welfare payments to neerdowells

Stop blithering on about the Con party, they are toast

Spot on Dominic. They reflect their evolved position of incompetence, corruption and greed. The faces on offer are familiar in this context. Can they be a credible opposition? More of the same; and further decline seems likely.

Dude thinks Thatcher was a centrist 🤡

That’s why Starmer needs to keep a grip on extremities of his party . The Economy is paramount

Ive also had horrible dreams in the last 14 years,Im out on the streets,Homeless,After all the worry its done to me,Home sweet home at last,Also get on with my Jobs as well

Good. They should never be allowed back into power after what they did with lockdowns. Grieve is also part of the problem - his sneering, metropolitan elitist attitude, blocking Brexit, claiming to "be the only adult in the room" - is what also contributed to the Tories downfall.

Politician says the only way for a party to win is for it to follow his preferred policies.

Starmer is doing such a good job any of these are embarrassing

If they reopen the mines, the children could return to work.

As long as the former AG doesn't stand as a candidate for leader they may yet hold some credibility .

The 2 child policy is to stop families having loads of kids that push them further into poverty. Can’t people see that a limitless cap will increase long term poverty. Also, is is the state’s duty to pay for uncontrolled lusts of a few? No.

For every 10 elderly Tories who die, how many new elderly will switch to Tory as seems to be the fashion🤔2?3?

The Tories have three choices. Out Labour the socialist Labour party? Out Lib/dem the woke LibDems? Or stand down and let Reform deliver on their promises ☑️

🌟 Your speaker suggests that the conservative party should move back to the centre right, where does he think the party was when so many million voters turned their backs on the conservatives? The middle ground no man’s land, it’s dead space. Talk about policies, not left/right positioning. ✌️🇬🇧

Who is going to trust the tories again

Dominic Greive. Terriobly self righteous and frankly not very helpful. Definitely a new labour conservative.

STOP THE TOFFS!

700 million pounds wasted and no-one sent to Rwanda.

Because Reform took a large part of the Tories supporters... Helping the labour in a big way for life... Probably all deliberate.... Because the labour is only a name not a party we knew...It is a new party and a police state pro mass migration and the coming European army mianly made of asylum and refugees to back up the police during the expected Europe spring....and also an army to replace the 2.5 millions Ukrainian and foreign fighters killed ans injured by the Russian military... This is what many experts are saying...

why bother having a guest on if all the interviewer does is interrupt. there was more time of her speaking than the guest.

Comforting to hear that the toxic Tories will never be in power again.

Dominic Grieve's "centre" is everyone in the real world's "left". The future looks bleak for the Tories

none of those mentioned to be party leader.

I hate these shirt sleeves bloody politicians, they really think it makes them look ready for work!

I guess he's now out of that race ;)

If only that were true.

'The Conservatives will never recover’ | Dominic Grieve , and who is responsible for this Dominic?

To make a come back the need to get back to the right of centre and get rid of globalism. We need more populism in Britain. Vote Reform UK

‘The Conservatives will never recover’ I'll drink to that. BUT...Big but. The Right in the UK will come together eventually and it can win unwarranted majority power again based on 30 odd % of the electorate which it could certainly achieve. Unless we bring in proper PR voting and the UK's default becomes centrist to centre left.

Tories can get back in government in no time, all they have to do is kiss Cur Kid Starver's ring & they're welcome.

just leave the undemocratic ECHR NOW PLEASE.

Tories are finished ...labour are finished shortly as well ...both parties know that ..but theyre getting as much as they can whilst they still can . .

‘The Conservatives will never recover’ Good.

Grieve - who I like - is wrong about the Tories' ability to win back art least a large portion of Reform voters without lurching to the right. I know many former Tory voters who voted for Reform as an absolute protest vote against Tory corruption and incompetence. These are people who could not bring themsleves to vote Labour or for the Lib Dems, but know Farage for what he is. Build a new Tory party based on centre-right policies, honesty, transparency and competence and the Tories will be fine. Dont and they wont be.

Dominic Grieve doesn't know left from right. Or is he just redefining where centre is to suit his views?

Is this the first time that Times Radio might be right?

We won't have a country in a couple of years

Labour and the Lib Dems have learned from their painful defeats of the past, and just as they did at the GE, they will seek to appeal to as wide a spectrum of voters as possible, which will include endorsing policies that 'spill over' into the traditional right of centre 'Tory voter zone', so that even if the Conservatives do ever come back to their senses, they may never reclaim many of those voters. The FPTP electoral system has traditionally been 'kind' to the Tories, because the centre, and left of centre of British Politics, has usually been a political 'battle-zone' between the Lib Dems and Labour, who often cancelled each other out at GEs in such a way that the Tories (as the only right-wing party), could just 'waltz in' and win Seats from them both - but not anymore!

Where to get 3bn ? Are you serious?

Labour and Conservative look exactly the same

All my life I was voting conservative with a small c. Brexit and its right wing lurch with lots of extreme right wing views has put right off them! Let’s hope Dominic is correct and they move away from these right wing idiots!

I have three kids and there is a definite economies of scale from the third which means the benefit should be a sliding scale rather than a consistent amount per child and it should also be means tested

So Dominic doesn't really know Tom because he wants to withdraw from the ECHR

RUBISH said the same of Tories AND Labour And Lib Dems (ah yes)

LEAVE echr NOW#.

Not a word of which could not have been said every time Labour wins.

Good, reform are the proper conservative party now

Oh how Delicious!

Yes Doninic. Let's have a centre "right" Tory party that is indistinguishable from Labour. That's really going to work. 😜

The drive from Cornwall to London is possible without touching blue, how do the Tories think the answer to this is moving to the right?

Starmer should bring in PR quickly - that will split the Tories and no coalition will ever have to include the nutjobs.

The Tories have already abandoned Conservatism and most of their voters have already abandoned them. They are a left wing woke party competing with another left wing woke party ie Labour. That is why voters have gone across to Reform who will get stronger as the Tories gradually decline. Trying to patch the holes in the remnants of the Tories will simply hasten the decline. A new leader is irrelevant.

You can tell it's painful for her to jear criticism of the Tories.

I disagree...it's bad, but _"Never say never..."_🤚

1. I am not brit. 2. If i was i would vote Lib Dems or Labour. 3. Tory party has deep roots & history and it will recover. In 10 years

Who’s the bird in the split skirt flirting with Rishi?

TRUST FOR GOVERNMENT'S AND PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY'S IS GONE FOREVER..

#REFORM

Could Labour's divisions give the Tories a chance?

It would seem, post Brexit, that the Tory party are now targeting leaving the ECHR . Worrying, leaving UK citizens at the mercy of our government deciding what human rights we should be entitled to.

My god how old is this interviewer..80 ?

We will be voting Reform

He cannot prove that Reform UK's manifesto is not pragmatic and workable.

Reform next election

Is Grieve still alive....That's a shame....

What ever party you vote for the U.K. is a centralist, liberal democracy. As a Labour voter I’m not interested in the far left and Conservatives should reject going further right

Labour is now occupying the centre ground. The tories can only go further right, which voters don't want. Doomed.

Please don’t tease us

An 8 minute video - the only worthwhile moment being the sight of a nice blonde lady (flashing thigh) at the 4.45 mark. Grieve has nothing to offer - his ilk destroyed the party.

Bring back Boris