Guys thanks for 190K views ❤ and plz stop saying ‘where was Gondor when titanic sank’ and ‘it’s not founder it’s flounder’flounder is a type of fish and if they say titanic will flounder it means titanic will be a fish 😂😂😂
@@MenteMaestra91 just because someone pissed in your cheerios does not mean you have to be a jerk. this is youtube. Do you know how often this happens? Clearly not, that would require the use of your brain.
In reality, Ismay and everyone else at White Star was well aware that the Titanic wasn't invulnerable. The "unsinkable" line was spread by the press, not the company; they had already lost several ships over the years, and certainly weren't stupid enough to make a claim that could turn into such a PR disaster if it was disproved.
@@jeffschueler1182agreed. Even Foghorn Leghorn states it clearly "Two half nuthins is a whole nuthin! You can argue with me but you can't argue with figures!"
@@jeffschueler1182 It did lie actually. Titanic took a lot more time than Andrews anticipated, he did not calculate for certain. Math is just full numbers, but people decide the value of those numbers. Whatever you calculate, it was Titanic's architecture and personnel's efforts that made sure that ship did not sink in such a short time. Math does not calculate everything and does not care for circumstances. That is why we have physics and physic formulas which is better.
Likely because it made an impact on you because of the irony of how it played out. The first tape ended with a confirmation that the ship was going to end, the beginning of the second tape was the beginning of the end.
Titanic was released on VHS in September 1998. Due to its runtime of over three hours, the movie was split across two VHS tapes. I’ve never seen a version presented on a single VHS tape. Later, when the movie was released on DVD, the entire film could fit onto a single disc.
and dont forget mr ismay! before this he was a butler to the richest kid on earth, he then became a big game hunter but after the ship sunk he joined an exhibition in egypt to find the lost city of hamunaptra releasing an undead horror
@@jack1701eLike Gandalf if Gandalf had got lost because of temperature inversions and aurora borealis interference, and had arrived at noon instead of dawn to save a grand total of 3 soldiers and a bunch of people in the caves while everyone else who fought had already been cut down.
@@dominicchallis2928 The Carpathia never got lost. She was too far away to reach the Titanic in time when she received the distress signal. She broke her own top speed, navigated through an ice field, and basically wrote the book on sea rescue on the fly.
I like how Andrews says “she can stay afloat with the first 4 compartments breached, but not 5, not 5.” He emphasizes that to Smith, and Smith immediately understands the deeper meaning behind it, and that not everyone is going to make it off.
Look at Camerons subtle direction and camera work. You can barely tell that hes working his magic. All of the tension is coming from these great performances
@lolzlolz102 I think that's Chief Officer Wilde... I only remember him showing up twice in the movie, the other time is when Lightoller asks if they should start boarding the lifeboats. And both times he has that look 🤣🤣
After being asked how long, Victor Garber bobbing his head up and down as he scans each bulkhead on the map, gives a great impression of doing the math of how long it will take. No calculators back then. It was a great moment of acting there.
Yup, doesn't respond instantly, but is going off of what they were told of the damage and how fast the water flooded the compartments. Even a rough estimate is enough to communicate the urgency that is going to be required to evacuate.
Thomas Andrews designed that ship with pencils, rulers, protractors, a drafting table and a slide rule. Not a computer on the face of the Earth. Still, he should have known better than to not order 48 extra boats and to not design the bulkheads to go all the way up. Ismay was leaning on him to save money. He should have told Ismay to go to Hell.
@@misterwhipple287048 extra boats onboard would have meant the Titanic would have sank with 48 boats still tied to the deck, if anything their presence would have slowed the evacuation down by getting in the way. With the manual Wellin Davits the crew didn't have time to launch all 20 boats they did have. For the raised bulkheads that's very true but that was a case of passenger and crew convenience moving easily through the ship versus safety. Before Titanic sank the whole maritime industry thought modern ships safety was already ample.
@@misterwhipple2870 I thought by now everyone knew, that Titanic actually had more boats than regulations of the time required. Boats at the time were supposed to ferry you from a sinking ship to another one coming to help, not to take on everyone on board.
@@HDreamer Yawn, snore, zzzzzzzzzzzzzz . . . yessss, everyone knows that the Board of Trade only REQUIRED the Titanic to provide boats for 964 people and that White Star was so incredibly safety-minded and generous that they actually provided room for 1,170, BUTTTTTTT they had the room on board to carry more than 4,000 people! What kind of sh*t-head do you have to BE to have a gap like that?? If they had equipped the ship the way it was designed, they would have had 64 lifeboats instead of 16, and they would have had room for 4,096. All Ismay had to do was PAY FOR another 48 boats. They stacked like cereal bowls, and the davits were already designed to hold them. And as for that "ferry you" bullsh*t, what if the other ship was A THOUSAND MILES AWAY???? And what if your ship SINKS?????? Oops . . .
I can not begin to describe how much it sucks to be the smartest one in the room (or ship in this case), the one person who understands how literally everything works and having to give the bad news that there is nothing that can be done to stop total failure. It is a feeling of helplessness that no one should ever feel.
And when he knows that if they'd built the ship to his original design, she would have been able to limp the rest of the way to New York without too much trouble.
I love how even though the Captain knows there are not enough life boats for everyone, and that he will thus die, he doesn't break down but instead composes himself to organise the evacuation. A true hero, and rest in peace Bernard Hill.
Funny to see the (recently) late Bernard Smith playing the captain when you've seen him as Yosser Hughes in the 1980's. Two characters that were poles (and decades) apart.
There is a stark contrast when comparing this scene to its equivalent in the first Titanic film - A Night to Remember. In the latter it is all calm, stiff upper lip as if he is delivering a lecture to his favourite students!!
@@mattep74 The captain of the Carpathia was a bloody legend. And the survivors of Titanic were very lucky the Marconi man on Carpathia was the kind of guy who'd check his work email before bed today.
Humanities hubris in one damn sentence. Imagine believing (as a man of faith to boot) that GOD HIMSELF can't send endless tonnes of iron straight to Davy Jones.
I love how in the first half of the movie there are all these grand shots of the ship, and then about a minute before the iceberg appears we get a view from a mile+ up and the ship is just this tiny string of lights on the vast ocean.
I just love how there's no music in this scene; completely silent. It's like they knew you don't even need music in a scene like this to understand the seriousness of the situation.
I vividly remember how the end of this very scene was when you have to take out the DVD and put in the 2nd disc to watch the rest of the movie. Right when this video stops there was a brief pause and then it was straight back to the main menu.
Thomas Andrews portrayed with a southern Irish accent, despite being brought up in Northern Ireland... terrible faux pas by the film-makers, akin to having a Bostonian speak with a southern drawl.
Kinda sucks for that one dude that walked in AFTER everyone else found out the ship was sinking. You know the dude walked in and was like "I went out to get a peice of the iceberg. What'd I miss?"
The Titanic could remain afloat if any two compartments or any three of the first five compartments were breached, but the designers played it safe and made it so that the Titanic could remain afloat with four of the first five compartments breached. By an evil irony, exactly five compartments were breached, no more and no less than what was needed for the disaster.
Not to be a downer, but six compartments were breached. But, at the time that this scene would have taken place it would have been enough for them to realize their fate.
The Titanic was build to remain afloat with the first four compartments breached. In fact, compartments 1 and 6 where breached a little bit, and 2 to 5 heavily. "build to remain afloat" means, when the ship stands still. An airplane is built not to fly when it stands still. An airplane flies only when it moves. If Titanic moves backwards, the water pressure pushes up the lower part of the ship like water ski. Moving the ship increases therefore the number of compartments that can be breached. Titanic would have stayed afloat as long as it had moved backwards at high speed. At the horizon where the lights of the Californian. It was a huge mistake not to move the ship backwards in this direction.
@@jfangm It would have been really bad for the those in the first and maybe second compartments and a lot more would have injured by the initial impact. But as long as the shockwave from the impact didn't cause the other compartments to flood then I'm not sure how it would have sunk.
This really happened, imagine being the captain of the largest ship in the world and being told by the man who built her she will sink. Smith would’ve known at least 1000 people will die on his watch. I can’t fathom how you can react to that.
When I was in theater, the film starts and my GF at that time : Honey isnt that wonderfull here watching the movie Me : NO ! that god damm ship sinks and I have to watch it for 3 hours Theater laughed and I sleeped alone that night!
Gradual fade out to 73 years later as a grainy, black and white image of a Titanic boiler slowly comes into view on a TV monitor on a research ship 2 miles above.
Hands down one of the bravest decisions to of been made, was when captain smith gave the order to abandon ship. Just have a second or two to think about his decision to not only abandon the ship but his own fate was sealed and doomed also. He knew he was going down with it. Being dead is easy,knowing you’re going to be dead soon, must be terrifying. 💔
This scene reminds me also of the one in the Chernobyl series where the character played by Jared Harris is explaining to Gorbachev and the Soviet leadership the scale of the disaster and you see that moment where they're all processing it and realizing it was not only going to be worse, but much worse than what they imagined possible.
One of the best scenes in the film. Apparently if they just hit the iceberg dead on they'd probably not have sunk. The front of the ship would have let water in but not enough compartments to sink the ship.
This is good dialogue. No quips that break the tension. No silly interjection or stupid phrase to lower the stakes. No. The boat is gonna sink and everybody is screwed. Brilliant. It’s hilarious you gotta point that out now because movies are so horribly written nowadays by hacks that try to shove woke messages into everything that make no sense whatsoever.
When the Captain suggest using pumps but Mr Andrews say that it will only give minutes only, sorry I'm not a ship engineer but what pump equipment is he referring to and what is it's purpose?
The entirety of history seems to have done Ismay wrong. They needed a villain, and slimy William Randolph Hearst used his news empire to smear him due to an old grudge.
All movies need a villain. The same was true of Cinderella Man. Max Baer was heartbroken over accidently killing his opponent in the ring, but the movie made him out to be a villain to make the victory more satisfying.
He was telling a story. Cameron has expressed his regret about the portrayal of some of the people in the film, about how he feels they didn't always take into account that they were portraying not simply characters but real people. His biggest one he regrets is making Murdoch accidentally shoot someone and then shoot himself when there is not evidence he did that. Cameron has since said that one of his biggest changes would be to make that a random unamed character rather than Murdoch.
@@bronwynschoer8039 He may've been telling a story but he was perpetrating the myth a J. Bruce Ismay. Remember much or the blackguarding of Ismay's character was due to William Randolph Hearst who had some sort of petty grudge against Ismay.
So many what ifs,, what if the lookout crew in the crow's nest had binoculars, what if the officer on duty had ordered the ship to slow down while the captain slept, Around 120 ice reports were made between April 1st and April 14th and their positions showed a dense icefield that was moving southward towards the shipping lanes.
Binoculars would have changed nothing, slowing the ship down any more probably wouldn't have changed much because it was already going pretty slowly and they went pretty far off course southwards to avoid icebergs.
Mr Ismay: “you must call for aid!” Captain Smith: “and who would come? The British? The Americans? No. We are not so lucky in our friends as you. We are alone.
From this moment, no matter what we do, it will founder. But this ship can't sink! It's made of iron, sir. I assure you it can, and it will. It's a mathematical certainty.
