The people who are complaining the loudest are generally the ones who aren't actually watching the product, this kinda goes for all forms of entertainment
This is why I never took any of the Jey Uso slander seriously. Anybody that was watching thru that original bloodline saga understands the Jey Uso character and why he is so loved.
@@erickenneycreativeI agree all Jey really does now is pop up have a good entrance say his catchphrase maybe have a mid match then leave, no hate towards Jey he can be great the Bloodline saga proved it he just feels like a cringey joke to me
That answer about Jey Uso was 100 % dead on. That is why we all love Jey. We all evolved emotionally with him and still do. People with this garbage about move sets is ridiculous. No one had problem with this move set when he was in 3 main events with Roman Reigns.
@@BillLyons-qx5qk I agree. I will say if I was his match producer, I’d tell him to stop the super kicks. Maybe tell him to start using The Rock bottom as a finisher and do monkey flips out of the corner to set up his splash. If you are gonna say Yeet, you may as well toss dudes around. Lol
@@TheUnluckyConqueror3699 As long as he is tossing dudes.👍 I just imagine like a Stalled Rock Bottom. Almost like Samoa Joe’s Uranage slam. Joe always held them up for just a second before tossing them. It’d be a perfect place for the crowd to chant yeet before Jey slams opponents down.
Jey Uso is getting loved because of the superstar presentation too. I got my lil cousin into wrestling some months ago and his favorite wrestler is Jey without him knowing about his bloodline story
Jey Uso was the best part of the best story in the history of wrestling and the story became more about Jey than most of the characters involved. That's why he's loved, because we all know he is great
STEVE!!! I appreciate and I do like this answer. I apologize for wording my original comment in such a rude way - I was lost in my pro wrestling fan anger. It means a lot to me that you answered me and took the time to write out a full answer on this. I indeed will be going back and watching closer and paying deeper attention. You have changed my mind on many things pro wrestling and I’m open to this being another. Said this on the original comment when you replied to me but man I appreciate and love you and Larson’s content so much. You guys have gotten me through some tough times with your personality and wrestling commentary. I appreciate you dude. Thanks for taking the time to make such a full and eloquent response.
Bro if you want to watch the Roman/Jey fued that led to the bloodline forming I have 2 videos that helped catch me up to speed when the Sami Uso stuff started I tagged you in a comment already but if you don’t get a noti It’s The Bloodline Full Story | Part 1 - “Main Event Jey Uso” on a channel called @marvinloveswrestling
Naah in opposite he is the worst have you not seen when in bloodline he is the one who breaks the character most even though many times there is nothing that much to laugh he laughs like when roman grab him in hold and trash talk in there first match back in 2020 he cant be serious just a comedy character nothing more
The only reason I don't love Jey Uso is because he and Rhea Ripley haven't made a mixed-tag team called "Brutali-YEET" yet, and I am endlessly disappointed by that.
Bad Bloodline isnt as impactful because they're the ones chasing Cody, Kevin and Randy. It was the opposite with the Original Bloodline. They were king of the castle. If Solo doesnt have gold, nobody cares. They need go to war with EVERYONE on SD.
I can accept that people like Jey, even if I am not a big Fan. I like some wrestlers others dont love, like Shayna Baszler, cant even explain it😂. Jey was good on this weeks RAW, though
It's not difficult to understand why someone would like Shayna Baszler. A dangerous MMA fighter who is in pro-wrestling to simply punish anyone who stands in her path. One of the greatest NXT Women's Champions ever. Even if Helmsley tries his level best to make his former NXT alumni look like an idiot, her legitimacy as a great wrestler can be easily seen
I think Jey Uso is a good worker. His time as the "Right Hand Man" during the early Bloodline saga around the time he won the Andre Battle Royal I considered him a top-3 wrestler in the world.
Jey Uso detractors seem to forget all the equity he earned with the fans by being part of one of the best teams ever in The Usos. It’s not like they just dropped him into the bloodline with no context. He’s busted his ass to genuinely connect with the people year after year, and now he’s deservedly getting his flowers after putting in killer performance after killer performance and carrying Roman’s weight and gravitas with him on SmackDowns in the early 2020s when Roman wasn’t on TV.
I feel like most of the negetive opinions of Jey Uso comes from his wrestlmania match. I get it that match was bad, but Jey is not a bad worker, He is no AJ Styles, but he is nowhere near the worst worker on Raw. Jey Uso deserves his position and deserves to be a singles champion. He also deserves better booking. Also Also, A lot of champions from years past were not good in the ring.
Good explanation on Jey Uso. I watched the entire Bloodline Saga up until this last Wrestlemania. I still agree with the person that asked the question. Dude is no better on the mic than Ricochet. Not awful, just nothing special. Dude is above serviceable in the ring. But, nothing interesting. I get why he would be popular, just not this level of popularity. But, hey. Good for him. I'm always happy for anybody that can get over in the business even if they're somebody that I don't really care for.
@@gustavoclarindo101 Ricochet gets entirely too much hate for his mic work. Is he Punk? No. But, he's not out there talking about the genesis of McGillicutty either.
@@gernblanston2652 I do agree that Ricochet is decent, the thing is Jey is way above just decent. He is good doing serious and comedy promos, can do promos alone or against people, can have good interactions with everyone, the way he projects his voice, how he gets the crowd going, how natural he sounds, it never feels like he is trying to remember lines
@@gustavoclarindo101 this is one of those different strokes kind of situations. I agree that he's really good on the mic when it's a Bloodline promo or if he's solo. If it's not a Bloodline related promo or if he's talking to anybody else I just find the promo kind of awkward because I don't feel his delivery meshes well with anyone else. He doesn't match his sparring partner. He's doing what he normally does and the other person is doing what they normally do and, to me, it's just oil and water.
god forbid someone is bringing energy and charisma and SWAGGGG to pro wrestling. i think it’s the same criticism swerve gets sometimes, i think white fans are not used to representations of black culture and it makes them uncomfortable if i’m being honest.
I love Swerve he's absolutely the man but to me Jey just cringey Yeet died a death in like 2018 I really don't need to have it revived in 2024 honestly I think he's missing that singles experience in the ring and he just feels like such a mid card goof and then he beats the more serious people on the roster with potential and I'm just like but why did the he need to be the guy Jey beat
It's so funny that I just photoshopped YEET glasses onto Rhea and Damian like 2 hours ago then I see this thumbnail and it was posted 2 hours ago. Holy crap :D
You actually didn’t get my name wrong at all Steve, which is very impressive because I don’t think I’ve left a question since I was briefly able to be a Patreon a couple years ago. I always felt bad that I wasn’t able to keep it going because I thoroughly enjoy what you guys do! I’m particularly really impressed by this channel because I never really had anybody to do wrestling stuff with, but I’ve always wanted to do my own wrestling podcast, but I figured nobody wants to hear anybody talk by themselves, but you actually make me think I could do it properly if I get the right equipment so I might be inspired to give it another go. i’ll do better about leaving feedback. I do agree with what you said about you have to turn your brain off with AEW booking. The company is great and Tony is clearly a fan of professional wrestling obviously but yeah, he’s definitely out of touch when it comes to booking which I don’t get because some of the stuff is really great but others it’s like what the hell are you doing?! Anyway yeah the match itself I’m so excited for just because of all the reasons you said the fact that Nigel actually got to come back! In the back of my mind, I always wondered where they actually building to the match because of the way that he does commentary against Brian, but I put it out of my head because I didn’t think he would ever be able to be cleared again so it’s an awesome thing to see it actually happening!
In defense of that, Cody is also a better character than a worker. The greatest workers aren't usually the most loved by fans. Stone Cold was mostly character after he broke his neck he couldn't wrestle the same way, The Rock was goofy as heck in his wrestling sometimes, not to mention guys like Cena or Hogan
Lmao why is it that people think its just about your work in the ring, honestly if you're a half decent worker but a killer promo and story teller you'll go much much further than being great in the ring. Its 50/50 in pro wrestling maybe even 40% wrestling 60% and Jey is amazing at the Promo and Story telling Uce has more charisma and charm in his pinkie than 99%of the AEW roster has.
Y'all ending a string of really good points like this with needless AEW shit-talk is just so sleazy & weird. Reeks of insecurity. Have a little more faith in yourself & what you have to say. Tearing down other peoples' thing severely undercuts your credibility.
Why do people love Jey Uso? He's half of one of the greatest tag teams of the modern era. New Day Vs The Usos was incredibly good. When people debate the best tag teams in the world currently, it is New Day, FTR, Young Bucks, and The Usos. The Usos are tag team Hall of Fame worthy. People want to cheer Jey cause they want to see how far he goes given the right story line.
For me the thing with Jey is the inring moveset is missing something. I’d assume after years of tagging he hasn’t developed enough of a single wrestlers mindset or moveset. He always seems like he’s a move away from tagging in Jimmy.
People forget wresting isn't just wrestling, it's *entertainment*. Jey has entertained people for years. Not just with his brother but he was wrestling weekly on Roman's behalf as his right hand man. He had arguably the best wrestling character arch of all time in the Bloodline! Of course people are going to be invested in him. And beyond the adult fans, he's a hero to any kid who grew up watching the Bloodline.
The biggest and simplest reason that Jey is so over, is because he's clearly having fun. The crowd sees him having tons of fun and they have tons of fun with him.
I didn't really hear Jey criticism much until after WrestleMania,crowd loves him every single week & like it or not crowd loves the Yeet. I hope Jey gets a singles title run at some point soon YEET
See ok sure everything Jey did before the singles run was phenomenal. The character work, the acting, the promos, the matches, everything in that period was excellent. I absolutely adored Jey at that point. Then he had mid matches, stopped doing any interesting character work, stopped telling interesting stories, stopped cutting interesting promos with any substances, and became a catchphrase. The catchphrase is not why he’s over, but it has become all he is as a character. Plus I just haven’t been impressed by him as a singles wrestler when he’s not facing Roman (the priest match was fun). All time great tag guy in ring, a fine singles guy in ring. I’ve gone from thinking he could maybe be the guy to beat Roman to not wanting to watch what he’s doing on weekly TV. I still just don’t get it
I have a remix of the first take. The reason they're match at WrestleMania was terrible is because even though they are amazing tag wrestlers, Jimmy isn't a good singles, and Jey isn't a GREAT one.
@@kylegibbs108 I didn't say star, I said wrestler. Jey is absolutely a great singles star. And you're right about Jimmy. We don't know how well he would overall do. I'm specifically talking between the ropes.
thank you for defending Jey. my gf started watching wrestling because of me. that was during the bloodline storyline SHE wants to watch raw on her own just for Jey now. on Mondays when I'm not home she still tunes in just for Jey. she is LOVING Jhea.
It was all downhill for Solo when they changed him from dangerous enforcer to calculating villian who dresses like The Weekend. Maybe Jacob totally sabotaged that by being amazing in that role
That answer on Jey Uso makes sense. He really hasn’t been my cup of tea even though I have nothing to hate on him for. For me personally, the more ppl clamor for him and sing his praises it drives me further away. Almost like 2015-2019 Roman, at least for me.
"I defy you to find anybody in the history of televised professional wrestling with a greater character performance." *Hangman Page has entered the chat*
I think maybe the hate comes from the fact that bloodline Jey’s character work was SO good that people desperately want that from modern day Jey, and the YEET stuff just doesn’t deliver that. I see it as kind of similar to why Braun stopped being as over when he stopped flipping trucks and stuff. He lost the spark of what really made the character shine.
I like @Dylanlange3267 question because My older brother and I sorta have this debate regularly (I’m 48 years old). I would consider myself part of the IWC because I’m more plugged in to wrestling outside of what’s shown on TV. My brother who has been watching wrestling almost as long as me is more of a casual because is he knows very little outside of what is on TV and what I find is that we view wrestling very differently and I’m a bit more critical of things than he is. But conversely when new wrestlers pop up or he is not aware of certain wrestling history (like Danielson and Nigel’s match, he never watch ROH so he is like who cares and why are people so hype for this), either it takes him a while to have interest or he doesn’t have any at all. I think that is where the disconnect comes in.
Yes yes yes yesyesyesyesyes YES!!!! I would love to see Ethan Page reunite with Josh Alexander and reform The North and go on a dominant run as NXT Tag Team Champions
Since they're not doing anything with AJ Styles, with his history with the brand in its prime; what about him taking over TNA and leading their roster against WWE? It would give him a gimmick to run with, only have to wrestle part time while being on TV fairly constantly, and would give the TNA workers an established legend to work off of. He could manage wrestlers, bring them in to challenge for titles, help build feuds, and occasionally work in main events, even if that doesn't necessarily lead to title wins. Also, furthering NXT/TNA stories by getting over young up and comers coming out of TNA , helping their credibility. Just an idea, but would love to hear your/peoples thoughts...
I mean it does though like I get it story is very important but I don't want to watch khali Vs omos for 20 minutes and neither do you am I guessing it does matter, but it's not the best all and end all but most top guys (especially in WWE) are the complete package and Jey just isn't, I've never walked away from a singles match he's involved in blown away by Jey TBH and to me that hurts him when I see him in the ring when I see him in there with people I consider on a similar mic level, but miles above him in ting
@@Ryin-yc6zh my larger point is that these people are saying Jey doesn't deserve his push because he "can't wrestle." But like... Even if he can't (which he can), he's still, factually, one of the most over guys in the company in spite of it.
Not respecting Jey is a massive red flag. He is a better character than 90% of the wrestling world at large. He works well enough to be a top guy. His matches have more investment than most on the roster. Harping on work rate is so dumb. Go watch Rampage or Collision for all work, no story.
Hot take: I like Solo more now than with the OG Bloodline. In fact, I actually like the new BL better (Tonga Loa gotta get it together tho). The OG Bloodline minus Roman and Solo were a bunch of goofy misfits that had to be reeled in every now and then. Nothing wrong with that at all, it was actually entertaining as hell. Solo now is more of a tactical guy than the hired muscle, and obviously Jacob took his place but has more space to be a personality. G.O.D. are more ruthless than the Usos and in kayfabe are less likely to stumble on each other. I don't see them letting a Sami Zayn infiltrate their circle, tho I predict they might form an alliance with Orton.
Believe it or not, I am a Cornette listener, mainly bc I like listening to his stories about 80's and 90's wrestling. But otherwise, the man is a lunatic.
Don't have a reddit account but have you noticed the lady screaming from top of her lungs in the NXT crowd? She's there almost every week and drives me crazy.
Yeah, your rant on Jey did not sell him. The dude is garbage in the ring, and he has decent character work. But to put his work over taker? Character wise? Terrible take
It may be too long to wait, but if they can properly build a TNA vs WWE war games have team TNA go over . I know people want the bloodline wargames, but it's falling flat
Nah I also don't get it the the whole "Push Jay Movement", regular wrestler, has one catch phrase, not physical impressive. He is the type of guy that if he'd ever get the belt, in the next week a Lesnar will come and F5 him out of it. Look at Cody, Roman, Walter, he will never have that type of aura, he does not look like a guy that inspires fear/respect.
@@Notben10-s3pThat has nothing to do with his comment. Also Tony’s doing the same mistakes Eric did. Nigel Vs Danielson on free tv? No build. That’s horrible.
Maybe it's cause I'm such a big LA Knight fan but I notice every time you mention him you mention how old he is. Age doesn't matter in wrestling and he is really good. It's unfair how you always say he will never get to the world championship level. He can and I have faith that one day he will.
The age thing is a bit tongue in cheek tbh. He presents as not even gen x but boomer by saying things like Keister. It’s part of his appeal. I love LA Knight. But not everyone makes sense to carry the world title and you can kind of see how HHH approaches that scene and it just doesn’t feel like LA Knight fits there. Hope I’m wrong 🤷♂️
You are dead right. I only ever watched the bloodline angle when zayn and the usos were the ones! They made it interesting, now the bloodline version 2.0 (oops sorry Matt hardy) is bland and there is no real character, it's just jacob fatu destroys everyone while everyone focuses on cody and roman as solo is boring as a bargain hunt show.
Id argue sami was a better character than jey. You said every jey arc was great but Him vs jimmy made no sense at all, and produced a stinker of a match at mania.
Great historian, great onscreen character. But any time he's had a management role in wrestling, business has gone up after he left. He's another Heyman, not a good business mind.
I think Jey Uso is so popular because of the theme song and, more importantly, because this is the closest that nerds will ever feel being on-beat to music. But I really like your explanation too.
Jey delivered a great character performance but that Jey and current Jey aren’t the same guy that’s why I’m not over into Yeet Jey at the moment. Once he starts working and actual character again that’s beyond Yeet man I’ll probably hop back on the “Main Event” train.
Cornette has never been successful in a management position, he's an incredible historian and a brilliant character, but he was never a great booker. Smokey mountain went out of business When he was on the WWF and WCW creative teams it was two of the worst periods from a business sense. He ran fans away from ROH OVW was the closest he got to success, but even then the people they trained all had to be repackaged on the main roster.
I liked jey in the bloodline ... i dont like main event jey. He's a one note mid card clown crowd pleaser. Literally taking a page out of Koko B.Ware to the point that he owes him royalties. All he's missing is a parrot.
Jey is a tricky one. He has personality and can talk, but he's been stuck with this awful gimmick and catchphrases for a while. When he's serious he's good. He's also still so sloppy and awkward in ring.
@AliSubhi-xs4rn If he can't throw a punch and still managed to get the tag team belts 15 something times and be as over as he is then... I guess he doesn't need to learn does he?
@@wrequiem1727 nobody said he needed to. He's over because he has a personality and people have been invested in the bloodline storyline for three years or whatever
Jey Uso is not a main eventer. Guys like Jey, Kofi, Gable, Ziggler, etc. are good wrestlers that the crowd latches onto because they appreciate how long they've been around, but also because they just want to see things shaken up and be less predictable. Kofi's title reign was bad, but he's great in a team. Jey is better in a team or faction as well. He's hot at the moment, but he's not a guy whose name makes people buy tickets. They're happy to see him, but he's just not that great. His current popularity is like a slightly elevated Virgil or Damien Sandow coming out from under an abusive situation, but he has more caché due to his tenure. If people think there's nowhere to go with Cody's title run, where would a Jey Uso win go other than right back into another Bloodline angle?
Dave Meltzer is nothing but a leech on the wrestling business. The fact that you don't understand that half of what Jim says is him just riffing and having fun says more about you than it does Jim.
I don't like Dave, like...at all. But Steve not enjoying something " its not him its you!" Dude Jim is very abrasive and isn't for everyone. " you have to like him or you're the problem." Esk logic. Steve pretty much said " I like orange juice ,he's selling apple juice " but the cult around Jim cannot fathom that he's too angry for some. Also his constant dives into politics and the shit he's said on that is psychotic. Which ...pushes people away
