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@nickfranco865 2 года назад

Firja's Retribution is almost certainly included in the deck because all of your changelings count as angels.

@jacobnestle3805 7 месяцев назад

And because Maskwood Nexus makes all of your creatures into Angels. If you can put Maskwood Nexus out at the right time, your opponents might not see that you're set up for a bunch of double strikes until it's too late

@allisonchristie2754 2 года назад

Another piece of really good conditional ramp for the deck is Oketra's Monument, discounts all your white creatures by 1 generic and when you cast creature spells, which you definitely are going to do, you get a 1/1 WARRIOR token so it can help fill in the party too.

@leemiller6977 2 года назад

Nice! Thanks for the idea.

@RadishDoctor Год назад

Ya good point, I should add both Oketra and Bontu. I swapped some of the creatures out for Vampire Clerics that do the whole gain life, opponents lose life.

@Hemlocker 2 года назад

I feel like Nighthawk Scavenger is WAY better than you're giving it credit for. Yeah, counting up all the card types in your opponents' graveyards can be annoying, but 3 mana for what can very easily be a 6/3 with flying, deathtouch and lifelink is bonkers.

@joshholmes1372 2 года назад

At worst it's a flying deathtouch blocker

@abdulhameed8999 2 года назад

Yeah ngl this video was kinda a miss, some of the additions were questionable and idk why you would take out nighthawk scavenger or irregular cohort

@manchovieclemmons2380 2 года назад

Well, i understand why you wpuld want a bunch of creatures with flash if you are using folk hero as a background. Shields of veilis veil was super questionable though.

@SplashNThrash 2 года назад

It’s legit won me the game in this deck twice so far

@mibbzx1493 2 года назад

Yea i use his ass in all of my decks no cap, flying deathtouch blockers are soooo clutch

@josefinacabrera589 2 года назад

i much prefer Nalia as the commander, and some of the added cards were not great honestly

@mn6334 2 года назад

Gavin actually talked on Maro's podcast about why they made Nalia a Rogue. From what I remember it was because Rogue was the type they had the most difficulty finding creatures for the deck so they made the face commander a rogue so you always had access to one.

@davidhoar75 2 года назад

But they also made Burakos, who can be any party member type you're missing... what happened there? lol

@Hemlocker 2 года назад

@@davidhoar75 Burakos isn't the face commander tho

@davidhoar75 2 года назад

@@Hemlocker But that's my point; they gave an essential stat to a card that was one of the 99, when the face commander only received the one party type. I think they should have switched that around and made Burakos a rogue only.

@lum26akua28 2 года назад

@@davidhoar75 That would make Nalia too powerful for her Mana cost.

@davidsoyele7829 2 месяца назад

Also Nalia’s a rogue in BG2

@PieMan061 2 года назад

I have to really disagree with thinking Nalia isn’t great as a commander, and it’s because I have a feeling they didn’t actually play test the deck as is before upgrading. In my plays, it stood up very well against non-Budget decks and being able to see what you’ll draw next, even if it’s not a party card, is good information. The deck itself was well optimized in making sure you could get a full party surprisingly, especially with the changlings support and mutavault so unless there were multiple board wipes, I never had too much trouble getting full parties and pumping them at least twice. Also, for the cuts where they said “Why are Angels in here” or “Warriors are very minor”, they clearly didn’t get that changeling was a huge sub-theme with this deck. When I had Firja’s out, I had 4 angels, three of them being changeling and after being pumped by Nalia, I was able to destroy three really powerful targets. I would really kinda like a redo of this video using Nalia as the commander because I was excited to see what they would do for the party but it turned into another “treasure + card draw = good” that commander is turning into (which it certainly is, it’s just boring when all decks are like that)

@gallodorogaming9964 Год назад

Just got this deck and played about five games worth it straight out the box and absolutely loved it. I did use barakos but I got to play nalia in almost every game and it’s making me reconsider her as the main commander. Especially adding in more of the party members with flash

@ryanc3201 Год назад

Honestly the cuts and additions for this deck were just really poor. I love how they had an extensive discussion about how hard it can be to fill your party, then they cut a creature that fills two slots because "all it does is fill out two slots on your party?" They had a couple of good additions, but overall this wasn't great. And Serra's Emissary as an "alpha strike" when they establish you generally don't want more then 4 creatures on the board at any given time? Wtf?

@rethaknoetze9871 Год назад

It is also possible to play multiple cards off the top of your deck with Nalia each turn. They seem to think that her ability only works once per turn.

@calebbrown1068 Год назад

Burakos is the much better commander and it’s not even close. You get ramp and card draw in spades in your CZ with Folk Hero, and I take that consistency over any amount of popoff Nalia can provide. She’s good in the 99 but Burakos/Folk Hero is so solid.

@PieMan061 Год назад

@@calebbrown1068 Different play styles. Honestly, I’m tired that everything boils down to ramp/card nowadays for people to see it as “good”.

@ndo420 2 года назад

You don’t need to upgrade this deck, it already smacks!!

@MonkeyGone2Heaven650 2 года назад

Been waiting for this one. Love the Party Time deck.

@littlehorror1057 2 года назад

I reccomend mortuary, gets around commander tax on creatures and plus you'll (in theory) get your draws back with folk hero

@DVRhm25 2 года назад

I played this deck and made some upgrades thinking it wouldn't be that great. It was in fact very good. Super fun deck!

@chrisgallo2236 2 года назад

I kept Nalia as the commander and did the party theme with a 1/1 counters subtheme. So much fun.

@xtyberius 2 года назад

Same! Check out Haunted Crossroads for amazing Nalia tech.

@BurnByMoonlight 2 года назад

Same here! Abzan Battle Priest is a Cleric and gives lifelink to any creature with a +1/+1 counter, Ozolith and Resourceful Defense to keep counters around after death

@MrRi-hl7nv 2 года назад

Sigarda's Summons fly away

@faerie7dragon 2 года назад

Tazri gives this video a thumbs up. Keen Duelist is a cool wizard and it should still be a very budget friendly Bob, recommended.

@spacepawdyssey4288 2 года назад

I've played this deck with both Nalia and Burakos and so far I've far prefered Nalia. Getting the treasure with Burakos means you have to attack -- and by the time you've played him out and can swing, there aren't always any options that won't get your commander killed. He's a 2/4. He's going to get curb stomped. He also won't help the rest of your team get through. With the background, you do get the one card draw per turn -- but then you're taking off turn 2 or 3 to play an enchantment when you could be playing more creatures or a mana rock. Nalia doesn't require any setup for the card advantage and you can cast more than one creature per turn off of the top of your deck. Getting a full party isn't hard at all with the changelings in the deck either. Toss in a little top deck manipulation and she's really solid.

@joshholmes1372 2 года назад

Thieves tools and other avoidance cards help a lot

@spacepawdyssey4288 2 года назад

@@joshholmes1372 my favorite is Trailblazer's Boots. No one expects it and everyone runs non-basics

@joshholmes1372 2 года назад

@@spacepawdyssey4288 oh shit

@CyberBuster93 2 года назад

I love that the party mechanic is getting some serious buffs! Was kinda sad that we didn't see many of them in the D&D sets, but this commander deck definitely makes up for it! Hope to see more!

@cooljoe500 2 года назад

I like Nalia more than Burakos+Folk Hero

@samread890 2 года назад

agree

@RConnickJr 2 года назад

The idea that Nalia is going to whiff on "all the creatures that aren't party classes" is silly. In a properly built Nalia deck, she's hitting every single creature in the deck. That is a very powerful effect out of the command zone. This is the whole deal with this deck: there simply aren't enough Party payoffs to make trying to assemble the party your whole goal. Instead, you need to be valuing off with Nalia and top of the deck manipulation like Haunted Crossroads or things of that nature. When you do get party, you get a nice bonus. It's not the whole plan, though. And Mindblade Render is a terrible cut. I don't know, this upgrade guide seems pretty pants.

@imapaincake2305 2 года назад

You Just reminded me how an Amazing card haunted crossroads Is! :d

@JediMB 2 года назад

Eh, I see why they went in the direction they did, but as someone who's going to rebuild the deck around Nalia simply because I think she's a cool card, I have to thank you for mentioning Haunted Crossroads. That looks like an obscenely good addition to the deck.

@RConnickJr 2 года назад

@@JediMB It really is. All top deck manipulation cards are, really! Haunted Crossroads is the most budget one, and also super strong in this strategy, but things like Scroll Rack and Divining Top are also amazing here. Necropotence too, but that card doesn't really need much help winning the game.

@discoviolenza1984 2 года назад

I've been playing this deck a bunch out of the box against my playgroup and Nalia has performed so much better for me. The orc doesn't pressure anyone and you don't really need the treasures because your creatures are so cheap to cast. Getting a full party is really easy with Nalia. you can generally curve out into it and once she pumps your board with death touch most people won't block her.

@TheAzideen 2 года назад

You just end up blocking Nalia not the rest, taking the singular loss. which then causes the entire gameplan to go away and the commander becomes too expensive and does nothing. I'm definnetly team Orc for this deck.

@turnipton9871 2 года назад

@@TheAzideen Don't swing in with Nalia, problem solved. Your creatures still get the pump even if you don't attack.

@joshholmes1372 2 года назад

Yeah just tried the orc and while I got a ton of mana, the damage didn't do much to close out the game.

@munsulight721 2 года назад

@@TheAzideen Just dont swing with Nalia. Your creature still get the buff

@dakotahmay6746 2 года назад

I agree with this fully I found the death touch usually lets you push through damage. And her top deck card advantage lets me keep a hand mostly full while just casting from the top of my deck

@chrismarlow9585 2 года назад

I don't think this upgrade guide understands the play pattern of the deck. You're playing a bunch of little creatures which need the counters and deathtouch from Nalia to go aggressive. If you want to upgrade it then lean into +1/+1 counters and swapping out some of the weaker creatures for stronger ones in the party types. I haven't checked the non-creature cards in the deck but probably protection and recursion would work well. Definitely don't drop the card draw, because the curve is low and you want to rebuild the party after any board wipe. Also, don't drop party creatures which are good in combat and benefit from +1/+1 counters (e.g. the flying lifelinker or the 3/3 double strike changeling).

@erickvanpatten673 2 года назад

I feel exactly the same way. I think she was not sure of how the card worked/played

@chrismarlow9585 2 года назад

@@erickvanpatten673 What's interesting to me is how drastically different the reactions to the commanders were from MTG goldfish vs Command zone. CZ saw Nalia as bad card advantage and a weak payoff, while the backup commander as excellent ramp and the background for better card advantage. Goldfish saw the backup commander as a 2/4 which somehow has to attack to actually ramp (both slow and super unreliable) while Nalia as 3MV (cheap) that helps you get out your cheap creatures faster and make the game plan work. They noted it basically enables your fun party deck to actually be threatening. I think Goldfish were completely correct. The only thing good about the backup commander is the folk hero background. In order to play it as the commander you'd need to add in evasion, probably equipment and either things to ramp into, heavier hitting party creatures or cheap, value party creatures you churn through with folk hero. It's a very different deck from Nalia and not what party time is built as out of the box, from what I know.

@PieMan061 2 года назад

I really have a feeling they didn’t play test this deck, either before with the precon as is or after with their suggested upgrades. I love the precon with Nalia as commander and it holds up really well against non Budget decks

@Tvboy777 2 года назад

It's almost like they make these upgrade guides out of financial obligation rather than because they are actually interested.

@chrismarlow9585 2 года назад

@@Tvboy777 It seems like they assign one to each of the team members but whether that person gets to play test it varies. Ashlyn did get to play this one, but either she did the upgrade guide before playing or she was misdirected by the team that the backup commander was the way to go, so she never saw what Nalia was like and how the deck naturally functions. So I think the people are invested, but it's their personal take on it and in this specific case something went wrong along the way.

@henrymoxley5114 2 года назад

I personally would cut the sacrifice theme, party really wants to have creatures out and sacrificing your stuff feels counter intuitive. Also i prefer the initial leader as a commander because its both card draw and a win con. For my precon i cut a bit of the draw and added more ramp.

@joshholmes1372 2 года назад

Needs ramp and some removal

@derektimmons6495 Год назад

I actually kept it but I did it with things like ghoul caller gisa and other token producing creatures.

@VVhirl 2 года назад

Just as a side note with Valiant Changeling, he comes down for WW if Burakos is out because Burakos has 5 creature types. I took him out of my Burakos build as well, but in the Nalia build he's decent because putting deeathtouch and giving him counters is pretty nice.

@redbirdriot 2 года назад

This - I was kind of surprised they took it out. I've seen others suggest taking some of the changelings out and I think that's a mistake - Burakos can make it a bit better if you don't have all four creature types compared to Nalia, but regardless of commander I think you care a little more about getting your party online and just a little less about the quality of the members. That said, 3/3 double strike for WW isn't bad either.

@rteishe 2 года назад

I like this deck, party actually works pretty well in orzhov. Cutting Mindblade Render was interesting though...great card. Remember...its not just when YOU do combat damage to a player with a warrior, it's when any of your opponents are dealt combat damage by ANY warrior on the table. It draws a good amount of cards usually

@niklasolofsson5211 2 года назад

Also the fact that your commander (Burakos, party leader) is a warrior which u will be attacking with as much as possible

@damo9961 2 года назад

It's a budget Cedh card, basically Dark Confidant without the life loss if you play it turn 2, or a 2 mana arena.

@GinjaNinja-qy6nj Год назад

I ended up putting in Shaile/Embrose instead to replace Mindblade Render. Shaile is great early game to build up your creatures and is also a cleric. Embrose, though he's not included in the party system, fills in for when you already have a board state and need some card draw value.

@steev-sensei 2 года назад

I disagree about Burakos being the commander. The problem is to make him good you have to attack. When I ran Burakos he just kept dying and I didn't get much value out of him. Once he is able to attack, there are already people casting 4/4's or greater making him die really fast. Plus because he is so much of a value engine, getting treasures, cards, and direct life loss, people just kept destroying him. This deck is about tapping creatures and hitting face. Nalia's deathtouch and +1/+1 abilities allow for you to more reliably attack. I also never had a problem building the party. As long as you have a few changelings, it is pretty easy. Also Nalia is less intimidating so people left her alone. I think Burakos seems more like he'd be the commander if you were trying to tune the deck to an 8 or 9 power level, but the problem is this deck really caps out at 7. Don't get me wrong, it is still a fun deck to whip out and play with, just that I don't think we are ever going to get to a super high level of gameplay with this deck. So Nalia is the better choice.

@MrNord-so3yp 2 года назад

Burakos has been amazing in my experience having ramp and card draw in the command zone is incredible. The reason he’s getting killed so much is because he’s much more powerful than the main commander 😂

@steev-sensei 2 года назад

@@MrNord-so3yp He's not though.. By himself Burakos isn't as good. He is only better when combined with Folk Hero. Then you are comparing a 6 mana value worth of stuff to a 3 drop. Not to mention unless you have a insane hand, he likely won't even get to attack until turn 4 or 5. You won't even get the benefit of Folk Hero until turn 5 or 6 too. By turn 3, I could already be attacking and getting the benefit of Nalia. Burakos and Folk Hero on the surface level seems great. You have Ramp and Card Draw, but when you think about how fast you are accessing those resources, he is slow and cumbersome in any really competitive game. Again, neither of them will make your deck better than a 7. I just think Nalia is better overall. Most of your stuff is small and having a commander make it so your stuff gets bigger, can kill stuff when they attack, and overall makes your game more aggressive. It will give you the best chance to win.

@MrNord-so3yp 2 года назад

@@steev-sensei Idk I think your argument that Burakos isn’t good unless you have a busted hand is weird considering for Nalias ability to pump your board requires a full party while Burakos can generate value without that, and splitting 6 mana into two turns is easy, especially if you ramp on two, play Burakos on 3, and then play folk hero and another thing on 4 and draw card, more value than Nalia could create easily. Also the argument that Burakos needs to attack to generate value is fine you’re an attacking deck either way

@steev-sensei 2 года назад

@@MrNord-so3yp I'm not saying he isn't good, just not amazing or better than Nalia. Also if the argument is Nalia isn't good until you get a whole party, then I'd argue the same is for Burakos. A 4 mana 2/4 that nets you 1 - 3 treasures every go around? It ain't bad, but you aren't going to win any awards. The whole point of the deck is to build a party and once you do that with Nalia you are boosting your creatures and swinging for lots of damage. Not to mention you don't even have to attack with her. I'll say it one last time. Party Time at its best is about being aggressive. Burakos is a great utlitiy commander and it is going to make you feel like you are doing a lot, but being aggressive is how you will win with Party Time. The longer the game goes on with Party Time, the more disadvantage you'll be since you aren't rocking a lot of big hitters or massive combos.

@Shamlezzz 2 года назад

@@steev-sensei I agree with Andrew. Burakos coming down turn 3/4 is still better value than naila turn 3. It staples "draw a card" to every creature in the deck once a turn. That's way more value than naila offers by a large margin

@ameagher45 2 года назад

There's a pretty nice combo with the commander they chose. Strionic Resonator + Clock of Omens. With a full party and 2 mana to activate the Strionic Resonator copying Burakos' ability the first time, you can then let the Strionic Resonator trigger resolve granting you 4 treasures and draining your opponents for 4. Then using 2 of the treasures, you use Clock of Omens to untap Strionic resonator and then with the other 2 treasures, you use the mana to activate Strionic Resonator again.

@monkeybench Год назад

I can't believe they put card suggestions in my hour long ad break.

@Vi101Jay 2 года назад

You could see that Josh wasn't high on the Mindblade Render cut 😅

@Kethigar 2 года назад

Burakos isn’t great as a commander. It’s a 2/4 for 4 with no evasion that you have to attack with to get any value. Nalia just sits there pumping the board and casting stuff off the top.

@MrNord-so3yp 2 года назад

Burakos has been incredible in my experience idk about that one, ramp and card draw in the command zone is quite powerful.

@Shamlezzz 2 года назад

Burakos with folk hero out reads like beast whisperer except it has access to ramp if someone doesn't play 4/xs or you aren't pumping him

@shayneweyker 2 года назад

Haven't had much chance to play it yet but a Burakos deck with a whole lot of low casting cost party creatures and protection/evasion for the commander will get you not just mana and cards with folk hero, it gets you a reliable source of life drain. Your other creatures can sit back and block if they can't get through anywhere. And black has ways of capitalizing on the life drain. I think a good one is warlock class since the deck needs mana sinks to take advantage of the treasures and not commit too many creatures to the board.

@dedhart Год назад

100% agree, Burakos just feels like more of a support card for the deck. Nalia really shines as the main character.

@No1ofConsequence 2 года назад

Better vid than the Exit to Exile deck where they got Library of Leng wrong and kept playing off the misread for "upgrades".

@Zblaster1 2 года назад

I actually won a game with Firja's Retribution using this precon by tapping some changelings to get chump blockers out of the way with the second chapter on the saga. Still think it's probably a good card to cut though.

@mn6334 2 года назад

I also won a game with the precon partially because of Firja's Retribution. In response to the third chapter trigger I activated Mirror Entity for all my mana and had like 6 or 7 double striking 10/10s+

@Marsiena 2 года назад

It's super good. It gives you a Warrior, 4/4 Angel with flying and vigilance that can tap to destroy a creature on chapter 2, and chapter 3 is insane if you put Sigarda's Summons in your deck.

@hughfogarty7923 2 года назад

I kept nalia then replaced all the rogues in the deck with shape shifters and it's really fun to play

@JadeRedglare 2 года назад

So taking out Mindblade Render is a mistake for sure. Warriors are kind of evergreen, spec with Render and Azra Oddsmaker being such a staple of rakdos decks, so Render will get you card draw on opponents turns as well.

@EDtheIII 2 года назад

Yeah, and if your deck is working properly and Burakos is hitting face every turn to get those treasures, then that's a guaranteed card every turn, so basically phyrexian arena with upside.

@alexandredespaties-gagnier883 2 года назад

add haakon, stromgald scourge and the tribal changeling instants and cast them whenever you want as much as you want from the grave. then you can shield of velis vel on your opponents creatures when they attack. nameless inversion and crib swap for removal whenever you need it. With maskwood nexus its recursion all day long

@lucasschulz9907 2 года назад

Also should add oketras monument to this deck anyway and that generates warriors btw (disclaimer that monument is better in a version with Nalia as the commander) which works great with renderer

@c1dv1c1ous 2 года назад

I own this deck and that look at the top is so good. It's a form of card draw that can really go crazy in late game.

@BurnByMoonlight 2 года назад

Don’t you know, you never split the party. Cleric in the back keeps the ~~fighter~~ Warrior hale and hearty. Wizard in the middle where he can shed some light. And you never let that damn ~~thief~~ rogue out of siiiiiiight!

@littlehorror1057 2 года назад

I reccomend mortuary, gets around commander tax on creatures and plus you'll (in theory) get your draws back with folk hero, also heirloom blade. Give it to your commander you'll always get "something" give it to a creature you're low on you'll always get what you need

@FidoPhilanthropist 2 года назад

I'm not quite sure why all (or at least three of) the Command Zone dislikes Nalia when she seems quite favored by others (myself included). It has to be a difference in the way they evaluate cards, which (even if you disagree) is interesting to try and understand.

@joshholmes1372 2 года назад

Might be pod specific. I don't value top card play that highly. Her scaling is nice, but it's not that easy to assemble and maintain a full party to get it's affect. Burakos ramps you like crazy, which is what this deck lacks and then you go wide and draw like crazy with the background. All you need is avoidance for burakos and you're golden. Nalia is also great though. Just changes how you build the deck imo.

@FidoPhilanthropist 2 года назад

@@joshholmes1372 I guess I don't see how Burakos is going to create much value. A 4-mana 2/4 with no evasion that has to attack? How many times in a game are you going to be able to attack profitably? Especially if you also have to ramp and play party members at the same time.

@Astronomater 2 года назад

played a minimally altered Burakos deck right at release day against constructed decks. Stick together was a brutal boardwipe. only one opponent got to keep a rogue and i wiped out over 100 creatures. excited to play a tuned one with the opposition agent/maralen lock alongside the Abdel Adrian finisher. I did this because i found it ridiculously easy to form a party but the deck lacked finishers.

@Stringer207 2 года назад

4:40 start of the topic if you want to skip the UltraPro

@Stringer207 2 года назад

25:34 for after mid-episode ads

@VladTaltos01 2 года назад

Not all heroes wear capes! 👍

@dirtpickingusa8786 2 года назад

I stuck with Nalia for my build, my problem with the backgrounds is you get a 2 for 1 when an opponent removes your commander. It affectively "turns off" your background and it is a dead card in play.

@Tvboy777 2 года назад

Backgrounds are free in terms of card advantage, you start with 7 cards in hand whether you have 1 commander in the zone or 2, so it's not actually a 2-for-1, even though it feels like it.

@PuTeee89 2 года назад

I've to say that Nalia is bonkers. Burakos is more powerful, yes, but I tried Nalia in 1on1 a lot and its a crazy amount of damage you can deal with her in short time. I should probably mention that i am shifting more and more to a maybe 7 on the power scale. I liked the level of the initial precon(s)

@damo9961 2 года назад

7 on the power scale? Lol explain what 7 means to you because literally everyone calls their deck a 7. I'd say a 7 is clunky combos that kill the table or go wide into overrun effects kill the table, a lot of expensive staples and some fast mana. An average non land casting cost of about 3. Battlecruiser makes up 1-5 - if you're using big fatties to deal fair damage to win there's no way you're above a 5. There are 10 points on a 10 point scale but EVERYONE calls their deck a 6-8 lol. Precons are a 1-2, there is no point having them higher because less than 1% of decks realistically are going to be weaker than a precon and they are the official starting point. So many casuals lump so much into 10/10 or cedh and it's kind of ridiculous. There is a huge range in power that gets lumped into 10 and then everything else is a 5 or a 7 lol

@toddomg 2 года назад

I bought all ten of these cards, PLUS the two honorable mentions that were "too expensive" today at my LGS. Final price was about $50. Really not bad! Without the two expensive cards it would have only been about $20, so I think Command Zone plays it fairly conservative with their estimates which is always great to see.

@johnathonlillecrapp6480 2 года назад

I'd like to see the gang play the upgraded precons you recommend. Each person can pick one from any of the ones you've covered. Just the basic 10 in 10 out.

@creature2711 2 года назад

Would love to hear JLK's take on some of the party cards in this deck for his Shadowborn apostle deck. I personaly bought this one just to get some cards for my version of it. Nalia, for example can let you play apostles from the top of your deck when you ar out of them in your hand. With her, Edgewalker and top (or some other top-deck manipulation) is basically GG. Even without the other pieces she helps finding that 5th or 6th copy when you are out of them in your hand. I don't know if this justifies sending Athreos to the 99 and letting Nalia be the commander but i'm gonna test it out. An like her a number of the party cards ar incidentally great because they care about clerics. Solemn Doomguide is another example I'm trying. If you happen to be on the back foot with a lot of apostles in the graveyard this can help you unearth enough apostles for a key activation to steal a victory (for double the price sure but maybe its worth it your you have Cabal coffers)

@radiantburrito 2 года назад

Black Market Connections suddenly existed and became one of the single best cards in that deck. I’ll never not take all three modes if I’m dropping it T3.

@alexmuccilli 2 года назад

This deck, out the box, is so good. I've yet to lose with it. Obviously, upgrades would make it even better, but it's already so so good! As far as casual play goes, this one's a winner.

@MostcallmeTim 2 года назад

Loving these guides for Commander: BFBG as I bought all 4. Only one more go.

@haroun1760 2 года назад

Looked at a lot of upgrate videos for the new decks and most cards they are cutting are good. So pretty good pre cons this time

@kuul2bme 2 года назад

I might have left valiant changeling in due to the fact that with your commander out it would be 2 mana, also would allow you to play another creature type after, making burakos trigger for 3 treasures the 2nd turn after a board wipe... also a great blocker

@matthewteachout2263 2 года назад

I'm actually adding Containment Priest to mine. Kind of situational, but could come in handy.

@SuperPlayer987 2 года назад

If you are going for Nalia: "Gisa, Glorious Resurrector" - Wizard $0.90 "Resplendent Marshal" - Warrior $0.80 "Voldaren Bloodcaster" - Wizard $0.20 "Morbid Opportunist" - Rogue $1.10 "Cliffhaven Sell-Sword" - Warrior $0.01 "Firja, Judge of Valor" - Cleric $0.10 "Luminarch Aspirant" - Cleric $0.35 "Nullpriest of Oblivion" - Cleric $0.20 "Slash the Ranks" - $0.80 "Lae'zel, Vlaakith's Champion" - Warrior $0.40 I have added: "Sigrid, God-Favored" "Dream Devourer" I would buy: "Archivist of Oghma" "Legion Loyalty" "Elspeth Resplendent"

@beerycolton 2 года назад

I think the angel tribal card is in there because of all the changelings and/or maskwood nexus, but I'm probably still cutting it, myself.

@dylansturm8065 7 месяцев назад

Built one in arena with shadowborne apostles. Working well

@lockecole3726 2 года назад

Burakos also counts for every class in the party, for Multiclass Baldric purposes.

@Squeakel1 2 года назад

What a great release I’m hype for the next

@oxtim394 Год назад

I plan to upgrade this deck slowly, adding color-by-color, to eventually include all of the Street Fighter SL cards. This is a great start. Just need to find a place to stick E.Honda!

@Homosexuallatinman 2 года назад

I love command zone!! Every time you upload my day better!

@Homosexuallatinman 2 года назад

@@elizabeth-gt8rv screw off robot

@lucasschulz9907 2 года назад

to mention for those who are concerned there are infinite sac combos with nalia and haunted crossroads. Oketras monument + phyrexian altar + 1 mana party memeber(2 mana white party member) + crossroads = infinite sacs. For example life insurance/pitiless plunderer with a separate sac outlet also get you there or combination there of gets you infinite mana as well

@oxtim394 2 года назад

Universal Automaton? It doesn't have a high impact ability or anything, but it's a 1 mana value changeling. Easy to round out party

@SackofDooDoo 2 года назад

I feel like they put a LOT of weight on Folk Hero when they cut some of the card draw/selection cards. Relying on only 1 (sometimes 2 with a flash creature) extra card per rotation is pushing it.

@GoatOfThunder 2 года назад

my new commander for Shadowborn Apostles! So much shenanigans

@AJANI97 2 года назад

Didn’t think about that but very cool idea!

@rodrigoalvespacheco6178 2 года назад

I played with the deck, Rumor Gatherer is REALLY good.

@kagelobo7444 2 года назад

Maybe switch the cards in/out segments around you loose so much excitement and energy by the outs it makes it a bit harder to finish the video

@andreasmueller337 2 года назад

I would get selfless glyphweaver in. Cleric that can save the board without needing to keep mana up and is Boardwippe as emergency brake on the backside

@ryanmccleary9003 Год назад

ive won a game with the FIrja's Retribution... there are quite a few changelings in the deck. With Nalia's ability giving counters it was devastating

@cdricl 2 года назад

Could Josh be any more unimpressed by her choices of mods? I'm surprised to see 7-8 fillers to give room for more expensive cards, that don't seem that impressive or relevant to this deck. I was waiting on this guide. Guess I'll look elsewhere for Party Time upgrade guides :(

@oScArRiTo94 2 года назад

What do you think about Disciple of the Vault and Agent of the Iron Throne? You would get a nice additional value from sacrificing all those treasures. Also a nice sinergy with Pontiff of Blight's extort ability. And what about Rouge's Passage and Access Tunnel? I think they're great to ensure you can attack each turn with Burakos.

@JJMcGlock 2 года назад

Patiently waiting for the Draconic Dissent upgrade guide.

@servillo8723 2 года назад

Nalia would definitely need a lot more top-deck manipulation to be more viable. I've been playing with Galea a fair bit over the last year who has a very similar effect, and the most important things for consistency are ways to reset the top of the deck. Unfortunately Orzhov doesn't really have things like Augur of Autumn to clear out lands from the top of the library, but loading up on scry effects, deck shuffling, card draw, Scroll Rack is amazing, there's lots of effects in Black to mill the top card of your library, etc. can really give you a lot more topdeck hits than you might initially expect.

@black_rose9190 2 года назад

Love the vids kepp it up🤗

@Homosexuallatinman 2 года назад

You are all so funny! You make my day better!

@victorcarrillo2151 2 года назад

Another great card to add is varragoth

@jamesbv4862 2 года назад

There play timing is all of for this deck. Glt this deck day one and have been playing it on stop. The play pattern is... turn two ramp. Turn 3 play your commander. Turn four play folk hero and one low cmc creater. Then attack. That way you get to draw, and get two treasure for the next tirm or for protection.

@vladimirampov8935 2 года назад

also ruthless technomancer says artifacts, so if you can create food and clue tokens simultaneously then sac them

@natashiastubblefield2130 2 года назад

I like the way they do these except I would love if they did avg cmc costs first before an after because I feel like the avg cmc for precons is really high. I feel like they usually do take out high cmc cards an add lower cmc cards as well

@louisoncolin6025 2 года назад

They should definitely do more stats post upgrade yes

@novak_1852 2 года назад

i would add a Stonework Packbeast

@Dadiplomatt23 2 года назад

Nalia is actually really good, think they're underrating her highly.

@nathanstruble2177 2 года назад

Y'all ditched Rumor Gatherer?!?!! Interesting choice

@wadewilson5712 2 года назад

i already had a party deck with Tazrri, Beacon of Unity so i guess buy this one and break it up and tweak my deck , i wanted more than 2 colors anyway

@YaBoyEdGames 2 года назад

I had a tazri deck in early build mixing it with dungeon strats but it didn’t work that much. I’m considering making it again just strictly patty related. I’m curious if you have a list.

@albertlyons9093 2 года назад

Love the content. Keep at it

@berng3870 Год назад

Mindblade render triggers also with warriors controlled by the opponents

@dedhart 2 года назад

I don't think nighthawk scavenger cares about creature subtypes

@Bobbybillybillbob Год назад

Imo, I play a few commanders with you may look at the top catd of your library, and I'd say Reality chip for Mono Blue and definitely Galea with Enchantments works well

@garrett1433 Год назад

Thoughts on Idol of Endurance? Seems pretty good if you run alot of 3 or less drops

@Chaoslorden Год назад

Hmm I just got this deck and I think Nalia is the correct choice. Add more top manipulation like scry and such and it should be good. Perhaps change some cards out for more powerful versions.

@josephmorin276 2 года назад

Are you guys doing an upgrade guide for the Drconic Dissent precon?

@DinoNugsy Год назад

What card would you swap out for revel in riches

@krisztiankiss871 Год назад

Does anyone know, in which episode they played this deck ? i cant find the video. As i remember a guest woman played the party time deck.

@mibbzx1493 2 года назад

I think nalia would be perfect if it had a scry 1 or 2 to help you find the party piece you need

@markc6571 2 года назад

With x2m2, Panharmonicon just might make the budget list

@bryandefoe9449 2 года назад

Why wasn't Oketra's Monumnet mentioned? Cost reduction for most of your creature spells AND creates warrior tokens to help flesh out the party? Seems like a whiff to not even talk about it, let alone auto include it into the deck

@bryandefoe9449 2 года назад

Also, not that it does a lot since it's better for Cleric tribal, but Edgewalker could do some work with Maskwood Nexus onboard

@zachbechtel2101 2 года назад

It's too bad verge ranger isn't a party class. Could help get lands off the top. Seems good symmetry to have multiple cards that deal with top of the library.

@SgtManiak Год назад

This is a noob question that may not be answered since this is an older video. If Burakos is your commander, isn’t the rule you can only build a deck around the commander’s color identity? Like you could not have white cards in this case?

@dyllandurbin4600 2 года назад

I fought against that deck without it being edited and it's too strong 🤣 I lost to it like twice IRL.

@bennettwadekamper8238 2 года назад

"Some people get upset when we do that." I understand, but am still upset.

@Mwarrior1991 2 года назад

how good of an idea would it be to remove one "party member" completely? like, no wizards since my commander will already fill that spot?

@amithemuffinman Год назад

Yeah I really feel that Nalia is the better commander. Played it out the box with no changes and was problem every game with big deathtouchy threats. Burakos really relies on swinging and without some type of evasion, just dies later in the game.

@allisonchristie2754 2 года назад

Cutting Valiant Changeling is a mistake, ESPECIALLY with Burakos as the commander. With Burakos on the board the changeling will only cost WW and then fill in any slot of the party, this deck definitely needs its changelings.

@glowface6027 2 года назад

No one is talking about the absolute powerhouse in twilight prophet, considering how battlfefield heavy this deck is ascend is easy, and the ability fits well with nalia, allowing you to perhaps leave a bomb on top even if you COULD play it, you also could wait and drain for a ton.

@maxvanhooren8606 2 года назад

It is probably to expensive for the upgrade guides

@ttzera 2 года назад

25:33 to skip the huge ad in the middle

@IngloriousGambler Год назад

I think they got the way Nighthawk Scavenger works wrong, talking about clerics, rogues and counting creature cards in graveyards.

@ratslush4130 2 года назад

Something super interesting: Both Nalia and Burakos have become potential cEDH commanders.

@OnlyTheUglySurvive 2 года назад

If you use Burakos as the Commander with the Background, do you have to add a card, since there will be only 98 in the rest of the deck? Which of the cards would be the LAST one you cut?

@leemiller6977 2 года назад

Nope, you just need Burakos and Folk Hero and then 98 other cards.

@OnlyTheUglySurvive 2 года назад

@@leemiller6977 I feel pretty dumb to have only learned this rule this weekend. I also found out it applies to PARTNER Commanders as well

@judahburlingame 2 года назад

Before playing, I thought Burakos would be the better choice for sure, but he was more of a lightning rod and played out much slower in my play group. Nalia performed MUCH better in the 4 games I played (two with each Commander).

@yuseiyugi986 Год назад

How would you use the second commander if you also want to use folk hero? Doesn’t the color identity not match since its white and burakos is black?

@aidenignition Год назад

You pair Burakos with Folk Hero as the commander because Burakos says you get to choose a background. Kind of like the Partner mechanic, but with an enchantment.

@niklasolofsson5211 2 года назад

I feel like the cut 10 add 10 cards u did kinda put wizards on the low end, u added 2 but cut 6 wizards (if u include the 2 changelings) 🤔