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Show Notes:
In the Wild West, there are only two types of people: the quick and the dead. If you don’t want to be the latter, then you’re going to need a deck that can keep up!
Well don’t worry, today we’re bringing you the upgrade guide for the new Outlaws of Thunder Junction “Quick Draw” (red/blue) precon deck. We’ll lay out the 10 cards (for under $50) that you should have in your holster and 10 you can leave in the dust. So at your next game night, take out your opponents before they know what hit em!
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Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Intro
00:04:37 - “Quick Draw” - Precon Upgrade
00:05:01 - Possible Commanders
00:15:00 - Best Cards
00:17:46 - Notable Reprints
00:21:53 - Reprint Value
00:24:08 - Deck Stats
00:28:37 - Upgrade Goals
00:34:29 - Cards To Add
00:54:16 - Cards To Cut
01:05:31 - How The Deck Plays
01:09:58 - To The Listeners
01:13:39 - Damen And Kingdom Hearts
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@jacobnestle3805 2 месяца назад

Very cool to see Damen talk about his personal connection to the set!

@damenlenz 2 месяца назад

Thank you, I am very appreciative that I was able to do this upgrade and talk about the significance this precon and set as a whole means to me.

@IceClimberr 2 месяца назад

@@damenlenz You did awesome bud, hope to see you on more often

@user-bf9lr9lf9i 2 месяца назад

Ok, going into the Navajo history influence for the cards in this was really cool; would love to see more of that in the future

@damenlenz 2 месяца назад

I am glad you enjoyed it. This was something that meant a lot to me both as a Native American myself, but also as a Marine.

@DrakeF. 2 месяца назад

As a european I just learned so much history in the intro - wow! And it only was intro talk of a paper card game video. Thank you, Damen, for sharing!

@ovatae3349 2 месяца назад

This man's voice is perfect for westerns...

@damenlenz 2 месяца назад

Why thank you partner 🤠

@dannybrez 2 месяца назад

49:12 Twisted Fealty just wins you the game. You do the same process but with Twisted Fealty instead, and every time the aura falls off Stella Lee, each opponent will take one damage... Completely busted in every regard!

@johnnygoodman8262 2 месяца назад

There are quite a few cards like that that can win the game. Dramatic Reversal gives you infinite mana and twiddle effects will do something similar.

@ChristopherSmithGPlus 2 месяца назад

@@johnnygoodman8262 Involuntary Employment gives you *real* infinite mana. ;-) The nice thing with Twisted Fealty is it has it all in one package. No additional spells or actions needed. Like Great Train Heist can also work, but only if your attackers can get by the blockers. Bond of Passion also works. Kari Zev's Expertise will let you cast a ton of 1 & 2 mana spells.

@CHEFPKR 2 месяца назад

I really like how the "after 3" is sort of like "3,2,1 DRAW!"

@damenlenz 2 месяца назад

I missed that, but that is AMAZING

@redenreburiano4 2 месяца назад

It may be asking a lot, but I'd like to see a lot more of Command Zone staff share a lot more with the game. Like their history of getting into it, personal connections, how relatable you are to the game in terms of playstyle, favorite card, lore, flavor text, favorite stories. etc. Can't tell you how many times I re-watched that beginning segment where Damen talked about his background and how excited he got for it. Warms my heart.

@damenlenz 2 месяца назад

@harisghayas3681 2 месяца назад

As a Kingdom Hearts fan, I love hearing Damen talk about his experience and what he's doing with the games!

@lulu1997master 2 месяца назад

This deck is mad powerful; I'd always wondered why creatures that could copy instant/ sorceries by tapping had extra mana costs attached, and Stella is the answer why 😂

@thomaswright8551 2 месяца назад

Really enjoyed this episode. Glad we're back to a single-deck format giving you guys a bit more space to add detail - loved all the extra bits included here!!

@MisterMeaner3000 2 месяца назад

"Anything for Rachel Weeks" has been my battle cry for years. Yeehaw.

@jonathanarlt9578 2 месяца назад

Damen thanks for sharing your story with us

@damenlenz 2 месяца назад

Anytime!

@RedCometNurse 2 месяца назад

Very cool for Damen to talk about his own connection to this deck. The Navajo Code Talkers were very much the United States' version of the Enigma Machine. I really like this deck, though I already have an Izzet Spellslinger deck (in the form of Veyran), so I won't be getting this one, but it is definitely tempting.

@RedCometNurse 2 месяца назад

I really like the picks for upgrades. I would almost rather have seen Fiery Inscription rather than Guttersnipe, since it is more resilient. Delayed Blast Fireball is amazing. I have it in my Narset, Enlightened Exile deck as one of my board wipes. I often do 7 damage to opponents' faces and their creatures all on one turn to clear the way for Narset to smash face. Price of Progress is MEAN. I love it.

@phantomnexusvods2579 2 месяца назад

looks like a great episode, exactly what i need since i plan on getting this precon! thanks!

@damenlenz 2 месяца назад

I am so excited to pick up and build Stella Lee as well. I hope you like my upgrades!

@ninomusician 2 месяца назад

Damen sharing his roots was very touching. It made me want to buy the precon

@damenlenz 2 месяца назад

I hope you enjoy the deck as much as I do!

@friedpinnapple 2 месяца назад

This is the one deck im going to get (for parts) and im fascinated to hear about the upgrades.

@atasin 2 месяца назад

Really enjoyed the opening segment. Great way for the audience to connect with the cast.

@TheChewer 2 месяца назад

Can I just say that I really really enjoyed the first 15 minutes of this episode ❤️ Always nice to see someone being this happy for some recognition. Godspeed to you brother 🙏

@JasonOshinko 2 месяца назад

I hope the commenters who whine about cultural consultants paid close attention to that part.

@damenlenz 2 месяца назад

Being able to talk about all of that meant a lot to me. I am so genuinely touched that people liked that section so much

@tomahawkhankz7826 2 месяца назад

Love the history lesson! Made the cadence of the episode feel more personal and more off-the-cuff kinda podcast.

@justinwilliams6971 2 месяца назад

literally love these vids so much. Thank you so much for helping me understand the deck!

@Hundo_Mo 2 месяца назад

I think this is the deck I am most excited about

@SupremeChalupaSnoke 2 месяца назад

Love the segment on how the deck plays out!

@noahverstynen8091 2 месяца назад

I’ve been wanting a spell slinger precon for so long. I’m glad to finally have one

@dragonfist 2 месяца назад

very happy that you are back to making video per deck

@michaelhurst5403 2 месяца назад

Looks good, thanks for the tips.

@hdenton 2 месяца назад

Twisted Fealty is a 2 card combo with this that goes infinite and instantly wins.

@Dtoszi 2 месяца назад

I’m a bit dumb but how? Gain control of all creatures and infinitely give them +1?

@Dtoszi 2 месяца назад

MoveToCombat omg, I forgot about the role’s effect

@Th3Treasoner 2 месяца назад

Twisted Fealty is one of the reasons I decided I needed to build Stella Lee. I love her, she's so good.

@MixTwentyOne 2 месяца назад

As Beezy from the Nitpicking Nerds often says, “Stella Lee goes infinite with a ham sandwich.”

@ingolf82 2 месяца назад

I can't wait to play this. I love Izzet spellslinger, its my favorite guild. I've already asked my friend to buy it for me when it releases officially next week I think? Edit: the cerulean whisps thing also works with Dramatic reversal, it goes infinite. I was also thinking about things that say ", draw a card", like all the cards used for Zada storm. there is: Accelerate: target creature gains haste, draw a card, argent mutation: target permanent becomes an artifact in addition until end of turn, draw a card. Crimson Whisps: target creature becomes red, draw a card. and so on and so on.

@commandcast 2 месяца назад

Hope you enjoy it!

@jasondelpire9786 2 месяца назад

Thank you, this was so much good information, especially for a noob like me.

@AtlasAdvice254 2 месяца назад

This may legitimately be my favorite precon they’ve ever made

@JC-lm3bb 2 месяца назад

Awesome to hear about the cultural input and Damien’s connection to the set. Just bought the precon and loving it, your video helped a lot with approaching it out the box as a new player.

@JackOropeza 2 месяца назад

I liked the dueling pre-con format of the last set. 🤠❤ Love the videos either way. 🎉

@dbotsis 2 месяца назад

Loved the section on Navajo Code Talkers. Amazing cultural teaching and discussion. Great job Command Zone

@damenlenz 2 месяца назад

I greatly appreciate the support

@Rathammergames 2 месяца назад

Great special show!!!🎉

@HybridPK_ 2 месяца назад

I hadn't intended to pick up a pre-con for this set, but this deck looks stacked in my favor.

@rolandnieves7148 Месяц назад

Loved the history lesson! Thank you!

@justinwest1994 2 месяца назад

Great video on upgrades. I would definitely consider grape shot for the deck. Big value when you storm off!

@lsrubin22 2 месяца назад

"Ah, so they don't like Ward 3, eh? Well wait 'til they get a load of THIS!" --Gavin 🤣

@cmdrvimes72 2 месяца назад

Fblthp, Lost on the Range would also be another in set card that would do well in this. The only risk with plot is that it does show you as a threat, but if you plot some cantrips you might get away with it.

@saltyalters 2 месяца назад

I call for more little history lessons associated with a set if it has ties to real life events. That little segment was cool as hell.

@joshualewis5214 2 месяца назад

I was actually really looking forward to using Arcane Bombardment as a win con builder. Pair it with twinning staff to double the copies it makes, stock lots of counter spells to block removal and also get a cast on opponents turns to build up exiled spells, then toss down volcanic torrent and elemental eruption to get a ton of tokens down while clearing the board.

@nolifeSnorlax 2 месяца назад

I waited for this one! Quick draw seems busted I’m so excited 😊😊😊

@jonknowsnothing4259 Месяц назад

“I think this upgrade will take you to a powerful place” @ 1:05:55 is what I needed to hear in my guided meditation 😂

@originalink644 2 месяца назад

Very good episode

@sinisterrain2079 2 месяца назад

The mercs clothing/aesthetics in the set is a major sale for me. I have not pre-ordered magic in more than 8 years, but the look and feel of this set is it. Debatting this pre con or the Olivia one. Thanks for the content

@draknid603 2 месяца назад

Tezzerat’s gambit is definitely a cut from here but may slide into my merfolk explore deck for the easy card draw and proliferate

@alexandersantos5364 2 месяца назад

“Ropin’; an ridin’; an being a……….outlaaaaaw”. She sounded as excited about this set as I am. Yee haw……..

@RobertMimms 2 месяца назад

This is a great upgrade package for my Baral and Kari Zev deck. Baral and Kari Zev is getting switched out for Stella lee, but is gonna do work in the 99

@DragonSoulreapr 2 месяца назад

I was half expecting them to say we are not using any of the 2 commanders in this deck and instead we are using niv mizzet

@BroncosDaBomb19 2 месяца назад

Cerulean Wisps also makes a treasure every time you copy thanks to Storm Kiln, making as much mana as you’d like for all the cards you draw 🤯

@MrABK108 2 месяца назад

I added Quicken. It's a blue 1cmc cantrip that makes the next sorcery you cast have flash. Talk about catching them unaware.

@mjohn3126 2 месяца назад

That is such an interesting card!

@elfaulkner84 2 месяца назад

I'm loving David geeking out on Kingdom Hearts. Also Rule O Goblin Haberdasher. I wonder what Thousand Year Storm would do it in this deck.

@Rathammergames 2 месяца назад

Really interested in a CDH version of this deck with full explanation 🎉

@damenlenz 2 месяца назад

I have a list that I am in the process of testing. I don't have a primer written quite yet though

@the_wake_ 2 месяца назад

The one thing I can think of with Tezzeret's Gambit is that it's a 4-CMC spell you can cast for 3 mana. That could have some fringe value over regular Divination when trying to fill your graveyard with spells of different mana values for Eris's cost reduction. I haven't looked at the costs of the instants and sorceries to see if the 4 slot is actually less full than the 3 slot that regular-variety Divination would occupy, but that's the one niche I could think of other than the couple of counters you mentioned. That one's a real head scratcher for sure!

@rainx381 2 месяца назад

I love this episode with the cultural nuances.

@henrytorr5810 2 месяца назад

Twisted fealty works really well with Stella

@contactxain 2 месяца назад

one note on arcane bombardment is that as far as i can tell it works on other player's turns so it ends up being a late game use for your cantrips.

@dexplosion1 2 месяца назад

Cerulean Wisps into Lab Man or Thoracle 👍 You don't need hundreds of dollars of interaction either; super strong deck with budget cards.

@endersgamer72 2 месяца назад

I also really like Candlekeep inspiration as a second overrun effect for those tokens.

@endersgamer72 2 месяца назад

Metallurgic Summonings also acts as a second Shark Typhoon.

@RyanTraher 2 месяца назад

As soon as Damen started talking about Kingdom Hearts, I looked at how much time was left in the video and thought, “oh man this poor guy is going to try explaining this series.” Haha

@damenlenz 2 месяца назад

And boy did I

@MoipaZ 2 месяца назад

I gotta say, this is the third or fourth deck upgrade I've seen that could use Ill-Timed Explosion but it wasn't mentioned. I think it would probably work better with Eris, so I get it, but that card is super sweet and I think should get more love.

@damenlenz 2 месяца назад

I have yet to play with Ill-Timed Explosion, I will have to give it a try

@marvinbido4073 2 месяца назад

literally just bought this precon

@dantehensley6799 2 месяца назад

I think epic experiment is pretty good. If you dump all your mana, sometimes youre hitting like anywhere between 6-10 cards, and can cast pretty much all of them, and youre casting them, so it procs your commanders first and second effects, so you can exile the top card or copy one of the cards or maybe even get to your infinite untaps. Its pretty good imo

@OneFoxTwoFox Месяц назад

I know I am a little late to the dance but there is a very interesting movie called Windtalkers that really illustrates how important Native Americans were in the Allies/US success in WWII. @damenlenz surely had seen it and would attest to its portayal. Thank you again Damen for your personal take of the significance and correct portrayal that Wizards is doing for cultures they are using. We have come a long way and truly appreciate the lengths in which they are doing stuff right.

@MetaLibanez1 2 месяца назад

Got some room in the budget to get an underworld breach and a brain freeze lol. I already have an Izzet/stormy type deck but kinda interested in this one tbh. Looks fun.

@ThisIsACommanderChannel 2 месяца назад

Very interesting guest to have.

@damenlenz 2 месяца назад

Thank you, I strive to be interesting!

@ddxitachi1088 Месяц назад

Slickshot show off is definitely a must have in my eyes

@raulrodriguez6171 2 месяца назад

Damen, as long as you play enough interaction to deal with orcish bowmasters I think this could be a fun and consistent deck that approaches cedh power for sure.

@Th3Treasoner 2 месяца назад

I'm not sure if someone mentioned this already but she is very powerful but doesn't play well with Guttersnipe, Electrostatic Field Young Pyromancer, or Storm stuff if you go infinite since copying isn't casting. You can still cast a TON of spells with her, but you can't make an arbitrarily large army of dragons (or Goblins, or Third-Path Iconoclast dudes, etc.). Also your cuts are spot on, they had to know how powerful Stella Lee was and just tossed in ten cards to avoid making her out of the box, absolutely bonkers.

@damenlenz 2 месяца назад

Works amazingly with Archmage Emeritus and Storm-Kiln Artist though, it's bonkers

@Crazy13Morales Месяц назад

Pyretic Charge gets nuts in this deck 🔥

@ttahhhaaha 2 месяца назад

600, Congrats

@felipecounago4716 Месяц назад

I think "Lila, Undefeated Slickshot" would work really well in this deck. Casting an Instant or Sorcery, then immediately plotting it to cast again later seems awesome. Downside is that it has to be a multicolored spell

@LordDrieg 2 месяца назад

Every time I see some chatter about Stella Lee & Quick Draw, I just get happier & happier! I'm beyond excited for this deck and this commander & your video has given me some clearer ideas on ways I should build the deck. ❤

@damenlenz 2 месяца назад

Happy to help!

@camoyuki 2 месяца назад

I feel like this deck needs more instants if you switch out more than 10 cards. The base instant/sorcery count is pretty low for a spellslinger deck, and it is heavy on the sorcery side

@nolifeSnorlax 2 месяца назад

Delayed Blast Fire also seems really nice with Brainstorm which I’d add.

@commandcast 2 месяца назад

It does!

@jayd0lin214 2 месяца назад

This deck is SCREAMING for a Jeska's Will. Ik its way out of budget but if you got the funds i highly recommend it

@Th3Treasoner 2 месяца назад

It is a lot of money, but IMO it's better than Mana Geyser because it bottles more cards, and costs much less. It's also why I like stuff like Rite of Flame, and Pyretic/Desperate Ritual. It's free real estate.

@damenlenz 2 месяца назад

Jeska's Will is fantastic in this deck, it basically guarantees double spelling that turn and often gets you to three on its own.

@jayd0lin214 2 месяца назад

@@damenlenz most definitely! I was hoping it would at least be an honorable mention haha but hey good stuff regardless.

@Aldrnari956 2 месяца назад

Seems like Galazeth Prismari would be good in this deck. Turn any treasures you make into regular mana rocks for instant and sorceries.

@ironpalmmonk1199 2 месяца назад

I much prefer the two in one review videos you guys did for MKM and Fallout. Tighter focus and I like the deck comparison and commentary at the end.

@garyoakes1869 2 месяца назад

I'm a few days behind, but I hope Damen is enjoying the well deserved love he is getting in these comments!

@damenlenz 2 месяца назад

I am, thank you

@gganoobis2789 2 месяца назад

I run Ral Zarek,Ral:Storm Conduit,and Jace:Reawakened, would Tezzeret's gambit be worth to include for a potential surprise chance at 5 extra turns or copying every spell i play that turn with Jace's ult? Genuinely asking lol.

@GriffinAmongOceans 2 месяца назад

Mystical tutoring a delayed fireball would do so good

@dgreenlonghorn1 2 месяца назад

Stella Lee is legit the most power-crept Izzet-Spellslinger commander of all time (up to this point). The ability to potentially draw your entire deck for U with cerulean wisps + any 2 “free” spells (0cmc/evoke/etc) is wildly powerful. Even if played “fairly”, you can still get Stella Lee T3 and then abuse her ability as early as T4. Even if you’re only copying a ponder or expressive iteration, the value will begin to snowball. Those extra draws will feed your hand to play 3 spells the next turn and copy one of them again. Doing this “fair” build can still result in T6 Time Warps + copy of Time Warp. It can also result in T6 Mana Geyser + copy of mana geyser into any good X spell. She is so easily abused and also gives you additional cards to cast from exile. She is cracked.

@bruvaroni 2 месяца назад

Imagine if they had listed Twisted Feality 😂

@tldrq2456 2 месяца назад

glad I bought the Baldur's Gate precon with Delayed Blast Fireball (:

@thumbwrestler12 2 месяца назад

Glad to see a buget version of Jace popping up here! Slap a cowboy hat on Jori En in an alt art and you’ll be ready to spell sling. Little bummed not seeing any cards with disturb, madness , flashback or foretell included in the upgrade guide. Cheap Alt casting card really can go well in the deck

@joedominguez8064 2 месяца назад

I think crashing drawbridge is super underrated, been a favorite of mine since it came out. Being able to grant mass haste in my Elminster Azorius Aerial Aggro deck is so satisfying, especially because people will often forget about it and if they have to use removal on it to keep from dying it still feels pretty worth it 😂

@eriknell7515 2 месяца назад

It's been my pet card since OG eldraine. It goes in almost every deck I can put it in. Love love love crashing drawbridge

@ryanstuck4292 2 месяца назад

I need Damen to start a podcast where he explains the story line of Kingdom Hearts start to finish

@damenlenz 2 месяца назад

BET

@User-dc3zk 2 месяца назад

Can you guys start noting the power levels of the precons and then what you think it is after the upgrade?

@sirKonradical 2 месяца назад

My fellow Apache brother ❤

@damenlenz 2 месяца назад

Hello brother

@elijahwalker323 2 месяца назад

any thoughts to throw a magnus the red in considering all the token creatures?

@damenlenz 2 месяца назад

Magnus is a bit too expensive mana cost wise for my tastes, but you could definitely run him and be happy, I just worry about him sitting in your hand for too long when you'd rather be double spelling.

@MitchT97 Месяц назад

I myself went more cost reduction and added a few of or mid costs to keep everything cheap. Was about to lose a game badly against a guy who was going to be coming at all of us with a massive army next turn for the win. except I managed to create and swing out with 8 elemental dragons that were prowess +3 and no one else had flying. Leir, Disciple of the Drowned ftw.

@gagelewis6577 2 месяца назад

Twisted Fealty from Wilds of Eldraine goes infinite with Stella's copy effect and kills the table

@PhilButcher 2 месяца назад

The conversation about indigenous influence and how fool it is as someone who shares that lineage seeing themselves on a card is so heartwarming. There are so many people in this world who actively fight against diversity and inclusion and it always boggles my mind. If they had their way, we would miss out on so many amazing and beautiful things, so it's good that they aren't.

@jonathanmarques8406 2 месяца назад

45:11 Quick correction when it comes to Stella’s copying ability and how it interacts with Delayed Blast Fireball: When you copy an instant or sorcery that gets an additional effect from being cast from a specific zone (graveyard, exile, etc.), the copy does NOT get that additional effect because the copy itself was not cast from that zone. But even when you do copy it, that’s still 7 damage to all opponents and their creatures, so still a great include! Great upgrade guide!

@elliottroose4194 2 месяца назад

I'm gonna throw up, these decks are all so valuable recently. No complaints, I just keep expecting a drop that hasn't come yet, and that's throwing me off, exciting as it may be

@ChristopherSmithGPlus 2 месяца назад

Just realized that there are a number of extra combat spells that would work perfectly with her tap ability... Fury of the Horde, Relentless Assault, Savage Beating, and Seize the Day all work reasonably well, particularly if you have vigilance. World At War works even better.

@ChristopherSmithGPlus 2 месяца назад

Dream's Grip is the really nasty combo piece with this deck, and it is cheap. You pay it's entwine cost and now you can tap down all your opponents' creatures whilst copying the spell as many times as you want.