As a member of rail staff I must say you absolutely did the right thing, you can never know with these things and it’s better to be safe than sorry! Well done!
@@user-he5nd1bs3q the one officer says that there's a person looking for this bag, sounds like someone reported that they left it on the train, and the officer or whoever had the bag knew that, can hear him mention it at one point.
@@UpcomingChris the guy has no clue this is the bag. It’s a bag, which may or may not be the one looked for. It’s incredibly dumb of them to touch the bag.
"yeah, I left on the train this morning and by pure luck it's still here this evening. I'm feeling so lucky that I just thought you'd want to know how honest all today's passengers have been"
The crew handled that really well indeed. On the two occasions I've witnessed a time when it's pulled, their first reaction was to storm down the train yelling "WHO PULLED IT? WHO THE H*** PULLED IT!". Makes people feel hesitant to use it in situations that may warrant it.
Saw someone once go to pull the emergency alarm because they missed their stop. I was like, mate you can't use it for that, just get off at the next station lol
Not sure about England, but in Scotland, our trains also tell you to report unattended items of luggage to a member of train staff or the BTP. This guy definitely did the right thing, and the train crew handled it so well!
They've started announcing See it Say it Sorted on the tube now as well, so BTP must cover there. Though of course you don't get phone signal unless you're on the Jubilee line, so...
I mean with these types of things you need to remember that the underground in one of the most popular forms of transport in one of the most famous cities in the world
A lot of people commenting saying "that was wrong" it wasn't. Tfl want you to do this, especially after various incidents such as in 2017 and 2018. A DLR operator once said on board to always pull the alarm if there's an unattended bag. Good on you for doing the right thing 👌
@@theaviator_7678 2017, 15 September: Parsons Green bombing (london tube) Then you all the other terriorst attack around the Uk in them 2 years like the Manchest bomb etc etc. also got to remember 7/7 for TFL wanting you to report stuff
I know some comments say otherwise but things like unattended bags need to be checked ASAP. If using the alarm is the fastest way to do that so be it. The times we live in aren’t very nice so people should keep their eyes open all the time and get anything checked. In this case, as the station staff say the item was reported lost property which someone wanted to get back, letting the staff know quickly got that sorted too so more than one situation solved. Can’t fault you using the alarm at all.
I was getting on the Central Line and noticed a bag by itself in the empty carriage, had a check and it was someones lunch and charger in there. Mentioned it to a friend of mine who worked on the railways, and she gave me an absolute bollocking for checking and not pulling the alarm and reporting it.
I mean you done the right choice but I'm not sure if you had to look because maybe the bag's or whatever owner didn't want you to see their private stuff or something
Sir, you've done the right thing, I haven't personally used the passenger alarm - but once on a train saw an unattended bag which the conductor didn't see. Told them, it was inspected - luckily harmless just someone's university books and a laptop and the conductor secured it in their area of the train
@@MrJeralanscot why do you think the trains always say “if you see any unattended or suspicious items/people report it immediately”, terrorists attacks happen
@@originalpadoru yes of course they have to play the game,but when it normally happens their inside jobs,mi5 know about all attacks and normally plan it all,they always get something out of it like a war to invade a country and steal the recourses etc, America always does this,it's old news
@@originalpadoru yes but you need the ingredients and most of it is all flagged up that if you start buying it they track you down and keep an eye,the stuff you need to make one is kept a eye on etc
See it, say it, sorted. As a railway worker you did the right thing. If only others did the same. And also kudos to the Driver to for thanking you and taking it further.
Absolutely brilliant piece of initiative. The time someone doesn’t follow this procedure will be the time it’s a genuine emergency. We are always told to report anything suspicious to staff or BTP and you did exactly that. You have my respect and appreciation
A close relative of mine was killed in 2004 in the Madrid train bombings, and it was done through an unattended bag with dynamite inside it. These things happen, sometimes when you least expect it, and they wreck entire lives. You did the right thing by taking it seriously
Had this been another possible 7/7 situation, this man would be a hero and prevent such a thing, this is exactly what to do in this situation of finding an unattended item and I feel safe when I know there are people brave enough to whistleblow when there’s something suspicious. Bystander behaviour can be dangerous! If this was a real situation and he did nothing, he and everyone else in that train would be in danger. Thank you! This is useful for me as well to keep note on what to do if I need to use the alarm.
Definitely the right thing to do here. Any unattended bag, anywhere, should be treated as a "suspicious item." Last time I saw an unattended bag on a train in my city, I didn't touch it, then sent a text to Transit Police describing the bag, when I saw it, which carriage I saw it in and where, and which way it's headed. Our trains are fully automated so there isn't always someone at the ready but additionally you can also speak to someone in the control room via two-way intercom or press the silent alarm and have the closest attendant meet the train at an upcoming station. But yeah, number one rule about finding an unattended bag in public: _Don't touch it!_ You don't know what could be in it.
Considering how advanced those disguised bombs can be, while I was a LEO, we were taught about bags that had pressure/proximity sensors installed to them in case someone would wanna tamper with the mechanism to defuse it
I would much rather have an alarm pulled on my train 10 times a week for a false alarm regarding unattended bags than no one alerting me or the driver and the unthinkable happen. 101% right call. No good rail worker will tell you off for being our extra eyes and ears!
@@Nooticus Procedures all rail staff are trained in is used prior to making delay costing decisions. Plus, having 2 members of staff, being the driver and myself onboard, means I can usually have the alarm reset before we even get to the next stop and investigate and go from there
Unaccompanied Bag, absolutely the Right Decision. I’d just have moved further away and possibly Stood Behind Something Solid. Thank you for Caring enough.
Just to add: it's also worth remembering that if you spot something suss between stops, advice is to wait for the next doors-open before pulling the lever. That's the official advice and the trains obvs: so you and everyone else can get out safely and fast. Even if it really was a bomb: you are in more trouble if you stop the train than if you try for the next station. Same advice with fellow passenger taken ill: they will get help faster at a station. Only time to pull handle between stops is if there is an immediate danger to life that is made worse by the train moving. Example passenger has hand stock in closing doors but train moves off anyway dragging them along platform. (Not a brilliant example because the system should spot trapped limbs)
Passenger Emergency Alarms on automatic trains will not stop the train. Will only stop train on picc& Bakerloo. Pulling the alarm and telling the driver lets the driver call for assistance in advance so when the train arrives the staff will be there faster
Don't understand why people dislike that this happened, I don't approve of the worker just taking the bag because better safe than sorry but are people really gonna ignore what happened in 2006 or as recently as 2018. Props to you and TfL
You definitely made the right decision here, well done! Most likely in these situations it’s just a case of people forgetting their belongings but you never know. It’s best to assume the worst and report it as suspicious baggage just in case there just in case there was something like a bomb in it.
Tbh even though there is a bag on the train it must be checked VERY carefully. Some people just take no notice. And you never know what’s inside… But you did a good job and thank you for doing the right thing!
thanks for pulling the alarm to call police. even if nothing dangerous was in the backpack, the police often will call the owner of lost items and let them pick it up at the police station. I had a similar event happen when I misplaced a locked briefcase with $10,000+ of my store's inventory of trading cards & was glad to be contacted by police to pick it up at their lost item room.
for Americans curious why British and more specifically Londoners are extra cautious about abandoned bags is because of terrorist attacks that happened in the early 2000s a few buses and a train were targeted by a terrorist organisation and they left bags with explosives behind that of course detonated and caused injuries and death, If 9/11 involved the subway system in New York I'm sure you'd act the same way
It's good of seeing the person doing the right thing. Normally this doesn't happen to me but if there was a suspicious item in the train I would be in. I will report it.
In 99,9999% of the cases there is nothing wrong with the bag and was it just a forgotten item. But you'd better be safe than sorry, there is always a chance it was left on purpose and might do a lot of harm to people in the carriage. So very well done, please do it again when you find a bag, package, etc..
Delaying let's say two hundred people by two minutes, let's say, times 99.9999% vs. bomb kills let's say three people with another 40 years left times 0.0001% chance converts to cost to society of 6 hours vs 4.4 days. Point being, probably add about another 9 to that even doing just a pure inhumane mathematical calculation. Add another 9 in case you're assuming a 7/7 death toll (and probably another 9 accounting for injuries). Add another 9 since this train was basically empty. So yeah, could make an argument for 99.99999999% of cases should you report this if you have no information to the contrary, and given it was there when he got in there was no other information.
Once as a young child I was on the way to my primary school and left my backpack there by accident, there was nothing really important in there (except a book I enjoyed) but I eventually got a replacement and I hope I didn't cause as much of a fuss as this😅
@@Mongchong_123 Yeah Waited for the train to comeback to get my bag I knew exactly where i had left it on the train so when the train come back I was like some one nick my bag thank very bloody much you muppet.
For those of you saying it wasn’t a big enough deal to pull the alarm, this is where you’re wrong. Because anyone could’ve left anything in the bag, it could’ve been a bomb or something. You just never know, and it’s better to be safe than sorry.
Where I'm from, every bus and train has signs that say "Vigilance saves lives". This was the right thing to do, I'm more surprised that the train staff took the bag them selves instead of calling the police to handle it.
I work at an airport we are trained too keep an eye out for unattended luggage and what to do if we come across any that training sticks with me everywhere I go now in the current climate you can't be too careful
In New York City Subway, we have a emergency brake and a emergency intercom if someone left somethin’ behind, the T/O or Conductor come to pick it up and they prolly take it to the SLAF (subway lost and found)
If you're lucky that's all that happens but mostly likely the storm troopers show up and one or more people get shot dead cuz 'MURICA!!!!!, 9/11!!!!!!, GUNS!!!!!, NAZIs!!!!!, etc.
you know he did the right thing when someone left a bag unattended on the Jubilee Line at Dollis Hill Station and the driver comes over and also the staff at Dollis hill station to pick up the unattended bag so well done you did the right thing 👍👍👍🙂🙂🙂
People forgetting their bags must happen at some frequency so they seem to have become a little complacent about it. A little troubling considering the worst case could have been a pressure/motion activated IED etc. I thought they would have cleared the train and platform and called the police.
@@HellHunter00 I suspect that doesn't happen because despite the sound logic, it would paralyse the network. 1 passenger alarm shuts down most of the line until it's resolved because one train can't pass another. A level of risk is accepted for the sake of that practicality, and I guess it seems to be OK so far (I haven't ever heard of a suspicious bag being reported and then poohpoohed, only to turn out to be an IED (and if they were shutting down the whole line for ages for every suspicious bag, attackers wouldn't need to bother with explosives at all to paralyse the city).
I don't know why that staff would just remove the bag without bringing in BTP officers to assess the threat first, even an innocent looking item could be a bomb.
They knew that a passenger had accidentally left their bag on a train and was looking for it, and the bag matched the description given, so they were satisfied that it was not a threat. If they weren't already aware of the lost bag, they might have treated it differently.
@@Andronk they are trained to identy the basics at least so if the staff are suspicious then they would start the process of of evacuating the train and the platform or the whole station while they wait for police however if they the staff are not suspicious about the bag they they will likley contact btp to double check but they will likely move the bag to a staff area so they can get the train moving again they are trained to makes the service as safe as possible while causing as little disruption as possible
I've only ever pulled the emergency alarm once; one of the interconnecting doors between the carriages wasn't shut properly and was flapping open. I tried to close the door myself, but it didn't want to latch shut. Someone could easily have fallen out!
@@Mongchong_123 exactly… this isn’t Heathrow airport where security is tight… we must never forget tube stations can be easy targets… ie Tokyo subway attack to amongst others…
When I was 3 apparently I pulled the alarm and my mum had to speak to the driver and say that her toddler son had pulled the alarm in front of angry commuters
